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Ask for therapeutic phlebotomy. It's is effectively blood donation to

lower the red blood cells.

Brad

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> About a year ago I had my annual tests by my urologist and was told I

> was just about at the limit for either producing too much blood or

> cells, or my blood was too thick. I don't remember exactly what the

> numbers were. Anyhow I am up for the test again in the next few weeks.

> He had told me at the time if my levels were any higher (blood) that

> he would take me off the testim. As we know this is the last thing I

> want. My question is how can I control those levels or lower them

> before the test. Thanks again for everyones help. Ody

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Thanks Brad. That seems to make good sense. Wish I could remember

the medical terms for what the doc had said, but i think you have a

handle on what I meant. Ody

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> > About a year ago I had my annual tests by my urologist and was

told I

> > was just about at the limit for either producing too much blood

or

> > cells, or my blood was too thick. I don't remember exactly what

the

> > numbers were. Anyhow I am up for the test again in the next few

weeks.

> > He had told me at the time if my levels were any higher (blood)

that

> > he would take me off the testim. As we know this is the last

thing I

> > want. My question is how can I control those levels or lower

them

> > before the test. Thanks again for everyones help. Ody

> >

>

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I had the same problem. My arthrisis doctor always complained about my

blood being to thick, I also beleive it lead to me having heart stents.

My doctor swithced me from gels to shots and my blood went back to

normal. Arthristis doctor said what ever you did keep it up.

Jack

>

> About a year ago I had my annual tests by my urologist and was told I

> was just about at the limit for either producing too much blood or

> cells, or my blood was too thick. I don't remember exactly what the

> numbers were. Anyhow I am up for the test again in the next few

weeks.

> He had told me at the time if my levels were any higher (blood) that

> he would take me off the testim. As we know this is the last thing I

> want. My question is how can I control those levels or lower them

> before the test. Thanks again for everyones help. Ody

>

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probably polycythemia

brad

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> > > About a year ago I had my annual tests by my urologist and was

> told I

> > > was just about at the limit for either producing too much blood

> or

> > > cells, or my blood was too thick. I don't remember exactly what

> the

> > > numbers were. Anyhow I am up for the test again in the next few

> weeks.

> > > He had told me at the time if my levels were any higher (blood)

> that

> > > he would take me off the testim. As we know this is the last

> thing I

> > > want. My question is how can I control those levels or lower

> them

> > > before the test. Thanks again for everyones help. Ody

> > >

> >

>

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Donate blood to the Red cross every 2 months. They want the extra red

blood cells you need to get rid of.

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> About a year ago I had my annual tests by my urologist and was told I

> was just about at the limit for either producing too much blood or

> cells, or my blood was too thick. I don't remember exactly what the

> numbers were. Anyhow I am up for the test again in the next few

weeks.

> He had told me at the time if my levels were any higher (blood) that

> he would take me off the testim. As we know this is the last thing I

> want. My question is how can I control those levels or lower them

> before the test. Thanks again for everyones help. Ody

>

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http://www.jigsawhealth.com/articles/thick-blood-causes.htmlThick Blood: Common Causes

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Certain

ethnic races (particularly Caucasian) may have a genetic predisposition

towards thick blood. Defects in the coagulation genes adversely affect

the capability of the body to turn off the switch that activates the

clotting process. These defects may also affect the body's ability to

clean up the fibrin deposits formed as a result of the clotting process.1 Thick

blood may also be caused by the presence of harmful pathogens such as

fungi, viruses, bacteria, and parasites. These pathogens can actually

activate a coagulation response in the body as a way to avoid being

attacked by the body's immune system.1

Soluble fibrin monomer (SFM), a clotting agent, lines the capillaries

with fibrin making it impossible to transfer oxygen and nutrients to

body tissues. A lack of oxygen and nutrients then creates an ideal

environment for these pathogens to survive and cause illness. The blood

must first be thinned to expose the pathogens before they can be

eradicated. Heavy metal toxicity

or exposure to environmental toxins can also activate unusual

production levels of soluble fibrin monomer (SFM). Stress and trauma

have also been known to cause thick blood. Additional Information about Thick Blood

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Great post Barb this should help.

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Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Thick Blood

>

> Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 3:17 PM

> First caveat, I am not a doctor, but

> have read/studied this when I myself was sent to a

> hematologist when my labs showed the condition.

>

> Red Blood Cells (RBC) need the following to be

> synthesized:  iron, B12, folate, optimal body temp

> (close to 98.6, meaning thyroid has to be working), and the

> hormone erythropoietin.  If anything is lacking, you

> cannot get erythrocytosis (mild elevation) or polycythemia

> vera (true disease state). 

>

> Testosterone, hydrocortisone, and thyroid are all known to

> affect the making of RBC.  Usually, any one of these

> components in excess can cause erythrocytosis.  You

> lower it, the thick blood goes down. 

>

> One of ' docs said to stop the iron.  But iron

> doesn't cause thick blood. Every single one of you had iron

> in your blood before you started the testosterone, but for

> some, it only became thick after you started TRT.  So

> the obvious culprit is the TRT, not the iron. 

>

> Hereditary hemochromatosis (HH) is a genetic, inherited

> disease where the body loads too much iron.  You do not

> " get " this from TRT.  However, too much iron in your

> blood can damage your organs, so periodic bloodletting is

> standard practice for anyone with HH.

>

> If you do NOT have HH and you donate blood all the time

> (more than twice a year), you risk depleting your iron

> stores (ferritin) in an attempt to control your thick

> blood.  This leads to other problems like anemia and

> fatigue and will lower your thyroid function.

>

> So the wise thing to do is control the thick blood by

> getting TRT, cortisol, and thyroid levels optimal (not too

> high, not too low), not to donate blood all the time. 

> Easier said than done.

>

> I hope this makes it a little clearer for everyone.

>

> Barb   

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