Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 , The high protein can be related to ammonia. Here, if my daughter is hyperventilating, I can count on ammonia. I don't notice the smell as some folks do. We use Yucca when this occurs and also w higher protein meals. This Yasko group may be helpful; http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CFS_Yasko/ > > I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 , The high protein can be related to ammonia. Here, if my daughter is hyperventilating, I can count on ammonia. I don't notice the smell as some folks do. We use Yucca when this occurs and also w higher protein meals. This Yasko group may be helpful; http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CFS_Yasko/ > > I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 , The high protein can be related to ammonia. Here, if my daughter is hyperventilating, I can count on ammonia. I don't notice the smell as some folks do. We use Yucca when this occurs and also w higher protein meals. This Yasko group may be helpful; http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CFS_Yasko/ > > I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 My son makes ammonia everyday and it causes stims. I use 2 yucca pills, you can put them on protein or just seperate them out over the day. You can also do a charcoal flush. You do give 2 activated charcoal tablets with magnesium seperate from all other supplements. This gets rid of anything in the system, which is why you want to seperate it out from his other supplements. I do charcoal every other day but most people do it 1 to 2 times a week. Also when yeast goes up so does ammonia, but ammonia rises for other reasons, such as sulfur based methylation and protein. Good luck! Subject: More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 My son makes ammonia everyday and it causes stims. I use 2 yucca pills, you can put them on protein or just seperate them out over the day. You can also do a charcoal flush. You do give 2 activated charcoal tablets with magnesium seperate from all other supplements. This gets rid of anything in the system, which is why you want to seperate it out from his other supplements. I do charcoal every other day but most people do it 1 to 2 times a week. Also when yeast goes up so does ammonia, but ammonia rises for other reasons, such as sulfur based methylation and protein. Good luck! Subject: More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 My son makes ammonia everyday and it causes stims. I use 2 yucca pills, you can put them on protein or just seperate them out over the day. You can also do a charcoal flush. You do give 2 activated charcoal tablets with magnesium seperate from all other supplements. This gets rid of anything in the system, which is why you want to seperate it out from his other supplements. I do charcoal every other day but most people do it 1 to 2 times a week. Also when yeast goes up so does ammonia, but ammonia rises for other reasons, such as sulfur based methylation and protein. Good luck! Subject: More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  How do you know if the child has high ammonia levels? Aside from testing, are there symptoms, odor? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Natasha sSent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:18 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: More on Ammonia Please!  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  How do you know if the child has high ammonia levels? Aside from testing, are there symptoms, odor? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Natasha sSent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:18 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: More on Ammonia Please!  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  How do you know if the child has high ammonia levels? Aside from testing, are there symptoms, odor? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Natasha sSent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:18 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: More on Ammonia Please!  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hi. Thanks for all your great suggestions. As far as the activated charcoal goes, 2 capsules once a day, correct? I should add magnesium to it? Also, I never really knew how often was ok to give it. Also, sometimes I do not see the black from the charcoal in her stools until 24-48 hours later. I wasn't sure if this was an indication of anything or not. I was kind of thinking if it is taking that long to get through her intestinal tract, maybe this is not such a good thing. She moves her bowels daily, always has. Constipation has never been an issue. While we are on the subject, how much weight do you put on the Doctors Data urine test for yeast?? Is the arabinose level the best indicator as to how much yeast we are dealing with?? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Re: More on Ammonia Please!  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her.   More on Ammonia Please! To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM  I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hi. Thanks for all your great suggestions. As far as the activated charcoal goes, 2 capsules once a day, correct? I should add magnesium to it? Also, I never really knew how often was ok to give it. Also, sometimes I do not see the black from the charcoal in her stools until 24-48 hours later. I wasn't sure if this was an indication of anything or not. I was kind of thinking if it is taking that long to get through her intestinal tract, maybe this is not such a good thing. She moves her bowels daily, always has. Constipation has never been an issue. While we are on the subject, how much weight do you put on the Doctors Data urine test for yeast?? Is the arabinose level the best indicator as to how much yeast we are dealing with?? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Re: More on Ammonia Please!  When my dd had high levels of ammonia, her DAN suggested to use Ketoglutaric acid from Kirkman's .I think it was 2 cap. a day for a month. It worked really well for her.   More on Ammonia Please! To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM  I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 In my house, when it's really bad, ammonia/chemically smelling breath on top of the not so bad symptoms: aggression, temper tantrums and anger/self-regulating issues and overall fog. It can also look like yeast in my house but the way I can differentiate is sleep and mouthing. His sleep isn't usually disrupted whereas with yeast, he'll start waking up at 3am and he'll always have his fingers or toes in his mouth. This is why I always like to remind people to take notes during die off so you can see what the specific symptoms increased/what symptoms disappeared (both will tell you the symptoms of whatever it is you are treating) during that time. Once you have the notes, you can compare them all and see what's different so you know how to identify which is which.He also has the ammonia gene (per Yasko results) so I just keep him on Yucca. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 In my house, when it's really bad, ammonia/chemically smelling breath on top of the not so bad symptoms: aggression, temper tantrums and anger/self-regulating issues and overall fog. It can also look like yeast in my house but the way I can differentiate is sleep and mouthing. His sleep isn't usually disrupted whereas with yeast, he'll start waking up at 3am and he'll always have his fingers or toes in his mouth. This is why I always like to remind people to take notes during die off so you can see what the specific symptoms increased/what symptoms disappeared (both will tell you the symptoms of whatever it is you are treating) during that time. Once you have the notes, you can compare them all and see what's different so you know how to identify which is which.He also has the ammonia gene (per Yasko results) so I just keep him on Yucca. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 In my house, when it's really bad, ammonia/chemically smelling breath on top of the not so bad symptoms: aggression, temper tantrums and anger/self-regulating issues and overall fog. It can also look like yeast in my house but the way I can differentiate is sleep and mouthing. His sleep isn't usually disrupted whereas with yeast, he'll start waking up at 3am and he'll always have his fingers or toes in his mouth. This is why I always like to remind people to take notes during die off so you can see what the specific symptoms increased/what symptoms disappeared (both will tell you the symptoms of whatever it is you are treating) during that time. Once you have the notes, you can compare them all and see what's different so you know how to identify which is which.He also has the ammonia gene (per Yasko results) so I just keep him on Yucca. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Cheryl, how much yucca do you give? My kiddos need this too!Rhonda Masengale In my house, when it's really bad, ammonia/chemically smelling breath on top of the not so bad symptoms: aggression, temper tantrums and anger/self-regulating issues and overall fog. It can also look like yeast in my house but the way I can differentiate is sleep and mouthing. His sleep isn't usually disrupted whereas with yeast, he'll start waking up at 3am and he'll always have his fingers or toes in his mouth. This is why I always like to remind people to take notes during die off so you can see what the specific symptoms increased/what symptoms disappeared (both will tell you the symptoms of whatever it is you are treating) during that time. Once you have the notes, you can compare them all and see what's different so you know how to identify which is which.He also has the ammonia gene (per Yasko results) so I just keep him on Yucca. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~  The urine smells horrible, like ammonia.Also brain fog. More on Ammonia Please!To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?Any input would be appreciated.Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi Cheryl, Where/how do you buy yucca? Thanks! Patty > > > >> > > > >> From: kleinb14 <dbklein34@> > > > >> Subject: More on Ammonia Please! > > > >> To: mb12 valtrex > > > >> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > > >> > > > >> Any input would be appreciated. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> . > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi Cheryl, Where/how do you buy yucca? Thanks! Patty > > > >> > > > >> From: kleinb14 <dbklein34@> > > > >> Subject: More on Ammonia Please! > > > >> To: mb12 valtrex > > > >> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > > >> > > > >> Any input would be appreciated. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> . > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Added tidbit: Yucca is also an anti-inflammatory. Gotta love those double whammies! To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 12:56:26 PMSubject: Re: More on Ammonia Please! Hi Cheryl,Where/how do you buy yucca?Thanks!Patty> > > >> > > > >> From: kleinb14 <dbklein34@>> > > >> Subject: More on Ammonia Please!> > > >> To: mb12 valtrex > > > >> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia?> > > >> > > > >> Any input would be appreciated.> > > >> > > > >> Thanks.> > > >> > > > >> .> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Do Probiotics help to reduce ammonia? More on Ammonia Please! > > > >> To: mb12 valtrex > > > >> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:59 AM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I recall Karas ammonia being high when we initially started. Never really knew too much about it. I have read about the giggling, night wakenings etc. that stem from yeast and may also stem from hi ammonia. Kara eats quite a bit of protein, could this cause elevated ammonia? How should I be treating it? Just looking for some more information and for those of you with experience to elaborate. Is it possible I am constantly treating yeast when I could/should be treating ammonia? > > > >> > > > >> Any input would be appreciated. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> . > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.