Re: setbacks

[Guest guest]

I think that for some of us, also, losing weight and being happy about it makes some unconscious part of us feel like there must've been something wrong with us before if we're so happy to have less of ourselves.. and your inner " Wild Child " gets rebellious about that. 

i learned this from an awesome book called The Four Day Win. She talks about how you have to acknowledge all of these different sides of yourself... and recognize that EACH is trying to protect you in her own individual way... the Wild Child gets mad at the idea that you should have to restrict, or change yourself... and that by recognizing that each part of you wants you to succeed and be happy, you can work towards integrating these different selves.

but i found that posting about any sort of " success " , well, mainly weight loss, led me AWAY from the behaviors that i had been happy enough to post about. now i find i'm okay to write about my behavior but i don't post about my weight. maybe someday i will if i lose a substantial amount. for now, it's about the same as it's been, maybe a little less. and that's FINE. what i'm proud of is that i no longer even think about dieting. and food just isn't one of the main tools in my arsenal for dealing with emotions. it gets used occasionally, but not all the time. it used to be every single night. so that's my big accomplishment.

not to say others can't post about their weight loss, but i'd be aware that for some of us, we haven't had the best experiences with it! but others seem to do fine with it. 

but i definitely think a binge is NOT a backslide. it's an opportunity to see how far you've come! and that's awesome!bestabby

 

Thanks, MJ.

  I suspect that after decades of restrictive dieting, the mere thought that I'm losing a bit of weight makes me feel like I must again be submitting to some restrictive regime. And then I rebel.

    I'm hoping that in time I will be able to tolerate losing weight without triggering that sense of being both deprived and controlled. Meanwhile I'm trying to remember that the rebellious part of me comes from a good place:  it doesn't want me to starve.

April

 

 

April,I have that SAME trigger, feeling like I'm doing well. I get overconfident & it sets me off. Sometimes I notice that I will post something in a group about my progress & that will trigger me. WOW! It's like the " voice " comes in & says " who do you think you are? you think you have this beat? let me show you that you DON'T!!!! " . Gosh, that is a good thing to recognize, it wasn't until you mentioned it that it became clear so thank you. Recognizing our triggers is so important because we can't feel the feelings if we don't know what they are about.mj>> HI, all. >   Well, I can feel pretty proud of myself for a while, just  humming along > feeling like an IE pro. But then...a couple of days of being  too tired, a > family dinner in a restaurant, a long night unable to sleep and I  find that > I've gone back to eating like a crazed animal. Mostly sweets. >    I actually even think that one of the triggers for  overeating was the > feeling that I was doing so well - something about having  success with this > that makes me think I might actually lose weight and then I  start > overeating. >    Getting back on the horse today. Recognizing that it's  a slower process > than I want it to be. But also scared that I'm going to  sabotage my > success at this. Anyone else have this experience? > April>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I think that for some of us, also, losing weight and being happy about it makes some unconscious part of us feel like there must've been something wrong with us before if we're so happy to have less of ourselves.. and your inner " Wild Child " gets rebellious about that. 

i learned this from an awesome book called The Four Day Win. She talks about how you have to acknowledge all of these different sides of yourself... and recognize that EACH is trying to protect you in her own individual way... the Wild Child gets mad at the idea that you should have to restrict, or change yourself... and that by recognizing that each part of you wants you to succeed and be happy, you can work towards integrating these different selves.

but i found that posting about any sort of " success " , well, mainly weight loss, led me AWAY from the behaviors that i had been happy enough to post about. now i find i'm okay to write about my behavior but i don't post about my weight. maybe someday i will if i lose a substantial amount. for now, it's about the same as it's been, maybe a little less. and that's FINE. what i'm proud of is that i no longer even think about dieting. and food just isn't one of the main tools in my arsenal for dealing with emotions. it gets used occasionally, but not all the time. it used to be every single night. so that's my big accomplishment.

not to say others can't post about their weight loss, but i'd be aware that for some of us, we haven't had the best experiences with it! but others seem to do fine with it. 

but i definitely think a binge is NOT a backslide. it's an opportunity to see how far you've come! and that's awesome!bestabby

 

Thanks, MJ.

  I suspect that after decades of restrictive dieting, the mere thought that I'm losing a bit of weight makes me feel like I must again be submitting to some restrictive regime. And then I rebel.

    I'm hoping that in time I will be able to tolerate losing weight without triggering that sense of being both deprived and controlled. Meanwhile I'm trying to remember that the rebellious part of me comes from a good place:  it doesn't want me to starve.

April

 

 

April,I have that SAME trigger, feeling like I'm doing well. I get overconfident & it sets me off. Sometimes I notice that I will post something in a group about my progress & that will trigger me. WOW! It's like the " voice " comes in & says " who do you think you are? you think you have this beat? let me show you that you DON'T!!!! " . Gosh, that is a good thing to recognize, it wasn't until you mentioned it that it became clear so thank you. Recognizing our triggers is so important because we can't feel the feelings if we don't know what they are about.mj>> HI, all. >   Well, I can feel pretty proud of myself for a while, just  humming along > feeling like an IE pro. But then...a couple of days of being  too tired, a > family dinner in a restaurant, a long night unable to sleep and I  find that > I've gone back to eating like a crazed animal. Mostly sweets. >    I actually even think that one of the triggers for  overeating was the > feeling that I was doing so well - something about having  success with this > that makes me think I might actually lose weight and then I  start > overeating. >    Getting back on the horse today. Recognizing that it's  a slower process > than I want it to be. But also scared that I'm going to  sabotage my > success at this. Anyone else have this experience? > April>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I think that for some of us, also, losing weight and being happy about it makes some unconscious part of us feel like there must've been something wrong with us before if we're so happy to have less of ourselves.. and your inner " Wild Child " gets rebellious about that. 

i learned this from an awesome book called The Four Day Win. She talks about how you have to acknowledge all of these different sides of yourself... and recognize that EACH is trying to protect you in her own individual way... the Wild Child gets mad at the idea that you should have to restrict, or change yourself... and that by recognizing that each part of you wants you to succeed and be happy, you can work towards integrating these different selves.

but i found that posting about any sort of " success " , well, mainly weight loss, led me AWAY from the behaviors that i had been happy enough to post about. now i find i'm okay to write about my behavior but i don't post about my weight. maybe someday i will if i lose a substantial amount. for now, it's about the same as it's been, maybe a little less. and that's FINE. what i'm proud of is that i no longer even think about dieting. and food just isn't one of the main tools in my arsenal for dealing with emotions. it gets used occasionally, but not all the time. it used to be every single night. so that's my big accomplishment.

not to say others can't post about their weight loss, but i'd be aware that for some of us, we haven't had the best experiences with it! but others seem to do fine with it. 

but i definitely think a binge is NOT a backslide. it's an opportunity to see how far you've come! and that's awesome!bestabby

 

Thanks, MJ.

  I suspect that after decades of restrictive dieting, the mere thought that I'm losing a bit of weight makes me feel like I must again be submitting to some restrictive regime. And then I rebel.

    I'm hoping that in time I will be able to tolerate losing weight without triggering that sense of being both deprived and controlled. Meanwhile I'm trying to remember that the rebellious part of me comes from a good place:  it doesn't want me to starve.

April

 

 

April,I have that SAME trigger, feeling like I'm doing well. I get overconfident & it sets me off. Sometimes I notice that I will post something in a group about my progress & that will trigger me. WOW! It's like the " voice " comes in & says " who do you think you are? you think you have this beat? let me show you that you DON'T!!!! " . Gosh, that is a good thing to recognize, it wasn't until you mentioned it that it became clear so thank you. Recognizing our triggers is so important because we can't feel the feelings if we don't know what they are about.mj>> HI, all. >   Well, I can feel pretty proud of myself for a while, just  humming along > feeling like an IE pro. But then...a couple of days of being  too tired, a > family dinner in a restaurant, a long night unable to sleep and I  find that > I've gone back to eating like a crazed animal. Mostly sweets. >    I actually even think that one of the triggers for  overeating was the > feeling that I was doing so well - something about having  success with this > that makes me think I might actually lose weight and then I  start > overeating. >    Getting back on the horse today. Recognizing that it's  a slower process > than I want it to be. But also scared that I'm going to  sabotage my > success at this. Anyone else have this experience? > April>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to setbacks. Interesting how that works!

Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program. I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response. Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming. Interesting... I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.

On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight. I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap. While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to setbacks. Interesting how that works!

Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program. I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response. Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming. Interesting... I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.

On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight. I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap. While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

Hi,I too have a problem when I know I've lost weight and I feel, for me, it is because I am using my weight to hide from the world especially men. Can anyone relate?Barb Re: setbacks

Hi all,I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to setbacks. Interesting how that works!Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program. I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response. Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming. Interesting... I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight. I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap. While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

Hi,I too have a problem when I know I've lost weight and I feel, for me, it is because I am using my weight to hide from the world especially men. Can anyone relate?Barb Re: setbacks

Hi all,I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to setbacks. Interesting how that works!Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program. I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response. Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming. Interesting... I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight. I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap. While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

Hi,I too have a problem when I know I've lost weight and I feel, for me, it is because I am using my weight to hide from the world especially men. Can anyone relate?Barb Re: setbacks

Hi all,I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to setbacks. Interesting how that works!Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program. I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response. Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming. Interesting... I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight. I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap. While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was the one who was doing both OA & IE in the beginning and I thought I could

make them work but I just couldn't. Different OA groups have different " rules "

as to how the meetings function. In my group we were not allowed to mention ANY

foods by name & there was a lot of focus on " abstinence " . And then there is the

idea that every new person should get a " sponsor " right away. In the end I

decided that I really couldn't marry the two programs together. I decided that I

wanted to focus solely on IE & that's what I've done. My personal opinion is

that going the OA route works for some people. I think the 12 steps are really

awesome & I think they work especially well for addictions like alcohol & drugs

that one CAN live without. BUT we cannot live without food so it is somewhat

different. This of course is just MY own opinion & I am interested to hear what

people who have been to both have to say.

mj

>

> Hi all,

>

> I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to

setbacks.? Interesting how that works!

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was the one who was doing both OA & IE in the beginning and I thought I could

make them work but I just couldn't. Different OA groups have different " rules "

as to how the meetings function. In my group we were not allowed to mention ANY

foods by name & there was a lot of focus on " abstinence " . And then there is the

idea that every new person should get a " sponsor " right away. In the end I

decided that I really couldn't marry the two programs together. I decided that I

wanted to focus solely on IE & that's what I've done. My personal opinion is

that going the OA route works for some people. I think the 12 steps are really

awesome & I think they work especially well for addictions like alcohol & drugs

that one CAN live without. BUT we cannot live without food so it is somewhat

different. This of course is just MY own opinion & I am interested to hear what

people who have been to both have to say.

mj

>

> Hi all,

>

> I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to

setbacks.? Interesting how that works!

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was the one who was doing both OA & IE in the beginning and I thought I could

make them work but I just couldn't. Different OA groups have different " rules "

as to how the meetings function. In my group we were not allowed to mention ANY

foods by name & there was a lot of focus on " abstinence " . And then there is the

idea that every new person should get a " sponsor " right away. In the end I

decided that I really couldn't marry the two programs together. I decided that I

wanted to focus solely on IE & that's what I've done. My personal opinion is

that going the OA route works for some people. I think the 12 steps are really

awesome & I think they work especially well for addictions like alcohol & drugs

that one CAN live without. BUT we cannot live without food so it is somewhat

different. This of course is just MY own opinion & I am interested to hear what

people who have been to both have to say.

mj

>

> Hi all,

>

> I too freaked myself out when I weighed myself in October...which did lead to

setbacks.? Interesting how that works!

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest

I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't

eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right

when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA

food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it

that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy

or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest

I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't

eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right

when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA

food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it

that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy

or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest

I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't

eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right

when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA

food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it

that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy

or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters

Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and

decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a

letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a

letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't

even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be

aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. DawnTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AMSubject: Re: setbacks

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. DawnTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AMSubject: Re: setbacks

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. DawnTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AMSubject: Re: setbacks

Hi ,

I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is well ingrained into me and my life.

I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

Alana

>

> Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

>

> I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be aware that it's a possibility.

>

> On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!

>

> Have a great day!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have

also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something

that I thought I share...

This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not

about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up.

We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works.

There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to

accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences

and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.

May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God

willing.

M.

>

> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find

a

> balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or

> food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. " Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the

last

> about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was

what

> I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping

> tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits.

>

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM

> Subject: Re: setbacks

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the

thinnest

> I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

>

> But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

> to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

> foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

> that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

> salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I

couldn't

> eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

> powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

> remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

>

> I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or

right

> when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

> like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

> One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her

OA

> food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

>

>

> That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about

it

> that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

>

> But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

> based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

> find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food

allergy

> or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

> well ingrained into me and my life.

>

> I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

> on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

> re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

> resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

> But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

>

> Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

> your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

>

> Alana

> >

> > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at

Overeaters

> >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

> >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings

and

> >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

> >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

> >

> > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes

a

> >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes

a

> >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

> >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I

can't

> >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

> >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to

be

> >aware that it's a possibility.

> >

> > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is

> >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for

> >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

> >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

> >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so

long!!!

> >

> > Have a great day!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have

also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something

that I thought I share...

This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not

about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up.

We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works.

There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to

accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences

and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.

May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God

willing.

M.

>

> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find

a

> balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or

> food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. " Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the

last

> about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was

what

> I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping

> tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits.

>

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM

> Subject: Re: setbacks

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the

thinnest

> I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

>

> But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

> to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

> foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

> that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

> salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I

couldn't

> eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

> powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

> remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

>

> I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or

right

> when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

> like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

> One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her

OA

> food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

>

>

> That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about

it

> that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

>

> But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

> based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

> find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food

allergy

> or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

> well ingrained into me and my life.

>

> I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

> on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

> re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

> resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

> But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

>

> Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

> your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

>

> Alana

> >

> > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at

Overeaters

> >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

> >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings

and

> >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

> >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

> >

> > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes

a

> >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes

a

> >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

> >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I

can't

> >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

> >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to

be

> >aware that it's a possibility.

> >

> > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is

> >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for

> >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

> >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

> >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so

long!!!

> >

> > Have a great day!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have

also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something

that I thought I share...

This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not

about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up.

We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works.

There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to

accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences

and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.

May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God

willing.

M.

>

> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find

a

> balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or

> food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. " Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the

last

> about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was

what

> I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping

> tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits.

>

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM

> Subject: Re: setbacks

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the

thinnest

> I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.

>

> But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going

> to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type

> foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards

> that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating

> salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I

couldn't

> eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and

> powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day,

> remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.

>

> I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or

right

> when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt

> like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA.

> One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her

OA

> food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor.

>

>

> That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about

it

> that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs.

>

> But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules

> based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to

> find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food

allergy

> or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a

> balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is

> well ingrained into me and my life.

>

> I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne

> on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and

> re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not

> resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it.

> But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.

>

> Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with

> your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!

>

> Alana

> >

> > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at

Overeaters

> >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from

> >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings

and

> >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following

> >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.

> >

> > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes

a

> >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes

a

> >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I

> >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I

can't

> >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not

> >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to

be

> >aware that it's a possibility.

> >

> > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis

is

> >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish

for

> >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones

> >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my

> >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so

long!!!

> >

> > Have a great day!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Barb, I can relate to what you are saying. Since I was age 12-13 I have been

consciously hiding my body with layers of fat. When I started getting male

attention at that age, it really scared me, and I didn't know how to deal with

those feelings. There's a vulnerability with weight loss for some of us that we

need to examine and maybe work through.

Marg.

> Hi,

> I too have a problem when I know I've lost weight and I feel, for me, it is

because I am using my weight to hide from the world especially men. Can anyone

relate?

> Barb

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, M. - This is good! This is why I want to be an Intuitive Eater!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: ammi_mali@...Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:11:02 +0000Subject: Re: setbacks

Hi again,I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something that I thought I share...This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up. We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works. There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God willing.M.>> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a > balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or > food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last > about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what > I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping > tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. > > > Dawn> > > > > ________________________________> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM> Subject: Re: setbacks> > > Hi ,> > I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest > I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.> > But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going > to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type > foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards > that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating > salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't > eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and > powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, > remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.> > I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right > when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt > like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. > One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA > food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor. > > > That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it > that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs. > > But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules > based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to > find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy > or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is > well ingrained into me and my life.> > I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne > on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and > re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not > resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. > But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.> > Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with > your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!> > Alana> > > > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters > >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from > >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and > >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following > >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.> > > > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a > >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a > >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I > >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't > >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not > >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be > >aware that it's a possibility.> > > > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is > >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for > >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones > >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my > >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!> > > > Have a great day!> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, M. - This is good! This is why I want to be an Intuitive Eater!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: ammi_mali@...Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:11:02 +0000Subject: Re: setbacks

Hi again,I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something that I thought I share...This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up. We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works. There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God willing.M.>> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a > balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or > food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last > about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what > I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping > tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. > > > Dawn> > > > > ________________________________> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM> Subject: Re: setbacks> > > Hi ,> > I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest > I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.> > But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going > to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type > foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards > that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating > salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't > eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and > powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, > remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.> > I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right > when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt > like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. > One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA > food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor. > > > That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it > that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs. > > But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules > based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to > find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy > or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is > well ingrained into me and my life.> > I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne > on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and > re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not > resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. > But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.> > Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with > your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!> > Alana> > > > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters > >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from > >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and > >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following > >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.> > > > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a > >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a > >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I > >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't > >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not > >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be > >aware that it's a possibility.> > > > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is > >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for > >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones > >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my > >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!> > > > Have a great day!> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, M. - This is good! This is why I want to be an Intuitive Eater!

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: ammi_mali@...Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:11:02 +0000Subject: Re: setbacks

Hi again,I've been thinking a lot about setbacks the last few days, especially as I have also experienced them in other parts of my life and I finally realized something that I thought I share...This may sound like a cliche but I finally realized the point of life is not about staying up, but to get good at falling and get better at getting up. We expect to never fall or never have setbacks and that's not how life works. There WILL be setbacks and there WILL be times when we will fall. We need to accept that and not judge ourselves. We need to learn from those experiences and keep getting up, each time stronger and more confident.May we never lose hope when we fall and may we always keep getting up... God willing.M.>> " I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to find a > balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy or > food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act." Alana, thank you. These words just hit me. especially the last > about the balancing act, (as I read while eating a corn dog because it was what > I wanted at that moment. Worked past hunger, darn it, thought I was keeping > tabs. I'd print those lines, but my printer is giving me fits. > > > Dawn> > > > > ________________________________> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 9:52:49 AM> Subject: Re: setbacks> > > Hi ,> > I did OA many, many years ago and lost quite a bit a weight and was the thinnest > I've ever been in my entire life and was able to keep it off for 3-4 years.> > But when I look back, it was all I ever thought about and I can remember going > to the movies with a group of friends and instead of popcorn and candy type > foods, I was eating sunflower seeds. When we went to a restaurant afterwards > that was also a ice cream/soda fountain (like in the olden days) I was eating > salad with lemon juice. I remember feeling sad and deprived because I couldn't > eat what everyone else was eating. But I also remember feeling proud and > powerful that I was able to do that. A good friend that was with me that day, > remembers how I lived on salads. To me that is not living.> > I tried going back to OA a few years ago either right before I found IE or right > when I started IE (I can't remember). I went to a few meetings. And I felt > like the people there lived in little OA boxes. Their lives lived around OA. > One lady planned a trip to Hawaii and rented a condo so she could prepare her OA > food and she continued to call 3 people a day and check in with her sponsor. > > > That may work for some people, and I think OA has some wonderful things about it > that can really help people, just like any other 12 step programs. > > But I decided it was definately not IE related and was actually very rules > based. I want to live life, not restrict myself from living life. I want to > find a balance of how I can enjoy all foods in moderation (unless a food allergy > or food intolerance that affects health). It is always just that for me - a > balancing act. Some days are better than others but for the most part, IE is > well ingrained into me and my life.> > I too have been muddling my way through A Course In Weight Loss by Marrianne > on. I am reading it all the way through and then I will go back and > re-read and do the exercises as I choose to. There are some that are not > resonating with me. And I'm doing it extremely slowly and as I feel like it. > But it is a very good book, as all of her books I've read.> > Way to go on your knees. How wonderful to find out it has nothing to do with > your weight. That relieves so much pressure on you!> > Alana> > > > Awhile ago I asked, but I'll ask again...have any of you worked at Overeaters > >Anonymous to work on those issues?? I'm curious if any have found relief from > >this weight preoccupation through that program.? I tried a couple meetings and > >decided against it, but keep toying with the idea of going back and following > >Intuitive Eating as my eating plan.> > > > I've found that the new nne on book is neat because one writes a > >letter to one's not-thin self and then writes a response, and one also writes a > >letter to one's thin self and gets a response.? Through these exercises I > >realized that I had a hard time of conceiving of myself as thin...and if I can't > >even imagine it then it'll be a long time coming.? Interesting...? I'm not > >attached to thinness for thinness' sake, but at the same time I also want to be > >aware that it's a possibility.> > > > On another note, went to a chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is > >NOT my fault and NOT the fault of my weight.? I've been so self-attack-ish for > >so long...and didn't realize that I have a slight unevenness in my leg bones > >that CAUSES wear-and-tear on the kneecap.? While that's not good news for my > >future, I could cry at the fact that I have been self-attacking for so long!!!> > > > Have a great day!> > > > > >>