Re: Wheat and b-12

[Guest guest]

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' --

here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type

things I had read) ...

" Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating

secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory,

urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky.

Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds,

created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of

protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus

secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which

are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or

an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion. "

here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htm

essentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins

to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the

ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore,

the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and

wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to

perform these functions.

When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't

stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the

body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.)

A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach

(also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body

doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you

guessed it...it still sticky and gluey)

If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If

you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a

deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the

vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake

will happen.

I hope this helps. laura

Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking

for...IYKWIM?)

Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed

fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his " eczema " spot, in full

force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a

wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any

'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it.

It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes.

No melt downs...yet.

>

> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> of wheat?

>

> -Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

lmao......Toni.......

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 4:30:25 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wheat and b-12

,To confuse you. :-)Wheat is high oxalate.That's all.Toni

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' -- here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type things I had read) ..."Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory, urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky. Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds, created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion."here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htmessentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore, the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to perform these functions. When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.) A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach (also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you guessed

it...it still sticky and gluey)If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake will happen. I hope this helps. laura Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking for...IYKWIM?)Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his "eczema" spot, in full force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any 'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it. It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes. No

melt downs...yet.

>> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion > of wheat?> > -Tammy>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

lmao......Toni.......

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 4:30:25 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wheat and b-12

,To confuse you. :-)Wheat is high oxalate.That's all.Toni

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' -- here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type things I had read) ..."Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory, urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky. Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds, created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion."here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htmessentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore, the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to perform these functions. When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.) A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach (also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you guessed

it...it still sticky and gluey)If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake will happen. I hope this helps. laura Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking for...IYKWIM?)Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his "eczema" spot, in full force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any 'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it. It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes. No

melt downs...yet.

>> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion > of wheat?> > -Tammy>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

....so I've been doing a little snooping into this wheat/b12 thing and the mucus that you speak of. And it's interesting stuff. Now I'm starting to wonder if that's why Tom is such a HUGE responder to vitamin c...because citrus will help break down that mucus....there might be a connection there somewhere. I also talked to his dan about why he suggested 5mthf even though we've ditched the B12. His FiGLU results came back high. Which, I don't how much people here have dug into that, but THAT led me to something else to add to the list of things-to-learn. Apparently, we have to be very careful with folate because it can "mask" a b12 deficiency and/or it can worsen a b12 deficiency that already exisits. I'm not sure if it can CAUSE one, per se, but I'll dig for

more. I'm trying to figure out why some people have such a difficult time with B supplements...even when they may test as deficient. And I wonder if the reaction is with supplements only or if they notice behaviors or physical symptoms if their kids eat foods high in B's. I'm so all over the place lately...I have to pick ONE thing and learn about it. But it's like opening Pandora's box. sheesh!-TammyTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:02:32 PMSubject: Re: Wheat and b-12

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' --

here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type things I had read) ...

"Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory, urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky. Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds, created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion."

here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htm

essentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore, the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to perform these functions.

When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.)

A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach (also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you guessed it...it still sticky and gluey)

If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake will happen.

I hope this helps. laura

Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking for...IYKWIM?)

Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his "eczema" spot, in full force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any 'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it. It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes. No melt downs...yet.

>

> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in

> every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion

> of wheat?

>

> -Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

>>I'm trying to figure out why some people have such a difficult time

with B supplements...even when they may test as deficient.  And I

wonder if the reaction is with supplements only or if they notice

behaviors or physical symptoms if their kids eat foods high in B's. Not sure if this applies, but my ND was saying that Maia may have reacted to the B-complex solution because we had done another food intolerance test ontop of the igg and it came back that Maia is intolerant to potatoes.  The ND said that most general B vits are derived from potatoes and that it is a possible reason why Maia reacted so strongly to the b-complex solution.  I pulled potatoes from her diet a few months ago (I'm trying everything I can to stop the chronic loose stools and actually have an appointment with our DAN tomorrow to look into abx treatment for it).  However, since pulling potatoes, the stools have generally gotten a little less loose and I can get good stools on some days now, although not consistently.

 

....so I've been doing a little snooping into this wheat/b12 thing and the mucus that you speak of.  And it's interesting stuff.  Now I'm starting to wonder if that's why Tom is such a HUGE responder to vitamin c...because citrus will help break down that mucus....there might be a connection there somewhere.  I also talked to his dan about why he suggested 5mthf even though we've ditched the B12.  His FiGLU results came back high.  Which, I don't how much people here have dug into that, but THAT led me to something else to add to the list of things-to-learn.  Apparently, we have to be very careful with folate because it can " mask " a b12 deficiency and/or it can worsen a b12 deficiency that already exisits.  I'm not sure if it can CAUSE one, per se, but I'll dig for

more.  I'm trying to figure out why some people have such a difficult time with B supplements...even when they may test as deficient.  And I wonder if the reaction is with supplements only or if they notice behaviors or physical symptoms if their kids eat foods high in B's.  I'm so all over the place lately...I have to pick ONE thing and learn about it.  But it's like opening Pandora's box.  sheesh!

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:02:32 PM

Subject: Re: Wheat and b-12

 

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' --

here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type things I had read) ...

" Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory, urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky. Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds, created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion. "

here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htm

essentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore, the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to perform these functions.

When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.)

A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach (also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you guessed it...it still sticky and gluey)

If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake will happen.

I hope this helps. laura

Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking for...IYKWIM?)

Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his " eczema " spot, in full force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any 'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it. It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes. No melt downs...yet.

>

> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion

> of wheat?

>

> -Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

>>I'm trying to figure out why some people have such a difficult time

with B supplements...even when they may test as deficient.  And I

wonder if the reaction is with supplements only or if they notice

behaviors or physical symptoms if their kids eat foods high in B's. Not sure if this applies, but my ND was saying that Maia may have reacted to the B-complex solution because we had done another food intolerance test ontop of the igg and it came back that Maia is intolerant to potatoes.  The ND said that most general B vits are derived from potatoes and that it is a possible reason why Maia reacted so strongly to the b-complex solution.  I pulled potatoes from her diet a few months ago (I'm trying everything I can to stop the chronic loose stools and actually have an appointment with our DAN tomorrow to look into abx treatment for it).  However, since pulling potatoes, the stools have generally gotten a little less loose and I can get good stools on some days now, although not consistently.

 

....so I've been doing a little snooping into this wheat/b12 thing and the mucus that you speak of.  And it's interesting stuff.  Now I'm starting to wonder if that's why Tom is such a HUGE responder to vitamin c...because citrus will help break down that mucus....there might be a connection there somewhere.  I also talked to his dan about why he suggested 5mthf even though we've ditched the B12.  His FiGLU results came back high.  Which, I don't how much people here have dug into that, but THAT led me to something else to add to the list of things-to-learn.  Apparently, we have to be very careful with folate because it can " mask " a b12 deficiency and/or it can worsen a b12 deficiency that already exisits.  I'm not sure if it can CAUSE one, per se, but I'll dig for

more.  I'm trying to figure out why some people have such a difficult time with B supplements...even when they may test as deficient.  And I wonder if the reaction is with supplements only or if they notice behaviors or physical symptoms if their kids eat foods high in B's.  I'm so all over the place lately...I have to pick ONE thing and learn about it.  But it's like opening Pandora's box.  sheesh!

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:02:32 PM

Subject: Re: Wheat and b-12

 

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' --

here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type things I had read) ...

" Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory, urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky. Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds, created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion. "

here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htm

essentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore, the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to perform these functions.

When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.)

A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach (also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you guessed it...it still sticky and gluey)

If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake will happen.

I hope this helps. laura

Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking for...IYKWIM?)

Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his " eczema " spot, in full force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any 'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it. It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes. No melt downs...yet.

>

> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion

> of wheat?

>

> -Tammy

>