Colon cleansing

April 22, 2001

Greg,

You are the first to ask since I got the address:

The Voice In The Wilderness Mission

PO Box 71

, MA 01220-0071

ph: 413-743-9743

fax: 413-743-3800

Contact Lillian

Vernon J. Dawson, hygienic practitioner

This is a 7th Day Adventist organization, so they teach what foods to

eat & how to cook them while there, as part of the experience. The cost

is somewhere arround $1800 for the 10-day cleanout & everything. They do

have supplements to buy extra, if you wish. Things they introduce you to

there.

jim

Crook wrote:

>

> What is the name of that centre?

>

> Greg

> Re: Re: colon cleansing

>

> >

> > Jim Lambert wrote: A friend just came back from 10 days in MAssachussetts

> at a Seventh DayAdventist spa where they really get the gunk out & train

> people who toeat. They didn't use colonics, rather had the people drink

> " gallons " ofseawater and herbs & stuff, sit in saunas then get doused with

> coldwater, etc.I had to stop him describing all the goop that came out of

> him, but hedescribed one stinking ball of tar almost as big as a basketball

> as JUSTONE of his bowel movements! YUCCCH!!!!! But, I'm going there myself.

> ;-))jim -----carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim

> Lambertjlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> http://www.entrance.to/poetry

April 23, 2001

I believe there is www.optimumhealthinstitute.com I think that is correct.

If not, let me know and I will get the right info They take you through a

cleansing but I don't think they teach you to cook. Price is about the same or

a little less. They are in San Diego. That is all I know. Someone on the

bowel cleanse list went to them and had great success. I guess they also have a

video so you can do their program at home, if you can't go to their clinic.

Donna

colon cleansing

Does anyone know of any places like this in Southern California?

Rose

>I'll have some contact info tomorrow. It is in MAssachussetts, costs

>about $1800 for 10 days. It not only CLEANS you out, they teach you how

>to cook & eat. Say hey!

>

>jim

>

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April 23, 2001

Greetings Jimbo,

Thank you very much and I look forward to the contact info. When are you

planning to go? I am an aspiring raw-foodist so I prefer not to eat cooked

food. I wonder if they have a deal just for the cleansing program itself.

I participated in a yoga retreat in Scandinavia and they too cleansed the

body with a salt water flush. I believe you are to make the water as equally

saturated with salt as the body normally is. That way your body neither

gives or recieves the water; it simply runs right through. After each cup of

hot salt water (it actually made me want to barf....) you do a series of 4

different postures in order to internally massage and stretch your

intestines, colon, etc. I had some amazing results as well. The only thing I

didn't agree with is they say to eat only overboiled veggies for 10 days

with no salt or condiments. I don;t thinkthey understood that cooking the

food actually makes it harder to digest, not to mention kill the food. (heat

over 108 degrees or so begins to destroy the enzymes, and isn't the lack of

these little buggers along with the burden we put on our bodies by the filth

that we put into our bodies <including prescription drugs> cause a majority

of our so-called " dis-ease " ).

I think you guys (and gals...:-) are amazing and wonderful. And I

congratulate you on taking responsibilty for your own health and well being.

The best peice of advice I can give you is this: Always strive to make

yourself happy and healthy and commit to what you desire truly. And I can

say from personal experience that it's not how " fast " you improve, just that

you continue to do so. It's better to go slow and stay at all times focused

and peaceful than to push yourself to far for that moment and end up going

back on yourself. No matter what anyone else thinks or says, you will always

know you are doing your best and you WILL SUCCEED!!! , I promise from the

God of my being. All my Love!!!

Wishing you the very best of everything in Life...

With you always in Love and Truth,

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Unenlightened " -know You Are pure-

>,

>

>I'll have some contact info tomorrow. It is in MAssachussetts, costs about

>$1800 for 10 days. It not only CLEANS you out, they teach you how to cook &

>eat. Say hey!

>

>jim

>

> Brandauer wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > Could you tell me more info

>about this place? I would also like to check it > out. When are you going?

>Drop me a personal email if you like at: > energytoawaken@... . All

>my Love!!! > > Wishing you the very best of everything in Life... > > With

>you always in Love and Truth, > > > energytoawaken@... >

>

>----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert

>

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April 23, 2001

In a message dated 4/23/01 2:26:26 PM EST, ruthful@... writes:

<< I believe there is www.optimumhealthinstitute.com I think that is

correct. If not, let me know and I will get the right info They take you

through a cleansing but I don't think they teach you to cook. Price is about

the same or a little less. >>

EVERY BODY I KNOW ... that has gone has loved it. They do a lot of wheat

grass juice along with education and lots of fluids. Mostly if not all

Living (Raw ) Vegan, most have a life altering exp. or just come back with

VERY bright and clear eyes.

Blessings.

April 23, 2001

In a message dated 4/23/01 2:26:26 PM EST, ruthful@... writes:

<< I believe there is www.optimumhealthinstitute.com I think that is

correct. If not, let me know and I will get the right info They take you

through a cleansing but I don't think they teach you to cook. Price is

about the same or a little less. >>

They also have one in Austin Texas.

April 23, 2001

The price at optimum health institute is $1200 for 2 weeks.

The one in Massachuset is $1800 for 10 days

Hipocrates in WPB is outrageously expensive

April 23, 2001

Thanks Donna, but this place is actually Pennsylvania not California. Rose

I believe there is www.optimumhealthinstitute.com I think that is

correct. If not, let me know and I will get the right info They take you

through a cleansing but I don't think they teach you to cook. Price is

about the same or a little less. They are in San Diego. That is all I

know. Someone on the bowel cleanse list went to them and had great success.

I guess they also have a video so you can do their program at home, if you

can't go to their clinic.

Donna

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April 24, 2001

Hum? I know there is one in San Diego. Perhaps I have the name wrong. I will

check and see what I can find out.

Donna

Re: colon cleansing

Thanks Donna, but this place is actually Pennsylvania not California. Rose

I believe there is www.optimumhealthinstitute.com I think that is

correct. If not, let me know and I will get the right info They take you

through a cleansing but I don't think they teach you to cook. Price is

about the same or a little less. They are in San Diego. That is all I

know. Someone on the bowel cleanse list went to them and had great success.

I guess they also have a video so you can do their program at home, if you

can't go to their clinic.

Donna

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August 3, 2001

In a message dated 08/03/2001 10:47:30 AM Central Daylight Time,

karma@... writes:

> That is how I lost 35 pounds in a month! I have maintained it and am

> actually still losing on my current program.

>

> Sincerely,

> ~Karma

>

______________

Karma,

This is great and isn't this what it's all about? Looking and feeling

better?!! Even though I've done many things for several yrs to correct

a dirty colon that comes with a bad eating style< haven't arrived yet

and am working on both issues.

Thank you for the positive post.

Edith

August 3, 2001

Hi Edith,

I know I don't have all the answers, I learn so much from others.

I have won out over the sugar and diary beast in my life. It has made a

really big difference in my colon health and my overall health in general.

I hope that each day I learn my lessons, and help others, that my life won't

be just for me, but to help make other's lives better too.

~Karma

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Re: colon cleansing

In a message dated 08/03/2001 10:47:30 AM Central Daylight Time,

karma@... writes:

> That is how I lost 35 pounds in a month! I have maintained it and am

> actually still losing on my current program.

>

> Sincerely,

> ~Karma

>

______________

Karma,

This is great and isn't this what it's all about? Looking and feeling

better?!! Even though I've done many things for several yrs to correct

a dirty colon that comes with a bad eating style< haven't arrived yet

and am working on both issues.

Thank you for the positive post.

Edith

August 17, 2001

I read with great interest the article from

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/newwest/index17.html

My question is what is the cleansing this doctor prefers or what to take. I

have been a member only a short time and reading about Primal Defense. Is

this a cleanser? My gastro doctor will not discuss with me about candida but

has diagnosed my problem as lymphocytic colitis. I am taking Probiotics with

his approval and am a little better.

I noticed also the paragraph on reflux which my husband suffers with a great

deal. I am printing the article for my entire family but would appreciate

more pointers on what to read and what is best to take to cleanse the colon.

Thank you.

Barbara

November 26, 2001

> Have any of you had any success with colon cleansing?

I would like to

> try this with my 12 year old who has candida. Any

ideas on how to do

> this and where to get the stuff needed?

A staff member at my chiropractor's office referred me

to a professional colon therapist. Depending on your

insurance, they might pay for at least some of the

cost.

There are those on this list who participate in

do-it-yourself colon cleansing -- but I'm not one of

them -- chicken CLUCK CLUCK I admit it LOL! I was

uncomfortable (physically *and* mentally) with the

process, so I was glad to have an experienced person

administering the colonic. It did provide a great deal

of relief though.

Downside of hiring a pro is the cost of course, plus

you generally have to schedule an appointment in

advance, which can be a problem for someone with an

" irregular " colon (colonic is much more difficult if

the patient doesn't have a natural BM first). This

would not be as much of a problem if you had your own

equipment and did it yourself, but then you wouldn't

know what to expect or how to handle any problems that

might arise. Plus unless you have a *really* mature

12-year-old, it will probably be stressful for her.

(Colon cleansing has a great deal of benefits... but in

a way it is like throwing up, because it goes

completely backwards of the natural/usual process...

and just think how stressed out you feel when you throw

up! Sorry if anyone thinks that is a weird

comparison... but let's face it, putting water up your

behind *is* a bit unusual, what else can you compare it

to!) So I'd say start with a professional if at all

possible, then maybe after you get a feel for the

process you can switch to doing it at home. I'm sure

you will hear from other folks on this list who know

where to get the necessary equipment!

Good luck... I hate to hear about kids having to put up

with this parasite!! :^(

April 24, 2002

Jan and Supertrainers, to answer your question I must refer to an article in

the winter 2002, Vol 5, No1 Journal of the American Nutraceutical

Association (board and editors are Mds and PhDs so no 'health nuts')-'Why

funding for nutriceutical Clinical Trial Research will remain mimimal', pp

12-14.

'Question: If selected dietary supplements, such as vitamins, minerals,

herbals, food substances or their combinations are beneficial for specific

chronic conditions or illnesses, or to maintain wellness, should we expect

major pharmaceutical drug companies and/or government agencies to fund

nutraceutical human clinical trial research in order to more precisely

assess and validate such benefits?

That is, if there were anything worthwhile to pursue, surely the major

pharmaceutical

drug companies (big pharma) and/or government would be among the first to sieze

the opportunity

for improvements in 'health care'(my emphasis). Given governmental medical

panels' recommendation for many key vitamins and minerals, there is already

orthodox

acceptance of some of their products' beneficial health value.

Moreover, financial disclosure from big pharmaceutical companies note that many

are losing

some of their high profit profile patients and are anxiously seeking new avenues

for drug

successes. If some elements of the over-the-counter dietary supplement market

have usefulness, particularly for preventative care and maintenance of

wellness, as well as for specific chronic diseases and chronic conditions,

should we not expect big pharma as proven, efficient developers of drug

remedies to demonstrate their value thru clinical trial research?

Moreover, when a scientific case can be made for potential benefits of some

ntraceutical, do not appropriate gov. research-directed agencies have

responsibility to serve the public thru funding of human clinical trials,

furthering the prospects of lowcost, effective interventions and/or

preventative measures? In this commentary we focus on why big pharma have

not pursued dietary supplement clinical trials research in primary or

secondary prevention and why we should also expect governemnt funding to

continue to be modest in such areas'

The article delineates 'lack of incentatives' 1]'it is quite unlikely that

big pharma could make significant profits' Dr ph DiMasi etal at Tufts

issued cost estimates of research for -preclinical out of pocket

expenses-$121mil; clinical $282 mil. Added tied up capital, total of $466

mil (that's alot of money).

This money must be recouped and vit/min/foodcombinations/etc cannot be

patented. A unique product

combination could be patented but leaves open the door for copycaters who

didnt have the cost of the trials(sounds like the supplement industry). Also

otc remedies are not reimbursed by insurance so one less incentive. 2}'In

addition, many such remedies are preventative in nature, and there is hardly

a milieu in the USA for serious consistant commitments to preventative

measures'

'In summary, big pharma would be correct to summarize that there is little,

if any, money to be made in this area, that any advantage of nutraceutical

research trials would be shortlived, and that the prospects of losing

substancial investment are great. Thus one should hardly fault big pharma

for avoiding this area.'

Government/academic disincentives

'Governmental agencies funding research and clinical trials emanate

primarily from various divisions of NIH Some analysist are encouraged by the

observation that NIH is funding a 3000 patient study on ginko for just

$15mil, but 3000 patients may yield data which would most likely support a

call for a much large study(sound familiar), rather than being able to yield

unequivocally definite patient recommendations.'National Cancer

Institute(NCI) select trial.......whether vit e and selenium have a

protective role in cancer prevention.Cost of $180mil, with 7 year accural

period for 32000 people for at least 5 year period.......If vit E is proved

efficacious, one can obtain an entire years supply of vit E for $15.32 from

a popular mail order catalogue. If the seller nets 25% of the price before

taxes, the less than $4 net per year per patient speaks for itself in terms

of investment attractiveness'

'establishment of the National Center for Complementary and Alternative

Medicine(NCCAM)... the budget of the NCCAM is $89 mil in contrast to the NIH

$20 BIL budget(<.5 %)'

'Another factor contributing to the disinterest in nutraceutical research

has been the myth that the American diet was either adequate or could be;

from this viewpoint, research on the impact of nutraceaticals' needlessly

wastes precious dollars. Even as the integrity of the American diet declines

precipitously,4,5 this myth prevails(talk to any RD about the need for

supplements-I went to a strength clinic at a Major college this weekend and

the RD suggested Tums for calcium supplementation) even while more and more

data evolve questioning its premise.

A significant portion of the scientific community appear to embrace a

traditionalist

American ethic that says we can address the issue of nutrients if we would just

eat from

the food pyramid which the government has insured is displayed in every

elementary school

classroom around the country. With this cultural perspective, funding

research in the area of disease prevention or health maintenance through

peer review process could hardly be expected to yield a great deal of

enthusiasm. This cycle of indifference has historically fed upon itself,

with the lack of previous funded research supporting the proposition that

there was little support for further research (what type of logical

conclusion is this?)

'For the foreseeable future, we should expect virtually no funding by big

pharma and relatively modest levels of funding from the government in the

nutraceutical trial research area, which nonetheless offers potentially

significant, beneficial outcomes, typically at low cost and often with few

side effects.'

Website: www.Ana-Jana.org

So by this article we can see that:

1] there is no financial incentive for 'big pharma' to do the leg work for

something

that cannot be patented or copied after ward.

2] Americans arent big on prevention, to see this check

out your insurance to see how much the cap for annual visits for wellcare to

the Dr are compared to the disease treatment total.

3] the 'health care' system is based on disease treatment not health maintenance

or prevention,

docotrs do not get paid unless they put down a diagnosis.

4] the government has a vested interest in all the professions, food pyramids,

agricultural

supports, versus the health of the general population.

5] if all the 'experts' agree that the American diet is adequate-why is the

population of

the US = 63% are overweight, 25% obese, incidence of diabetes rising

dramatically, Coke and Pepsi are good stock to buy because of sales and soda

machines in every school, Mcs never go out of business but your local

health food store struggles to make ends meet, and most kids are fat and out

of shape because of no PE requirements?

If you depend on the government or your doctor for your own health you are

in trouble. Doctors are to help us with health problems-NOT lifesavers and

last resort measures after years of self inflicted abuse. Then we sue them

because we didn't listen to their advice in the first place.

Suggestions-study nutrition; experiment with the 'new cures' and 'miracles

remedies' and see if they work for you; 'beware of the naked man who offers

you the shirt off his back'=if it sounds to good to be true-guess what?; as

Hippocrates said 'Let food be your medicine'-avoid extreme diets, putting

anything in your body that you cannot pronounce or a shelflife longer than a

school term(not the 4 years of college, boy that twinky will be good in

2010!), eat fresh fruits and vegetables; and most of all remember that old

saying-'if I'd have known I was going to live this long I would have taken

better care of myself!!

As to fasting, most cultures around the globe have used fasts for

purification, to combat disease, religious rites for eons. Just because a

practice is old and hasn't been subject to 'scientific studies' doesn't mean

that it is not worthwhile--if it wasn't, it wouldn't have lasted!

Charlie Newkerk, C.S.C.S.

Rockledge, Flk

newkfit@...

----- Original Message -----

From: " Jan Baggerud Larsen <JBL@...>

> Was: Re: ketosis/minerals

>

> I was wondering if there are any scientific studies on the effect of

> colon cleansing? Do we have any proof that this will increase the

absorbtion

> of nutrients? The same goes for fasting and its effect on the body. Is it

> possible to " cleanse " the body and the internal organs at all using

dietary

> strategies?

----------

charlie newkerk wrote:

> <<As a note also to the fiber, my daughter had some skin eruptions a while

> back that the MDs couldnt find the cause. I suggested she take a 2 week

> colon cleanse, along with ginger( to kill parasites) and it cleared up in

> about 3 weeks. If the intestinal tract doesnt get the fiber to help 'move'

> the waste products thru the system, it tends to adhere to the walls (like

> the gunk in the drain pipes you need the drano to clear) so even if you

are

> eating all the right foods, none are being absorbed. A good colon

cleansing

> should be done 2-3 times a year, especially as we get older. It's

> inexpensive, makes you feel better, and protects your health.>>

November 9, 2002

In a message dated 11/08/2002 11:23:20 AM Central Standard Time,

aljuarez@... writes:

> Fifty two bucks ($52) for 30 days? And you think that's an outrageous price?

> Geez, you sound like my father and his excuse was that he was raised in the

> Depression.

>

> I have spent substantially more on products and, while not all of them were

> individually worth it, my health is worth it!

>

> That's why I join these lists, to see what folks think of different products

> so I can make a better guess of where I should spend my money.

>

> As for stools floating, I've never believed that but, then again, don't know

> anyone in perfect health to ask. It may be just another one of the bowel

> cleansing myths going around...

>

> -

>

I haven't kept up with this thread so I'm going to just jump in here.

My ND really stresses bowel cleansing and he does offer a product

I have used. Also wanted me to have colonics which I did a series of. I

really like their product but ran out and didn't have $$$ at that

moment to order more. I have others at my house that work

pretty good. The ND suggested since my digestion is not up

to par, not to use flaxseed oil but to use ground flaxseed on my

morning cereal and fruit. I have started doing this and found that my

BMs are much easier, I am more regular, etc, etc, etc that with the many

other things I have tried.

I already had the flaxseed and a grinder so it was just the effort involved.

Edith

January 30, 2003

In a message dated 1/29/03 7:19:19 PM Central Standard Time,

cbehrman@... writes:

> Bernard Jensen is the Master of Colon

> Cleansing. CB

>

What does Bernard Jensen recommend for colon cleansing? I went to his site,

and found a list of products, but no information about what to use?

Does his plan include fasting?

There are so many colon plans on the market, that I have no clue where to

begin!

Thanks

Hanida

June 2, 2005

In a message dated 06/02/2005 2:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mrkkpforjesus@... writes:

just found a web site taht was talking about colon cleansing and I

had no idea. I actually tell my wife i think I have some worm or

something inside me because I can go from a 16 inch waist one week and

then the next be to 42 only to have it go down overtime. Can someone

help me with all this new information? Do I need to go buy a

cleansing board? Enema? I am a bit scared because my stomack hurts

alot of the time. Thanks for all the help.

I would love information on this too,but I cannot afford to buy any of the

expensive cleansers(orinexpensive). I also cannot fast.iamverythin andeat

fiveorsixtimesaday.Icangopart of a day without eating, but not anymore than that

because of my metabolism I guess.

June 7, 2005

I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTHS WITH NO REPLY --- IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE

FAMILIAR WITH COLON BOARD CLEANSING OR NOT ?

In particular, the product offered by Wholistic Health Solutions ....

http://www.bibkit.com/order.html

And what users recommend as additives to the water -- both in cleansing --

and reintroducing the needed flora.

Final Try ...

All the Best,

Dan

April 24, 2006

http://www.wholeapproach.com/

Next, eliminate colon toxicity. This can be accomplished by using two

natural agents, Psyllium and Bentonite. Neither one is absorbed into the

system, but rather, each absorbs and then expels toxic materials in the

feces.

Psyllium (pronounced " silly-um " ) is a seed, grown commercially in India.

Its husk is used as a bulk forming laxative in numerous products, and

Constance Kies, PhD, in a 1982 issue of Prevention wrote, " As it absorbs

water in the digestive tract, the Psyllium expands, stimulating and

speeding up elimination. " Psyllium also looks as though it is a

cholesterol fighter, as Kies found in an experiment with healthy

volunteers whose cholesterol levels dropped, on average, from 193 to 168

when they added Psyllium to their customary diets.

Gastroenterologist Jack D. Welsh, MD at the University of Oklahoma Health

Sciences Center, noted in the June, 1982 edition of the American Journal

of Clinical Nutrition that Psyllium entirely prevented the expected gas

pain and nausea. If Psyllium seed powder is added to the husk powder in

the proper ratio, the preparation becomes an intestinal cleanser. The

Psyllium seed fragments are very hard; they tend to scrape away at the

toxic plaguing on the walls and clean it away over a period of months.

Bentonite, a volcanic ash, acts toward toxic material as fly paper does

with flies when processed into a very fine liquid suspension. The unique

properties of Bentonite were reported in the Medical ls of the

District of Columbia in June of 1961 by Frederick Damrau, MD, who

established that Bentonite adsorbs toxins, bacteria, and viruses both in

laboratory dishes and in humans. Because Bentonite, itself, is not

absorbed, whatever it adsorbs is removed in the feces. This includes

miscellaneous intestinal poisons and toxins generated by Candida

albicans.

The restoration of proper colon hygiene using this method takes anywhere

from three to 24 months, depending on the age and condition of the

individual. Caprylic acid can be added to help reduce the Candida

albicans. Its anti fungal properties were the subject of a 1961 Japanese

study at the Niigata University School of Medicine and were reported in

the Japanese Journal of Microbiology: " ....the fungicidal effect of

Caprylic acid on C. albicans was exceedingly powerful. " It was also noted

in journal, " Caprylic acid exhibits the most remarkable fungiastatic and

fungicidal properties of all the normal saturated fatty acids with even

numbered carbon atoms studied. The fungicidal activity of Caprylic acid

depends upon the concentration of the acid, the period of contact, and

the pH of the media. "

Traditional Caprylic acid preparations exist as capsules or tablets, but

the one we prefer is liquid Caproyl. This was designed to take advantage

of other health benefits of olive oil and to interact with the Psyllium

to amplify its fungicidal effects far beyond what Caprylic acid has

traditionally offered. We recommend that liquid Caprylic acid be mixed

with the Psyllium powder, Bentonite, and water to be taken orally once or

twice daily.

As the Psyllium gel presses up against the intestinal walls, some unique

and beneficial things occur:

the liquid Caprylic acid is released into the intestinal wall at a rate

determined by the gel, not by the intestinal pH conditions, which vary

widely among individuals. Consequently, results are predictable;

consistent, and favorable. Caprylic acid is slowly released through the

entire length of the intestinal tract.

As the gel rubs itself against the intestinal wall, it acts as a paint

brush in delivering the liquid Caprylic acid to the intestinal wall. Not

a square millimeter of wall is missed through the entire length of the

intestines.

Because the Candida albicans micro-organisms are buried deep into the

toxic accumulations on the intestinal walls, access to them is difficult.

But the bulking action of the gel forcibly rubs liquid Caprylic acid into

the filth and onto the Candida.

Liquid Caprylic acid, dispersed in a Psyllium gel, will rid most people

of major yeast symptoms in three to eight weeks. If these people really

want to improve their health, however, or merely stay well, they will

need to continue to eradicate the originating site and cause of the

problem. They will need to clean up their intestinal environment. While

other colon cleansers may be touted, we know that over a period of many

months, using the Psyllium/Bentonite mixture once or twice daily and

adding the liquid Caprylic acid every fourth week for five consecutive

days will clean out a colon and keep the Candida in check.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) susan <peacefulmeow@...>

writes:

Hi ,

I am so sorry to hear that you are going through the same thing I am

going through. My doctor sounds similar to yours, she is just humoring

me and trusting that I know my body, since she doesn't know that much

about candida. She calls it " on the fringe of regular medicine. "

I have been on the Whole Approach program and diet for three months and

have seen significant improvement. Basically it consists of colon

cleansing shakes twice a day with antifungal mixed in (this antifungal

rotates every three months), diet control, food combining, and

supplements like digestive enzymes. This is a simplification, but that's

the idea.

I also take diflucan twice a week, although I doubt it is doing me any

good. At first it was the only thing that gave me ANY relief, so I guess

I am holding onto the comfort of taking it, thinking it might help me

systemically. I just had liver testing again and it is fine, so I am

not too concerned about that aspect of the diflucan.

It is so frustrating to have to heal myself, but I have also learned SO

much through hours and hours of research! When I am finally better, I

will be healthier than I have ever been before...

Another site that is wonderful is Walt Stoll's. It has given me immense

amounts of good info. He is a real expert, and says that skilled

relaxation twice a day is necessary to heal the gut.

Please email me any time.

It's so wonderful... if your whole day is rotten, once they start the

music, it seems to melt away.

~ O'Connor

April 24, 2006

Just thought I'd pop out of " lurkdom " for a moment to say that I totally

agree that colon cleansing is important in the fight against candida. It

is also beneficial just for the overall health of the body. I know the

psyllium and bentonite shakes are very popular for cleansing and they do

work well, but my husband had a reaction to the bentonite. He's very

sensitive to sulphur. I did a little research and found this site:

www.colonblow.com. They take a lighthearted approach to cleansing that

is kind of funny. :-) But, the product is for real and we ordered

several packs and have been very pleased with the results of our

cleanses. I did my first one over the weekend and it was really

disgusting what came out! I'm feeling lighter today! The thing I like

about their cleanse, as opposed to the psyllium and bentonite one, is

that it provides faster results.

le Papageorgiou

www.Shaklee.net/jonanddanielle

www.YeastRemedies.com

> http://www.wholeapproach.com/

> Next, eliminate colon toxicity. This can be accomplished by using two

> natural agents, Psyllium and Bentonite. Neither one is absorbed into the

> system, but rather, each absorbs and then expels toxic materials in the

> feces.

>

> Psyllium (pronounced " silly-um " ) is a seed, grown commercially in India.

> Its husk is used as a bulk forming laxative in numerous products, and

> Constance Kies, PhD, in a 1982 issue of Prevention wrote, " As it absorbs

> water in the digestive tract, the Psyllium expands, stimulating and

> speeding up elimination. " Psyllium also looks as though it is a

> cholesterol fighter, as Kies found in an experiment with healthy

> volunteers whose cholesterol levels dropped, on average, from 193 to 168

> when they added Psyllium to their customary diets.

>

> Gastroenterologist Jack D. Welsh, MD at the University of Oklahoma Health

> Sciences Center, noted in the June, 1982 edition of the American Journal

> of Clinical Nutrition that Psyllium entirely prevented the expected gas

> pain and nausea. If Psyllium seed powder is added to the husk powder in

> the proper ratio, the preparation becomes an intestinal cleanser. The

> Psyllium seed fragments are very hard; they tend to scrape away at the

> toxic plaguing on the walls and clean it away over a period of months.

>

> Bentonite, a volcanic ash, acts toward toxic material as fly paper does

> with flies when processed into a very fine liquid suspension. The unique

> properties of Bentonite were reported in the Medical ls of the

> District of Columbia in June of 1961 by Frederick Damrau, MD, who

> established that Bentonite adsorbs toxins, bacteria, and viruses both in

> laboratory dishes and in humans. Because Bentonite, itself, is not

> absorbed, whatever it adsorbs is removed in the feces. This includes

> miscellaneous intestinal poisons and toxins generated by Candida

> albicans.

>

> The restoration of proper colon hygiene using this method takes anywhere

> from three to 24 months, depending on the age and condition of the

> individual. Caprylic acid can be added to help reduce the Candida

> albicans. Its anti fungal properties were the subject of a 1961 Japanese

> study at the Niigata University School of Medicine and were reported in

> the Japanese Journal of Microbiology: " ....the fungicidal effect of

> Caprylic acid on C. albicans was exceedingly powerful. " It was also noted

> in journal, " Caprylic acid exhibits the most remarkable fungiastatic and

> fungicidal properties of all the normal saturated fatty acids with even

> numbered carbon atoms studied. The fungicidal activity of Caprylic acid

> depends upon the concentration of the acid, the period of contact, and

> the pH of the media. "

>

> Traditional Caprylic acid preparations exist as capsules or tablets, but

> the one we prefer is liquid Caproyl. This was designed to take advantage

> of other health benefits of olive oil and to interact with the Psyllium

> to amplify its fungicidal effects far beyond what Caprylic acid has

> traditionally offered. We recommend that liquid Caprylic acid be mixed

> with the Psyllium powder, Bentonite, and water to be taken orally once or

> twice daily.

>

> As the Psyllium gel presses up against the intestinal walls, some unique

> and beneficial things occur:

> the liquid Caprylic acid is released into the intestinal wall at a rate

> determined by the gel, not by the intestinal pH conditions, which vary

> widely among individuals. Consequently, results are predictable;

> consistent, and favorable. Caprylic acid is slowly released through the

> entire length of the intestinal tract.

> As the gel rubs itself against the intestinal wall, it acts as a paint

> brush in delivering the liquid Caprylic acid to the intestinal wall. Not

> a square millimeter of wall is missed through the entire length of the

> intestines.

> Because the Candida albicans micro-organisms are buried deep into the

> toxic accumulations on the intestinal walls, access to them is difficult.

> But the bulking action of the gel forcibly rubs liquid Caprylic acid into

> the filth and onto the Candida.

> Liquid Caprylic acid, dispersed in a Psyllium gel, will rid most people

> of major yeast symptoms in three to eight weeks. If these people really

> want to improve their health, however, or merely stay well, they will

> need to continue to eradicate the originating site and cause of the

> problem. They will need to clean up their intestinal environment. While

> other colon cleansers may be touted, we know that over a period of many

> months, using the Psyllium/Bentonite mixture once or twice daily and

> adding the liquid Caprylic acid every fourth week for five consecutive

> days will clean out a colon and keep the Candida in check.

>

April 24, 2006

does Shaklee have colon cleanse?

-P

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:30:32 -0400 le Papageorgiou

<jpapadpapa@...> writes: