Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 My son was diagnosed hypothyroid at 13 (he's 18 now). There can also be very vague symptoms that don't seem to be connected to anything. If he gets too low on his dosing (teenagers sometimes have to have their dosage adjusted quite a bit), his eyelid twitches. Reynaud's phenomenon (blanching of the fingers or toes--they turn dead white, which looks really odd) is also pretty common. He gets that from time to time even when his dose is correct according to blood levels. Hormones are tricky things. Even being just a little off can have big effects. Sohni followyourbliss50 wrote: Hi Laurie, It's great to read your posts again. Welcome back! I hope your piano teaching business survived. Susie Orbach uses that "peeing" metaphor in one of her books (I haven't read it). Just a "public service announcement" regarding hypothyroidism. I highly recommend that people (especially females and especially those entering menopause) get their TSH levels checked and also the freeT4 to check for this. This is a very serious disease and one's thyroid affects not just one's weight, but one's brain cells and heart--every cell of the body. The symptoms are very similar to "just getting older" or possibly menopause and are easy to overlook. They include "general tiredness, weight gain, aches and pains in joints and muscles, muscle cramps, constipation, feeling cold even in warm temperatures" [Arem, The Thyroid Solution] [My feet got very cold, like icicles; I live in Southern California; I had to wear socks to bed. I also had other symptoms which you will be happy to not have me describe! } > > Hi Fiona, > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!) > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.) > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me. > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim. > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size". > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here. > Laurie > > > > > ________________________________ > From: fiona_the_aussie editor@... > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM > Subject: Recently new member > >  > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group. > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful. > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > Fiona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Jeanne, I don't think it's part of a regular CBC, if that's the test you're referring to. The T4/TSH is a separate test. My son just happened to be diagnosed because I asked his doctor whether he needed a second vaccination for chicken pox, so she ran some titers to check his immunities and happened to throw in the thyroid test. We had no idea he was hypothyroid--he was tired and sleeping a lot, but what teenager isn't? Other than that and the weird twitching and some muscle aches (he was also playing baseball), he really didn't have symptoms. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: , Just wondering but does the yearly blood test not show up irregularities with the thyroid? Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi Jeanne, I don't think it's part of a regular CBC, if that's the test you're referring to. The T4/TSH is a separate test. My son just happened to be diagnosed because I asked his doctor whether he needed a second vaccination for chicken pox, so she ran some titers to check his immunities and happened to throw in the thyroid test. We had no idea he was hypothyroid--he was tired and sleeping a lot, but what teenager isn't? Other than that and the weird twitching and some muscle aches (he was also playing baseball), he really didn't have symptoms. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: , Just wondering but does the yearly blood test not show up irregularities with the thyroid? Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks for the info, Sohni! It is so regrettable that your son at so young an age has these kind of medical problems, but it is a good thing they found it. I was curious! Hope you're having a good day and are are having an extremely exhausting Monday! All the best, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks for the info, Sohni! It is so regrettable that your son at so young an age has these kind of medical problems, but it is a good thing they found it. I was curious! Hope you're having a good day and are are having an extremely exhausting Monday! All the best, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks for the info, Sohni! It is so regrettable that your son at so young an age has these kind of medical problems, but it is a good thing they found it. I was curious! Hope you're having a good day and are are having an extremely exhausting Monday! All the best, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Uh-oh! Sohni, I do apologize because what I meant to say was, "Hope you're having a good day and are NOT having an extremely exhausting Monday!" Guess I need to get the fingers and brain in sync!! But then it is Monday!!! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Uh-oh! Sohni, I do apologize because what I meant to say was, "Hope you're having a good day and are NOT having an extremely exhausting Monday!" Guess I need to get the fingers and brain in sync!! But then it is Monday!!! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 lol, it's a comical way to look at it, but it makes sense :.) I wish more than anything that I would arrive at a state of no room in my stomach but the honest to God truth, and I'm not exaggerating, is I have much room even past the comfortable satiety point. Must be from years of starving and then huge binges. I am not exaggerating to say that I can eat (I don't anymore) five pieces of pizza, and maybe six, before I start to feel uncomfortable!!! I usually eat one and a salad nowadays but if my body only had room for one, it would be lots easier. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 10:14:22 AMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi Sue and Laurie,Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the "mothers" of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy.Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 lol, it's a comical way to look at it, but it makes sense :.) I wish more than anything that I would arrive at a state of no room in my stomach but the honest to God truth, and I'm not exaggerating, is I have much room even past the comfortable satiety point. Must be from years of starving and then huge binges. I am not exaggerating to say that I can eat (I don't anymore) five pieces of pizza, and maybe six, before I start to feel uncomfortable!!! I usually eat one and a salad nowadays but if my body only had room for one, it would be lots easier. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 10:14:22 AMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi Sue and Laurie,Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the "mothers" of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy.Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 lol, it's a comical way to look at it, but it makes sense :.) I wish more than anything that I would arrive at a state of no room in my stomach but the honest to God truth, and I'm not exaggerating, is I have much room even past the comfortable satiety point. Must be from years of starving and then huge binges. I am not exaggerating to say that I can eat (I don't anymore) five pieces of pizza, and maybe six, before I start to feel uncomfortable!!! I usually eat one and a salad nowadays but if my body only had room for one, it would be lots easier. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 10:14:22 AMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi Sue and Laurie,Sue, thanks for telling us the title. Susie Orbach is one of the "mothers" of the nondiet movement. I have read most of her work, but missed this one. Yes, I have been meaning to get a copy.Laurie, I love your analogies/examples. I never looked at it like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Abby Thanks for that. I do know it is my choice, I just don't do well under pressure from genuine information such as nutritional advice I feel I " should " take. I think I need to learn to listen to my gut as much as my brain as I am an incorrigible researcher, always seeking answers. But I tend to look outside first (BTW googling symptoms is a surefire way to induce panic). I'm not always in tune with eating, but when I remember to pay attention I do so without judging whether or not I want to overeat. I have noticed now that as I approach satiety I begin to really slow down my eating - and I am a very slow eater to start with (always the last to finish a meal in a group). When I notice that I ask myself how many bites do I think it will take to reach satiety and how many do I want to have? Usually I want 2 to 4 more than I feel I need to hit the right point. But I don't feel overly full, just comfortable. So that is progress. It means that when I do notice this, I know I am overeating and I know roughly where the satiety is likely to be at. I wonder what the next step for me is - maybe putting down my fork for a minute or two as soon as I notice I am slowing down? Fiona > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Sohni! It is so regrettable that your son at so > young an age has th... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Abby Thanks for that. I do know it is my choice, I just don't do well under pressure from genuine information such as nutritional advice I feel I " should " take. I think I need to learn to listen to my gut as much as my brain as I am an incorrigible researcher, always seeking answers. But I tend to look outside first (BTW googling symptoms is a surefire way to induce panic). I'm not always in tune with eating, but when I remember to pay attention I do so without judging whether or not I want to overeat. I have noticed now that as I approach satiety I begin to really slow down my eating - and I am a very slow eater to start with (always the last to finish a meal in a group). When I notice that I ask myself how many bites do I think it will take to reach satiety and how many do I want to have? Usually I want 2 to 4 more than I feel I need to hit the right point. But I don't feel overly full, just comfortable. So that is progress. It means that when I do notice this, I know I am overeating and I know roughly where the satiety is likely to be at. I wonder what the next step for me is - maybe putting down my fork for a minute or two as soon as I notice I am slowing down? Fiona > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, Sohni! It is so regrettable that your son at so > young an age has th... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Fiona, I like " saving room " for dessert. I think author Koenig once mentioned that there is something biological about us wanting to have something sweet at the end of a meal. One of my favorite really tiny chocolate desserts, when I really don't have much room left but want something chocolate is to have a Riesens (dark caramel candy) with a few dark chocolate chips. Eating the chocolate chips at the same time with it does the job. Fiona, Thanks for the info regarding Hashi's. I'm glad you're better (that is not having heart palpitations or " dyspnea " (shortness of breath). It's not surprising patients have these issues as we have lost the wonderful mechanism of a naturally functioning thyroid, which knows precisely how much and what type of hormone to give our cells. > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a > > > > while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > > > > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of > > > > last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity > > > > that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > > > > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which > > > > makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until > > > > age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that > > > > vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there > > > > must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which > > > > was how I found this group. > > > > > > > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is > > > > little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for > > > > the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > > > > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop > > > > button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it > > > > tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one > > > > for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. > > > > Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow > > > > metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour > > > > or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > > > > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by > > > > having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > > > > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high > > > > last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to > > > > deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on > > > > relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal > > > > with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > > > > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if > > > > I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with > > > > authority eg medical). > > > > > > > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > > > > > > > Fiona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Fiona, I like " saving room " for dessert. I think author Koenig once mentioned that there is something biological about us wanting to have something sweet at the end of a meal. One of my favorite really tiny chocolate desserts, when I really don't have much room left but want something chocolate is to have a Riesens (dark caramel candy) with a few dark chocolate chips. Eating the chocolate chips at the same time with it does the job. Fiona, Thanks for the info regarding Hashi's. I'm glad you're better (that is not having heart palpitations or " dyspnea " (shortness of breath). It's not surprising patients have these issues as we have lost the wonderful mechanism of a naturally functioning thyroid, which knows precisely how much and what type of hormone to give our cells. > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a > > > > while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > > > > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of > > > > last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity > > > > that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > > > > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which > > > > makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until > > > > age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that > > > > vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there > > > > must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which > > > > was how I found this group. > > > > > > > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is > > > > little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for > > > > the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > > > > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop > > > > button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it > > > > tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one > > > > for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. > > > > Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow > > > > metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour > > > > or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > > > > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by > > > > having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > > > > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high > > > > last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to > > > > deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on > > > > relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal > > > > with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > > > > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if > > > > I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with > > > > authority eg medical). > > > > > > > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > > > > > > > Fiona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Fiona, I like " saving room " for dessert. I think author Koenig once mentioned that there is something biological about us wanting to have something sweet at the end of a meal. One of my favorite really tiny chocolate desserts, when I really don't have much room left but want something chocolate is to have a Riesens (dark caramel candy) with a few dark chocolate chips. Eating the chocolate chips at the same time with it does the job. Fiona, Thanks for the info regarding Hashi's. I'm glad you're better (that is not having heart palpitations or " dyspnea " (shortness of breath). It's not surprising patients have these issues as we have lost the wonderful mechanism of a naturally functioning thyroid, which knows precisely how much and what type of hormone to give our cells. > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a > > > > while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney. > > > > > > > > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of > > > > last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity > > > > that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > > > > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which > > > > makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until > > > > age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that > > > > vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there > > > > must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled " intuitive eating " which > > > > was how I found this group. > > > > > > > > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts > > > > very helpful. > > > > > > > > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is > > > > little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for > > > > the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > > > > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop > > > > button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it > > > > tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one > > > > for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. > > > > Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow > > > > metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour > > > > or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > > > > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by > > > > having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > > > > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high > > > > last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to > > > > deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on > > > > relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal > > > > with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors. > > > > > > > > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if > > > > I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with > > > > authority eg medical). > > > > > > > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation? > > > > > > > > > > Fiona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Fiona, I love activity and movement; the feeling of what my body can do, at whatever size I am, is great!!! In October of this past year, I took a deliberate break from exercise because I wanted to recapture the attitude of health and fitness at ANY size, and I had found myself falling into weighing, calorie counting, and I want any weight loss that comes about to be a side effect of intuitive eating rather than a weight obsession. So the reason I'm sharing this is that I know how sometimes we stop physical activity for various reasons and it takes a little self-encouraging to re-start. Your strength is that you really enjoy it!! It sounds like you've had some really exciting hiking trips! March is actually a great time to re-start because it gives several months preparation for the summer (I don't mean for appearances, lol). I am walking, jogging very, very slowly, and swimming because my goal is to be fit for ocean swimming this summer :.) Laurie Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 5:57:15 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi LaurieYour advice is well timed as I have the flu, and had a sprained knee followed by a sore heel for the last month or two. I am normally active and this has been frustrating me, so it is a good reminder that where I am right now is simply recovering so I can prepare myself for some fun and activity. I was riding my bike and walking a good part of the journey to work and loved it. I miss it!The thyroid condition tends to limit me - I find that I have a "glass ceiling" of fitness that I hit (usually about the time I am getting that lovely spring in my step) then I get sick or something slows me down.But it never stops me, you are right that I don't have to be thin to be vital, heck I have climbed active volcanoes in Kamchatka and Indonesia for fun. Wore me out but these trips were the best things I ever did. Sadly several old injuries have made it difficult to do longer hikes (carrying a pack for more than an hour causes pain) and skiing, which I love. I travel with backpack though, that's manageable.Fiona> >> > Hi Fiona,> > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> > Laurie> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: fiona_the_aussie <editor@>> > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member> > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > > > Fiona> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Fiona, I love activity and movement; the feeling of what my body can do, at whatever size I am, is great!!! In October of this past year, I took a deliberate break from exercise because I wanted to recapture the attitude of health and fitness at ANY size, and I had found myself falling into weighing, calorie counting, and I want any weight loss that comes about to be a side effect of intuitive eating rather than a weight obsession. So the reason I'm sharing this is that I know how sometimes we stop physical activity for various reasons and it takes a little self-encouraging to re-start. Your strength is that you really enjoy it!! It sounds like you've had some really exciting hiking trips! March is actually a great time to re-start because it gives several months preparation for the summer (I don't mean for appearances, lol). I am walking, jogging very, very slowly, and swimming because my goal is to be fit for ocean swimming this summer :.) Laurie Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 5:57:15 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi LaurieYour advice is well timed as I have the flu, and had a sprained knee followed by a sore heel for the last month or two. I am normally active and this has been frustrating me, so it is a good reminder that where I am right now is simply recovering so I can prepare myself for some fun and activity. I was riding my bike and walking a good part of the journey to work and loved it. I miss it!The thyroid condition tends to limit me - I find that I have a "glass ceiling" of fitness that I hit (usually about the time I am getting that lovely spring in my step) then I get sick or something slows me down.But it never stops me, you are right that I don't have to be thin to be vital, heck I have climbed active volcanoes in Kamchatka and Indonesia for fun. Wore me out but these trips were the best things I ever did. Sadly several old injuries have made it difficult to do longer hikes (carrying a pack for more than an hour causes pain) and skiing, which I love. I travel with backpack though, that's manageable.Fiona> >> > Hi Fiona,> > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> > Laurie> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: fiona_the_aussie <editor@>> > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member> > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > > > Fiona> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Fiona, I love activity and movement; the feeling of what my body can do, at whatever size I am, is great!!! In October of this past year, I took a deliberate break from exercise because I wanted to recapture the attitude of health and fitness at ANY size, and I had found myself falling into weighing, calorie counting, and I want any weight loss that comes about to be a side effect of intuitive eating rather than a weight obsession. So the reason I'm sharing this is that I know how sometimes we stop physical activity for various reasons and it takes a little self-encouraging to re-start. Your strength is that you really enjoy it!! It sounds like you've had some really exciting hiking trips! March is actually a great time to re-start because it gives several months preparation for the summer (I don't mean for appearances, lol). I am walking, jogging very, very slowly, and swimming because my goal is to be fit for ocean swimming this summer :.) Laurie Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 5:57:15 PMSubject: Re: Recently new member Hi LaurieYour advice is well timed as I have the flu, and had a sprained knee followed by a sore heel for the last month or two. I am normally active and this has been frustrating me, so it is a good reminder that where I am right now is simply recovering so I can prepare myself for some fun and activity. I was riding my bike and walking a good part of the journey to work and loved it. I miss it!The thyroid condition tends to limit me - I find that I have a "glass ceiling" of fitness that I hit (usually about the time I am getting that lovely spring in my step) then I get sick or something slows me down.But it never stops me, you are right that I don't have to be thin to be vital, heck I have climbed active volcanoes in Kamchatka and Indonesia for fun. Wore me out but these trips were the best things I ever did. Sadly several old injuries have made it difficult to do longer hikes (carrying a pack for more than an hour causes pain) and skiing, which I love. I travel with backpack though, that's manageable.Fiona> >> > Hi Fiona,> > I feel the same as you; I really, really want eating to be as natural and easy as breathing or sleeping or even peeing, lol (sorry for that one!)> > I had many, many years of totally screwed up serious dieting, border-line anorexia and so now I'm much better but I'm still aiming for the ideal; to become a totally "normal" eater :.)> > Yes, I do understand the super slow metabolism and the struggle to get in touch with satiety with layers of emotional uses for food compounding the issue. All this resonates totally for me.> > I am actually at a point of liking my body, though larger, but I need to qualify that by saying sometimes I'm frustrated with my body's metabolism and dim, very, very dim satiety signals, especially when I see the person with the super quick metabolism and they acknowledge they can eat three times as much as me and they are slim.> > Oh well, we have to make peace with what we've got in this life. Why struggle with something we can't really change too much? I can walk and exercise and it does tweek my metabolism a little, but not enough to say it's that significant. My exercise is not for weight loss but for "fitness at any size".> > Anyway, good to have you here. I'm just recently back because I'd been too busy to be here.> > Laurie> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: fiona_the_aussie <editor@>> > To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> > Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 7:42:26 PM> > Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Recently new member> > > >  > > Thought I'd finally say hi, as I've been following the posts for a while. I'm a 48-y-old Aussie in Sydney.> > > > I've struggled with lifelong weight/eating issues and at the end of last year just wanted to do one thing: have eating be a natural activity that my body does on autopilot, like breathing. > > > > A lifetime of dieting on and off along with a thyroid condition (which makes you gain weight without overeating) and remained undiagnosed until age 40 has left me exhausted and lacking vitality. I realised that vitality was the missing ingredient in my life and decided that there must be a way to eat intuitively so I googled "intuitive eating" which was how I found this group.> > > > So hello to all you intuitive eaters on here. I've found your posts very helpful.> > > > I looked into all my food/weight issues and realised while there is little I can do to fix my thyroid problem (the meds don't do a lot for the weight gain) there are other things I can work on. > > > > One is getting in touch with satiety. I just seem to have lost my stop button. It works really with drinking alcohol, if I've had enough it tastes yuck even if my glass is still full. The idea of finding the one for food (probably buried in myriad emotional issues) is one key for me. Right now I am learning to better assess satiety. I think my slow metabolism makes it kick in some time after eating - it can take an hour or more. But I seem to becoming more aware of it a little earlier. > > > > Another is emotional eating. I was punished for being a fat child by having food taken away so there are major issues there. > > > > I need to keep an eye on health issues as my blood pressure was high last time I went to the doctor as was my cholesterol. Not sure how to deal with these with IE. I now BP has emotional causes so am focusing on relaxation etc but any other suggestions are welcome as to how to deal with IE and these, particularly when talking to doctors.> > > > A major cause of my overeating has been this overwhelming fear that if I don't eat this now, food will be taken away from me (by someone with authority eg medical). > > > > How do you take your power back in such a situation?> > > > Fiona> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi, Laurie, I know your post was directed to Fiona, but I've been struggling with getting back into my walking program since I took a hiatus starting Sep 09 due to the weather (love walking outside in the fresh air far more than on a treadmill) and my laziness. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can give myself a gentle kick out the door? Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi, Laurie, I know your post was directed to Fiona, but I've been struggling with getting back into my walking program since I took a hiatus starting Sep 09 due to the weather (love walking outside in the fresh air far more than on a treadmill) and my laziness. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can give myself a gentle kick out the door? Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Jeanne: I walk daily no matter what the weather. Rather than view walking as 'exercise', I consider walking my 'transportation' to stores, clinics, libraries, etc. When I don't have a destination, I walk around our local lake and feed peanuts to the wild birds like coots and crows, who recognize me and come running or flying when I approach. There are even a few red wing blackbirds and black capped chickadees, who land on my hand to take a peanut. I don't have difficulty getting out to walk on sunny days. However, I'm less inclined on cold, rainy days. So I create destinations or routes, which I vary daily to avoid boredom. Above all, I remind myself how much better I will feel once I get into my walk. SUE > > Hi, > > Laurie, I know your post was directed to Fiona, but I've been struggling with getting back into my walking program since I took a hiatus starting Sep 09 due to the weather (love walking outside in the fresh air far more than on a treadmill) and my laziness. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can give myself a gentle kick out the door? > > Jeanne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thank you, Sue! I need to remind myself how much better I will feel both mentally and physically if I get back on the streets in my neighborhood. Unfortunately, where we live I can't consider walking my transportation, but the neighborhood terrain is physically challenging. All I think I need is a little 'mental' push out the door because the first step is always the hardest!! I sometimes can't believe that I am the same person that did that half marathon in 2008!! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thank you, Sue! I need to remind myself how much better I will feel both mentally and physically if I get back on the streets in my neighborhood. Unfortunately, where we live I can't consider walking my transportation, but the neighborhood terrain is physically challenging. All I think I need is a little 'mental' push out the door because the first step is always the hardest!! I sometimes can't believe that I am the same person that did that half marathon in 2008!! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thank you, Sue! I need to remind myself how much better I will feel both mentally and physically if I get back on the streets in my neighborhood. Unfortunately, where we live I can't consider walking my transportation, but the neighborhood terrain is physically challenging. All I think I need is a little 'mental' push out the door because the first step is always the hardest!! I sometimes can't believe that I am the same person that did that half marathon in 2008!! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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