A new DSM classification: developmental trauma disorder

[Guest guest]

I came across this news at another group I belong to.

The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now, and

the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that describes

the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that children

experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and sometimes

physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

Here's an excerpt:

" In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and the

Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being exposed

to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their mothers

being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more common

than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to adult

health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis for

children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you can

download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview, or

supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated about

what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that just

isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state, but

there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids better

than they're being helped now.

-Annie

[Guest guest]

I made it to page 9 of the pdf before I felt the Disassociation coming on...

ironic, isn't it?

I did, however, forward this on to an Attorney I may have been called to testify

for as an 'expert witness " (thank God for cradentials) as to the first person

accounts of BPD on a child in a case he's taking to trial.

So, today I had a therapy appt, read this, avoided Nada and admitted to my

tharapist that I NOW understand wny people drink.

Lynnette (who won't... but I get it now)

>

> I came across this news at another group I belong to.

>

> The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now, and

the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that describes

the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that children

experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

>

> Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and sometimes

physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

>

> Here's an excerpt:

>

> " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and the

Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

>

> The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more common

than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to adult

health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

>

>

> If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis for

children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you can

download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

>

> It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview, or

supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated about

what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that just

isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state, but

there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids better

than they're being helped now.

>

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

I made it to page 9 of the pdf before I felt the Disassociation coming on...

ironic, isn't it?

I did, however, forward this on to an Attorney I may have been called to testify

for as an 'expert witness " (thank God for cradentials) as to the first person

accounts of BPD on a child in a case he's taking to trial.

So, today I had a therapy appt, read this, avoided Nada and admitted to my

tharapist that I NOW understand wny people drink.

Lynnette (who won't... but I get it now)

>

> I came across this news at another group I belong to.

>

> The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now, and

the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that describes

the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that children

experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

>

> Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and sometimes

physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

>

> Here's an excerpt:

>

> " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and the

Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

>

> The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more common

than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to adult

health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

>

>

> If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis for

children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you can

download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

>

> It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview, or

supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated about

what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that just

isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state, but

there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids better

than they're being helped now.

>

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, that is awesome that you have the opportunity to make a positive difference

for some poor, abused child, as an expert witness. I hope that your testimony

and the study about developmental trauma disorder will help. Any positive steps

toward rescuing kids from mentally ill parents is good, sez I!

-Annie

> >

> > I came across this news at another group I belong to.

> >

> > The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now,

and the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that

describes the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that

children experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

> >

> > Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and

sometimes physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

> >

> > Here's an excerpt:

> >

> > " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and

the Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> > 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

> >

> > The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more

common than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to

adult health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> > depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

> >

> >

> > If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis

for children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you

can download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

> >

> > It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview,

or supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated

about what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that

just isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state,

but there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids

better than they're being helped now.

> >

> > -Annie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, that is awesome that you have the opportunity to make a positive difference

for some poor, abused child, as an expert witness. I hope that your testimony

and the study about developmental trauma disorder will help. Any positive steps

toward rescuing kids from mentally ill parents is good, sez I!

-Annie

> >

> > I came across this news at another group I belong to.

> >

> > The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now,

and the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that

describes the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that

children experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

> >

> > Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and

sometimes physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

> >

> > Here's an excerpt:

> >

> > " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and

the Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> > 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

> >

> > The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more

common than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to

adult health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> > depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

> >

> >

> > If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis

for children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you

can download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

> >

> > It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview,

or supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated

about what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that

just isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state,

but there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids

better than they're being helped now.

> >

> > -Annie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview,

or supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated

about what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that

just isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian

state, but there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can

help kids better than they're being helped now.

>

> -Annie

Annie

I completely agree! Every year in my state I need to register my dog at the

town hall and pay for a licence and show papers that she is up to date with

her shots. Every year I think the same thought they want to make sure the

animals are being take care of ( and don't get me wrong I'm a huge animal

lover they should be) but anyone can have a child and no one does anything

if that child is neglected..not taken to get there shots. Why can't we

watch our children too! I wish I knew the answer but I don't know how the

state could do that with out interfering with our rights. Like you I wish

children could be safer:(

Stefanie

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

>

>

> Wow, that is awesome that you have the opportunity to make a positive

> difference for some poor, abused child, as an expert witness. I hope that

> your testimony and the study about developmental trauma disorder will help.

> Any positive steps toward rescuing kids from mentally ill parents is good,

> sez I!

> -Annie

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I came across this news at another group I belong to.

> > >

> > > The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on

> now, and the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification

> that describes the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect

> that children experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and

> mentally ill, personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it

> " Developmental Trauma Disorder " .

> > >

> > > Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and

> sometimes physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

> > >

> > > Here's an excerpt:

> > >

> > > " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente

> and the Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded

> to a questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood

> abuse, neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been

> emotionally abused as a child,

> > > 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

> exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed

> their mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

> > >

> > > The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more

> common than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful

> relation to adult health a half-century later. The study unequivocally

> confirmed earlier investigations that found a highly significant

> relationship between adverse childhood experiences and

> > > depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual

> promiscuity, domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical

> inactivity, and sexually transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse

> childhood experiences reported, the more likely a person was to develop

> heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver

> disease.... "

> > >

> > >

> > > If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational

> diagnosis for children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der

> Kolk, MD, you can download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

> > >

> > > It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of

> overview, or supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can

> be educated about what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting.

> Right now, that just isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother,

> totalitarian state, but there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism

> that can help kids better than they're being helped now.

> > >

> > > -Annie

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that children should be safer but having the state handle it would

be a disaster. As mentioned parental rights would go out the window.

Privacy should not be violated without cause. I think that a lot more of

this type of abuse would be stopped just if adults paid more attention, kids

were listened to and believed, and the courts were willing to look at more

subtle evidence.

[Guest guest]

I love the accent on 'rational' diagnoses, that is a great quote. Before they

could not handle them rationally because there was so much institutionalized

denial about just what specifically was causing people so much trouble and

disruption.

I think just the wording is a step in the right direction. it's a brilliant

label.

>

> I came across this news at another group I belong to.

>

> The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now, and

the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that describes

the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that children

experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

>

> Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and sometimes

physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

>

> Here's an excerpt:

>

> " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and the

Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

>

> The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more common

than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to adult

health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

>

>

> If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis for

children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you can

download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

>

> It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview, or

supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated about

what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that just

isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state, but

there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids better

than they're being helped now.

>

> -Annie

>

[Guest guest]

I love the accent on 'rational' diagnoses, that is a great quote. Before they

could not handle them rationally because there was so much institutionalized

denial about just what specifically was causing people so much trouble and

disruption.

I think just the wording is a step in the right direction. it's a brilliant

label.

>

> I came across this news at another group I belong to.

>

> The DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) is being worked on now, and

the psychiatrists are thinking about adding a new classification that describes

the chronic emotional, physical, and sexual abuse and neglect that children

experience when raised by substance-abusing parents and mentally ill,

personality-disordered parents. They're thinking of calling it " Developmental

Trauma Disorder " .

>

> Its what happened to us KOs: its the ongoing, chronic emotional, and sometimes

physical and sexual abuse and/or neglect we endured.

>

> Here's an excerpt:

>

> " In the Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) study by Kaiser Permanente and the

Center for Disease Control (2), 17,337 adult HMO members responded to a

questionnaire about adverse childhood experiences, including childhood abuse,

neglect, and family dysfunction. 11.0% reported having been emotionally abused

as a child,

> 30.1% reported physical abuse, 19.9% sexual abuse; 23.5% reported being

exposed to family alcohol abuse, 18.8% to mental illness, 12.5% witnessed their

mothers being battered and 4.9% reported family drug abuse.

>

> The ACE study showed that adverse childhood experiences are vastly more common

than recognized or acknowledged and that they have a powerful relation to adult

health a half-century later. The study unequivocally confirmed earlier

investigations that found a highly significant relationship between adverse

childhood experiences and

> depression, suicide attempts, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity,

domestic violence, cigarette smoking, obesity, physical inactivity, and sexually

transmitted diseases. In addition, the more adverse childhood experiences

reported, the more likely a person was to develop heart disease, cancer, stroke,

diabetes, skeletal fractures, and liver disease.... "

>

>

> If you Google " Developmental trauma disorder: Towards a rational diagnosis for

children with complex trauma histories " by Bessel A. van der Kolk, MD, you can

download the whole PDF file, or read it online.

>

> It just reinforces my opinion that there needs to be some kind of overview, or

supervision, or monitoring of parents so that the parents can be educated about

what constitutes good parenting vs harmful parenting. Right now, that just

isn't possible because its too much like a Big Brother, totalitarian state, but

there's got to be SOMEthing short of totalitarianism that can help kids better

than they're being helped now.

>

> -Annie

>