Re: Experience with NDF or PCA for naturally detoxing/chelating?

[Guest guest]

You do not have to do IV chelation just because you want to chelate. The

problem, in my opinion, with many natural products is that there is not research

as to the necessary dosing shedule/amount/duration. There are low dose oral

protocols using DMPS/DMSA/ALA that many people have found to be safe and

effective.

Dr. Suzanne Fleeson-DaSilva

www.fcchiropracticcenter.com

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> I believe it was NDF that as a group on chelating kids we had tested and it

HAD metals in it. the NDF plus was safe if I remember correctly it was the

regular that wasn't. so buyer beware!

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> From: nanzbier44

> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:47 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Experience with NDF or PCA for naturally

detoxing/chelating?

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> I have recently found out thru Hair Analysis from Doctors Data that my

daughter is high in mercury and other metals. I am not quite comfortable in IV

chelation and would like to go the natural route if possible. Someone had

recommended NDF and PCA... can anyone please share their experience with this?

We are also thinking of taking the Liver Support by the same people who make

NDF. It seems that PCA has more to offer as far as issues with mycoplasma,

clostridia, etc. My fear with these natural products is that the metals are not

totally getting out of the body...and may lodge in other places. what can help

from preventing this from happening?

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> Thanks for any insight!

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> N

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[Guest guest]

What about ALA (alpha lipoic acid)? I was thinking of

using this but am concerned that it can increase yeast. Would NDF plus be

better? We did DMSA a few months and I think it did help. We stopped because

my daughter has been on and off sick the last month. I have mixed feeling

about starting it again due to safety concerns.

Thanks,

LInda

From:

mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Ayse Yilmaz

Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011

4:49 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re:

Experience with NDF or PCA for naturally detoxing/chelating?

Hello

My son is on NDF plus. My DAN wanted me to use it because he thinks it

is the safest. It does not mess up the gut like DMSA. So we started with 1

drop. Added 1 drop every other week. When we hit 5 drops two times a day DAN

asked us to stay there. It has been almost 8 months since we have started. I

checked his Toxic metal levels after 6 months. Lead was dropped from 26 to 24.2

.. I do not think this is a very fast detox but I do not have courage to do the

chelation faster since it makes my son hyper.

[Guest guest]

For what it's worth...

We used ALA in conjunction w/juicing and supplements. ALA is used because it

has been known to increase glutathione. (which is a natural detoxer).

Our bodies have a natural defense and detoxing mechanism, by supplementing, you

just increase the resources available to detox. When you juice you just

increase the amount one can consume to help in this dept. (thereby flooding the

system with instant resources.)

I think allowing your body to do what it is supposed to do, is the best way to

'teach' it. The problem with that is time. When parents choose to chelate,

it's because time is of the essence. We truly don't know how long it takes for

the effects to be permanent when dealing with heavy metals, because I think for

each person it's different. (as there are so many variables.)

In terms of yeast, yeast thrives in acidic conditions. CHange the conditions,

and it can't survive. Diet is the main factor in that. Choosing more alkaline

foods over acidic foods (more veg than meat as meat and grains tend to be

acidic) We too had yeast issues, but I always thought of it as a symptom rather

than the root problem. While I 'treated' it, I knew the status wouldn't change

until my son (and brother) started to choose more alkaline foods. This happened

once we got our zinc on board and it started to work. They eat a lot of

veggies.

We used juicing as a way of changing the condition of the intestines. It worked

wonderfully. I had just read that cabbage juice (4oz per day) can change the

system from acidic to alkaline in something like a week (I can't remember

exactly, but I do remember it was a very short period of time) I also made

KimCHi which is fermented cabbage with lots of great microbes. I do think this

combination was the reason I was able to get rid of the all the bad stuff

relatively quickly.

I hope this helps!! laura

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> What about ALA (alpha lipoic acid)? I was thinking of using this but am

> concerned that it can increase yeast. Would NDF plus be better? We did

> DMSA a few months and I think it did help. We stopped because my daughter

> has been on and off sick the last month. I have mixed feeling about

> starting it again due to safety concerns.

>

> Thanks,

>

> LInda

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>

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> From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> Behalf Of Ayse Yilmaz

> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:49 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Re: Experience with NDF or PCA for naturally

> detoxing/chelating?

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> Hello

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> My son is on NDF plus. My DAN wanted me to use it because he thinks it is

> the safest. It does not mess up the gut like DMSA. So we started with 1

> drop. Added 1 drop every other week. When we hit 5 drops two times a day DAN

> asked us to stay there. It has been almost 8 months since we have started. I

> checked his Toxic metal levels after 6 months. Lead was dropped from 26 to

> 24.2 . I do not think this is a very fast detox but I do not have courage to

> do the chelation faster since it makes my son hyper.

>

[Guest guest]

ALA is one of the only chelators proven to cross the BBB if not given correctly

according to it's 1/2 life you could end up doing permanent irreversible damage.

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> > What about ALA (alpha lipoic acid)? I was thinking of using this but am

> > concerned that it can increase yeast. Would NDF plus be better? We did

> > DMSA a few months and I think it did help. We stopped because my daughter

> > has been on and off sick the last month. I have mixed feeling about

> > starting it again due to safety concerns.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > LInda

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> >

> > _____

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> > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On

> > Behalf Of Ayse Yilmaz

> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:49 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Re: Experience with NDF or PCA for naturally

> > detoxing/chelating?

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> >

> >

> > Hello

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> > My son is on NDF plus. My DAN wanted me to use it because he thinks it is

> > the safest. It does not mess up the gut like DMSA. So we started with 1

> > drop. Added 1 drop every other week. When we hit 5 drops two times a day DAN

> > asked us to stay there. It has been almost 8 months since we have started. I

> > checked his Toxic metal levels after 6 months. Lead was dropped from 26 to

> > 24.2 . I do not think this is a very fast detox but I do not have courage to

> > do the chelation faster since it makes my son hyper.

> >

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