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That is interesting because in the past 2 years I have been sick I

have had bouts of vaginal burning. Each time I was tested repeatedly

for urinary tract infection and that would come out negative every

time. I wonder if it is candida. It is not as bad as it used to be,

but a few months ago I tried a small amount of DMSA and the vaginal

burning came back for about a month (and again I tested negative for

UTI).

I wonder where candida cleansing lies in the order of cleansing--Does

anyone know. Is it something one should always be working on. I had

heard that metals should be worked on before candida?

Also, someone asked what my symptoms were in relation to the parasite

post. I have a number of general neuro symptoms (blurred vision,

numb, stiff, brain fog, fatigue). I have no particular reason to

suspect that I have parasites but I was under the impression

parasites should be done with a colon cleanse. Plus, I know someone

who had improvement from parasite cleansing. Hence I have been

looking into it.

>

> I did an internet search on Candida and burning, and the things that

> came up were what I expected...burning in the mouth, which is from

> Thrush, and burning in the urinary tract and vagina, which is what

we

> get from infections there that are candida related.

>

> I am not clear about the burning feeling all over...but I do know

that

> women on our support group have suffered from it. They've mentioned

it

> is like fire in their bones, or hotness coursing through their

veins.

> This is more than likely a condition associated with neuropathy.

>

> Neuropathy also causes the hands and feet to burn and be painful.

> It is an irritation of the nerve endings. There can be numbness and

> tingling as well.

>

> I've had the tingling and numbness in the past, but no longer. It

has

> healed and I believe that those with neuropathy don't have to live

with

> it forever, with the right steps taken to reduce stressors in your

life

> and eat a healthy diet.

>

> Here is a great article on it:

> http://www.taoofwellness.com/newsletters/touch.htm

>

> The Touch of Life and Healing

>

> The importance of tactile sense for health and natural solutions for

> neuropathy

>

> By Maoshing Ni

>

> Touch of Life and HealingDid you know that orphaned babies stop

growing

> and even die from the lack of touch and love? Similarly, researchers

> have long observed that unconscious patients who are regularly

touched

> recover faster than those who do not receive touch. I can confirm

this

> through my own personal experience of being in a coma for a month,

after

> an accidental fall from the rooftop of our three-story house when I

was

> a kid. The loving touch from my parents kept me alive and fighting

for

> my life. So, touch literally saved my life.

>

> Snuggle, cuddle, hug - it's good for you

>

> Human touch is an essential part of our health and well-being.

> Throughout the ages, hands-on healing has been recognized as a

powerful

> therapeutic technique. Human touch elicits elevated production of

> endorphins, growth hormone, and DHEA, all of which lengthen your

life

> span. Touch also lowers levels of stress hormones which can shorten

your

> life. If you want to improve the quality and length of your life,

heart

> felt touch is the way to achieve this. Grandparents cuddling their

> grandchildren, friends hugging one another, and spouses snuggling

up to

> each other all achieve this beneficial effect.

>

> The stress of losing your sense of touch causes loss of tactile

sense.

>

> Touch is not only important for the receiver—it is equally important

> for the giver. So, what happens when you lose your sense of touch or

> suffer from neurological damage? How do you overcome or make up for

that

> loss of tactile sense? The loss of normal tactile sense may appear

as

> symptoms of numbness, tingling or burning pain. The first thing you

will

> want to do is look at the medication or substances you are taking.

Some

> types of medications can cause peripheral nerve damage such as

> chemotherapy drugs, hormonal blockers or drugs to treat Parkinson

> disease, while other seemingly benign substances like alcohol,

nicotine

> and diuretics can also diminish tactile function. The next step is

to go

> to your internist and rule out a more serious neurological disease

or

> cancer. There are many conditions that may lead to a loss of tactile

> senses, ranging from diabetic neuropathy, multiple sclerosis, brain

or

> spine cancer, to carpal tunnel syndrome, shingles and panic attacks.

>

> Natural help to get you back in touch

>

> Once you determine the cause of your condition, a plan of action is

> necessary to start healing your tactile functions. Begin by

avoiding the

> medications and substances that cause or aggravate it. Obviously in

some

> cases these medications are a necessary part of a treatment

protocol and

> cannot be discontinued, but in other cases they can. Look to your

diet

> for natural healing agents.

>

> Foods that help nerve regeneration and reduce inflammation include:

>

> papaya, pineapple, cherry, grape, blueberry, dried plums, avocado,

> Shiitake mushroom, asparagus, fish or flax seed oil, seaweed, and

spices

> like cayenne pepper, turmeric and ginger.

>

> Foods that aggravate numbness include:

>

> alcohol, caffeine, sugar, deep fried fatty foods, red meat, dairy

> products, and icy-cold beverages and foods.

>

> Supplements that are helpful for nerve regeneration efforts include:

> vitamin B1, lecithin, chromium picolinate, and vitamin E.

>

> Gentle mind-body exercise

>

> Mind-Body exercise, including Chi Gong and Tai Chi has been found

to be

> beneficial for restoring normal neurological functions. Studies have

> confirmed Chi Gong and Tai Chi's physiological effects, which

include

> measurable changes in EEG of the brain, EMG of nerve conduction,

> respiratory movement, heart rate, skin potential, skin temperature

and

> finger tip volume, sympathetic nerve function, function in stomach

and

> intestine, metabolism, endocrine and immunity systems. In a

nutshell,

> these deep breathing, mind-calming meditative exercises are among

the

> most powerful self-healing techniques that help you balance and

restore

> your health naturally.

>

> Acupuncture helps neuropathy

>

> Over the years the doctors at Tao of Wellness have treated many

patients

> with varying forms of neuropathy. Side effects from chemotherapy

drugs,

> viral infections, post-surgical damage and diabetes are just a few

> conditions that can result in neuropathy and have been treated by

our

> practitioners. The growing number of research studies focused on the

> treatment of neuropathy with acupuncture point to what we have

already

> witnessed over the years in our clinic—acupuncture works incredibly

> well at treating neuropathy. Please refer to our website if you

wish to

> read some of these studies.

>

> The invisible touch that connects people

>

> Tactile touch is one of the five senses, it is the sense that most

gives

> us the feeling of being connected with others. That connectedness

and

> sense of belonging, brings us joy and opens our hearts and minds.

Just

> as we seek to create a healthy, positive, flowing environment in our

> bodies and our homes, building a human community with similar

> characteristics will benefit our lives. Being surrounded by family,

> friends, and associates who are loving, uplifting, and helpful to

your

> well-being can add years to your life. If you seek health and

longevity,

> surround yourself with people who are supportive and share positive

> values, and above all please remember to snuggle, cuddle and

> hug—it's good for you!

> Newsletter Home

>

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Hi ,

Your symptoms all sound like they are candida related. I would suggest

that you read Bee's website at www.healingnaturallybybee.com. The diet

is so detoxifying in itself that you don't have to do other

treatments. I also wrote to her about the burning and she reasures me

that it is a healing reaction and that it will go away. Meanwhile I am

going to lower the dose of the coconut oil (powerful candida cleanser)

and also the dose of the vitamin B's. The niacin in it may be causing

too much blood flow to the areas where I am getting the burning. It is

so scary because I fear that I have permanent nerve damage, but she

assures me that this diet even heals MS. I am going to have to trust

that this is all in the name of healing and trust God, of course.

Joanne

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When I was at my sickest, I occassionally had vaginal itching/burning

and the relief I obtained was by using a tea tree oil douche. It

worked wonders. I gave up using the creams altogether. Have you

tried this?

To make a tea tree oil douche solution, you mix 1 teaspoon of tea tree

oil into 2 cups of water. This therapy was given to me by Dr. Kolb,

by the way, and we've had women on our group rave about its

effectiveness for a yeast infection. It's so refreshing.

As for the UTI's I had those as well, but I always tested positive for

bacteria in my urine. One question , you mentioned both vaginal

burning and a UTI infection...did they culture the vagina and also

test the urine separately at the same time? You can have two

different things going on there. Most doctors will assume that a

vaginal infection is fungal in nature and give you the fungal creams,

while the UTI is usually bacterial in nature.

It's odd that you didn't show anything though.

Once I had a longstanding vaginal infection that my OB/GYN just kept

handing me creams for. It went on for MONTHS and months, until

finally I just found a new doctor. She cultured my vagina and found I

had a bacterial infection--strep! All those antifungal creams were a

waste of time, because I needed an antibiotic!

When trying to get better, there are some that will insist that there

needs to be an order to cleansing, though I am not sure what that

order would be because I didn't really follow one myself. I just did

what I felt I needed to do at the time...what I could afford, what I

could handle on my own...and seeing a naturopath didn't reveal any

" order " either.

My very first naturopath did not treat me for candida, though I was

really sick and had all of the symptoms you mention. He suggested

removing amalgams, which I did, followed by chelation therapy. Prior

to that, he had supervised fasting and colonics for me as the first

part of my " program. " The fasts were very effective.

I think candida is somewhat overestimated and seen as the culprit in

many cases where it may not be; however, I think it is important to

treat for it and try to rid yourself of any overabundance of the

fungus early in any illness. Untreated candida infections can allow

the fungus to mutate into much more virile mycelial forms and so you

definitely want to address it if you've never treated for it. Candida

is actually present in every human body...so you will never get rid of

it...only bring it under control.

There are some very strict diets to follow, which I have never really

done. I found that they were very, very difficult to follow, but

Bee's site has made it creative!

The only thing I did was take caprylic acid in the large doses

suggested in the book Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia--3600 mg daily

for at least 2 weeks, along with a generally healthy diet that focuses

on getting rid of sugars and eating probiotic foods such as fermented

vegetables, yougurt and kefir that are high in live bacterial

cultures. With a diet high in probiotics and low in sugars that feed

yeasts, you will get your intestinal flora under control.

Patty

> >

> > I did an internet search on Candida and burning, and the things that

> > came up were what I expected...burning in the mouth, which is from

> > Thrush, and burning in the urinary tract and vagina, which is what

> we

> > get from infections there that are candida related.

> >

> > I am not clear about the burning feeling all over...but I do know

> that

> > women on our support group have suffered from it. They've mentioned

> it

> > is like fire in their bones, or hotness coursing through their

> veins.

> > This is more than likely a condition associated with neuropathy.

> >

> > Neuropathy also causes the hands and feet to burn and be painful.

> > It is an irritation of the nerve endings. There can be numbness and

> > tingling as well.

> >

> > I've had the tingling and numbness in the past, but no longer. It

> has

> > healed and I believe that those with neuropathy don't have to live

> with

> > it forever, with the right steps taken to reduce stressors in your

> life

> > and eat a healthy diet.

> >

> > Here is a great article on it:

> > http://www.taoofwellness.com/newsletters/touch.htm

> >

> > The Touch of Life and Healing

> >

> > The importance of tactile sense for health and natural solutions for

> > neuropathy

> >

> > By Maoshing Ni

> >

> > Touch of Life and HealingDid you know that orphaned babies stop

> growing

> > and even die from the lack of touch and love? Similarly, researchers

> > have long observed that unconscious patients who are regularly

> touched

> > recover faster than those who do not receive touch. I can confirm

> this

> > through my own personal experience of being in a coma for a month,

> after

> > an accidental fall from the rooftop of our three-story house when I

> was

> > a kid. The loving touch from my parents kept me alive and fighting

> for

> > my life. So, touch literally saved my life.

> >

> > Snuggle, cuddle, hug - it's good for you

> >

> > Human touch is an essential part of our health and well-being.

> > Throughout the ages, hands-on healing has been recognized as a

> powerful

> > therapeutic technique. Human touch elicits elevated production of

> > endorphins, growth hormone, and DHEA, all of which lengthen your

> life

> > span. Touch also lowers levels of stress hormones which can shorten

> your

> > life. If you want to improve the quality and length of your life,

> heart

> > felt touch is the way to achieve this. Grandparents cuddling their

> > grandchildren, friends hugging one another, and spouses snuggling

> up to

> > each other all achieve this beneficial effect.

> >

> > The stress of losing your sense of touch causes loss of tactile

> sense.

> >

> > Touch is not only important for the receiver—it is equally important

> > for the giver. So, what happens when you lose your sense of touch or

> > suffer from neurological damage? How do you overcome or make up for

> that

> > loss of tactile sense? The loss of normal tactile sense may appear

> as

> > symptoms of numbness, tingling or burning pain. The first thing you

> will

> > want to do is look at the medication or substances you are taking.

> Some

> > types of medications can cause peripheral nerve damage such as

> > chemotherapy drugs, hormonal blockers or drugs to treat Parkinson

> > disease, while other seemingly benign substances like alcohol,

> nicotine

> > and diuretics can also diminish tactile function. The next step is

> to go

> > to your internist and rule out a more serious neurological disease

> or

> > cancer. There are many conditions that may lead to a loss of tactile

> > senses, ranging from diabetic neuropathy, multiple sclerosis, brain

> or

> > spine cancer, to carpal tunnel syndrome, shingles and panic attacks.

> >

> > Natural help to get you back in touch

> >

> > Once you determine the cause of your condition, a plan of action is

> > necessary to start healing your tactile functions. Begin by

> avoiding the

> > medications and substances that cause or aggravate it. Obviously in

> some

> > cases these medications are a necessary part of a treatment

> protocol and

> > cannot be discontinued, but in other cases they can. Look to your

> diet

> > for natural healing agents.

> >

> > Foods that help nerve regeneration and reduce inflammation include:

> >

> > papaya, pineapple, cherry, grape, blueberry, dried plums, avocado,

> > Shiitake mushroom, asparagus, fish or flax seed oil, seaweed, and

> spices

> > like cayenne pepper, turmeric and ginger.

> >

> > Foods that aggravate numbness include:

> >

> > alcohol, caffeine, sugar, deep fried fatty foods, red meat, dairy

> > products, and icy-cold beverages and foods.

> >

> > Supplements that are helpful for nerve regeneration efforts include:

> > vitamin B1, lecithin, chromium picolinate, and vitamin E.

> >

> > Gentle mind-body exercise

> >

> > Mind-Body exercise, including Chi Gong and Tai Chi has been found

> to be

> > beneficial for restoring normal neurological functions. Studies have

> > confirmed Chi Gong and Tai Chi's physiological effects, which

> include

> > measurable changes in EEG of the brain, EMG of nerve conduction,

> > respiratory movement, heart rate, skin potential, skin temperature

> and

> > finger tip volume, sympathetic nerve function, function in stomach

> and

> > intestine, metabolism, endocrine and immunity systems. In a

> nutshell,

> > these deep breathing, mind-calming meditative exercises are among

> the

> > most powerful self-healing techniques that help you balance and

> restore

> > your health naturally.

> >

> > Acupuncture helps neuropathy

> >

> > Over the years the doctors at Tao of Wellness have treated many

> patients

> > with varying forms of neuropathy. Side effects from chemotherapy

> drugs,

> > viral infections, post-surgical damage and diabetes are just a few

> > conditions that can result in neuropathy and have been treated by

> our

> > practitioners. The growing number of research studies focused on the

> > treatment of neuropathy with acupuncture point to what we have

> already

> > witnessed over the years in our clinic—acupuncture works incredibly

> > well at treating neuropathy. Please refer to our website if you

> wish to

> > read some of these studies.

> >

> > The invisible touch that connects people

> >

> > Tactile touch is one of the five senses, it is the sense that most

> gives

> > us the feeling of being connected with others. That connectedness

> and

> > sense of belonging, brings us joy and opens our hearts and minds.

> Just

> > as we seek to create a healthy, positive, flowing environment in our

> > bodies and our homes, building a human community with similar

> > characteristics will benefit our lives. Being surrounded by family,

> > friends, and associates who are loving, uplifting, and helpful to

> your

> > well-being can add years to your life. If you seek health and

> longevity,

> > surround yourself with people who are supportive and share positive

> > values, and above all please remember to snuggle, cuddle and

> > hug—it's good for you!

> > Newsletter Home

> >

>

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Heeeeeeeeeck no, Patty ~

My VJJ has always been in great shape !

Never had any type of infection at all, ever................

not even from taking anti-biotics......I have been very

fortunate.

I just thought it was kind of funny, and you know me, I

had to post it ! ! ......but for those with chronic yeast

infections, it may just be the ticket........

Just like kefir enema's but for this gentleman

that did them, he cured himself........I wish I had

the website about the kefir enemas......it was a

great article......

Can you imagine putting something in your VJJ

and tasting it in your mouth.......hum..........

I cant, but its been so long I have cob-webs....

LOL.....thats ok, for now anyway........there is no

special other........or room for one right now...

Hugs ~ Dede

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I did the chelation therapy through my naturopath...he started me with

a DMPS shot as a challenge test to see what I was dumping. When it was

determined that I was dumping mercury and arsenic, he put me on a

round of DMSA pills that were compounded at a compounding pharmacy.

We did that for 30 days...I think they were 50 mg DMSA pills. I did

it more than once, after my first test after doing the round showed

reduced metals, and my naturopath was content with the results, but I

said I wanted to do one more round if there was any mercury left at

all. Zero was the goal!

Chelation therapy has to be done carefully, as the agent will stir up

the metals and move them around in your body. One doctor I know what

doing it wrong...I called them to talk about how they administered

their DMSA and they said they gave 500 mg pills, which in my mind

seemed risky. I researched chelation therapy heavily and continued to

do it on my own after I moved away from my naturopath.

From what I understood, from Andy Cutler's protocol, it is preferable

to take only take small amounts of DMSA at one time, and take it every

4 hours for a period of several days, then take a break, of as many

days or more, and then do the DMSA again every 4 hours for several

days. According to him, this keeps the heavy metals from being moved

around in the body to the brain. Andy Cutler is a PhD chemist and his

protocol can be found on the net. I believe he also claims Alpha

Lipoic Acid is a mild chelator of metals, and he gives a protocol for

that as well.

I do know that there are people who have taken the DMPS shots and

suffered. There are other chelating agents as well, such as EDTA,

which are given intravenously, and I've heard good things about it,

but what agent you are given will depend on what metals you test high

in.

Ending up in a wheelchair from not addressing heavy metals sounds

plausible if she was heavily toxic, but I am not so sure that it is

because she did a candida diet before cleansing the metals? I'm

wondering how she would know that?

I do think if someone is toxic from metals it is important to take

steps to remove that toxicity. There are several ways to do it...DMSA

pills is one, and high doses of Vitamin C is also a mild chelator, as

is cilantro and garlic...infrared saunas also detox heavy

metals...alpha lipoic acid....it is a subject that is definitely a

concern to address.

What will you be doing?

Patty

>

> Thanks Patty and Joanne for the information. I will go through Bee's

> diet. Also to Patty, I was curious as to what type of chelation therapy

> you did? I have heard (only from one person though) that it is

> important to address metals before candida, otherwise the candida

> (which the metals/mercury are attached to) dies off leaving the metal

> ((usually mercury) to be free in the body and do even more damage. The

> one woman I know says this is what put her in a wheelchair, or so she

> believes. So hence I have always been scared to go after candida too

> much until I feel I have addressed metals. So again, I was curious as

> to what type of chelation you did.

>

> As to the vaginal burning thing, I was only separately tested with a

> culture swab to the vagina once, and that had a negative result. My

> symptoms most always mimicked UTIs and hence I guess that is why they

> kept testing for that, and as noted before it always came back negative-

> -except actually one time the doc said there was " a little bit of

> bacteria " at which time I just used colloidal silver and it seemed to

> resolve on its own. Thankfully I have not had the vaginal burning in a

> few months now.

>

>

>

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Wow, Dede, have you ever tried this?

I think I would be nervous about putting a clove of garlic in my

vagina, even intact! I know that garlic is a tremendously effective

antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral agent, and I have no qualms

about eating it raw.

I'd love to hear from someone who has tried this. I find the tea tree

oil very refreshing. Haven't had to use it for years now, but when I

had infections while sick it worked wonders.

It's odd how the body will suffer various forms of infection when we

are so sick from implants...the vaginal infections and kidney/UTI

infections were practically nonexistent to me before implants, but in

that window of my life when I was so sick they were frequent. I had

never once had a kidney or UTI infection prior to implants. I had a

vaginal infection that needed an antibiotic once prior to implants.

I never get UTI infections or vaginal infections anymore now that I

have been healed for some time. It's a thing of the past, thank God.

Anyone who tries the garlic in the vagina is a brave woman in my book!

Patty

>

> How to Treat a Vaginal Infection with a Clove of Garlic - by Judy

Slome

> Cohain, CNM

> http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/garlic.asp

> I only posted some of the info, for the full article, click on

> the link, or copy and paste into your browser...

>

> Garlic kills yeast ~

> Take a clove of fresh garlic and peel off the natural white paper

shell that

> covers it, leaving the clove intact. At bedtime, put the clove into the

> vagina. In the morning, remove the garlic clove and throw it in the

toilet. The

> garlic often causes the vagina to have a watery discharge. One

night's treatment

> may be enough to kill the infection, or it might have to be repeated

the next

> night. Continue one or two days until all itchiness is gone. The

reason that

> the treatment is done at bedtime is that there is a connection

between the

> mouth and the vagina. The moment the garlic is placed in the vagina,

the taste of

> the garlic travels up to the mouth.

>

> Garlic has been shown in vitro (in laboratory petri dishes) to kill

bacteria

> also. In some important research done in China (1), garlic was shown to

> inhibit the growth of all of the following microorganisms:

Escherichia coli,

> Salmonella typhimurium, Vibrio parahaemolyticus, Pseudomonas

aeruginosa, Proteus

> vulgaris, Staphylococcus aureus, Mycobacterium phlei, Streptococcus

faecalis,

> Bacillus cereus and Micrococcus luteus.

>

> Researchers found that garlic lost its antibacterial activities

within 20

> minutes of being boiled at 100° C. At the Maxwell Finland Laboratory

for

> Infectious Diseases in the Boston Medical Center, researchers

examined the use of

> garlic for ear infections (2). They found that fresh garlic was

bacteriocidal,

> killing even the dangerous bacterium Streptococcus agalactiae

(commonly known as

> Group B Strep) but is heat- and acid-labile and loses activity when

cooked or

> taken by mouth.

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