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Anne ~

I have sent you info privately.

I feel you need to see a cardiologist

for peace of mind. Please read it and

see if you think there is any relationship.

I had a heart attack and didnt go to the

doctor until 8 months later when I was

within about 15 minutes of death with

severe dialated cardiomyopathy....My

symptoms were nothing what I thought

would have been heart related.....

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Dearest Anne,

I am really unable to offer any insight into your condition, other

than to suggest that you start seeing naturopathic doctors who

understand toxicity better than MD's do.

I don't know if you have a lymph condition, a heart condition, an

endocrine system imbalance, or what it is...yours is a very

complicated impairment, but I believe the ROOT of it is toxicity.

If you've had test after test after test that has shown NADA, nothing,

no abnormality, then you are pretty much done with those doctors. They

can't seem to help you, except helping to drain your wallet of money.

Toxicity is a root of so many illnesses, but MD's only treat with

drugs, not with detoxification. There is a groundswell of opinion at

the grassroots level that we are completely on the wrong track by

trying to " fix " all these illnesses in our country through drugs.

Drugs are a bandaid. The real root of the problems we face lie in our

SAD diet (Standard American Diet, which is SAD indeed), and our

toxicity and sedentary lifestyles. Natural and holistic medicine is

seeing a revival in this country because people are becoming more and

more aware that we are killing ourselves by poisoning. It's time to

purge ourselves of all of this stuff.

Detoxification worked for me....I did not have to use doctors to get

better--only for testing to find my thyroid problem. I did my

detoxing at home or through clinics that offered treatments I believed

in. I think all of us should start with detoxing, get treatments as

needed for life-threatening conditions, but overall, stay away from

those people who do not understand the body from a natural-healing

point of view if they can't seem to find anything wrong. They are

barking up the wrong tree.

Anne, I'm so sorry and upset that you are feeling as sickly as you

are. You need to be cared for by people who know how to effectively

and gently get you detoxed and on the road to getting better. We've

had women on our group who have been deathly, deathly sick, and

they've been able to get explanted, and while they do not get better

right away, they are on the road. I've known women who have been

bedridden for years and are now working again, part time! You can get

there, and you must believe in your ability to do it!

How can we help you right now? Can you make an appointment to get

explanted?

Hugs,

Patty

>

> Please read what I've written below, of what I am experiencing.

> Whatever is happening to me feels very serious-it feels to me that if

> the doctors do not figure it out-it is going to kill me. Since the

> doctors have yet to figure it out I am hoping and praying someone

> else may have knowledge, or know of someone who might give some

> insight to my situation.

>

> The painful episodes began in 2000 and were in the area of my groin-

> at the top of my left leg. I felt as if something was cutting off or

> interfering with the blood supply in that area. I had a very tight

> sensation along the crease at the top of my left leg. This also

> created pain in my pubic region. I believe during one occasion they

> did an ultrasound and said there was increased blood flow in my left

> pelvic area.

>

> In later years it seemed it was more in my abdomen but again the same

> sensation of something being cut off. The word ischemic seemed to be

> a good description and it would seem like it involved my large

> intestine. I'm only guessing-these are the terms that seemed to fit

> best. Again the sensation was completely on the left side. The main

> sensation was there was interference in something. One time, when I

> went to the hospital, they did a cat scan and said I had an inflamed

> colon with wall-thickening. I've always wondered if it was a result

> of interference somewhere else with the blood supply.

>

> In more recent years it seems to be in my chest area and at times

> feels as if it " affects " my heart and lung system but not that they

> are the cause. If feels as if something is interfering with the

> blood flow (?) in the center of my left chest going up to my shoulder

> and then branches off towards my right arm and to my neck.

>

> The sensations have always affected my left side only. The term that

> I have said over and over when these episodes occur is that it feels

> like the flow of something is being cut-off/interfered with.

> Whatever is happening is so awful that it creates a very nauseous

> feeling within me. Sometimes it stops before the pain gets too

> severe so the nausea seems the more prominent sensation however it is

> not the significant event-I don't believe, but rather a reaction to

> something bigger that is occurring.

>

> Thank you for reading this.

>

> Anne

>

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anne,

i am a new member and haven't ever posted but wanted to let you know that i have the exact same issues. i have saline implants since 2004. every ache, pain, swelling, lymph issue i have is on the left side of my body. it is so strange. i am sick and tired of feeling 80 when i am 34. i am having my explant surgery before the end of the year, then i will go through a thourough detox program. i know in my gut that my implants are the source of my feeling ill. i won't recover until the toxic bags are out.

i will say a prayer for you.

>> Please read what I've written below, of what I am experiencing. > Whatever is happening to me feels very serious-it feels to me that if > the doctors do not figure it out-it is going to kill me. Since the > doctors have yet to figure it out I am hoping and praying someone > else may have knowledge, or know of someone who might give some > insight to my situation.> > The painful episodes began in 2000 and were in the area of my groin-> at the top of my left leg. I felt as if something was cutting off or > interfering with the blood supply in that area. I had a very tight > sensation along the

crease at the top of my left leg. This also > created pain in my pubic region. I believe during one occasion they > did an ultrasound and said there was increased blood flow in my left > pelvic area.> > In later years it seemed it was more in my abdomen but again the same > sensation of something being cut off. The word ischemic seemed to be > a good description and it would seem like it involved my large > intestine. I'm only guessing-these are the terms that seemed to fit > best. Again the sensation was completely on the left side. The main > sensation was there was interference in something. One time, when I > went to the hospital, they did a cat scan and said I had an inflamed > colon with wall-thickening. I've always wondered if it was a result > of interference somewhere else with the blood supply.

> > In more recent years it seems to be in my chest area and at times > feels as if it "affects" my heart and lung system but not that they > are the cause. If feels as if something is interfering with the > blood flow (?) in the center of my left chest going up to my shoulder > and then branches off towards my right arm and to my neck. > > The sensations have always affected my left side only. The term that > I have said over and over when these episodes occur is that it feels > like the flow of something is being cut-off/interfered with. > Whatever is happening is so awful that it creates a very nauseous > feeling within me. Sometimes it stops before the pain gets too > severe so the nausea seems the more prominent sensation however it is > not the significant event-I don't believe, but rather a reaction to > something

bigger that is occurring. > > Thank you for reading this.> > Anne>------------------------------------

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Hey ,

I'm glad you've joined us, though I am sorry to hear that you have

been so ill like Anne. It makes me so sad to know that you guys are

struggling so with these horrible symptoms.

, you mentioned that you are having your explant surgery

soon...have you discussed with your plastic surgeon the need for a

total capsulectomy? Have you read any of our posts about the

importance of a PROPER explant?

Please make sure your doctor will do the explant either en bloc or

with a total capsulectomy....either way, you need to make sure that

the doctor is going to remove that scar tissue. This is VITALLY

important to your healing. A retained scar capsule can keep your body

unhealthy and sick, and most doctors do not take care to remove this

scar tissue. They either think it is too much work to remove it, or

they mistakenly believe that it will help add volume to the breast

without risk. They take your health into their hands by not removing

it....and you will be the one who suffers.

Who is doing your explant? There are a few doctors in the USA who do

them right...and we are always looking for more doctors to add to our

list. I'll be glad to add yours if they are not already listed, and

they do explants correctly....let us know!

Take care,

Patty

> >

> > Please read what I've written below, of what I am experiencing. 

> > Whatever is happening to me feels very serious-it feels to me that if

> > the doctors do not figure it out-it is going to kill me. Since the

> > doctors have yet to figure it out I am hoping and praying someone

> > else may have knowledge, or know of someone who might give some

> > insight to my situation.

> >

> > The painful episodes began in 2000 and were in the area of my groin-

> > at the top of my left leg.  I felt as if something was cutting off or

> > interfering with the blood supply in that area.  I had a very tight

> > sensation along the crease at the top of my left leg.  This also

> > created pain in my pubic region.  I believe during one occasion they

> > did an ultrasound and said there was increased blood flow in my left

> > pelvic area.

> >

> > In later years it seemed it was more in my abdomen but again the same

> > sensation of something being cut off.  The word ischemic seemed to be

> > a good description and it would seem like it involved my large

> > intestine.  I'm only guessing-these are the terms that seemed to fit

> > best.  Again the sensation was completely on the left side.  The main

> > sensation was there was interference in something.  One time, when I

> > went to the hospital, they did a cat scan and said I had an inflamed

> > colon with wall-thickening.  I've always wondered if it was a result

> > of interference somewhere else with the blood supply. 

> >

> > In more recent years it seems to be in my chest area and at times

> > feels as if it " affects " my heart and lung system but not that they

> > are the cause.  If feels as if something is interfering with the

> > blood flow (?) in the center of my left chest going up to my shoulder

> > and then branches off towards my right arm and to my neck. 

> >

> > The sensations have always affected my left side only.  The term that

> > I have said over and over when these episodes occur is that it feels

> > like the flow of something is being cut-off/interfered with. 

> > Whatever is happening is so awful that it creates a very nauseous

> > feeling within me.  Sometimes it stops before the pain gets too

> > severe so the nausea seems the more prominent sensation however it is

> > not the significant event-I don't believe, but rather a reaction to

> > something bigger that is occurring.

> >

> > Thank you for reading this.

> >

> > Anne

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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my consult is next wednesday, but i have heard wonderful things about dr. steven warnock. he is in draper, utah. he does perform a total capsulectomy and he comes highly recommended. i am excited about him and have a good feeling. he does a lot of reconstructive work, so i am hopeful that he will do a great job. i have a ton of questions for him and will really follow my instincts. i will keep in touch about him and the surgery.

thank you so much for your support. you are wonderful.

From: glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:04:59 PMSubject: Re: Please read-I need helpHey ,I'm glad you've joined us, though I am sorry to hear that you havebeen so ill like Anne. It makes me so sad to know that you guys arestruggling so with these horrible symptoms., you mentioned that you are having your explant surgerysoon...have you discussed with your plastic surgeon the need for atotal capsulectomy? Have you read any of our posts about theimportance of a PROPER explant?Please make sure your doctor will do the explant either en bloc orwith a total capsulectomy....either way, you

need to make sure thatthe doctor is going to remove that scar tissue. This is VITALLYimportant to your healing. A retained scar capsule can keep your bodyunhealthy and sick, and most doctors do not take care to remove thisscar tissue. They either think it is too much work to remove it, orthey mistakenly believe that it will help add volume to the breastwithout risk. They take your health into their hands by not removingit....and you will be the one who suffers.Who is doing your explant? There are a few doctors in the USA who dothem right...and we are always looking for more doctors to add to ourlist. I'll be glad to add yours if they are not already listed, andthey do explants correctly....let us know!Take care,Patty>

>> > Please read what I've written below, of what I am experiencing. > > Whatever is happening to me feels very serious-it feels to me that if > > the doctors do not figure it out-it is going to kill me. Since the > > doctors have yet to figure it out I am hoping and praying someone > > else may have knowledge, or know of someone who might give some > > insight to my situation.> > > > The painful episodes began in 2000 and were in the area of my groin-> > at the top of my left leg. I felt as if something was cutting off or > > interfering with the blood supply in that area. I had a very tight > > sensation along the crease at the top of my left leg. This also > > created pain in my pubic region. I believe during one occasion they > > did an ultrasound and said there was increased blood flow in

my left > > pelvic area.> > > > In later years it seemed it was more in my abdomen but again the same > > sensation of something being cut off. The word ischemic seemed to be > > a good description and it would seem like it involved my large > > intestine. I'm only guessing-these are the terms that seemed to fit > > best. Again the sensation was completely on the left side. The main > > sensation was there was interference in something. One time, when I > > went to the hospital, they did a cat scan and said I had an inflamed > > colon with wall-thickening. I've always wondered if it was a result > > of interference somewhere else with the blood supply. > > > > In more recent years it seems to be in my chest area and at times > > feels as if it "affects" my heart and lung

system but not that they > > are the cause. If feels as if something is interfering with the > > blood flow (?) in the center of my left chest going up to my shoulder > > and then branches off towards my right arm and to my neck. > > > > The sensations have always affected my left side only. The term that > > I have said over and over when these episodes occur is that it feels > > like the flow of something is being cut-off/interfered with. > > Whatever is happening is so awful that it creates a very nauseous > > feeling within me. Sometimes it stops before the pain gets too > > severe so the nausea seems the more prominent sensation however it is > > not the significant event-I don't believe, but rather a reaction to > > something bigger that is occurring. > > > > Thank you for reading

this.> > > > Anne> >> > > > ------------------------------------> >

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,

I've posted some suggestions for questions to ask.

I haven't heard of this doctor, so I'll be waiting to hear how things

went after your appt next Wednesday! I'd love to be able to add a

very good Utah doctor to our list, as we have no one there now.

I went to a doctor that was highly recommended for my implant, but

when it came to explant, he was not the one, that's for sure. Some

doctors have great reputations, but for explant they spout the same

old tired lines and you will have to be equipped beforehand to know

what you need to look for. Anne found out that the recommended doctor

was not going to do a proper explant and had actually told her some

false information...so be careful.

We're here to help....just want to see you get better, dear one.

Take care and God bless,

Patty

> > >

> > > Please read what I've written below, of what I am experiencing. 

> > > Whatever is happening to me feels very serious-it feels to me

that if

> > > the doctors do not figure it out-it is going to kill me. Since the

> > > doctors have yet to figure it out I am hoping and praying someone

> > > else may have knowledge, or know of someone who might give some

> > > insight to my situation.

> > >

> > > The painful episodes began in 2000 and were in the area of my groin-

> > > at the top of my left leg.  I felt as if something was cutting

off or

> > > interfering with the blood supply in that area.  I had a very tight

> > > sensation along the crease at the top of my left leg.  This also

> > > created pain in my pubic region.  I believe during one occasion

they

> > > did an ultrasound and said there was increased blood flow in my

left

> > > pelvic area.

> > >

> > > In later years it seemed it was more in my abdomen but again the

same

> > > sensation of something being cut off.  The word ischemic seemed

to be

> > > a good description and it would seem like it involved my large

> > > intestine.  I'm only guessing-these are the terms that seemed to

fit

> > > best.  Again the sensation was completely on the left side.  The

main

> > > sensation was there was interference in something.  One time,

when I

> > > went to the hospital, they did a cat scan and said I had an

inflamed

> > > colon with wall-thickening.  I've always wondered if it was a

result

> > > of interference somewhere else with the blood supply. 

> > >

> > > In more recent years it seems to be in my chest area and at times

> > > feels as if it " affects " my heart and lung system but not that they

> > > are the cause.  If feels as if something is interfering with the

> > > blood flow (?) in the center of my left chest going up to my

shoulder

> > > and then branches off towards my right arm and to my neck. 

> > >

> > > The sensations have always affected my left side only.  The term

that

> > > I have said over and over when these episodes occur is that it

feels

> > > like the flow of something is being cut-off/interfered with. 

> > > Whatever is happening is so awful that it creates a very nauseous

> > > feeling within me.  Sometimes it stops before the pain gets too

> > > severe so the nausea seems the more prominent sensation however

it is

> > > not the significant event-I don't believe, but rather a reaction to

> > > something bigger that is occurring.

> > >

> > > Thank you for reading this.

> > >

> > > Anne

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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