Re: Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE (baking the cake & eating it, too)

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Your job must be something else. I am thankful that for this time I am able to stay home with my grandbaby. But I have always worked and I have had more than one person that I have had to deal with like you describe. It's funny - why DOES it take us so many bites of food to figure things out like that?

Subject: Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE (baking the cake & eating it, too)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 9:27 AM

Hi,thank you for saying that. It is a good reminder for me that I AM making progress even though I have just come off the 2 day "cake" eating incident. It wasn't so much about eating the "cake" it was about what I learned about myself in spite of eating the "cake". Initially I thought "oh, it's about missing my mom, STILL" but then I did the Geneen inquiry because something told me that there was more behind it than that & amazingly, what came up was that I have to be in contact with someone that I know does not like me & clearly makes it very obvious & there is nothing that I can do, I have to be at these brief "meetings" & I have to read the emails & respond. The day before the cake incident was one of these times when there was a brief meeting & I am very sensitive to people's emotions & expressions. Well the look on this person's face was telling me that she would rather step in dog poo than have to see me &

talk to me for one brief minute. I thought maybe I was imagining that so I asked someone else who was there & no, it had been pretty obvious to everyone. SOOOOOOOOO, my question is, how come it took me 1/2 a bundt cake & 2 days until I finally inquired about what was going on? NOw that I am aware I hope that I will be able to deal with this in a more effective way in the future than numbing myself with sugar & flour. I keep reminding myself, "it's a process & it takes time, keep working on it & it will happen food will eventually become just food."Here's to a day full of learning & practice (but not too much, I hope) LOL.Cheers!!!!mj> > > >> > > > > > > > What was going on for you when you were reaching into your desk for those > > > > hidden candy bars? What were you feeling - bored, anxious,.....? How did >

> > > you feel when you covered over the empty wrappers with paper? Why did you > > > > feel this way? > > > > > > > > ~~~> > > > I have actually given a lot of thought into your questions (above). I > > > > know the experts believe we are eating out of some feelings, like boredom, > > > > sadness etc. What was I really feeling? Honestly, I was at work doing my job > > > > that I love, when I was suddenly hit with an urge to eat the candy. I > > > > told myself I didn't really want that...I had promised myself not to do that, > > > > my face is already a mess from previous encounters with the candy and yet > > > > those overwhelming thoughts of the candy continued. Even as I was reaching > > > > into the drawer for them, I kept telling myself not to do it. Even as I

> > > > was pulling off the wrappers and chewing the candy. I wasn't bored, > > > > stressed, hurt, sad, lonely none of it. I was an addict going for my drug and > > > > ruining my life yet another inch. How did I feel when I covered it with paper? > > > > I was ashamed of my weakness, yet again, Why did I feel this > > > > way...because I am a fat person with a garbage can full of candy wrappers. A garbage > > > > can that is emptied every day so obviously it happened in one day. I felt > > > > like the housekeeper must think there wasn't any wonder why I am so fat. It > > > > all becomes self loathing in some respect that I can't seem to conquer this > > > > addiction. I can finally admit that it is an addiction though. I had > > > > given up all white flour and sugars for about 21 days before

Halloween. Since > > > > then though, it's been a real struggle with some days so bad and others > > > > just enough off to insure a continuing of the issue.> > > > > > > > I've considered addiction therapy but honestly since it's not drug or > > > > alcohol, it's not considered much. My last doctor kept tell me to try harder! > > > > I couldn't believe the ignorance of that advice. I actually eat very > > > > healthy foods when I'm not overtaken by the sugar. I have been fighting this for > > > > 30 years since I was 25. I've never won for more than a few months.> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Best!> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > In

Beaverton, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/14/2010 9:45:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > > imhere4u1232000@ writes:> > > >> > >> >>

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Your job must be something else. I am thankful that for this time I am able to stay home with my grandbaby. But I have always worked and I have had more than one person that I have had to deal with like you describe. It's funny - why DOES it take us so many bites of food to figure things out like that?

Subject: Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE (baking the cake & eating it, too)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 9:27 AM

Hi,thank you for saying that. It is a good reminder for me that I AM making progress even though I have just come off the 2 day "cake" eating incident. It wasn't so much about eating the "cake" it was about what I learned about myself in spite of eating the "cake". Initially I thought "oh, it's about missing my mom, STILL" but then I did the Geneen inquiry because something told me that there was more behind it than that & amazingly, what came up was that I have to be in contact with someone that I know does not like me & clearly makes it very obvious & there is nothing that I can do, I have to be at these brief "meetings" & I have to read the emails & respond. The day before the cake incident was one of these times when there was a brief meeting & I am very sensitive to people's emotions & expressions. Well the look on this person's face was telling me that she would rather step in dog poo than have to see me &

talk to me for one brief minute. I thought maybe I was imagining that so I asked someone else who was there & no, it had been pretty obvious to everyone. SOOOOOOOOO, my question is, how come it took me 1/2 a bundt cake & 2 days until I finally inquired about what was going on? NOw that I am aware I hope that I will be able to deal with this in a more effective way in the future than numbing myself with sugar & flour. I keep reminding myself, "it's a process & it takes time, keep working on it & it will happen food will eventually become just food."Here's to a day full of learning & practice (but not too much, I hope) LOL.Cheers!!!!mj> > > >> > > > > > > > What was going on for you when you were reaching into your desk for those > > > > hidden candy bars? What were you feeling - bored, anxious,.....? How did >

> > > you feel when you covered over the empty wrappers with paper? Why did you > > > > feel this way? > > > > > > > > ~~~> > > > I have actually given a lot of thought into your questions (above). I > > > > know the experts believe we are eating out of some feelings, like boredom, > > > > sadness etc. What was I really feeling? Honestly, I was at work doing my job > > > > that I love, when I was suddenly hit with an urge to eat the candy. I > > > > told myself I didn't really want that...I had promised myself not to do that, > > > > my face is already a mess from previous encounters with the candy and yet > > > > those overwhelming thoughts of the candy continued. Even as I was reaching > > > > into the drawer for them, I kept telling myself not to do it. Even as I

> > > > was pulling off the wrappers and chewing the candy. I wasn't bored, > > > > stressed, hurt, sad, lonely none of it. I was an addict going for my drug and > > > > ruining my life yet another inch. How did I feel when I covered it with paper? > > > > I was ashamed of my weakness, yet again, Why did I feel this > > > > way...because I am a fat person with a garbage can full of candy wrappers. A garbage > > > > can that is emptied every day so obviously it happened in one day. I felt > > > > like the housekeeper must think there wasn't any wonder why I am so fat. It > > > > all becomes self loathing in some respect that I can't seem to conquer this > > > > addiction. I can finally admit that it is an addiction though. I had > > > > given up all white flour and sugars for about 21 days before

Halloween. Since > > > > then though, it's been a real struggle with some days so bad and others > > > > just enough off to insure a continuing of the issue.> > > > > > > > I've considered addiction therapy but honestly since it's not drug or > > > > alcohol, it's not considered much. My last doctor kept tell me to try harder! > > > > I couldn't believe the ignorance of that advice. I actually eat very > > > > healthy foods when I'm not overtaken by the sugar. I have been fighting this for > > > > 30 years since I was 25. I've never won for more than a few months.> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Best!> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > In

Beaverton, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/14/2010 9:45:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > > imhere4u1232000@ writes:> > > >> > >> >>

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Your job must be something else. I am thankful that for this time I am able to stay home with my grandbaby. But I have always worked and I have had more than one person that I have had to deal with like you describe. It's funny - why DOES it take us so many bites of food to figure things out like that?

Subject: Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE (baking the cake & eating it, too)To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 9:27 AM

Hi,thank you for saying that. It is a good reminder for me that I AM making progress even though I have just come off the 2 day "cake" eating incident. It wasn't so much about eating the "cake" it was about what I learned about myself in spite of eating the "cake". Initially I thought "oh, it's about missing my mom, STILL" but then I did the Geneen inquiry because something told me that there was more behind it than that & amazingly, what came up was that I have to be in contact with someone that I know does not like me & clearly makes it very obvious & there is nothing that I can do, I have to be at these brief "meetings" & I have to read the emails & respond. The day before the cake incident was one of these times when there was a brief meeting & I am very sensitive to people's emotions & expressions. Well the look on this person's face was telling me that she would rather step in dog poo than have to see me &

talk to me for one brief minute. I thought maybe I was imagining that so I asked someone else who was there & no, it had been pretty obvious to everyone. SOOOOOOOOO, my question is, how come it took me 1/2 a bundt cake & 2 days until I finally inquired about what was going on? NOw that I am aware I hope that I will be able to deal with this in a more effective way in the future than numbing myself with sugar & flour. I keep reminding myself, "it's a process & it takes time, keep working on it & it will happen food will eventually become just food."Here's to a day full of learning & practice (but not too much, I hope) LOL.Cheers!!!!mj> > > >> > > > > > > > What was going on for you when you were reaching into your desk for those > > > > hidden candy bars? What were you feeling - bored, anxious,.....? How did >

> > > you feel when you covered over the empty wrappers with paper? Why did you > > > > feel this way? > > > > > > > > ~~~> > > > I have actually given a lot of thought into your questions (above). I > > > > know the experts believe we are eating out of some feelings, like boredom, > > > > sadness etc. What was I really feeling? Honestly, I was at work doing my job > > > > that I love, when I was suddenly hit with an urge to eat the candy. I > > > > told myself I didn't really want that...I had promised myself not to do that, > > > > my face is already a mess from previous encounters with the candy and yet > > > > those overwhelming thoughts of the candy continued. Even as I was reaching > > > > into the drawer for them, I kept telling myself not to do it. Even as I

> > > > was pulling off the wrappers and chewing the candy. I wasn't bored, > > > > stressed, hurt, sad, lonely none of it. I was an addict going for my drug and > > > > ruining my life yet another inch. How did I feel when I covered it with paper? > > > > I was ashamed of my weakness, yet again, Why did I feel this > > > > way...because I am a fat person with a garbage can full of candy wrappers. A garbage > > > > can that is emptied every day so obviously it happened in one day. I felt > > > > like the housekeeper must think there wasn't any wonder why I am so fat. It > > > > all becomes self loathing in some respect that I can't seem to conquer this > > > > addiction. I can finally admit that it is an addiction though. I had > > > > given up all white flour and sugars for about 21 days before

Halloween. Since > > > > then though, it's been a real struggle with some days so bad and others > > > > just enough off to insure a continuing of the issue.> > > > > > > > I've considered addiction therapy but honestly since it's not drug or > > > > alcohol, it's not considered much. My last doctor kept tell me to try harder! > > > > I couldn't believe the ignorance of that advice. I actually eat very > > > > healthy foods when I'm not overtaken by the sugar. I have been fighting this for > > > > 30 years since I was 25. I've never won for more than a few months.> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > Best!> > > > > > > > Sunny> > > > > > > > In

Beaverton, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/14/2010 9:45:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > > imhere4u1232000@ writes:> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi, mj,

My coach recently led me through a "body scan," where you remember first something that made you feel terrible

and scan your whole body to remember where it is you feel this type of thing (it always hits me in my throat, shoulders, and pit of my stomach; my lower arms go numb!), then you do the same for a wonderful memory. This exercise is to help you pick things that make you feel good and avoid those that don't, but I think it could also be used for IE, to identify when you're having an experience or memory that makes you feel bad enough you might want to numb yourself with food.

What a hard thing to have to sit with that person! Do you know why she feels this way, and if not, could you approach her privately and ask if you have offended her in some way? It might open the discussion or at least put her on notice that she's broadcasting her emotions to everyone, and you at least won't sit silently and just take her scorn without saying something. What she's doing is not fair to anyone at the meeting, not just you. She's injecting her own emotional reality onto everyone else, and I'd be hard pressed not to call her on it, especially since you say you can't avoid dealing with her. Even if you know why she feels this way, maybe there's some way of clearing the air so everyone doesn't have to endure her attitude.

Laurie

Re: Sugar/Flour Addict and IE (baking the cake & eating it, too)

Hi,

thank you for saying that. It is a good reminder for me that I AM making progress even though I have just come off the 2 day "cake" eating incident. It wasn't so much about eating the "cake" it was about what I learned about myself in spite of eating the "cake". Initially I thought "oh, it's about missing my mom, STILL" but then I did the Geneen inquiry because something told me that there was more behind it than that & amazingly, what came up was that I have to be in contact with someone that I know does not like me & clearly makes it very obvious & there is nothing that I can do, I have to be at these brief "meetings" & I have to read the emails & respond. The day before the cake incident was one of these times when there was a brief meeting & I am very sensitive to people's emotions & expressions. Well the look on this person's face was telling me that she would rather step in dog poo than have to see me & talk to me for one brief minute. I thought maybe I was imagining that so I asked someone else who was there & no, it had been pretty obvious to everyone. SOOOOOOOOO, my question is, how come it took me 1/2 a bundt cake & 2 days until I finally inquired about what was going on? NOw that I am aware I hope that I will be able to deal with this in a more effective way in the future than numbing myself with sugar & flour. I keep reminding myself, "it's a process & it takes time, keep working on it & it will happen food will eventually become just food."

Here's to a day full of learning & practice (but not too much, I hope) LOL.

Cheers!!!!

mj

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> > > >

> > > > What was going on for you when you were reaching into your desk for those

> > > > hidden candy bars? What were you feeling - bored, anxious,.....? How did

> > > > you feel when you covered over the empty wrappers with paper? Why did you

> > > > feel this way?

> > > >

> > > > ~~~

> > > > I have actually given a lot of thought into your questions (above). I

> > > > know the experts believe we are eating out of some feelings, like boredom,

> > > > sadness etc. What was I really feeling? Honestly, I was at work doing my job

> > > > that I love, when I was suddenly hit with an urge to eat the candy. I

> > > > told myself I didn't really want that...I had promised myself not to do that,

> > > > my face is already a mess from previous encounters with the candy and yet

> > > > those overwhelming thoughts of the candy continued. Even as I was reaching

> > > > into the drawer for them, I kept telling myself not to do it. Even as I

> > > > was pulling off the wrappers and chewing the candy. I wasn't bored,

> > > > stressed, hurt, sad, lonely none of it. I was an addict going for my drug and

> > > > ruining my life yet another inch. How did I feel when I covered it with paper?

> > > > I was ashamed of my weakness, yet again, Why did I feel this

> > > > way...because I am a fat person with a garbage can full of candy wrappers. A garbage

> > > > can that is emptied every day so obviously it happened in one day. I felt

> > > > like the housekeeper must think there wasn't any wonder why I am so fat. It

> > > > all becomes self loathing in some respect that I can't seem to conquer this

> > > > addiction. I can finally admit that it is an addiction though. I had

> > > > given up all white flour and sugars for about 21 days before Halloween. Since

> > > > then though, it's been a real struggle with some days so bad and others

> > > > just enough off to insure a continuing of the issue.

> > > >

> > > > I've considered addiction therapy but honestly since it's not drug or

> > > > alcohol, it's not considered much. My last doctor kept tell me to try harder!

> > > > I couldn't believe the ignorance of that advice. I actually eat very

> > > > healthy foods when I'm not overtaken by the sugar. I have been fighting this for

> > > > 30 years since I was 25. I've never won for more than a few months.

> > > >

> > > > Sunny

> > > >

> > > > Sunny

> > > >

> > > > Best!

> > > >

> > > > Sunny

> > > >

> > > > In Beaverton, OR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 11/14/2010 9:45:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > > > imhere4u1232000@ writes:

> > > >

> > >

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