Hello from a newbie

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Ah, yes, I remember when I got that letter from the Red Cross three years

ago. I had given blood for my knee surgery, and the tests they ran on it

showed that I had tested positive for Hep C. They usually run two tests,

the RIBA and ELISA (don't know what that stands for). But, they were both

positive. Also my liver enzymes were over 200.

We think that I got the Hep C from a blood transfusion 20 years ago, since I

received several pints of blood and blood platelets. I've had arthroscopic

surgery on my knee in 1986, too. I've heard people say they got their Hep C

from that. Some have gotten it from their dentist, if he wasn't using

protective gloves or sterilizing everything property. Check with the Red

Cross to see if your other blood donations were tested for Hep C and what

the results were. It could give you an idea of when you got it.

Have you family doctor run a liver enzyme test and a Hep C test. It should

give you more information. If they show that you're still positive, you

might think of seeing a specialist (gastroenterologist or hepatologist).

Good luck. There's tons of information on the internet, if you do a search

on Hepatitis C. There are some great people on this list. I've learned a

lot here. Welcome, and hope you find the answers you need.

Marie

[Guest guest]

,

You need to be tested further before they can say it is definite. Do you

have any other illnesses like rheumatoid arthritis, lupus , etc many things

can cause false positives so don't panic yet. You need to have a RIBA drawn

next. Then when that result comes back you can go from there. They still

can't say 100% from the RIBA either so a PCR would be drawn after that. Keep

in touch and let me know how you make out. Do you have any risks at your job?

I am a nurse got stuck at work and thats how they think I got it. Just

diagnosed about 8 weeks ago. Good Luck DC

[Guest guest]

hi lisa,

welcome. i read the info already given you on the list. totally agree about

further testing.

some other risk factors: do you have pierced ears? any tatoos?

get more test first. before you try to determine how you got it, you need to

know if you have it!

in peace,

talyne

[Guest guest]

, welcome to the twilight zone. You can get it from dental work,

any needle, gynecological or any procedure that uses instruments in

your body if they are not properly sterilized. Arlene

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the Group Liz,

I can sympathize with you and what you have been through. I went

undiagnosed for years not as many as you. Although, your were

misdiagnosed. I was about 11 when my psoriasis began first in my

scalp then in my ears then eventually to other places but the only

place it really got extreme was in my scalp and ears and behind my

ears. I injured my right ankle around 15-16 and it all went down

hill from there. I actually found out later that I ruptured the

tendon, it actually ripped completely in half. We didn't find that

part out until the surgery. Anyway, this is when the arthritis part

of the disease kicked into high force. I was referred to see a

rheumy by my ortho and family care docs, after about 4-5 years with

no diagnosis, I pretty much fired him. My pharmacist referred me to

another rheumy who she said all her patients love her. On the very

first visit she pretty much had the Dx of PA. She said i'm almost

positive this is what you have but were going to do lab work to make

sure it is conclusive. I have been with every since then. I was 21

then and I am now 27. I have been on Sulfasalazine was on that drug

different doses nearly five years in combo with NSAID's. When I

started Enbrel I was finally able to stop it because for once in my

life my labs had finally reached what my doctor considered to be

pretty " normal lab results " . That was a miracle in itself. I've been

fighting a lot of infections lately so I have not been doing my

Enbrel injections as much. Really one in the last three months so my

labs have not been that great and I of course have had a lot more

pain but when your sick you can't take these drugs so life goes on.

lol! That's the short version of my story. I hope you find all the

info you need here. Good luck!

Keli

>

> hi I am liz, age 53, married to jeff and living in Davenport, IA.

I

> have no children, having miscarried my only pregnancy just before

i

> was dxed. we have two dogs and four kitties though and they are

> wonderful children.

>

> For the past 21 years I have been dxed with reiter's syndrome and

> the last 5 or more with sjogren's. At one point in time about 10

> years ago a dr put on chronic fatigue as part of my exam to get

SSI.

>

> This past week i met with a new dr.. we have just moved to iowa

> after 35 years of living in Nebraska. This dr was very thorough

and

> questioned me about some aspects of my symptoms that he wondered

> about. He looked at my fingernails and showed me aand the med

> student who was following him that day that there are places where

> the nails are pitted. he asked if i had had what was thought to

be

> dandruff and i said that i have. also psoriasis along the hair

> line. he said that he doesn't believe I have reiter's because the

> eye symptoms i have don't fit that genre'.. he added that

treatment

> is similar though so that was good.

>

> my birth mother (i am adopted) had rheumatoid arthritis, reiter's,

> sjogren's, cfs, and psoriatic...so this is not suprising. bhough a

> little unsettling as i have been told all these years that i have

> reiter's and now i feel as if i had an identity i was sure of that

> is gone.

>

> I have been on methotrexate for 10 years or so and other drugs

along

> the way. now am on alleve as mobic caused some side effects such

as

> ankle swelling. I had been on remicade for 5 years or so but in

the

> midst of moving got off the track with it and so have not been on

it

> for a year. they are going to start me over on it if they can get

it

> through medicaid.

>

> i hope to gain some knowledge and cameraderie with this group.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome from another who has a right & left TSR. Along with bi-

lateral THR.

For me my first TSR, the left, it took almost a year to get back

to " normal " . But with the right it was 3 months. My left was " fozen "

and it took alot of PT to get it moving. As I was rehabing the left I

also did the right. That is why recovery was so easy. With the left I

was in 2 nights and the right 1. With the left I had a drain and an

emoblizier. With the right no drains and a sling. With the left I did

not use it for 2 weeks. With the right I was using it the next day.

With both I could not move my arm, with the elbow at my side and bent,

outward. Still have trouble doing that. I had the surgeries in 2000

and 2001. Hips in 1997 and 1998 (revised in 2004).

Now I have better than average range of motion in both. I had great

strength in both. But since the right was so good, I managed to injure

my rotator cuff. Now it is not very strong. I can manage lifting

about 3 pounds max straight out in front of me. As long as I keep my

arms close to my body while lifting I am great. I just had my yearly 4

joint check-up and everything is fine.

Sorry this is so long and I am sure I have spelled words wrong and made

up new ones too. There are not may TSR people around and I just get

happy to see one.

Good luck.

Sue

>

> Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right

> shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and I

> think I'm doing pretty well. I am very interested in hearing other's

> experiences, especially anything about how to speed ones recovery,

any

> tips as to what to do and what to avoid, signals to be on the lookout

> for, etc.

>

> Looking forward to getting to know you all a little better,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WElcome, . My name is Pat . . . I've had a hip replacement, two total

hip revisions, and one where the cup was revised . . . all on the same side.

I'm looking at a replacement on the other side now, but I'm trying to put it

off as long as possible as I am only 56 (not to mention I have to build up

some sick time for the time I'll be off work).

Pat

> Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right

> shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and I

> think I'm doing pretty well.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,Welcome to this group a lot of nice people and helpful :-)I had my right knee and right Hip replace :-)I have Arthritis in my right shoulder and my regular Dr said not to get it replace I wish he would have told me not to get my Hip replace oh well everyone is different and I wish you a speedy recovery and have a nice day:-) Love Susie Conklin <conklin.susan@...> wrote: Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and I think I'm doing pretty well. I am very interested in hearing other's experiences, especially anything about how to speed ones recovery, any tips as to what to do and what to avoid, signals to be on the lookout for, etc. Looking forward to getting to know you all a little better,

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Thanks, it is reassuring to know others are in the same boat and to

hear your are doing so well. My shoulder is one week old today, I get

my staples out next Monday and I think pt instructions as well. I had

a drain that came out on the 2nd day and a sling I'm only supposed to

wear when out in public.

So what are the chances that there are two of us here with shoulder

replacements and the same name? lol!

On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Sue wrote:

>

>

> Welcome from another who has a right & left TSR. Along with bi-

> lateral THR.

>

> For me my first TSR, the left, it took almost a year to get back

> to " normal " . But with the right it was 3 months. My left was " fozen "

> and it took alot of PT to get it moving. As I was rehabing the left I

> also did the right. That is why recovery was so easy. With the left I

> was in 2 nights and the right 1. With the left I had a drain and an

> emoblizier. With the right no drains and a sling. With the left I did

> not use it for 2 weeks. With the right I was using it the next day.

> With both I could not move my arm, with the elbow at my side and bent,

> outward. Still have trouble doing that. I had the surgeries in 2000

> and 2001. Hips in 1997 and 1998 (revised in 2004).

>

> Now I have better than average range of motion in both. I had great

> strength in both. But since the right was so good, I managed to injure

> my rotator cuff. Now it is not very strong. I can manage lifting

> about 3 pounds max straight out in front of me. As long as I keep my

> arms close to my body while lifting I am great. I just had my yearly 4

> joint check-up and everything is fine.

>

> Sorry this is so long and I am sure I have spelled words wrong and made

> up new ones too. There are not may TSR people around and I just get

> happy to see one.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Sue

>

>

>>

>> Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right

>> shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and I

>> think I'm doing pretty well. I am very interested in hearing other's

>> experiences, especially anything about how to speed ones recovery,

> any

>> tips as to what to do and what to avoid, signals to be on the lookout

>> for, etc.

>>

>> Looking forward to getting to know you all a little better,

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now if you are from Pennsylvania, then it will really be strange!

I had stitches. Only had staples for the first hip. It is a

teaching hospital so I guess they practiced their " sewing " on me!

Sue

> >>

> >> Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right

> >> shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and

I

> >> think I'm doing pretty well. I am very interested in hearing

other's

> >> experiences, especially anything about how to speed ones

recovery,

> > any

> >> tips as to what to do and what to avoid, signals to be on the

lookout

> >> for, etc.

> >>

> >> Looking forward to getting to know you all a little better,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, I'm , and new to the group. Last Friday I had my right

> shoulder replaced (TRSR? don't know the shortcuts here yet!) and I

> think I'm doing pretty well. I am very interested in hearing other's

> experiences, especially anything about how to speed ones recovery,

any

> tips as to what to do and what to avoid, signals to be on the lookout

> for, etc.

>

> Looking forward to getting to know you all a little better,

>

>

>Hi ,I'm also new to the group-and scanning to look for someone

who has info regarding shoulder replacement. I'm in a remote area of

Alaska (built my log cabin)anyway after rotator cuff surgery I was

informed that I need shoulder replacement and this past summer things

in there really began to hurt. I can't find anyone who has had the

procedure done (finally you) would appreciate if you could keep me

informed. My email is slanabanjo@.... If I don't respond quickly

winters coming quickly and phones/power is unreliable. thanks, Bob

[Guest guest]

hi Ellen,

did the doctor check you for Dermatomyositis? that is a rash that looks

v-shaped around your neck. It's just another rheumatoid type arthritis. I have

it, not much on the chest but on the face and on scalp.

Eva

antiquityhill <AntiquityHill@...> wrote:

Hello all.

Looking for a little advice:

I've been a member for a while, but not written. I read some, but to

be honest and overwhelmed at present with symptoms, so brain fog keeps

me away at times.

Rheumy thinks Lupus or Sjogren's, but leaning toward Lupus.

ANA always positive, Profile shows some antibodies in all tests, but

miniscule. Whatever the " A " test is for Lupus/Sjogren's, I'm

positive, but the " B " test says negative.

25 yrs ago (dark ages, not many tests etc) I got the Lupus Dx. Every

time I felt bad they wanted to give steroids until I quit taking them.

About 10 yrs ago I was told no Lupus. I dont' know what tests Dx'd

me and un-Dx'd me.

I quit telling docs but felt horrible and figured it must be something

else.

Got Graves (not antibody tested tho) and had an ablation done (huge

mistake). Mentioned Lupus to another doc about 5 yrs ago. ANA

positive again. He refers to a Rheumy. I got too sick to drive 3 hrs

to get there. I didn't go.

Finally mentioned Lupus to my endo and he does another ANA- positive.

Profile says negative. He says no Celiac no Lupus. Last December I

begged for and finally got vitamin tests and found I was deficient in

many B's. Began supplementing. Felt better for a while, then

headaches came back, but not so bad as before.

I got another rash, but this one pretty bad in a v-shape on my chest,

so asked endo since it wouldn't go away. It came when I went to a

tanning bed to get ready for a dream trip. (I know, I know, not the

best thing I could have done, but if no lupus, I thought a couple

times gently wouldn't hurt) Another ANA- positive. Profile shows this

" A " as positive.

Sent on to Rheumy, still with rash (since March) which flares with any

sunlight, which I have been ignoring. He thinks it's not possible to

have Lupus all this time and not be on Lupus meds. Interrupts, says

I've been perfectly healthy all this time, so likely it's false.

Doesn't look at my darned info I spent all that time writing up for

him. duh.

Retest is same as initial test. Rheumy still hasn't called me, but

endo gave me the results.

I have several things going on- chronic and debilitating intractable

migraine, cluster/autonomic cephalgias. Neuro is thinking possible

encephalopathy related to thyroid, but unsure. (I dont' think he

remembers the past positive ANA stuff). Thyroid imbalance,

osteoporosis (slowly healing), vitamin deficiencies, chronic diarrhea

(6-8 yrs), Dystonia (a movement disorder causing spasms throughout my

body that resemble epilepsy), other minor stuff. I am dry, but not as

dry as others I have read. It was chalked up to my radiation, then to

vitamin deficiencies. It did improve with supplements to a degree.

The joint pain is very bad. The headaches are bad enough my hubby

fears I will someday choose to " find another way out " IYKWIM. He

doesn't understand how I can live the way things are now. I am mostly

a positive person, but am experiencing some pretty wild swings since

getting the vitamins treated. This is disturbing, but I'm afraid to

mention to Neuro because I am not depressed and don't want any

anti-depressants to cover up something that needs to be healed.

The head pain got so bad I was hired as a web researcher for Migraine.

You can find info about me (if interested)

http://community.wegohealth.com/profile/EllenSchnakenberg

When Rheumy calls I want to be prepared. When in last he neither

listened nor asked much. Maybe because he didn't know anything and

wanted to test from the start? (guessing and trying to stay positive).

He mentioned Plaquenil. My mom is on this and it has stopped her

muscle spasms and made her feel much better. (she is not Dx'd-- her

ANA's are neg. This is for Sarcoidosis) If it would get rid of the

spasms, you'd be hard-pressed to find a way to keep me off it, despite

my feelings it is again not addressing the issue at hand.

I am tempted to try the plaquenil because I need to be out of pain.

This is big pain, not the little wimpy stuff like broken bones or

child birth. I am able to take little if any pain killers. Indocin

is anti-inflammatory (as are the B12 shots) and help, but it wears off

and I'm back where I started. Steroids are great, but I can't take

them, nor do I want to.

Anybody with any advice? I would truly love to hear it.

Thanks all

Ellen in Missouri

[Guest guest]

Which test is that?

Ellen

>

> hi Ellen,

> did the doctor check you for Dermatomyositis? that is a rash that

looks v-shaped around your neck. It's just another rheumatoid type

arthritis. I have it, not much on the chest but on the face and on scalp.

>

> Eva

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ellen:

I THINK that you could have been ruled out for SLE (lupus) due to a negative HLA

DR2/DR3 result.  Sjogren's can result in ANA positive and so can AS (which is

USUALLY an HLA B27 disease, so this test could be run, but you don't seem to

have typical symptoms of AS:  Sciatica, morning stiffness, extreme lumbago,

bursitis, etc).

Still, I have run across similar symptoms while doing LGS research and it is

possible that you have some condition relative to candidiasis, then reacting to

one or more of the enterobacteriaceae (intestinal bacteria) that cause various

arthritides.

I would consider whether your condition is cyclic (flares and then subsides) and

the periodicity--1week on 2 weeks off, etc.

See whether you are losing bone mass/loss in height.

And whether any foods affect how you feel--worse after eating fried foods?  Keep

a diary.

There is plenty that can be done, but it is one thing to properly diagnose and

quite another to decide the best way to treat.  When going the natural route, I

just go ahead and treat, since it is usually cheaper than getting all that

testing.  The book by Zampieron, et al (Arthritis:  An Alternative Medicine

Definitive Guide), has many good suggestions and can be a starting point.

Good luck with it and I really hope that you find relief soon,

From: antiquityhill <AntiquityHill@...>

Subject: rheumatic Hello from a Newbie

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 9:57 AM

Hello all.

Looking for a little advice:

I've been a member for a while, but not written. I read some, but to

be honest and overwhelmed at present with symptoms, so brain fog keeps

me away at times.

Rheumy thinks Lupus or Sjogren's, but leaning toward Lupus.

ANA always positive, Profile shows some antibodies in all tests, but

miniscule. Whatever the " A " test is for Lupus/Sjogren' s, I'm

positive, but the " B " test says negative.

25 yrs ago (dark ages, not many tests etc) I got the Lupus Dx. Every

time I felt bad they wanted to give steroids until I quit taking them.

About 10 yrs ago I was told no Lupus. I dont' know what tests Dx'd

me and un-Dx'd me.

I quit telling docs but felt horrible and figured it must be something

else.

Got Graves (not antibody tested tho) and had an ablation done (huge

mistake). Mentioned Lupus to another doc about 5 yrs ago. ANA

positive again. He refers to a Rheumy. I got too sick to drive 3 hrs

to get there. I didn't go.

Finally mentioned Lupus to my endo and he does another ANA- positive.

Profile says negative. He says no Celiac no Lupus. Last December I

begged for and finally got vitamin tests and found I was deficient in

many B's. Began supplementing. Felt better for a while, then

headaches came back, but not so bad as before.

I got another rash, but this one pretty bad in a v-shape on my chest,

so asked endo since it wouldn't go away. It came when I went to a

tanning bed to get ready for a dream trip. (I know, I know, not the

best thing I could have done, but if no lupus, I thought a couple

times gently wouldn't hurt) Another ANA- positive. Profile shows this

" A " as positive.

Sent on to Rheumy, still with rash (since March) which flares with any

sunlight, which I have been ignoring. He thinks it's not possible to

have Lupus all this time and not be on Lupus meds. Interrupts, says

I've been perfectly healthy all this time, so likely it's false.

Doesn't look at my darned info I spent all that time writing up for

him. duh.

Retest is same as initial test. Rheumy still hasn't called me, but

endo gave me the results.

I have several things going on- chronic and debilitating intractable

migraine, cluster/autonomic cephalgias. Neuro is thinking possible

encephalopathy related to thyroid, but unsure. (I dont' think he

remembers the past positive ANA stuff). Thyroid imbalance,

osteoporosis (slowly healing), vitamin deficiencies, chronic diarrhea

(6-8 yrs), Dystonia (a movement disorder causing spasms throughout my

body that resemble epilepsy), other minor stuff. I am dry, but not as

dry as others I have read. It was chalked up to my radiation, then to

vitamin deficiencies. It did improve with supplements to a degree.

The joint pain is very bad. The headaches are bad enough my hubby

fears I will someday choose to " find another way out " IYKWIM. He

doesn't understand how I can live the way things are now. I am mostly

a positive person, but am experiencing some pretty wild swings since

getting the vitamins treated. This is disturbing, but I'm afraid to

mention to Neuro because I am not depressed and don't want any

anti-depressants to cover up something that needs to be healed.

The head pain got so bad I was hired as a web researcher for Migraine.

You can find info about me (if interested)

http://community. wegohealth. com/profile/ EllenSchnakenber g

When Rheumy calls I want to be prepared. When in last he neither

listened nor asked much. Maybe because he didn't know anything and

wanted to test from the start? (guessing and trying to stay positive).

He mentioned Plaquenil. My mom is on this and it has stopped her

muscle spasms and made her feel much better. (she is not Dx'd-- her

ANA's are neg. This is for Sarcoidosis) If it would get rid of the

spasms, you'd be hard-pressed to find a way to keep me off it, despite

my feelings it is again not addressing the issue at hand.

I am tempted to try the plaquenil because I need to be out of pain.

This is big pain, not the little wimpy stuff like broken bones or

child birth. I am able to take little if any pain killers. Indocin

is anti-inflammatory (as are the B12 shots) and help, but it wears off

and I'm back where I started. Steroids are great, but I can't take

them, nor do I want to.

Anybody with any advice? I would truly love to hear it.

Thanks all

Ellen in Missouri

[Guest guest]

Ah, do NOT do a mammogram ! !

especially on 29 year old implants......

dont wanna rupture them or the scar tissue

around them and have all the toxins explode

into your body......

I will write more in a bit.......but

NO MAMMO ~ ~ ~

Hugs and Prayers ~

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[Guest guest]

Crawling out of shock, trying to shake bitterness in being part of this human experiment, I join you all in my new journey as I prepare & gain knowledge to properly rid of my 29 year old silicone implants and hopefully, feel alive and at peace again.

I find tens of thousands of you "out there". Man, did that add to my emotions.A holocaust of suffering. Deceit at it finest. Anger set in. I had to wait a week just to introduce myself! I feel much sadness for every woman that is or has experienced this hell. I feel the pain. I am so very sorry. (But) You are all blessings. Inspiring me and others, providing information and guidance. Thank you, all ... you sweet beautiful women. I am grateful to your sharing & strength.

I'm just now getting into all the links and trying to review all the information, and it seems like forever. Dial-up, & my painful fingers do not play well together.

I'm holistic. Am working on going to a clinic in a week to ask for tests and am looking for a list of recommend tests somewhere? That would be terrific! I also scheduled a mammogram.

Finding a knowledgeable surgeon, compassionate & understanding would be nice! I live between Indianapolis (IN) & Dayton (OH), should anyone have reference and I am cruising your links as well.

I am assuming that the surgery will be extensive & messy, since I have lived with silicone adhered to my bones. I search for the all explant/removal procedures to ask for.

I also search for names of procedures that rids the loose skin after explant (tidy up the mess / flatten me up) and away I go.

I have gained much excitement in the prospect of a healthy life to reveal itself! With much appreciation, Nance

[Guest guest]

When you have the explant, be sure you include

several things.....just print this out and put in your

purse so you will have it handy....

You want:

1. enbloc proceedure where they cut around

the scar capsule your body formed around the implant.

so you can remove it in one swoop, to keep everything

intact and from spilling toxins into your chest cavity.

ALL implants degrade as well as leak, see photo below....

2. use of drain tubes.

3. Everything sent to the lab to have it analyzed

4. cultures and sensitivities of anything that looks suspicious of

bacterial or fungal infection

5. Photos of the implants and scar capsules once

removed. Photos of any lymph nodes or masses

removed.

6. Copies of the op report, all pathology reports

or culture and sensitivity reports for your permanent

record at home.

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[Guest guest]

My Dear Nance:

I am so sorry that you still have your implants in your body. Honey, please do not do anything, just go for the proper explant. After 29 years your breast implants are probably ruptured.

I have been where you are, and the plastic surgeon did a mammogram just before he removed the implants. They looked fine, and he did not want to remove them. He was given orders to remove them, and when he opened me up the silicone ran everywhere. This just annoyed him because he got his hands covered in silicone. We found our later that the implants had been ruptured for many years. This so-called plastic surgeon had left all of the garbage in my body. He refused to remove the capsules, because he told us that I could bleed to death. He no longer is allowed to practise, because so many women were suing him.

Stay close to this wonderful group of women...love you....Lea

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Re: Hello from a newbie

Thank you, all!Hadn't given that any thought (mamo squish factor). I was concernedabout a painful lump I've watched for a year. Suspose I can ask whoeverworks on me to take it out & send in for a check. Hummm...this is allso complicated.

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

I'm working towards an AAS in Business Management. I would like to

graduate in May, but I've got 3 classes left and I have to take them

at night, so I may not end up finishing until January of 2010.

We'll see what happens. I officially started working towards this

degree in June of 2005.

Sis

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Crawling out of shock, trying to shake bitterness in being

> > part of

> > > > this

> > > > > human experiment, I join you all in my new journey as I

> > prepare &

> > > > gain

> > > > > knowledge to properly rid of my 29 year old silicone

implants

> > and

> > > > > hopefully, feel alive and at peace again.

> > > > >

> > > > > I find tens of thousands of you " out there " . Man, did

that

> > add

> > > > > to my emotions.A holocaust of suffering. Deceit at it

> > finest.

> > > > Anger

> > > > > set in. I had to wait a week just to introduce myself! I

> > feel

> > > > much

> > > > > sadness for every woman that is or has experienced this

hell.

> > I

> > > > feel

> > > > > the pain. I am so very sorry. (But) You are all

blessings.

> > > > Inspiring

> > > > > me and others, providing information and guidance. Thank

> > you,

> > > > all ...

> > > > > you sweet beautiful women. I am grateful to your sharing

&

> > > > strength.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm just now getting into all the links and trying to

review

> > all

> > > > the

> > > > > information, and it seems like forever. Dial-up, &

my

> > > > painful

> > > > > fingers do not play well together.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm holistic. Am working on going to a clinic in a week

to

> > ask for

> > > > > tests and am looking for a list of recommend tests

somewhere?

> > That

> > > > > would be terrific! I also scheduled a mammogram.

> > > > >

> > > > > Finding a knowledgeable surgeon, compassionate &

understanding

> > > > would be

> > > > > nice! I live between Indianapolis (IN) & Dayton (OH),

should

> > > > anyone

> > > > > have reference and I am cruising your links as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am assuming that the surgery will be extensive & messy,

> > since I

> > > > have

> > > > > lived with silicone adhered to my bones. I search for

the

> > all

> > > > > explant/removal procedures to ask for.

> > > > >

> > > > > I also search for names of procedures that rids the loose

> > skin

> > > > after

> > > > > explant (tidy up the mess / flatten me up) and away I go.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have gained much excitement in the prospect of a healthy

> > life to

> > > > > reveal itself!

> > > > > With much appreciation,

> > > > > Nance

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhh, Sis, I feel dumb. What is an AAS? (I'm guessing Associate of

Applied Science? Maybe I'm wrong.)

I saw your previous post about the Project Manager...sounds like a

great job! We have two project managers in our Bible study

group...one is an independent contractor and is currently working with

the new Wynn's Encore high-rise, and the other works on huge kitchen

projects for the casinos. Good paying jobs to say the least!

I'm so glad you are successful in your goals....that's what we love to

see happening here when our girls are healing.

Hugs,

Patty

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Crawling out of shock, trying to shake bitterness in being

> > > part of

> > > > > this

> > > > > > human experiment, I join you all in my new journey as I

> > > prepare &

> > > > > gain

> > > > > > knowledge to properly rid of my 29 year old silicone

> implants

> > > and

> > > > > > hopefully, feel alive and at peace again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I find tens of thousands of you " out there " . Man, did

> that

> > > add

> > > > > > to my emotions.A holocaust of suffering. Deceit at it

> > > finest.

> > > > > Anger

> > > > > > set in. I had to wait a week just to introduce myself! I

> > > feel

> > > > > much

> > > > > > sadness for every woman that is or has experienced this

> hell.

> > > I

> > > > > feel

> > > > > > the pain. I am so very sorry. (But) You are all

> blessings.

> > > > > Inspiring

> > > > > > me and others, providing information and guidance. Thank

> > > you,

> > > > > all ...

> > > > > > you sweet beautiful women. I am grateful to your sharing

> &

> > > > > strength.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm just now getting into all the links and trying to

> review

> > > all

> > > > > the

> > > > > > information, and it seems like forever. Dial-up, &

> my

> > > > > painful

> > > > > > fingers do not play well together.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm holistic. Am working on going to a clinic in a week

> to

> > > ask for

> > > > > > tests and am looking for a list of recommend tests

> somewhere?

> > > That

> > > > > > would be terrific! I also scheduled a mammogram.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Finding a knowledgeable surgeon, compassionate &

> understanding

> > > > > would be

> > > > > > nice! I live between Indianapolis (IN) & Dayton (OH),

> should

> > > > > anyone

> > > > > > have reference and I am cruising your links as well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am assuming that the surgery will be extensive & messy,

> > > since I

> > > > > have

> > > > > > lived with silicone adhered to my bones. I search for

> the

> > > all

> > > > > > explant/removal procedures to ask for.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I also search for names of procedures that rids the loose

> > > skin

> > > > > after

> > > > > > explant (tidy up the mess / flatten me up) and away I go.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have gained much excitement in the prospect of a healthy

> > > life to

> > > > > > reveal itself!

> > > > > > With much appreciation,

> > > > > > Nance

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Patty - you are absolutely correct - an AAS is Associates in Applied

Science!! The great thing about this type of work is that it's

transportable to other industries.

Sis

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Crawling out of shock, trying to shake bitterness in

being

> > > > part of

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > human experiment, I join you all in my new journey as

I

> > > > prepare &

> > > > > > gain

> > > > > > > knowledge to properly rid of my 29 year old silicone

> > implants

> > > > and

> > > > > > > hopefully, feel alive and at peace again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I find tens of thousands of you " out there " . Man,

did

> > that

> > > > add

> > > > > > > to my emotions.A holocaust of suffering. Deceit at it

> > > > finest.

> > > > > > Anger

> > > > > > > set in. I had to wait a week just to introduce

myself! I

> > > > feel

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > sadness for every woman that is or has experienced

this

> > hell.

> > > > I

> > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > the pain. I am so very sorry. (But) You are all

> > blessings.

> > > > > > Inspiring

> > > > > > > me and others, providing information and guidance.

Thank

> > > > you,

> > > > > > all ...

> > > > > > > you sweet beautiful women. I am grateful to your

sharing

> > &

> > > > > > strength.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm just now getting into all the links and trying to

> > review

> > > > all

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > information, and it seems like forever. Dial-up,

&

> > my

> > > > > > painful

> > > > > > > fingers do not play well together.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm holistic. Am working on going to a clinic in a

week

> > to

> > > > ask for

> > > > > > > tests and am looking for a list of recommend tests

> > somewhere?

> > > > That

> > > > > > > would be terrific! I also scheduled a mammogram.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Finding a knowledgeable surgeon, compassionate &

> > understanding

> > > > > > would be

> > > > > > > nice! I live between Indianapolis (IN) & Dayton (OH),

> > should

> > > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > have reference and I am cruising your links as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am assuming that the surgery will be extensive &

messy,

> > > > since I

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > lived with silicone adhered to my bones. I search

for

> > the

> > > > all

> > > > > > > explant/removal procedures to ask for.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also search for names of procedures that rids the

loose

> > > > skin

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > explant (tidy up the mess / flatten me up) and away I

go.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have gained much excitement in the prospect of a

healthy

> > > > life to

> > > > > > > reveal itself!

> > > > > > > With much appreciation,

> > > > > > > Nance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Libby, the web site that you went to to sign up for this group is the best there

is.

ew

Hello from a newbie

Hi!

I am Libby, I live in Erie, PA. I am originally from Ky.

I sprouted in a Mason Jar once a few thousand years ago.

I am 53, and turning to a vegan lifestyle after being about 3/4th vegetarian

for years.

I have an Easy Sprouter.

Is there a good web site that has tons of info on it?

Any advice anyone wants to give a newby is greatly appreciated.

I am glad to be here, and look forward to learning from you guys.

Libby

--

*Mr. Salt-* Quite a nice little canoe you got there, Wonka.

*Willie Wonka*: All I ask is a tall ship and a star to sail her by. All

aboard, everybody.

*Mr. Salt-* Ladies first, and that means Veruca.

*Grandpa Joe - * [*to Charlie*] If she's a lady, I'm a Vermicious Knid.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Actually I found this group through searching , LOL.

You mean Sproutpeople, right? I was told that by another member,

and (all of a sudden) I now notice it on the front page of the group.

Oh, how blind those who do not see! LOL

Lib

of the red face

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Libby, the web site that you went to to sign up for this group is the best

> there is.

> ew

>

>

> --

*Mr. Salt-* Quite a nice little canoe you got there, Wonka.

*Willie Wonka*: All I ask is a tall ship and a star to sail her by. All

aboard, everybody.

*Mr. Salt-* Ladies first, and that means Veruca.

*Grandpa Joe - * [*to Charlie*] If she's a lady, I'm a Vermicious Knid.

[Guest guest]

Hi Libby.

Welcome. I also started using mason jars, and now I am proud to day I use the

round green trays and I LOVE THEM. This website is invaluable, as is the

Sproutpeople website.

Also, I learned lots of stuff simply by going on youtube and learning various

sprouting methods. I'm up there as well, do a search on eliz7212 on youtube and

among my many videos, I have many sprouting videos that I share with people. How

I sprout, what I use to sprout and how they turn out.

It's a fascinating hobby.

so take care

Sproutingly yours,

Melody

>

> Hi!

> I am Libby, I live in Erie, PA. I am originally from Ky.

> I sprouted in a Mason Jar once a few thousand years ago.

> I am 53, and turning to a vegan lifestyle after being about 3/4th vegetarian

> for years.

> I have an Easy Sprouter.

> Is there a good web site that has tons of info on it?

> Any advice anyone wants to give a newby is greatly appreciated.

> I am glad to be here, and look forward to learning from you guys.

>

> Libby

> --

> *Mr. Salt-* Quite a nice little canoe you got there, Wonka.

> *Willie Wonka*: All I ask is a tall ship and a star to sail her by. All

> aboard, everybody.

> *Mr. Salt-* Ladies first, and that means Veruca.

> *Grandpa Joe - * [*to Charlie*] If she's a lady, I'm a Vermicious Knid.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Libby and Welcome,

As ew said, .com is the best place on the web for info on sprouting.

I am in NJ, about 10 miles from Princeton. Been sprouting mung beans and lentils

probably for about 20 years but recently have started sprouting a wide range of

things plus growing wheatgrass and microgreens. I planted a bit of arugula for

microgreens for Thanksgiving and and sprouting popcorn and peas to plant for

greens.

I am a vegan too. My current sprouting settup is 2 easy spouters, 1 set of

Sprout Garden trays, a tray for wheatgrass for me & Katgrass for the cats and

dog, plus various plastic food containers for pea sprouts (my birds love them),

sunflower greens and microgreens.

Definitely check out Melody's videos. And don't be afraid to ask questions.

Folks here are very helpful and knowledgeable.

n Rollings, PhD

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

908-500-7295

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