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Hi Cassie,

Welcome to our group. I am sorry to hear that you got silicone gel

breast implants recently. It sounds like you reacted quite soon after

the surgery, and I am assuming that you really have not seen any

improvement in your symptoms at all in the time frames you've mentioned.

Actually, your story sounds like mine, though I had saline implants

(with a silicone shell.)

I firmly believe that my reactions were due to my implants. I had them

removed and I got better over a period of time.

I also had thought it was an ear problem at first, and saw an ENT

specialist. He couldn't help me. He was concerned, but he found

nothing that would explain my brain fog and dizziness.

In fact, no doctors could help me find any explanation for what was

happening. It wasn't until I turned my back on the allopathic medical

field and went with alternative medicine that I was able to get my body

back to a state of health, or as close to it as I could get it.

I don't know if it is the anesthesia that is causing the troubles after

implant surgery....in that case, many people who undergo various

surgeries would have similar complaints. I am glad you are a medical

student...I hope you will continue to research this issue carefully. I

think you will find that there is a complicated orchestra between the

immune system and the hormones (endocrine system) that has been

disrupted due to the presence of the silicone. If you do research in the

medical databases, you will see that silicone has been implicated in

alot of autoimmune conditions.

My proof that it was my implants was the fact that I got better when

they were removed. I detoxed my body with various therapies, and did

not have to use drugs, with the exception of thyroid medication for my

Hashimoto's that was diagnosed in 2002. Yes, an autoimmune disease that

has no history whatsoever in my family. No one has any thyroid disease

ever, except me.

I was extremely sick with fatigue, muscle twitches, vision changes, the

mild joint pain, brain fog and cognitive issues and the feeling of

malaise...the same things you are complaining of.

My best advice for you is to view your implants as suspect, but do not

rely on the medical field to support your views, as they do not for the

most part. The reason for this group is exactly because we have not

received help from anyone else, and we had to forge our own path through

to healing. It's been a long haul, but we've seen many, many women

successfully regain a good measure of health following natural healing

principles.

Please read our stories from women who have been successful, to give you

hope and helpful information. Removing the implants seems to be very

necessary...I've not heard of anyone who has successfully kept them,

except perhaps Dr. Kolb in Atlanta, Georgia. She is a plastic

surgeon who got sick from her implants, and went on to train in holistic

medicine and she keeps herself as healthy as she can through detoxing

and homeopathics and natural medicine therapies. I would highly

recommend that you contact her for more information.

Her website is www.plastikos.com

She also is involved in educating medical professionals on the dangers

of silicone through Hadcorp.

http://www.orgsites.com/fl/adjuvantdisease/

Take care and best wishes for health...you have just embarked on a new

journey that I think you will find enlightening.

Patty

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> Hello everyone, my name is Cassie and I'm new to this group. I had

> silicone breast implants about 9 months ago, and beginning 2 weeks

> after getting them, started to feel dizzy.

> Most doctors thought this to be an ear problem and treated me for

> that. I have also experienced other symptoms such as:

>

> extreme fatigue

> vision changes (halos at night, ghost images)

> muscle twitches

> mild joint pain

> heart palpitations

> a feeling of constant imbalance and fogginess

>

> I have been tested for so many things including autoimmune and

> everything has come back normal. All blood tests normal and MRI of

> brain also normal. My ENT suspects that I have a presumptive case of

> Meniere's disease (relating to the ear), but that doesn't explain

> fatigue, or heart and muscle issues at all.

> I'm a 23 year old medical student and am beginning to wonder if any

> of this may have to do with my implants.

> I doubt that it would be due to rupture since symptoms began only 2

> weeks following my surgery however I'm really starting to wonder if

> there is a correlation.

> I don't believe everything I read online, and I really don't believe

> that implants can be a firm causative agent for disease. However with

> the medical knowledge I currently have, I know that anesthesia can do

> some funny things to the body for some time.

> I was wondering if any other women have had any of these issues and

> what you've decided to do about them?

> Has anyone left their implants in and seen improvement?

> Removing my implants would be a HUGE decision and I want to be sure

> and do my research first.

>

> Any replies would be GREATLY appreciated.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from all of you

>

> Cassie

>

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Hi Cassie,

I got saline implants about 3.5 years ago, and within a week or two

started having the same symptoms that you're having, and had a few

others such as numb fingers and toes, and digestive issues. I've

had anesthesia a number of other times and never had any problems

with it, so I did not feel that was the cause of my problem. I also

had alot of tests performed and everything turned out normal, but I

was not normal by any means.

I had my implants removed after six months because it seemed like I

just continued to get sicker and sicker, and I didn't want them in

my body if I wasn't sure about their safety. I have improved since

I had them removed, although I don't know if I'll ever be 100%

recovered. I'm just happy to be better than I was.

Being a medical student, remember one thing - not everyone is a

textbook case. There are many of us with the same or similar

symptoms who all have one common denominator - we all had implants.

There was a time when science was in our corner and wanted to find

out what was causing us to be ill after we got implants, but all it

took was one study to say that implants and illness are not related,

and we were no longer on anyone's radar screen.

Sis

> >

> > Hello everyone, my name is Cassie and I'm new to this group. I

had

> > silicone breast implants about 9 months ago, and beginning 2

weeks

> > after getting them, started to feel dizzy.

> > Most doctors thought this to be an ear problem and treated me for

> > that. I have also experienced other symptoms such as:

> >

> > extreme fatigue

> > vision changes (halos at night, ghost images)

> > muscle twitches

> > mild joint pain

> > heart palpitations

> > a feeling of constant imbalance and fogginess

> >

> > I have been tested for so many things including autoimmune and

> > everything has come back normal. All blood tests normal and MRI

of

> > brain also normal. My ENT suspects that I have a presumptive

case of

> > Meniere's disease (relating to the ear), but that doesn't explain

> > fatigue, or heart and muscle issues at all.

> > I'm a 23 year old medical student and am beginning to wonder if

any

> > of this may have to do with my implants.

> > I doubt that it would be due to rupture since symptoms began

only 2

> > weeks following my surgery however I'm really starting to wonder

if

> > there is a correlation.

> > I don't believe everything I read online, and I really don't

believe

> > that implants can be a firm causative agent for disease. However

with

> > the medical knowledge I currently have, I know that anesthesia

can do

> > some funny things to the body for some time.

> > I was wondering if any other women have had any of these issues

and

> > what you've decided to do about them?

> > Has anyone left their implants in and seen improvement?

> > Removing my implants would be a HUGE decision and I want to be

sure

> > and do my research first.

> >

> > Any replies would be GREATLY appreciated.

> >

> > Looking forward to hearing from all of you

> >

> > Cassie

> >

>

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Has anyone looked into anxiety/stress disorder? I noticed these symptoms

started

happening once I began thinking about getting breast implants.

Do these same symptoms occur with people with new hips? 99% of all implants

(hips,

knuckles, etc.) are made of silicone.

I do have depression and read that women who do have implants have a tendency to

have

some sort of mental problem.

> > >

> > > Hello everyone, my name is Cassie and I'm new to this group. I

> had

> > > silicone breast implants about 9 months ago, and beginning 2

> weeks

> > > after getting them, started to feel dizzy.

> > > Most doctors thought this to be an ear problem and treated me for

> > > that. I have also experienced other symptoms such as:

> > >

> > > extreme fatigue

> > > vision changes (halos at night, ghost images)

> > > muscle twitches

> > > mild joint pain

> > > heart palpitations

> > > a feeling of constant imbalance and fogginess

> > >

> > > I have been tested for so many things including autoimmune and

> > > everything has come back normal. All blood tests normal and MRI

> of

> > > brain also normal. My ENT suspects that I have a presumptive

> case of

> > > Meniere's disease (relating to the ear), but that doesn't explain

> > > fatigue, or heart and muscle issues at all.

> > > I'm a 23 year old medical student and am beginning to wonder if

> any

> > > of this may have to do with my implants.

> > > I doubt that it would be due to rupture since symptoms began

> only 2

> > > weeks following my surgery however I'm really starting to wonder

> if

> > > there is a correlation.

> > > I don't believe everything I read online, and I really don't

> believe

> > > that implants can be a firm causative agent for disease. However

> with

> > > the medical knowledge I currently have, I know that anesthesia

> can do

> > > some funny things to the body for some time.

> > > I was wondering if any other women have had any of these issues

> and

> > > what you've decided to do about them?

> > > Has anyone left their implants in and seen improvement?

> > > Removing my implants would be a HUGE decision and I want to be

> sure

> > > and do my research first.

> > >

> > > Any replies would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > >

> > > Looking forward to hearing from all of you

> > >

> > > Cassie

> > >

> >

>

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Hi there and welcome,

Yes, we've had many women who have had anxiety, stress, and panic

attacks associated with implants. The question that seems to be

missed is what is exactly causing the panic disorder to begin with.

Many women never had panic attacks before they got implants, and

sometimes outside infuences are sought for blaming, but the truth is

that implants themselves present a form of stress on the body. It is

a foreign object that the immune system fights 24/7 and therefore

creates an atmosphere of " stress " inside the body, regardless of what

is happening externally.

If you do the research and look in our files, we have evidence that

yes, these same symptoms do occur with people with implanted medical

devices, including Norplant, knuckles, hips, shunts, testicular

implants, penile implants, knee replacements, cheek implants, chin

implants, and more. (Who would have ever thought up buttock implants

and calf implants? And yet, they are available.)

My mother has knee replacements in both knees and within a year or so

of getting them, she was having new symptoms of immune dysfunction.

She has been diagnosed at various times with connective tissue

disorder, fibromyalgia, and heart arythmias, and she is on plaquenil

amongst other drugs. It breaks my heart to see her going through

this. I got my breast implants out and got better...she can never get

her knee replacements out.

Aaaaah, you've read the " nuts and slutz " study I guess. I really

don't believe that women who get implants have a tendency toward

mental disorders. That was just written because of the women who get

sick and then are called hypochondriacs because nobody believes how

sick they are. We've been down that road. Doctors have mistreated

patients with implants for decades. No, they are not all mental cases.

I am sorry you are going through depression...I got depression AFTER I

got implants and got sick, and once they were removed, it cleared up.

Tell us, do you have implants now? If so, what kind of implants?

How long? Are you sick, other than the depression?

Patty

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone, my name is Cassie and I'm new to this group. I

> > had

> > > > silicone breast implants about 9 months ago, and beginning 2

> > weeks

> > > > after getting them, started to feel dizzy.

> > > > Most doctors thought this to be an ear problem and treated me for

> > > > that. I have also experienced other symptoms such as:

> > > >

> > > > extreme fatigue

> > > > vision changes (halos at night, ghost images)

> > > > muscle twitches

> > > > mild joint pain

> > > > heart palpitations

> > > > a feeling of constant imbalance and fogginess

> > > >

> > > > I have been tested for so many things including autoimmune and

> > > > everything has come back normal. All blood tests normal and MRI

> > of

> > > > brain also normal. My ENT suspects that I have a presumptive

> > case of

> > > > Meniere's disease (relating to the ear), but that doesn't explain

> > > > fatigue, or heart and muscle issues at all.

> > > > I'm a 23 year old medical student and am beginning to wonder if

> > any

> > > > of this may have to do with my implants.

> > > > I doubt that it would be due to rupture since symptoms began

> > only 2

> > > > weeks following my surgery however I'm really starting to wonder

> > if

> > > > there is a correlation.

> > > > I don't believe everything I read online, and I really don't

> > believe

> > > > that implants can be a firm causative agent for disease. However

> > with

> > > > the medical knowledge I currently have, I know that anesthesia

> > can do

> > > > some funny things to the body for some time.

> > > > I was wondering if any other women have had any of these issues

> > and

> > > > what you've decided to do about them?

> > > > Has anyone left their implants in and seen improvement?

> > > > Removing my implants would be a HUGE decision and I want to be

> > sure

> > > > and do my research first.

> > > >

> > > > Any replies would be GREATLY appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Looking forward to hearing from all of you

> > > >

> > > > Cassie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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