Re: Lea N Friends

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In a message dated 10/5/2008 11:32:14 AM Central Daylight Time, dusty.com@... writes:

Amen..

It's pretty sad when your own family abandants

you over this implant illness

Sandy~

You know, Sandy, you are so correct....but the

real truth of the matter is.......they are the ones

loosing out ........on us ! ! Look at what wonderful

people we all are........you all ARE my family ! !

I love you all dearly !

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Sandy,

I'm sorry to hear you aren't doing well...what happened to your foot

to make it swollen?

How was your Ultrasound exam? I'm curious, as I have some plans that

include ultrasound technology...tell me more about it!

I'm glad that the tests came back normal at least.

Sandy, I see that you are not taking any Vitamin C--how are you

getting this?

Patty

>

> Not doing well at all .....

> Extreme back pain inbetween shoulders

> and my right foot is painful and swollen

>

> Echocardiography (Ultrasound of the Heart)

> The heart doctor said the tests came back normal

>

> I am sleeping 24/7

> I am now taking Isocort along with

> Magneseum Calcium Vitamin D

> Co Q-10 400 mg, Medizym and

> Lisinpril 20 mg

>

> Sandy~

>

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Sandy, I am so sorry that you are not doing better. Bless your precious heart. We are here for you, and we will help in any way that we can.

Honey, could you give Dr. Blais a call because he might know why this could be happening to you? He is not a doctor; however, he knows what these devices can do to us.

We love you sweetheart...Lea

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Lea N Friends

Not doing well at all .....

Extreme back pain inbetween shoulders

and my right foot is painful and swollen

Echocardiography (Ultrasound of the Heart)

The heart doctor said the tests came back normal

I am sleeping 24/7

I am now taking Isocort along with

Magneseum Calcium Vitamin D

Co Q-10 400 mg, Medizym and

Lisinpril 20 mg

Sandy~

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Jerilyn,

Welcome to our group, and let me say first of all I am sorry if you

had cancer, resulting in the mastectomies. Cancer alone is tough

enough. I am really very happy to hear that, as of yet, you don't

have any trouble healthwise with the implants. Your troubles have

certainly been frustrating so far, but at least you have your health

to be able to deal with them.

Those of us who got sick from our implants have been sick at varying

points in our journey with these medical devices. Some have gotten

sick immediately, while others have taken anywhere from 6 months to a

year to up to 10 years past initial implantation. There is no way to

know when it might hit you.

This is because we are all individual and biologically unique, and one

person's toxic load on the organs and systems of the body may be

entirely different than the next. One person's genetic makeup will be

entirely different from all the others. Some people have a liver that

detoxes quickly, while others have a liver that detoxes slowly. Some

people have a very robust immune system, while others have a weak

constitution. Some people drink, smoke, take drugs, and engage in

behaviors that others do not, and even so, it appears that the most

healthy people can get ill rather quickly. I was not a smoker,

drinker or partyer, and I got sick in 6 months.

Some women may have been exposed to any number of bacterial organisms

that can create havoc in the body. Fungus can be a concern in the

saline solution. There are just so many variables that it is hard to

pinpoint the exact reason women get sick.

And this has been the problem since day one. Nobody knows WHY women

get sick from implants, and therefore they assume NOBODY does; that

implants themselves are safe and the women would have gotten sick

anyway.

But we know that since women are getting better after explant, it is

the implants.

Your decision is a big one, and I am sorry you are in the position of

having to make it. On the one hand, if you are not ill now, it is not

urgent that you remove the implants. But on the other hand, every day

that you have the implants brings you one day closer to possibly

having health issues related to them.

It's not true that if the implants leak nothing bad will happen. Some

women get very ill after a rupture. This is because if a colony of

malevolent organisms is growing in the implant, this will be released

into the body, along with all the chemicals that are degrading from

the implant shell. If the saline has remained sterile inside the

implant, it's true, it should not create any issues, but how would

anyone know if the saline is still sterile? The contents of a saline

implant are not static over time, because there is an exchange of body

fluids through the valve or the membrane itself.

The plastic surgeon who told you that implants last forever is wrong.

They will definitely need to be replaced at some point in time, and

10 years is considered the upper limit of time, though some women have

had implants longer than that with no ruptures.

The choice to remove is entirely one you have to make on your own.

It's a hard decision. It wouldn't hurt to call the doctor in

Minnesota, though we have no information on this person as of yet.

If you do seek removal, please make sure you get a proper removal,

using the en bloc technique, or at the least, have a total

capsulectomy, and make sure he understands the need for drains.

Please let us know how things turn out and what you decide. I know

you will make the decision that is best for you. The whole lawyer

thing make it more complicated, but don't let the money issue sway

your decision when it comes to your health. There is no pricetag that

can be put on health...it is priceless when you have it.

Take care and God bless,

Patty

--- In , OBrien <jerilynob58@...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Support Group,

> I have read many of the girls stories and I myself have saline implants.

> In June of 2003 I had a bilateral mastectomy.  At that time my

breast were removed and expanders were placed in my body.  In Jan. of

2004 the expander were removed and the placement of saline implants

were placed in my body.  I did not like the looks of my breasts as

time went on and found that the breast implants were missed label and

that is why my breasts looked terrible.  The implants were supposed to

be 300cc, but instead he placed one 300cc and one 550cc implant in

which it was under-filled and collapsed and made the other implant not

symmetrical.  The plastic surgeon was notified and then notified me. 

I saw another doctor in MN who told me they both needed to be removed

and new implants should be replaced.  The company who supplied the

implants, offered to pay me $12,000 as long as I signed off any legal

or complications to the next surgery.  I than got my own lawyer and

had the implants removed and new implants replaced on April of

> 2006. I am still under a lawyer's care.  I wish I had heard about

this group before hand because I would not have had implants placed in

my body.  I am not sick.  My new implants look fine.  I am just

concerned after reading these stories that maybe something bad might

happen.  The company that I got the implants in wants to settle for

a set some of money, but I still will have to pay for my medical

expenses, which came to about $38,000 and now will also have to pay my

lawyer.  My only concern is that in the lawsuit they also name my new

implants as part of the lawsuit.  I have no recourse if something goes

wrong with the new ones in my body now.  I talked to my plastic

surgeon who tells me everything will be ok because these implants are

safe and the operation was sterile so no mold can form in my body.  I

called another plastic surgeon who told me everything would be ok and

implants are safe, but that is their business, so I know that is

> why they would say that to me.  I asked about explanting and they

said I would have to have a complication with my implants before the

surgery would be covered by insurance.  Do most of the women who are

sick, get sick right away? Did their implants leak?  I am told because

they are filled with saline that if they do leak nothing bad will

happen.  I was also told they would last forever, but now know they

last about 10 years, and then should be replaced.  One of the plastic

surgeon's I talked to last week told me that.  I was also wondering

what clinic Dr. Lee in Edina. Mn is from.  Maybe I can call and talk

to someone in that office just to see how much it would cost to have

these implants removed.  What would you suggest?  I live in Wisconsin

and Edina is about 90 miles from me.

>  Remember I am not sick.  Do you think I should have them removed? 

Until my lawsuit is settled I can not do anything.  I do not know if I

should take the deal with the new implants named in the law suit, but

my lawyer said that is how it is done.  They want me to go away.  Let

me know what you think.  Thank you.  jerilynob58@...

>

>

>

> Re: Lea N Friends

>

>

> Lea...um...okay. ..can I blame the implants for my stupid

> question?? There are many who are " doctors " who are

> not " medical " doctors, aren't there-what a dummy. See what the

> implants have done to me!

>

> The law firm that took on Dow is located in MN so I called them today

> and asked if they could refer me to a surgeon for explant surgery and

> they gave me the name of a Dr. Lee in Edina, MN. I have an appt.

> Monday afternoon-no consult charge.

>

> I'm also going to schedule to see the doctor who put in my implants

> in since he is regarded as one of the best in MN and did do a good

> job-though he shouldn't have done this size apparently. He was a

> very nice man AND it turns out he is a good friend of my brothers and

> did implants in my niece (which I only learned today)-he also has 30

> years of experience. I want and NEED them out of me. I will make

> sure of course, that whomever does the explant meets all the

> qualifications that have been outlined in the info on this site.

>

> I read some more of your stories tonight and there just are not words

> for response ... the anger I feel over what I am reading-I want the

> world to know what is being done to women for BREASTS. The blame

> does not just go to the manufacturers, magazines, plastic surgeons,

> or men...but also to women. Women are also to blame for the

> competition we create amongst ourselves-and I am including myself;

> though I would like to claim otherwise. I'm sure I'm not writing any

> unique words of insight; words that haven't already been written. It

> is so hard to read your stories and then not have something

> worthwhile to write in response...but again, there aren't any words,

> and for that too, I am sorry. Please keep writing-you are saving

> lives by doing so. I have a feeling you saved mine...though it isn't

> over yet you have given me a chance that I wouldn't have had if you

> hadn't taken the time to write your stories and experiences.

>

> God Bless You, Lady Angels.

>

> Paddy

>