Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Fiona, I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.) Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size". Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PMSubject: Recently new member Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). How do you take your power back in such a situation?Fiona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Fiona, I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.) Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size". Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PMSubject: Recently new member Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). How do you take your power back in such a situation?Fiona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Fioni, Welcome. I think this yahoo group has a lot of energy and good vibes. I think you will enjoy being part of it. I was just recently (in the last week) diagnosed with Hashimoto's (an auto immune disease which destroys the thyroid function.) It is indeed scary and unsettling when our thyroid is not functioning and we get what one author of a thyroid book calls " inappropriate weight gain " (that is weight gain which has nothing to do with overeating.) There are apparently a whole lot of complex internal processes having to do with T hormones (t-3) and lipins which can influence our appetite and weight. Reading about this " triggered " (that is frightened me) this afternoon and I felt scared eating my lunch (Was this real hunger or had some " metabolic monster " overtaken my body? ) I did some journal writing about this and I have reconfirmed that even though the metabolism will be doing its thing, listening to body signals is the only thing that I can rely on. That's why God gave us these signals such as fullness cues and hunger. Fiona, the body signals, such as fullness are there. Sometimes they seem to speak in a whisper or sometimes we might not want to listen to them (and continue eating.) This Yahoo board is based on the book " Intuitive Eating. " The authors offer excellent advice. I also recommend Geneen Roth's " Breaking Free from Emotional Eating " and Koenig's " The Rules of Normal Eating, " which also talk about learning to tune into body signals. PS. I don't usually talk about weight--but I will mention this--because it is an affirmation of this approach. I lost thirty pounds this past year by being very in tune with my eating. I lost that thirty pounds while walking around with undiagnosed hypothyroidism. I apparently adjusted my eating to the slowing down in metabolism. I have done a lot of work with accepting my body at any weight--and so that work is coming in handy right now. I have bloatedness and possibly (I don't weigh myself) some " inappropriate weight gain " and just am continuing on with my listening to my body practices. > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Fioni, Welcome. I think this yahoo group has a lot of energy and good vibes. I think you will enjoy being part of it. I was just recently (in the last week) diagnosed with Hashimoto's (an auto immune disease which destroys the thyroid function.) It is indeed scary and unsettling when our thyroid is not functioning and we get what one author of a thyroid book calls " inappropriate weight gain " (that is weight gain which has nothing to do with overeating.) There are apparently a whole lot of complex internal processes having to do with T hormones (t-3) and lipins which can influence our appetite and weight. Reading about this " triggered " (that is frightened me) this afternoon and I felt scared eating my lunch (Was this real hunger or had some " metabolic monster " overtaken my body? ) I did some journal writing about this and I have reconfirmed that even though the metabolism will be doing its thing, listening to body signals is the only thing that I can rely on. That's why God gave us these signals such as fullness cues and hunger. Fiona, the body signals, such as fullness are there. Sometimes they seem to speak in a whisper or sometimes we might not want to listen to them (and continue eating.) This Yahoo board is based on the book " Intuitive Eating. " The authors offer excellent advice. I also recommend Geneen Roth's " Breaking Free from Emotional Eating " and Koenig's " The Rules of Normal Eating, " which also talk about learning to tune into body signals. PS. I don't usually talk about weight--but I will mention this--because it is an affirmation of this approach. I lost thirty pounds this past year by being very in tune with my eating. I lost that thirty pounds while walking around with undiagnosed hypothyroidism. I apparently adjusted my eating to the slowing down in metabolism. I have done a lot of work with accepting my body at any weight--and so that work is coming in handy right now. I have bloatedness and possibly (I don't weigh myself) some " inappropriate weight gain " and just am continuing on with my listening to my body practices. > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Fioni, Welcome. I think this yahoo group has a lot of energy and good vibes. I think you will enjoy being part of it. I was just recently (in the last week) diagnosed with Hashimoto's (an auto immune disease which destroys the thyroid function.) It is indeed scary and unsettling when our thyroid is not functioning and we get what one author of a thyroid book calls " inappropriate weight gain " (that is weight gain which has nothing to do with overeating.) There are apparently a whole lot of complex internal processes having to do with T hormones (t-3) and lipins which can influence our appetite and weight. Reading about this " triggered " (that is frightened me) this afternoon and I felt scared eating my lunch (Was this real hunger or had some " metabolic monster " overtaken my body? ) I did some journal writing about this and I have reconfirmed that even though the metabolism will be doing its thing, listening to body signals is the only thing that I can rely on. That's why God gave us these signals such as fullness cues and hunger. Fiona, the body signals, such as fullness are there. Sometimes they seem to speak in a whisper or sometimes we might not want to listen to them (and continue eating.) This Yahoo board is based on the book " Intuitive Eating. " The authors offer excellent advice. I also recommend Geneen Roth's " Breaking Free from Emotional Eating " and Koenig's " The Rules of Normal Eating, " which also talk about learning to tune into body signals. PS. I don't usually talk about weight--but I will mention this--because it is an affirmation of this approach. I lost thirty pounds this past year by being very in tune with my eating. I lost that thirty pounds while walking around with undiagnosed hypothyroidism. I apparently adjusted my eating to the slowing down in metabolism. I have done a lot of work with accepting my body at any weight--and so that work is coming in handy right now. I have bloatedness and possibly (I don't weigh myself) some " inappropriate weight gain " and just am continuing on with my listening to my body practices. > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Laurie,It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived.Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it).Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism.I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this.This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body.The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook.They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution][My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! }>> Hi Fiona,> I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> Laurie> > > > > ________________________________> To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> Subject: Recently new member> >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > Fiona> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Laurie,It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived.Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it).Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism.I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this.This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body.The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook.They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution][My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! }>> Hi Fiona,> I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> Laurie> > > > > ________________________________> To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> Subject: Recently new member> >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > Fiona> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Laurie,It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived.Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it).Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism.I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this.This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body.The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook.They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution][My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! }>> Hi Fiona,> I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> Laurie> > > > > ________________________________> To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> Subject: Recently new member> >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > Fiona> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book " On Eating " . That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it. SUE > > Susie Orbach uses that " peeing " metaphor in one of her books (I haven't > read it). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book " On Eating " . That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it. SUE > > Susie Orbach uses that " peeing " metaphor in one of her books (I haven't > read it). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book " On Eating " . That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it. SUE > > Susie Orbach uses that " peeing " metaphor in one of her books (I haven't > read it). > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi , I am hanging in there with the piano lessons; still feel it's too important to give up on despite the economy. Thanks for the welcome back :.) I agree that we all have satiation signals; sometimes I wonder if mine are dim because I'd spent many, many years way out of tune with them; maybe 18+ years of starving quieted them? Or the other possibility is that my very slow metabolism could cause the signals to be delayed. I've not been diagnosed but suspect there's some reason why my metabolism is very slow. Or on the other hand, maybe it's just what I got handed genetically? I haven't looked into it much yet. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:06:48 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi Laurie,It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived.Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it).Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism.I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this.This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body.The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook.They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution][My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! }>> Hi Fiona,> I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> Laurie> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: fiona_the_aussie editor@...> To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member> >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > Fiona> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi , I am hanging in there with the piano lessons; still feel it's too important to give up on despite the economy. Thanks for the welcome back :.) I agree that we all have satiation signals; sometimes I wonder if mine are dim because I'd spent many, many years way out of tune with them; maybe 18+ years of starving quieted them? Or the other possibility is that my very slow metabolism could cause the signals to be delayed. I've not been diagnosed but suspect there's some reason why my metabolism is very slow. Or on the other hand, maybe it's just what I got handed genetically? I haven't looked into it much yet. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:06:48 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi Laurie,It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived.Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it).Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism.I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this.This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body.The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook.They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution][My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! }>> Hi Fiona,> I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> Laurie> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: fiona_the_aussie editor@...> To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member> >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > Fiona> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Sue, I read Susie Orbach's books but it was a while ago, so maybe I did pick that up from her book. I do like the analogy a lot because we never make whether we have to pee a moral issue; we never say I know I have to pee but maybe I'll try to wait a couple hours, lol. The only time it's an issue for me is if I get a bladder infection. Oh and we never try to pee just half of it, lol!! Like sometimes we're hungry and try and eat a "half" portion (half of what we really need for comfortable satiety is what I mean). Well, at least those are things I did in my dieting days. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book "On Eating". That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it.SUE> > Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't> read it).> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Sue, I read Susie Orbach's books but it was a while ago, so maybe I did pick that up from her book. I do like the analogy a lot because we never make whether we have to pee a moral issue; we never say I know I have to pee but maybe I'll try to wait a couple hours, lol. The only time it's an issue for me is if I get a bladder infection. Oh and we never try to pee just half of it, lol!! Like sometimes we're hungry and try and eat a "half" portion (half of what we really need for comfortable satiety is what I mean). Well, at least those are things I did in my dieting days. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book "On Eating". That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it.SUE> > Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't> read it).> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hi Sue, I read Susie Orbach's books but it was a while ago, so maybe I did pick that up from her book. I do like the analogy a lot because we never make whether we have to pee a moral issue; we never say I know I have to pee but maybe I'll try to wait a couple hours, lol. The only time it's an issue for me is if I get a bladder infection. Oh and we never try to pee just half of it, lol!! Like sometimes we're hungry and try and eat a "half" portion (half of what we really need for comfortable satiety is what I mean). Well, at least those are things I did in my dieting days. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi : That 'peeing' metaphor is in Susie Orbach's book "On Eating". That's one of my favorite IE books. It's small, easy to read, but packed with great suggestions. I suggest you read it ASAP, if you have it.SUE> > Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't> read it).> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 , Just wondering but does the yearly blood test not show up irregularities with the thyroid? Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Laurie, Yes, the piano lessons are important. Your students are lucky to have you. I rely on my stomach sensations a lot. I don't like to overeat. It hurts. Even if the food is still tasting good while I'm at the table, I know there is the post meal time. It's amazing how much food that we have in this house that I don't eat because there is simply no room. > > > > Hi Fiona, > > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally " normal " eater :.) > > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for " fitness at any size " . > > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > > Laurie > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@ > > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member > > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > Fiona > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Laurie, Yes, the piano lessons are important. Your students are lucky to have you. I rely on my stomach sensations a lot. I don't like to overeat. It hurts. Even if the food is still tasting good while I'm at the table, I know there is the post meal time. It's amazing how much food that we have in this house that I don't eat because there is simply no room. > > > > Hi Fiona, > > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally " normal " eater :.) > > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for " fitness at any size " . > > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > > Laurie > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@ > > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member > > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > Fiona > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Laurie, Yes, the piano lessons are important. Your students are lucky to have you. I rely on my stomach sensations a lot. I don't like to overeat. It hurts. Even if the food is still tasting good while I'm at the table, I know there is the post meal time. It's amazing how much food that we have in this house that I don't eat because there is simply no room. > > > > Hi Fiona, > > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally " normal " eater :.) > > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for " fitness at any size " . > > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > > Laurie > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@ > > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com > > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member > > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which was how I found this group. > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > Fiona > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Sue and Laurie, Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the " mothers " of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy. Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Sue and Laurie, Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the " mothers " of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy. Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Sue and Laurie, Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the " mothers " of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy. Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 My son was diagnosed hypothyroid at 13 (he's 18 now). There can also be very vague symptoms that don't seem to be connected to anything. If he gets too low on his dosing (teenagers sometimes have to have their dosage adjusted quite a bit), his eyelid twitches. Reynaud's phenomenon (blanching of the fingers or toes--they turn dead white, which looks really odd) is also pretty common. He gets that from time to time even when his dose is correct according to blood levels. Hormones are tricky things. Even being just a little off can have big effects. Sohni followyourbliss50 wrote: Hi Laurie, It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived. Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it). Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism. I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this. This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body. The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook. They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution] [My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! } > > Hi Fiona, > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.) > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size". > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > Laurie > > > > > ________________________________ > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > Subject: Recently new member > >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 My son was diagnosed hypothyroid at 13 (he's 18 now). There can also be very vague symptoms that don't seem to be connected to anything. If he gets too low on his dosing (teenagers sometimes have to have their dosage adjusted quite a bit), his eyelid twitches. Reynaud's phenomenon (blanching of the fingers or toes--they turn dead white, which looks really odd) is also pretty common. He gets that from time to time even when his dose is correct according to blood levels. Hormones are tricky things. Even being just a little off can have big effects. Sohni followyourbliss50 wrote: Hi Laurie, It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived. Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it). Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism. I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this. This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body. The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook. They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution] [My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! } > > Hi Fiona, > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.) > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size". > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > Laurie > > > > > ________________________________ > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > Subject: Recently new member > >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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