Re: Re: What's Going On?

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yup rice freeds yeast, corn, potatoes any carbs will break down into glucose in the gut

From: Soraya s

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:39 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

It seems like common knowledge but I didn't know--rice milk feeds yeast? We just switched to rice milk from homemade coconut milk b/c of huge Igg issues with coconut for my son. But I don't have the yeast under control and I don't want to make it worse

yeah sounds like an infraction and you are rounding the end of it

you can always rotate, my daughter had only 5 foods she tollerated for a while and we had to do it

From: Seraphine

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:04 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

Thanks so much for your input!

His classroom aide had a sub on Thursday and Friday. I wonder if he took someone else's snack, and the sub didn't think it was a big deal.

I don't rotate, since he is so limited with he eats - it would be impossible, I think! The only new supplement we began was Trienza, replacing Zyme Prime and AFP Peptizide.

I'm wondering if this all started with an infraction, and I made it worse by increasing his enhansa and switching to almond milk.

He's doing better today (so far). Not self-injurious at all, but still trying to pinch and bite others (and me!) a lot.

it can be anything! do you rotate? that may help you find the problem but you are right in my house that would mean an opiate got in, gluten, soy or milk.....did you start any new suppliments?

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:25 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: What's Going On?

I thought the same - 'infraction' -- however, that being said, it sound like an allergy. This is exactly how my son was before we removed milk. New allergy? Corn makes Rob itch like crazy. It made him nuts. Scratching relentlessly..my daughter too. She got rashes (bad ones, I mean, REALLY BAD ones.) That being said, as a sort of - test - to see if the antidote to 'corn' allergy really is: EFA's, Magnesium and Potassium, Histidine, black walnut, kelp and bee pollen. I added Bee Pollen and more EFA's to Maddie's diet, this took care of the bad rashes. (This is according to my book, The ultimate healing system by LePore, ND.)According to this book - the rice allergy antidote is: Pyrdoxine (B6), B12, Manganese, Arginine, Proline, Yucca and Beet Powder.Is there something he likes to eat a lot of (or eats a lot of?)You might want to add more B-Vitamins anyway (because they are anti-stress, and it sounds like he is completely stressed) -- and I would also add L-Theanine. It works really well for me (when I am stressed out.) They also make it in a gum...thought I would throw that out there... some suggestions. Oh, and if it's ammonia, I believe Chlorophyll can render it neutral, and L-Arginine (and ornithine) assist the body in neutralizing it as well. and now that I am thinking about it...it sound like, he's got PST deficiency. ...let me go look, and I will post it..laura >> I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?> > Thanks.> > >

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, one more thing about Syntol--it looks like it contains probiotics, prebiotics and digestive enzymes. Is that true? And should I expect die-off from Syntol?Thanks!

 

Yes, I believe it's trademarked - so Syntol is the name of the product (there isn't a generic type)...

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> > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has

> been

> > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in

> > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He

> > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much

> > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> distress,

> > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet

> > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> protocol,

> > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for

> > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change.

> > Maybe it's corn... ?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

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Great - I have some GSE, but have never used it. Now I might! :-)He is on Trienza, which has No-Phenol in it. We already do epsom salt baths a few times/week. Maybe I'll increase the frequency, though.

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for bacteria, we used GSE (grapefruit seed extract)...great stuff.

Also - I can't remember if you told me or not, but are you adding - no-phenol and epsom salt baths to help detox the phenols while taking enhansa?

laura

laura

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> > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

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> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

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> > > Thanks.

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Great - I have some GSE, but have never used it. Now I might! :-)He is on Trienza, which has No-Phenol in it. We already do epsom salt baths a few times/week. Maybe I'll increase the frequency, though.

,

for bacteria, we used GSE (grapefruit seed extract)...great stuff.

Also - I can't remember if you told me or not, but are you adding - no-phenol and epsom salt baths to help detox the phenols while taking enhansa?

laura

laura

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> > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Great - I have some GSE, but have never used it. Now I might! :-)He is on Trienza, which has No-Phenol in it. We already do epsom salt baths a few times/week. Maybe I'll increase the frequency, though.

,

for bacteria, we used GSE (grapefruit seed extract)...great stuff.

Also - I can't remember if you told me or not, but are you adding - no-phenol and epsom salt baths to help detox the phenols while taking enhansa?

laura

laura

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> > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

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No - this is all so good for me to see! Doesn't feel repetitive to me at all. :-)Actually, is already on zinc, co-q10 and L-carnitine. I'll have to check the form of zinc - I think it's zinc citrate.We've been working on his eating issues since he was in Early Intervention, and have never seen any "wows" - just a few steady improvements. He's a really tough nut to crack. ;-)

I was also told that GSE is great for parasites. She had said that if you eats lots of organic vegetables (we do) than we should do GSE. (So I am!)

When my son has an infraction or shows issues, we use 2 cups of epsom salts until the issues are gone, and then we cut back to 3/4-1 cup every other night.

and I feel like I am repeating myself, and if I am, I'm sorry. But for eating issues, try zinc monomethione along with the CoQ10 and L-Carnitine. The CoQ10 w/L-Carnitine will increase the appetite, and the zinc will help him not hate veggies. It took my son 3 weeks of supplementing (with zinc) before we got to see a WOW!

laura:)

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> > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

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No - this is all so good for me to see! Doesn't feel repetitive to me at all. :-)Actually, is already on zinc, co-q10 and L-carnitine. I'll have to check the form of zinc - I think it's zinc citrate.We've been working on his eating issues since he was in Early Intervention, and have never seen any "wows" - just a few steady improvements. He's a really tough nut to crack. ;-)

I was also told that GSE is great for parasites. She had said that if you eats lots of organic vegetables (we do) than we should do GSE. (So I am!)

When my son has an infraction or shows issues, we use 2 cups of epsom salts until the issues are gone, and then we cut back to 3/4-1 cup every other night.

and I feel like I am repeating myself, and if I am, I'm sorry. But for eating issues, try zinc monomethione along with the CoQ10 and L-Carnitine. The CoQ10 w/L-Carnitine will increase the appetite, and the zinc will help him not hate veggies. It took my son 3 weeks of supplementing (with zinc) before we got to see a WOW!

laura:)

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> > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

No - this is all so good for me to see! Doesn't feel repetitive to me at all. :-)Actually, is already on zinc, co-q10 and L-carnitine. I'll have to check the form of zinc - I think it's zinc citrate.We've been working on his eating issues since he was in Early Intervention, and have never seen any "wows" - just a few steady improvements. He's a really tough nut to crack. ;-)

I was also told that GSE is great for parasites. She had said that if you eats lots of organic vegetables (we do) than we should do GSE. (So I am!)

When my son has an infraction or shows issues, we use 2 cups of epsom salts until the issues are gone, and then we cut back to 3/4-1 cup every other night.

and I feel like I am repeating myself, and if I am, I'm sorry. But for eating issues, try zinc monomethione along with the CoQ10 and L-Carnitine. The CoQ10 w/L-Carnitine will increase the appetite, and the zinc will help him not hate veggies. It took my son 3 weeks of supplementing (with zinc) before we got to see a WOW!

laura:)

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> > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has been having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself in the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc... He also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal distress, but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast protocol, but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change. Maybe it's corn... ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

,I noticed you said that after 30 days your daughter had clear speech.  Is yeast known to mess with speech?

 

Yes, it has all those things...and we never got die off. Neither did my friends kids (so far!)... but I always had charcoal on hand, just in case, and never had to use it.

She had tried (my friend in MA) probiotics, and other naturals that her ND prescribed for her. Her kids were doing the 'yeast' die off routine that we all here go " yeah, that's die off alright. " -- And then started the anxiety. Then it was nightmare, terrors, rashes, etc. It's been going on for 2 weeks (and she's ready to quit the whole thing!) -- so I suggested the Syntol/Candex. She said within 3 days her kids were happy, no more irritability, a lot less separation anxiety (which she said seems to be lifting -- she said it was 70% better) -- which I explained give it atleast 7 days to see good things. I also told her that I did my regiment for 30 days (minimum)

She also said that the stools are really foul, but her kids seem interested more in drinking, and haven't really begged for cookies (which apparently is a daily thing).

I also told her during this time try to get them to DRINK. As the detox process can be hard, but it goes faster if you are drinking.

On day 30, my daughter was a dream come true. Clear speech, happy, good sleeping.

laura:)

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> > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old has

> > been

> > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking himself

> in

> > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing, etc...

> He

> > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten much

> > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> > distress,

> > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet

> > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> > protocol,

> > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for

> > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no change.

> > > Maybe it's corn... ?

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help him?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.

Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.

And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)

But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up.

I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...

I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly.

ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...

that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'

I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old

> > has

> > > > been

> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking

> > himself

> > > in

> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,

> > etc...

> > > He

> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten

> > much

> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> > > > distress,

> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet

> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> > > > protocol,

> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for

> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no

> > change.

> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help

> > him?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)

But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.

Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.

And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up.

I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her

speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...

I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly.

ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...

that being said, I haven't seen a rash,

she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old

> > has> > > > been> >

> > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,

> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no

> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's

corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)

But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.

Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.

And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up.

I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her

speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...

I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly.

ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...

that being said, I haven't seen a rash,

she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old

> > has> > > > been> >

> > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,

> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no

> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's

corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)

But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.

Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.

And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up.

I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her

speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...

I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly.

ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...

that being said, I haven't seen a rash,

she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old

> > has> > > > been> >

> > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,

> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal

> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast

> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no

> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's

corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the "kids flip out on calcium" front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will "deter" the oxylates from settling into cells?? It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them?? Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's "sucking up the oxalates", it could be a reaction. Does that make sense?

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet> > > > > infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the "kids flip out on calcium" front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will "deter" the oxylates from settling into cells?? It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them?? Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's "sucking up the oxalates", it could be a reaction. Does that make sense?

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet> > > > > infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the "kids flip out on calcium" front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will "deter" the oxylates from settling into cells?? It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them?? Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's "sucking up the oxalates", it could be a reaction. Does that make sense?

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream "diet> > > > > infraction!!!", but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Who knows, maybe that is what conditions Dr. Woeller was meaning... he just said " under certain conditions " LOL but did relate it to inflammation... which we know my son has from those darned seizures he gets!

 

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

 

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Who knows, maybe that is what conditions Dr. Woeller was meaning... he just said " under certain conditions " LOL but did relate it to inflammation... which we know my son has from those darned seizures he gets!

 

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

 

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

According to Dr. Yasko, Calcium stimulates excitotoxin activity. So, low to normal range is ok especially if you have high glutamate. If natural sources of calcium like nettle,chammomile etc. do not bring the levels to normal range, she suggests to use a calcium supplement that also contains magnesium which prevents excitotoxin activity, and Vit D and K which ensure calcium transport within the body. These are all from the book. Hope it helps..

 

Who knows, maybe that is what conditions Dr. Woeller was meaning... he just said " under certain conditions " LOL but did relate it to inflammation... which we know my son has from those darned seizures he gets!

 

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

 

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

According to Dr. Yasko, Calcium stimulates excitotoxin activity. So, low to normal range is ok especially if you have high glutamate. If natural sources of calcium like nettle,chammomile etc. do not bring the levels to normal range, she suggests to use a calcium supplement that also contains magnesium which prevents excitotoxin activity, and Vit D and K which ensure calcium transport within the body. These are all from the book. Hope it helps..

 

Who knows, maybe that is what conditions Dr. Woeller was meaning... he just said " under certain conditions " LOL but did relate it to inflammation... which we know my son has from those darned seizures he gets!

 

know that cal can also contontribute to biofilms, so watch if you see negitive reactions or gut bacteria and yeast get worse or PANDAS get worse

 

From: Toni Marie Lombardo

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:00 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On?

 

PS Dr. Woeller said that if you try calcium with your child, and they have a BAD time with it, it is ok to give them ibuprofen to see if that helps. In other words to see if it is an inflammatory response. He warns of course against giving ibuprofen long term in massive doses because that would destroy the kidneys!!! but says that if you have tried calcium with your child, and there is a bad response, and then you want to try it again to see if the child can handle it... and there is another bad response.... give the ibuprofen to see what happens. If your child's issues clear up after taking the ibu., then you have kinda figured out you have a child with some inflammatory issues...

Oh I have new info on the " kids flip out on calcium " front.I had a phone consult with Dr. Woeller last week. He says that in some kids, if the setting is right, the calcium can cause an inflammatory response. NOT GOOD FOR OUR KIDS! :-( He did not go into details, I sense it was a lot of biochemical reaction stuff that he didn't want to explain in our short 15 min consult. It would be worth looking up for those who want to read up on it. (I fear it would make me more freakish, and right now my son is doing well on his calcium supp FINALLY)But in relation to oxalate, before meals, one should take calcium or magnesium (citrate seems to be the best form but some people cannot tolerate this form) to be there to bind with the oxalate.Perhaps the reason my son can finally handle calcium is he has dumped enough oxalate, I have no idea. But he now takes 2000 mg in the am right before his Respen-A and sometimes even more thru the day for meals.

 

Toni, so magnesium, calcium and zinc are good for oxylate issues as it will " deter " the oxylates from settling into cells??   It might be interesting to consider whether or not these kids could use larger doses of these minerals so there's plenty to go 'round for the oxalate issues plus all the functions that also require them??   Which also makes me wonder if that's why some kids flip out on calcium? ... if it's " sucking up the oxalates " , it could be a reaction.   Does that make sense?

 

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 9:41:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What's Going On? 

and I communicate off list. So will have to email me and beat me up for tooting my Low Oxalate horn again. :-DBUT part of the reason the kids need extra nutrition (ie minerals) is these minerals are bound to oxalate and carried away.Since oxalate is so content to either be absorbed into our cells OR be bound bound to magnesium, calcium, and zinc, our leaky gut kids will continue to require supplements for these minerals until the leaky gut is healed or the diet is adjusted.And don't think I am perfect here because 1-I ate some damned wheat yesterday wreaking havoc on my gut and 2-I do not supplement my own zinc and good grief, I should be!!! Ay yi yi! AND 3-I stay up till all hours just like my ASD child would without melatonin, and I refuse to take it myself. Gaaah. :-)

 

For her, it did. OR by clearing up her yeast issues, she was able to get better nutrients -- I think sometimes it's a question of the chicken and the egg. (I am not sure which came first...)But once she was on the Syntol/Candex -- it was the difference of night and day -- for speech. At the time, I knew she knew her alphabet (18 months) and she could point correctly and say the letters (numbers and colors) when asked. (We thought she was a genius!) So when she started to have issues around 2 and her speech declined rapidly, and she started signing again, we knew something was up. I had tried the protocol (that I used on my son) and she was SO miserable, and she didn't like the taste and getting her to take it was hell. Her rashes were out of control (behind her knees, in her armpits, in the creases of her wrist, and in the creases of her neck even) -- and this protocol (which is really easy and easy to take/hide) reeled her in. Her speech came back, and although I was still tacking other things, it became very clear that she was nutritionally deficient in a lot of areas. (WHY!!!) That took some time to figure out, but Jimmy's bioavailable vitamin worked wonders again...I cannot FIGURE OUT why my kids seem to need SO much nutrition or why they seem to burn it up so quickly...I mean, I don't feed my kids crap and they eat really well...they take vitamins, etc. And yet, if I divert from the diet/vitamins/etc. They become train wrecks quickly. ugh...I keep reading trying to find that elusive 'thing' that is going to make me understand all of us, and yet, the more I read, the more questions I have. The more I read, the same things seem to pop up over and over again...and it seems so simple, yet so difficult to attain. ..and I'm not afraid to take things out, put things in, try new stuff, etc. -- and it's a LOT of work...that being said, I haven't seen a rash, she has been wonderful and in a good mood for a period of time now, I am getting used to it...and then I think -- 'when's the other shoe going to drop?'I know I am preaching to the choir, but GEEZ -- can I get a break here?

> > > > > >> > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5 year-old> > has> > > > been> > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking> > himself> > > in> > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > etc...> > > He> > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's gotten> > much> > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > distress,> > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet> > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his yeast> > > > protocol,> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance for> > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no> > change.> > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to help> > him?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Are you a patient of Dr. Goldberg? Because lots of other doctors believe in calcium supplementation. :-)

 

So there's no need for calcium supplements? but what if we noticed teeth grinding when sleeping, there are mentions that it means a calcium deficient?

Thank you and rgrds,

Fanny

Dari: and Marcia Hinds Kepada: jujugirl1971@...; mb12 valtrex

Terkirim: Kam, 13 Januari, 2011 22:56:35Judul: Re: What's Going On? 

When I asked about calcium with my son years ago, Dr Goldberg said not to worry about taking it, especially with boys.  My son is now 22 recovered and never had a problem as a result of not having dairy.

Best,

Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Are you a patient of Dr. Goldberg? Because lots of other doctors believe in calcium supplementation. :-)

 

So there's no need for calcium supplements? but what if we noticed teeth grinding when sleeping, there are mentions that it means a calcium deficient?

Thank you and rgrds,

Fanny

Dari: and Marcia Hinds Kepada: jujugirl1971@...; mb12 valtrex

Terkirim: Kam, 13 Januari, 2011 22:56:35Judul: Re: What's Going On? 

When I asked about calcium with my son years ago, Dr Goldberg said not to worry about taking it, especially with boys.  My son is now 22 recovered and never had a problem as a result of not having dairy.

Best,

Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Are you a patient of Dr. Goldberg? Because lots of other doctors believe in calcium supplementation. :-)

 

So there's no need for calcium supplements? but what if we noticed teeth grinding when sleeping, there are mentions that it means a calcium deficient?

Thank you and rgrds,

Fanny

Dari: and Marcia Hinds Kepada: jujugirl1971@...; mb12 valtrex

Terkirim: Kam, 13 Januari, 2011 22:56:35Judul: Re: What's Going On? 

When I asked about calcium with my son years ago, Dr Goldberg said not to worry about taking it, especially with boys.  My son is now 22 recovered and never had a problem as a result of not having dairy.

Best,

Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

My DAN in Turkey does not believe in calcium supplement since it has a potential of making things worse. I also try to follow Yaskoo protocol and it says the same. My son's levels are ALWAYS normal to high without calcium supps. Vegetables have a lot of calcium and my son loooveeesss veggies. Nettle, chammomile  are good sources also. If levels are not tooo low in the tests, I would not give it as a supplement. If I do though, I would give supps that can help the calcium transport.

 

Are you a patient of Dr. Goldberg? Because lots of other doctors believe in calcium supplementation. :-)

 

So there's no need for calcium supplements? but what if we noticed teeth grinding when sleeping, there are mentions that it means a calcium deficient?

Thank you and rgrds,

Fanny

Dari: and Marcia Hinds Kepada: jujugirl1971@...; mb12 valtrex

Terkirim: Kam, 13 Januari, 2011 22:56:35Judul: Re: What's Going On? 

When I asked about calcium with my son years ago, Dr Goldberg said not to worry about taking it, especially with boys.  My son is now 22 recovered and never had a problem as a result of not having dairy.

Best,

Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

My DAN in Turkey does not believe in calcium supplement since it has a potential of making things worse. I also try to follow Yaskoo protocol and it says the same. My son's levels are ALWAYS normal to high without calcium supps. Vegetables have a lot of calcium and my son loooveeesss veggies. Nettle, chammomile  are good sources also. If levels are not tooo low in the tests, I would not give it as a supplement. If I do though, I would give supps that can help the calcium transport.

 

Are you a patient of Dr. Goldberg? Because lots of other doctors believe in calcium supplementation. :-)

 

So there's no need for calcium supplements? but what if we noticed teeth grinding when sleeping, there are mentions that it means a calcium deficient?

Thank you and rgrds,

Fanny

Dari: and Marcia Hinds Kepada: jujugirl1971@...; mb12 valtrex

Terkirim: Kam, 13 Januari, 2011 22:56:35Judul: Re: What's Going On? 

When I asked about calcium with my son years ago, Dr Goldberg said not to worry about taking it, especially with boys.  My son is now 22 recovered and never had a problem as a result of not having dairy.

Best,

Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.