Re: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

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Pears used to be considered low oxalate and then they were retested, and now not-so-much (medium)Mangoes are low, but probably feed yeast. http://www.lowoxalate.info has some food lists. They are older so may have info that has been revised (go to yahoo group trying_low_oxalates for updated info, we cannot publish it outside the group b/c some of the research is done by a private company who is very protective of their data!!

We don't worry about feeding yeast in my house though we probably should. Well, I try not to let the kids eat carbs all day but I don't always succeed. I just go ahead and give probiotics. I know that doesn't work for everyone though. There are SCD and GAPS people on the LOD list.

FYI, low oxalate diet is a constantly evolving diet and it has a steep learning curve. So if you do decide to try it, don't become frustrated about it. I have been doing it over 6 months and still just managing to grasp it all. It's more like counting calories than eliminating foods completely (except almonds, rhubarb, swiss chard, spinach, you probably want to never eat those again LOL well, ok you can probably sneak an almond now and then LOL)

 

is there a site somewhere that lists fruits and veggies that are low oxalate, non-yeast feeders, low in phenols etc?  :-0  I am having a rough time trying to balance what foods are ok for what problems.  What about pears?  Are those ok?   I miss the good old days of thinking I was doing the right thing giving my son whole wheat breads. whole milk, and yogurt and berries.  Still over a year later and we are finding out things we juice with are not the best for him either.  You ladies should write a book, I would be one of the first to buy it!

To: mb12 valtrex

Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 11:25:07 AMSubject: Re: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

 

pineapple is a huge yeast feeder. and so are apples. just as a side note (why was I thinking they were also high phenols?)

 

From: laurargoddin

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:52 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

 

LOL!! Yes, it's possible. Yes, it's limited, and therefore, you have to kinda pick your battle of the day. We removed orange juice and bananas. Although, my kids saw them in the grocery store (bananas) and I got them. It didn't seem to affect them other than, that was all they wanted, and I was going to try to use the bananas in a muffin recipe. I can't now, as all of them are gone...

I feel the same!! I would love to eat at a restaurant again...With the Feingold, gf/cf - I am fanatical. With ox's I am a little more lenient, but watch them closely. With soy and corn, I have loosened up a little, but not much.

My kids drink pineapple juice (2oz of organic knudson's w/6oz of water) and lemonade. Lemonade is special (as it contains sugar, but it's homemade). Water and Rice Milk (unsweet, Karma brand). My kids have a juicer drink 2x's a day now. I just added golden delicious apples back in (I am trying them). I juice

these with carrots. Apparently the malic acid in apples works well with the beta carotene in carrots. Carrots are high ox, so it's a small juicer drink. The second juice is all veg mostly and a couple of fruits like pears, pineapple, lemons and lime. (I tend to use 1 or 2 high ox veg) I use herbs too.

For meals, I use eggs, meat, poultry, fish, beans and lentils (we do 2 meatless meal days a week). Things that don't juice well like squash, broccoli, green beans, and fermented veggies (etc.) For snacks, it usually some cracker (rice) with some dipping thing. Lately it's hummus. Watermelon, kiwi, blueberries or some other fruit.

I had to try other things like Tempeh. My daughter likes it, my son won't touch it. She gets that like once a month. It's part of my meatless meals. It's hard to get a good round meal plan. I know, it takes planning and persistence, and sometimes, I have been known to make breakfast for dinner, and dinner

for breakfast. We do eat bacon (about 1 time a month) and my sister converted a recipe for waffles (gf/cf) and they are to DIE for. I make a blueberry sauce and I use rice whip. I am the master of the one pot meal. I love my crock pot (as it saves me time!!). I spend about 1-2 hours a month planning meals (and days) to incorporate our new diet. It works well because my husband knows what the day is about. (I got this idea from and her calendar board...)

So, I hear ya. But actually, we aren't starving. I've lost over 40 lbs, I haven't been a size 14 in a long time, and I am almost a 12. I keep my revitapops on hand, and I always have some little snack thing that when I feel like driving thru the drive thru, it gets me thru that mental hell of me just wanting someone else to do the cooking. Then I chew on some L-theanine gum, and take a couple of MB12's and I am back on track.

I get exhausted thinking about it...but then I

grab a coffee (also high ox) with my rice milk..and think, it's the best I have ever felt. Hang in... laura > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5

> > > > year-old> > > > > > has> > > > > > > > been> > > > > > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging, smacking

> > > > > >

himself> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying, posturing,> > > > > > etc...>

> > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No one's> > > > gotten> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in abdominal> > > > > > > > distress,> > > > > > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream " diet

> > > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his> > > > yeast> > > > > > > > protocol,>

> > >

> > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an intolerance> > > > for> > > > > > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still seeing no

> > > > > > change.> > > > > > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can do to

> > > > help> > > > > > him?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Toni> > >

> > > ------> > > Mind like a steel trap...> > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> > >>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.