Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hi all! Its been rough and many times I thought my mother might hurt my sister or I very badly... I never wanted to call child services because she always told me if I did I would be separated from my sister if I did. I live with my boyfriend now, and my sister lives with hers so we are out of the situation and with people who really love and care about us. But I have continuos contact with my mother, she will call me a minimum of 15 times a day. I feel guilty just saying bad things about her, because it was very hit or miss with her. Some days she was so sweet, and the next minute you had to run for cover. I heard that was a very common trait with BPD, or do you guys think she has something different? Some days she would be nice and would want to hang out go to lunch and watch movies with me, but if I happened to say or do something she didnt agree with all hell would break loose. She made my sister and I great dinners at night, and went to every dance or band concert we had, took us to friends or school events, bought us nice clothes, comforted us when we were upset and crying... so its times like that I think about that makes me think she was a great mother... but then its like I said before, she would smother us, or hold knives to us, or pull our hair out, or destroy our items, or just verbal abuse. She calls me a C*** now when she gets mad at me, or a worthless piece of shit, or she will call me a slut for living with my boyfriend and say very vulgar things, or she will drive by where I live now and key my car.... its really stupid and immature. Some days its so hard for me, I get so stressed out and scared. I feel like im always going to be judged for who I am, I over think everything I do and somedays im just so exhausted because of all the fighting. How does every one here handle it? How did you go NC? (I'm VERY high contact and feel bad and guilty for leaving my mom all alone at home, and she guilt trips me for moving out and leaving her alone...telling me she might slip in the shower and die and no one would be there to help her... blah blah blah.... so my guilt is so high I feel I have to answer every phone call or email from her, I get SO STRESSED if I leave my phone upstairs when im downstairs incase I miss her call, half because she used to scream at the top of her lungs if I didnt answer her phone calls and part because I feel bad if I dont...its like her and my cell phone control my life....) Sorry for rambling! Im so happy I found this place! You are all so strong! - > > > > Good Evening Everyone, > > > > I am new here and just recently was able to put a name with my mothers actions and emotions, I began seeing a counselor with my boyfriend due to excess fighting because of major outside influences on our relationship and doubts that I have due to things my mother says about his and my relationship. I am 21 years old and she has always had a temper and been verbally and physically abusive to my older sister of (23 years) and I. > > > > When I began going to the counselor I told her a little about my mothers behavior and actions and she said it sounded like my mother has BPD, and told me to read Stop Walking on Eggshells which I just picked up at the bookstore this morning. It has helped immensely in the few hours I have been reading it! My mother fits eight of the signs of BPD and is *DEFIANTLY* an Invisible BPD. > > > > I have been with my boyfriend almost three years and my mother and I always fight because she has been abusive ever since I can remember (seemingly more after my father passed away when I was 8 years old) she has raging fits and tempers and will be destructive to anything, usually things she knows I care about or enjoy... like ruining my favorite book, or kicking in a painting my great grandmother painted or worse.... smothering my sister and I with a pillow, or holding knives to me, or pulling my hair out..... I have become very hyper-vigilant and insecure with myself and not trusting of anyone.... (ex: Issues with my boyfriend) > > > > Glad to see im not alone, and I hope to be able to talk and have someone to listen! > > > > Good luck to you all! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 , Your nada is showing all the BPD traits and her behaviour sounds very familiar. This constant going back and forth from a 'nice, normal' to rages, name calling, belittling is all, unfortunately, very typical. I think I really understood the black hole of the BPD madness when I became a mother myself in my late 20's. All of the sudden you realize that it is NOT normal to be loving and caring with your kids one minute and then, a minute later, turn into a screaming, insulting, shouting profanities monster to your own children. A mother does not verbally and physically attack her children like that. Kids will make you loose your temper, but, I never, NEVER, felt the urge to rage or get angry at my kids like she did with me. I love going shopping, or bringing them to their sport practices, or their school performances. It is normal for every mother, really. I do not insult or call my kids names even if I get angry at them. I do not pull knives, pull their hair, or beat them. My nada used to (not the knives, even though she got to the point of biting me on the face!) and her excuse was always that: " All mothers get angry at times " . The abusive behaviour of a BPD is really pathological, dangerous and unacceptable. There is a very big difference between beating and abusing your kids and `reprimand' or give them healthy time outs! My nada could change her 'mood' within seconds. I remember inviting her, many years ago, to a theater show (because, of course, she was complaining that she was alone - their biggest fear - that I was never spending enough time with her and blah, blah, blah). It was a lovely comedy and she truly enjoyed it, she actually was having a good time. After the performance, we went to a cafe'. I ordered a cup of tea and - horror - put one teaspoon of SUGAR in it. Within seconds, completely out of the blue, she started raging, insulting me calling me a fat slut, a fat whore and 'how could my boyfriend sleep with such a disgusting fatso' etc. etc. Does this sound normal? No, it isn't. As you said, ONE word or ONE action can set a BPD off. Trust your feelings, your mother is BPD and there is very little you can do. Please learn not to feel guilty. It is not up to you to be a `Mother to your mother', to be responsible for your mother happiness. Also, kids eventually leave home! Please don't feel bad or guilty for " leaving your mom all alone at home " , She is an adult and cannot pretend or demand to have her daughters at home or in constant, daily contact with her for the rest of her life. It is emotional blackmail. And, for your own sanity, feel free to switch off the phone when you want. Everybody has the right to privacy, peace and quiet. You cannot be available 24/7. Good luck to you! > > > Hi all! > > Its been rough and many times I thought my mother might hurt my sister or I very badly... I never wanted to call child services because she always told me if I did I would be separated from my sister if I did. I live with my boyfriend now, and my sister lives with hers so we are out of the situation and with people who really love and care about us. But I have continuos contact with my mother, she will call me a minimum of 15 times a day. > > I feel guilty just saying bad things about her, because it was very hit or miss with her. Some days she was so sweet, and the next minute you had to run for cover. I heard that was a very common trait with BPD, or do you guys think she has something different? > > Some days she would be nice and would want to hang out go to lunch and watch movies with me, but if I happened to say or do something she didnt agree with all hell would break loose. She made my sister and I great dinners at night, and went to every dance or band concert we had, took us to friends or school events, bought us nice clothes, comforted us when we were upset and crying... so its times like that I think about that makes me think she was a great mother... but then its like I said before, she would smother us, or hold knives to us, or pull our hair out, or destroy our items, or just verbal abuse. She calls me a C*** now when she gets mad at me, or a worthless piece of shit, or she will call me a slut for living with my boyfriend and say very vulgar things, or she will drive by where I live now and key my car.... its really stupid and immature. > > Some days its so hard for me, I get so stressed out and scared. I feel like im always going to be judged for who I am, I over think everything I do and somedays im just so exhausted because of all the fighting. > > > How does every one here handle it? How did you go NC? (I'm VERY high contact and feel bad and guilty for leaving my mom all alone at home, and she guilt trips me for moving out and leaving her alone...telling me she might slip in the shower and die and no one would be there to help her... blah blah blah.... so my guilt is so high I feel I have to answer every phone call or email from her, I get SO STRESSED if I leave my phone upstairs when im downstairs incase I miss her call, half because she used to scream at the top of her lungs if I didnt answer her phone calls and part because I feel bad if I dont...its like her and my cell phone control my life....) > > > > Sorry for rambling! > > Im so happy I found this place! You are all so strong! > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 , Your nada is showing all the BPD traits and her behaviour sounds very familiar. This constant going back and forth from a 'nice, normal' to rages, name calling, belittling is all, unfortunately, very typical. I think I really understood the black hole of the BPD madness when I became a mother myself in my late 20's. All of the sudden you realize that it is NOT normal to be loving and caring with your kids one minute and then, a minute later, turn into a screaming, insulting, shouting profanities monster to your own children. A mother does not verbally and physically attack her children like that. Kids will make you loose your temper, but, I never, NEVER, felt the urge to rage or get angry at my kids like she did with me. I love going shopping, or bringing them to their sport practices, or their school performances. It is normal for every mother, really. I do not insult or call my kids names even if I get angry at them. I do not pull knives, pull their hair, or beat them. My nada used to (not the knives, even though she got to the point of biting me on the face!) and her excuse was always that: " All mothers get angry at times " . The abusive behaviour of a BPD is really pathological, dangerous and unacceptable. There is a very big difference between beating and abusing your kids and `reprimand' or give them healthy time outs! My nada could change her 'mood' within seconds. I remember inviting her, many years ago, to a theater show (because, of course, she was complaining that she was alone - their biggest fear - that I was never spending enough time with her and blah, blah, blah). It was a lovely comedy and she truly enjoyed it, she actually was having a good time. After the performance, we went to a cafe'. I ordered a cup of tea and - horror - put one teaspoon of SUGAR in it. Within seconds, completely out of the blue, she started raging, insulting me calling me a fat slut, a fat whore and 'how could my boyfriend sleep with such a disgusting fatso' etc. etc. Does this sound normal? No, it isn't. As you said, ONE word or ONE action can set a BPD off. Trust your feelings, your mother is BPD and there is very little you can do. Please learn not to feel guilty. It is not up to you to be a `Mother to your mother', to be responsible for your mother happiness. Also, kids eventually leave home! Please don't feel bad or guilty for " leaving your mom all alone at home " , She is an adult and cannot pretend or demand to have her daughters at home or in constant, daily contact with her for the rest of her life. It is emotional blackmail. And, for your own sanity, feel free to switch off the phone when you want. Everybody has the right to privacy, peace and quiet. You cannot be available 24/7. Good luck to you! > > > Hi all! > > Its been rough and many times I thought my mother might hurt my sister or I very badly... I never wanted to call child services because she always told me if I did I would be separated from my sister if I did. I live with my boyfriend now, and my sister lives with hers so we are out of the situation and with people who really love and care about us. But I have continuos contact with my mother, she will call me a minimum of 15 times a day. > > I feel guilty just saying bad things about her, because it was very hit or miss with her. Some days she was so sweet, and the next minute you had to run for cover. I heard that was a very common trait with BPD, or do you guys think she has something different? > > Some days she would be nice and would want to hang out go to lunch and watch movies with me, but if I happened to say or do something she didnt agree with all hell would break loose. She made my sister and I great dinners at night, and went to every dance or band concert we had, took us to friends or school events, bought us nice clothes, comforted us when we were upset and crying... so its times like that I think about that makes me think she was a great mother... but then its like I said before, she would smother us, or hold knives to us, or pull our hair out, or destroy our items, or just verbal abuse. She calls me a C*** now when she gets mad at me, or a worthless piece of shit, or she will call me a slut for living with my boyfriend and say very vulgar things, or she will drive by where I live now and key my car.... its really stupid and immature. > > Some days its so hard for me, I get so stressed out and scared. I feel like im always going to be judged for who I am, I over think everything I do and somedays im just so exhausted because of all the fighting. > > > How does every one here handle it? How did you go NC? (I'm VERY high contact and feel bad and guilty for leaving my mom all alone at home, and she guilt trips me for moving out and leaving her alone...telling me she might slip in the shower and die and no one would be there to help her... blah blah blah.... so my guilt is so high I feel I have to answer every phone call or email from her, I get SO STRESSED if I leave my phone upstairs when im downstairs incase I miss her call, half because she used to scream at the top of her lungs if I didnt answer her phone calls and part because I feel bad if I dont...its like her and my cell phone control my life....) > > > > Sorry for rambling! > > Im so happy I found this place! You are all so strong! > > - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 It really is crazy how much bpd parents can really f**k with you. I always thought it was normal until my sister pointed it out. I was so sheltered and never got out much I thought every family was like that, but now that I see the difference it makes me very bitter and angry toward my mother, yet at the same time I feel guilty and sad for her because its not her fault she has bpd. I try to tell her she has an issue (made that mistake before reading Stop Walking on Eggshells) and she flipped it onto me " No, im fine. Im worried about you though, you have some sort of mental issue and I really wish you would get help. " ... and it really started to mess with me, because I started to believe it) It makes me even more bitter because I feel like I am a burden to everyone, and that everyone just " puts up with me " to be nice, I get stressed out when people raise their voice or when I get suggestive criticism, I feel like every choice I make is wrong or not good enough and Im finally seeing Im this way because of the environment I grew up in. I think a RE is a great suggestion (many people have told me to do it, including my sis ... it just the point of getting emotionally there.... I dont know at what point I'll say enough is enough... and I honesty do not want to wait to see what that point is..... ) I never considered what she did emotional blackmail before... but what you said is COMPLETELY TRUE! it is emotional blackmail! and I have been nothing but tied up to her because of it.... how is it we let people make us feel the way our bpd parents do? If ANYONE else (such as my boyfriend) did what my mother does to me I would *RUN* out of the relationship and not even second guess it. I am headed to the bookstore now to get those two books you recommended! anything that can help im willing to read/try! Thank you all for your support and understanding and willingness to listen! its such a relief! Before I would never talk to anyone because there is no way they would understand. - > > > > > > > > Good Evening Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am new here and just recently was able to put a name with my mothers actions and emotions, I began seeing a counselor with my boyfriend due to excess fighting because of major outside influences on our relationship and doubts that I have due to things my mother says about his and my relationship. I am 21 years old and she has always had a temper and been verbally and physically abusive to my older sister of (23 years) and I. > > > > > > > > When I began going to the counselor I told her a little about my mothers behavior and actions and she said it sounded like my mother has BPD, and told me to read Stop Walking on Eggshells which I just picked up at the bookstore this morning. It has helped immensely in the few hours I have been reading it! My mother fits eight of the signs of BPD and is *DEFIANTLY* an Invisible BPD. > > > > > > > > I have been with my boyfriend almost three years and my mother and I always fight because she has been abusive ever since I can remember (seemingly more after my father passed away when I was 8 years old) she has raging fits and tempers and will be destructive to anything, usually things she knows I care about or enjoy... like ruining my favorite book, or kicking in a painting my great grandmother painted or worse.... smothering my sister and I with a pillow, or holding knives to me, or pulling my hair out..... I have become very hyper-vigilant and insecure with myself and not trusting of anyone.... (ex: Issues with my boyfriend) > > > > > > > > Glad to see im not alone, and I hope to be able to talk and have someone to listen! > > > > > > > > Good luck to you all! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 It really is crazy how much bpd parents can really f**k with you. I always thought it was normal until my sister pointed it out. I was so sheltered and never got out much I thought every family was like that, but now that I see the difference it makes me very bitter and angry toward my mother, yet at the same time I feel guilty and sad for her because its not her fault she has bpd. I try to tell her she has an issue (made that mistake before reading Stop Walking on Eggshells) and she flipped it onto me " No, im fine. Im worried about you though, you have some sort of mental issue and I really wish you would get help. " ... and it really started to mess with me, because I started to believe it) It makes me even more bitter because I feel like I am a burden to everyone, and that everyone just " puts up with me " to be nice, I get stressed out when people raise their voice or when I get suggestive criticism, I feel like every choice I make is wrong or not good enough and Im finally seeing Im this way because of the environment I grew up in. I think a RE is a great suggestion (many people have told me to do it, including my sis ... it just the point of getting emotionally there.... I dont know at what point I'll say enough is enough... and I honesty do not want to wait to see what that point is..... ) I never considered what she did emotional blackmail before... but what you said is COMPLETELY TRUE! it is emotional blackmail! and I have been nothing but tied up to her because of it.... how is it we let people make us feel the way our bpd parents do? If ANYONE else (such as my boyfriend) did what my mother does to me I would *RUN* out of the relationship and not even second guess it. I am headed to the bookstore now to get those two books you recommended! anything that can help im willing to read/try! Thank you all for your support and understanding and willingness to listen! its such a relief! Before I would never talk to anyone because there is no way they would understand. - > > > > > > > > Good Evening Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am new here and just recently was able to put a name with my mothers actions and emotions, I began seeing a counselor with my boyfriend due to excess fighting because of major outside influences on our relationship and doubts that I have due to things my mother says about his and my relationship. I am 21 years old and she has always had a temper and been verbally and physically abusive to my older sister of (23 years) and I. > > > > > > > > When I began going to the counselor I told her a little about my mothers behavior and actions and she said it sounded like my mother has BPD, and told me to read Stop Walking on Eggshells which I just picked up at the bookstore this morning. It has helped immensely in the few hours I have been reading it! My mother fits eight of the signs of BPD and is *DEFIANTLY* an Invisible BPD. > > > > > > > > I have been with my boyfriend almost three years and my mother and I always fight because she has been abusive ever since I can remember (seemingly more after my father passed away when I was 8 years old) she has raging fits and tempers and will be destructive to anything, usually things she knows I care about or enjoy... like ruining my favorite book, or kicking in a painting my great grandmother painted or worse.... smothering my sister and I with a pillow, or holding knives to me, or pulling my hair out..... I have become very hyper-vigilant and insecure with myself and not trusting of anyone.... (ex: Issues with my boyfriend) > > > > > > > > Glad to see im not alone, and I hope to be able to talk and have someone to listen! > > > > > > > > Good luck to you all! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Here's a quote I read today or yesterday. I can't remember what book but a psychiatrist said it: I'm a healthy person and so I don't plan my life around whether other people like me or not. I want to embroider that on a pillow!!! On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Simpson wrote: > > > *It makes me even more bitter because I feel like I am a burden to > everyone, > > and that everyone just " puts up with me " to be nice, I get stressed out > when > people raise their voice or when I get suggestive criticism, I feel like > every choice I make is wrong or not good enough and Im finally seeing Im > this way because of the environment I grew up in. * > > I know the feeling. It sucks because I desperately used to want some > kindness in my life but then when people were kind I thought they were just > putting up with me. I used to have a very hard time with jobs because I > just broke down when I got criticism(once on a quality score I got 7/10 as > a > brand new hire and broke into tears). I also always over analyzed every > choice I made and determined I should have made the other one. > > Myself I am in therapy and coming to terms with these negitave thoughts. > Hang in there. You are not alone in these feelings and recognizing that it > is a product of environment and not you is a great step. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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