Re: Wheat and b-12

[Guest guest]

I didn't know if you saw my post about 'mucus' --

here is a little excerpt from a web page I found (ascertaining the same type

things I had read) ...

" Not all mucus is bad. Healthy mucus is a clear, slippery, lubricating

secretion, used to protect mucus membranes along the digestive, respiratory,

urinary and reproductive tracts. Unhealthy mucus is cloudy, thick, and sticky.

Mucus is secreted to stop irritants, pollutants, or carcinogenic compounds,

created by putrefying, undigested food residues. It's like a blanket of

protection. Certain foods such as milk and bread cause an increase of mucus

secretions. These foods have large protein molecules (casein and gluten) which

are difficult to digest and are more prone to putrefaction, and may be toxic or

an irritant to the body. For many, bread and milk cause sinus congestion. "

here is the full version: (it's wicked informative!)

http://www.freedomyou.com/nutrition_book/mucus.htm

essentially, removing wheat/milk removes the 'mucus' factor, and allows vitamins

to be taken up by the villi in the intestines. The Uptake of B12 is in the

ileum, when it's covered with 'mucus' -- the body can't get it and therefore,

the body doesn't get it. Hence the removal of foods containing 'milk and

wheat' -- will decrease the 'mucus factor' and therefore, allow the body to

perform these functions.

When you take 'digestive' enzymes, it might help break it down, but it doesn't

stop the mucus from being created. (Because it's the proteins that signal the

body to create the mucus in the first place)...(I hope this makes sense.)

A lot of times zinc is required to maintain healthy levels of HCL in the stomach

(also used to help break down milk and wheat) and when it's low (HCL) the body

doesn't break it down well, and then it's on to the intestines. (where you

guessed it...it still sticky and gluey)

If you have 'inflammation' chances are you have a deficiency in a vitamins. If

you have 'allergies' or 'intolerance' to foods, chances are you have a

deficiency in vitamins/minerals, etc. When you remove the barriers, the

vitamins/minerals can be removed from foods in the intestines, and the uptake

will happen.

I hope this helps. laura

Let me know if you need more. (or if I didn't get at what you were looking

for...IYKWIM?)

Yesterday we gave Jimmy a 'wheat' cracker at a party he went to. He seemed

fine. That night during his bath, we both noticed his " eczema " spot, in full

force (bright red!) -- we have not seen it since last time he accidentally got a

wheat cracker. (a couple of wheat crackers, and not many). He didn't have any

'issues' with it, but the eczema spot tells me that, his body doesn't want it.

It was an easy decision, no wheat, not for a long time. We also tested grapes.

No melt downs...yet.

>

> recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> of wheat?

>

> -Tammy

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, no, I don't have cancer, no one that I knows has cancer, and actually I came

across it (Gerson Therapy) when I was reading about juicing, the article I was

reading made this small reference to it. (and I can't just let anything go...)It

really sold me on 'juicing' - or solidified my thoughts about juicing.

Reading it has also really made me come to realize that -- all disease and

disorder, really is just (oversimplified, of course) a lack of nutrition. If

you get an opportunity, you should check out a documentary (on netflix) or just

read a case study. It will blow your freakin' mind!

He (Max Gerson) actually testified in congress, and when requested, they can't

seem to locate the transcripts...guess the American Cancer Society got to them.

He was also poisoned...guess no one wanted him to get mainstreamed...I mean,

Cancer is a billion dollar industry. After reading that...I started to learn

the history of our medical system today...it's so riddled with corruption and

money, that it's amazing we all haven't just died.

ugh. I have to STOP reading about this stuff.

laura

and no, ask me anything you want..I'm pretty open about anything...

> >

> > recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> >

> > of wheat?

> >

> > -Tammy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, no, I don't have cancer, no one that I knows has cancer, and actually I came

across it (Gerson Therapy) when I was reading about juicing, the article I was

reading made this small reference to it. (and I can't just let anything go...)It

really sold me on 'juicing' - or solidified my thoughts about juicing.

Reading it has also really made me come to realize that -- all disease and

disorder, really is just (oversimplified, of course) a lack of nutrition. If

you get an opportunity, you should check out a documentary (on netflix) or just

read a case study. It will blow your freakin' mind!

He (Max Gerson) actually testified in congress, and when requested, they can't

seem to locate the transcripts...guess the American Cancer Society got to them.

He was also poisoned...guess no one wanted him to get mainstreamed...I mean,

Cancer is a billion dollar industry. After reading that...I started to learn

the history of our medical system today...it's so riddled with corruption and

money, that it's amazing we all haven't just died.

ugh. I have to STOP reading about this stuff.

laura

and no, ask me anything you want..I'm pretty open about anything...

> >

> > recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12.  Is that in

> > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> >

> > of wheat?

> >

> > -Tammy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know that -- also -- (not to confuse things) -- but, Vitamin C increases the

'excretion' of Folic Acid. -- if you are just doing the 5mthf (which is the

bio-available folic acid, right?), it could also mean that he is getting 'too

much' folic acid too, and the excretion of it, helps. ??

Then again, Vitamin C and Histidine help with Iron uptake. (Is he anemic?) - I

am assuming that FiGLU means too much histidine? (maybe that's why Vitamin C

works well)

If he doesn't do well with B supplements -- I would try the naturals -- like

royal jelly or bee pollen.

Vitamin C also helps with all the uptake of the B Vitamins.

BOy, I am full of it tonight...I'm trying not to confuse you, and I think I am

doing that.

I know what you mean, there is a lot out there. It's overwhelming...so I try

(my best) to simplify it....I don't always do a great job of it!

laura

> >

> > recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in

> > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> >

> > of wheat?

> >

> > -Tammy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know that -- also -- (not to confuse things) -- but, Vitamin C increases the

'excretion' of Folic Acid. -- if you are just doing the 5mthf (which is the

bio-available folic acid, right?), it could also mean that he is getting 'too

much' folic acid too, and the excretion of it, helps. ??

Then again, Vitamin C and Histidine help with Iron uptake. (Is he anemic?) - I

am assuming that FiGLU means too much histidine? (maybe that's why Vitamin C

works well)

If he doesn't do well with B supplements -- I would try the naturals -- like

royal jelly or bee pollen.

Vitamin C also helps with all the uptake of the B Vitamins.

BOy, I am full of it tonight...I'm trying not to confuse you, and I think I am

doing that.

I know what you mean, there is a lot out there. It's overwhelming...so I try

(my best) to simplify it....I don't always do a great job of it!

laura

> >

> > recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in

> > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the

breakdown/digestion

> >

> > of wheat?

> >

> > -Tammy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I was thinking that maybe there was something in vitamin C itself that helps to breakdown that mucus (which might explain why citrus is able to do that). When I first started biomed with Tom, I started with a multivitamin and then vitamin C. The reason why I chose C first is because Tom's pedi refused to run a single test for me and I had not yet found a dan. I was new to the world of biomed and had no clue what had caused or was causing my kid's issues. C is a great antioxidant, it's a natural chelator and as you mentioned, , it aids in the uptake of B vitamins. It's also water soluble so there was less worry of overdosing him since I had no guidance from a doc. He had an awful lingering cough that stayed with him all winter and

into the spring. Then the "pocs" appeared. Along with the PDD dx, he had also been diagnosed with ADHD, and I had learned enough to know that vitamin C and B vitamins we required for stablizing seratonin and dopamine levels. This kid was sick, so C seemed like a common sense (and safe) place to start. God was with me, because it helped an awful lot. I was not aware of his wheat issue at that time and wonder now if the C was helping with that, as well. Let me also say, that as the cough and pocs vanished, the adhd symptoms vanished as well.

We haven't started the 5mthf yet. The only folate he's gotten is from his multivite and the bcomplex he used to take. I'm still tweeking the sacch b which we may ditch altogether. After that's squared away, I'll give the 5mthf a shot. We don't do the high C all the time now. We used to until we found the dan and scrapped everything to start fresh. So the C is a sometimes thing. The fiGLU shows either low b12 or low folate -- since the 12 didn't look like it was doing much, we stopped and he told me to add the folate. Which I will. But now I know what to look out for as we proceed. I think once we manage to get completely wheat free here, I'll give the b12 another try in light of all this new info. I'm def. going to pass that along to the dan...

As far as Tom tolerating B's, he had a hard time the first couple times at it. But the third time was a charm...I don't know if it was a matter of finding a complex with higher b6 and biotin or just coicindence, but he did better the third time. I miss the B6, we're going back to it. I am more curious about intolerance for other people's sake because we see it here so often. There's gotta be a reason. Especially with these kids who refuse to eat and you know they're not getting any thorugh their diet. I'm guessing if the body isn't equipped to utilize it correctly and its floating around unused, it can make them bonkers. (I think McCandless gets into that a little). Tom is not anemic. I was when I was pregnant with him and I had a hard time tolerating the supplement....I wonder if that plays a part in his issues.

....and don't ever worry about confusing me. I've spent my entire life confused. It's not so bad, really : )

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 11:17:35 PMSubject: Re: Wheat and b-12

I know that -- also -- (not to confuse things) -- but, Vitamin C increases the 'excretion' of Folic Acid. -- if you are just doing the 5mthf (which is the bio-available folic acid, right?), it could also mean that he is getting 'too much' folic acid too, and the excretion of it, helps. ??Then again, Vitamin C and Histidine help with Iron uptake. (Is he anemic?) - I am assuming that FiGLU means too much histidine? (maybe that's why Vitamin C works well) If he doesn't do well with B supplements -- I would try the naturals -- like royal jelly or bee pollen.Vitamin C also helps with all the uptake of the B Vitamins. BOy, I am full of it tonight...I'm trying not to confuse you, and I think I am doing that. :)I know what you mean, there is a lot out there. It's overwhelming...so I try (my best) to simplify it....I don't always do a great job of it! laura > >> > recently posted about wheat inhibiting the uptake of b12. Is that in > > every circumstance or only when there is a problem with the breakdown/digestion > >> > of wheat?> > > > -Tammy> >>