Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I did see a little bit of a rash (just one spot) with DS, which looked like a mosquito bite. I was wondering whether there is any way to force the rash out of him. Once he had a rash with OLE and we did see gains after that. So I really want him to break out in a rash. > > > > > > > Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how > > you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high > > dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the > > third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, > > did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week > > or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather > > than switching right away on the third day? > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I can't answer that. I would discuss it with your doctor. My post isn't meant to scare you. It's just meant to make you think about what you are giving your child and if it has toxicity potential and that sometimes symptoms you're seeing isn't die-off. There are kids that take 10k IU daily with no physical signs of toxicity. It just doesn't mean that it is going to be safe for all kids. Discuss it with your doctor. You can pull Vitamin A levels if you're worried, you can do this through local labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ It really got me worried. Since November my son has been getting 7500 IU of Vitamin A daily. So it's been 3 months since he has been getting this much. He gets 2500 IU from CLO and 5000 IU from his Multi (ASD Vitamin and mineral powder). So he is getting 150% of recommended daily value. Also, we are planning on starting RX anti-virals. Should I reduce his vitamin A intake and hold on starting RX antivirals? Thank you, Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I can't answer that. I would discuss it with your doctor. My post isn't meant to scare you. It's just meant to make you think about what you are giving your child and if it has toxicity potential and that sometimes symptoms you're seeing isn't die-off. There are kids that take 10k IU daily with no physical signs of toxicity. It just doesn't mean that it is going to be safe for all kids. Discuss it with your doctor. You can pull Vitamin A levels if you're worried, you can do this through local labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ It really got me worried. Since November my son has been getting 7500 IU of Vitamin A daily. So it's been 3 months since he has been getting this much. He gets 2500 IU from CLO and 5000 IU from his Multi (ASD Vitamin and mineral powder). So he is getting 150% of recommended daily value. Also, we are planning on starting RX anti-virals. Should I reduce his vitamin A intake and hold on starting RX antivirals? Thank you, Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I can't answer that. I would discuss it with your doctor. My post isn't meant to scare you. It's just meant to make you think about what you are giving your child and if it has toxicity potential and that sometimes symptoms you're seeing isn't die-off. There are kids that take 10k IU daily with no physical signs of toxicity. It just doesn't mean that it is going to be safe for all kids. Discuss it with your doctor. You can pull Vitamin A levels if you're worried, you can do this through local labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ It really got me worried. Since November my son has been getting 7500 IU of Vitamin A daily. So it's been 3 months since he has been getting this much. He gets 2500 IU from CLO and 5000 IU from his Multi (ASD Vitamin and mineral powder). So he is getting 150% of recommended daily value. Also, we are planning on starting RX anti-virals. Should I reduce his vitamin A intake and hold on starting RX antivirals? Thank you, Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If this helps any: My son is low on Vitamin A per a labcorp test. Her suggestion is to do the high dose vitamin A protocol (twofold - addresses measles and the deficiency) and then not give a maintenance dose at all. She feels that for most, just doing the high dose protocol every 6 months is sufficient. While we don't want to be deficient in A, between all the supplements we give, we should have plenty of A to go around. She still pulls A to make sure but she finds it's not necessary for most to even take a separate maintenance dose if you do the high A every 6 months.That's her take one it, at least. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If this helps any: My son is low on Vitamin A per a labcorp test. Her suggestion is to do the high dose vitamin A protocol (twofold - addresses measles and the deficiency) and then not give a maintenance dose at all. She feels that for most, just doing the high dose protocol every 6 months is sufficient. While we don't want to be deficient in A, between all the supplements we give, we should have plenty of A to go around. She still pulls A to make sure but she finds it's not necessary for most to even take a separate maintenance dose if you do the high A every 6 months.That's her take one it, at least. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If this helps any: My son is low on Vitamin A per a labcorp test. Her suggestion is to do the high dose vitamin A protocol (twofold - addresses measles and the deficiency) and then not give a maintenance dose at all. She feels that for most, just doing the high dose protocol every 6 months is sufficient. While we don't want to be deficient in A, between all the supplements we give, we should have plenty of A to go around. She still pulls A to make sure but she finds it's not necessary for most to even take a separate maintenance dose if you do the high A every 6 months.That's her take one it, at least. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 For us she recommended doing 4 days of high dose Vitamin A and repeat it every 3 months. Right now we will not be doing it, but it is something to consider for the future. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 For us she recommended doing 4 days of high dose Vitamin A and repeat it every 3 months. Right now we will not be doing it, but it is something to consider for the future. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 For us she recommended doing 4 days of high dose Vitamin A and repeat it every 3 months. Right now we will not be doing it, but it is something to consider for the future. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I haven't done a lot of research on high Vitamin A protocol, but I think she chose 4 days because I mentioned to her that my son is a very sensitive guy and she said "let's do 4 instead of 2". Not sure why it is 3 months, but I will definitely ask her. I think I am still learning how to ask the right questions. Thanks for all the great tips. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Please remember t hat vitamin A derived from BETA CAROTENE is NOT fat soluble and will not contribute toward vitamin A toxicity.The Retinol and the Palmitate forms are the ones to be concerned about.Many times, the multivitamin has a good percentage of the vitamin A listed on the label as being from Beta Carotene.Make sure you do the math, and don’t worry if it’s from beta carotene. Lori Lori KnowlesGeneral Manager and DirectorNew Beginnings Nutritionals7797 Quivira Rd Lenexa, KS 66215Phone: Fax: Email: lknowles@...URL: http://www.nbnus.com/ Become a FAN of our Facebook Page 4g. Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance Posted by: " firk87 " firk87@... firk87 Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:55 am (PST) It really got me worried. Since November my son has been getting 7500 IU of Vitamin A daily. So it's been 3 months since he has been getting this much. He gets 2500 IU from CLO and 5000 IU from his Multi (ASD Vitamin and mineral powder). So he is getting 150% of recommended daily value. Also, we are planning on starting RX anti-virals. Should I reduce his vitamin A intake and hold on starting RX antivirals? Thank you,DovileSubject: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and MaintenanceTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 8:54 AM Your question comes at a very apropos time.  I just published a blog post you might want to read before you give your child a maintenance dose of 10-25kIU daily.http://bit.ly/gRS4ly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I have no idea who your DAN is but that would NOT be adviced, you can make a child VERY ill that way. there bodies already have issues detoxing and processeing suppliments right, and that is a quick one to get toxic.... From: Toni Marie Lombardo Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:41 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance My DAN mentioned repeating the high vit a protocol once a month. We also had ONE "bite" looking thing. I did see a little bit of a rash (just one spot) with DS, which looked like a mosquito bite. I was wondering whether there is any way to force the rash out of him. Once he had a rash with OLE and we did see gains after that. So I really want him to break out in a rash. > > >> >> > Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how> > you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high> > dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the> > third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose,> > did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week> > or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather> > than switching right away on the third day?> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I have no idea who your DAN is but that would NOT be adviced, you can make a child VERY ill that way. there bodies already have issues detoxing and processeing suppliments right, and that is a quick one to get toxic.... From: Toni Marie Lombardo Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:41 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance My DAN mentioned repeating the high vit a protocol once a month. We also had ONE "bite" looking thing. I did see a little bit of a rash (just one spot) with DS, which looked like a mosquito bite. I was wondering whether there is any way to force the rash out of him. Once he had a rash with OLE and we did see gains after that. So I really want him to break out in a rash. > > >> >> > Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how> > you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high> > dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the> > third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose,> > did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week> > or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather> > than switching right away on the third day?> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I will share what we did as it's a bit different and to throw another option your way. we got to be in McCandless study on the vit A and measels and had a confirmed high titer showing cronic infection (which are the kids that need the high dose ones) we choose to go the low and slow route of 5 drops a day. in months we broke out from head to toe in meseals confirmed by several dr's From: cheryl biomed.mom Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:27 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance If this helps any: My son is low on Vitamin A per a labcorp test. Her suggestion is to do the high dose vitamin A protocol (twofold - addresses measles and the deficiency) and then not give a maintenance dose at all. She feels that for most, just doing the high dose protocol every 6 months is sufficient. While we don't want to be deficient in A, between all the supplements we give, we should have plenty of A to go around. She still pulls A to make sure but she finds it's not necessary for most to even take a separate maintenance dose if you do the high A every 6 months. That's her take one it, at least. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I will share what we did as it's a bit different and to throw another option your way. we got to be in McCandless study on the vit A and measels and had a confirmed high titer showing cronic infection (which are the kids that need the high dose ones) we choose to go the low and slow route of 5 drops a day. in months we broke out from head to toe in meseals confirmed by several dr's From: cheryl biomed.mom Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:27 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance If this helps any: My son is low on Vitamin A per a labcorp test. Her suggestion is to do the high dose vitamin A protocol (twofold - addresses measles and the deficiency) and then not give a maintenance dose at all. She feels that for most, just doing the high dose protocol every 6 months is sufficient. While we don't want to be deficient in A, between all the supplements we give, we should have plenty of A to go around. She still pulls A to make sure but she finds it's not necessary for most to even take a separate maintenance dose if you do the high A every 6 months. That's her take one it, at least. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ Thanks, Cheryl. I want to do some blood work for my son anyway, so checking Vitamin A levels would be another thing to add on our list. Dovile Those who have seen benefits from High Dose Vitamin A can you tell me how you switched to the maintenance dose? In other words, did you give the high dose (4,00,000 I.U.) for 2 days and start the maintenance dose from the third day (10,000-25,000 I.U.) itself? Or, after the 2 days of high dose, did you slowly reduce and reach the lower maintenance dose in about a week or so i.e. gradually went from the high dose to the maintenance dose rather than switching right away on the third day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah, I'm not likely gonna do it. Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated! I have no idea who your DAN is but that would NOT be adviced, you can make a child VERY ill that way. there bodies already have issues detoxing and processeing suppliments right, and that is a quick one to get toxic.... From: Toni Marie Lombardo Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:41 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance My DAN mentioned repeating the high vit a protocol once a month. We also had ONE " bite " looking thing.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah, I'm not likely gonna do it. Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated! I have no idea who your DAN is but that would NOT be adviced, you can make a child VERY ill that way. there bodies already have issues detoxing and processeing suppliments right, and that is a quick one to get toxic.... From: Toni Marie Lombardo Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:41 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Re: High Dose Vitamin A and Maintenance My DAN mentioned repeating the high vit a protocol once a month. We also had ONE " bite " looking thing.-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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