Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yeah you see why I myself have not yet considered chelation (aside from the amalgams) is that I'd be afraid of throwing MY already mineral/electrolyte challenged kids off.But I know lots of people are successful with it. So, ya know, like some people choose SSRI *and I don't* I just shrug and say, ok it works and has worked for them. :-) Whenever I have medical questions I don’t know the answer to I ask Kathy on who runs the Northern New York Autism Clinic. She always has an open mind to new things and will do anything to help kids. After ’s post I asked Kathy to explain to me why chelation is so dangerous? Marcia FYI: Here is her answer: From: NNY Autism Clinic Autism Clinic Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:56 AMTo: and Marcia HindsSubject: Re: chelation Gosh, there are a lot of side effects but I guess the big one is the heart arrthymias. I think that is why you have the sudden deaths, and why chelation should be done in the Hospital where you can closely monitor the electrolytes. This is particularly true with children. The other problem is the damage that chelation causes. Studies have shown that the effect of chelation on normal subjects (they used lab rats) is detrimental and I think that is why the American Academy of Pediatrics changed their lead level standards. You are trying to prevent retardation by chelating the lead out and chelation itself causes retardation. So that's tricky. I think that is why NIMH stopped their study on chelation and autism. E. on RN, MSNDirectorNNY Autism Clinicautismclinic2@... www.nnyautismcenter.com To: " on, Kathy " Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 9:50:51 AMSubject: chelation Can you explain to me why you think chelation is so dangerous medically? -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well said Tammy. It's difficult to have an engaging, informational conversation when you have to run it by the " does it make who gave us funding a profit? " committee. :)laura > > > > Whenever I have medical questions I don't know the answer to I ask Kathy > > on who runs the Northern New York Autism Clinic. She always has an > > open mind to new things and will do anything to help kids. After 's > > post I asked Kathy to explain to me why chelation is so dangerous? > > > > Marcia > > > > > > > > FYI: Here is her answer: > > > > > > > > From: NNY Autism Clinic Autism Clinic [mailto:autismclinic2@] > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:56 AM > > To: and Marcia Hinds > > Subject: Re: chelation > > > > > > > > Gosh, there are a lot of side effects but I guess the big one is the heart > > arrthymias. I think that is why you have the sudden deaths, and why > > chelation should be done in the Hospital where you can closely monitor the > > electrolytes. This is particularly true with children. The other problem is > > the damage that chelation causes. Studies have shown that the effect of > > chelation on normal subjects (they used lab rats) is detrimental and I think > > that is why the American Academy of Pediatrics changed their lead level > > standards. You are trying to prevent retardation by chelating the lead out > > and chelation itself causes retardation. So that's tricky. I think that is > > why NIMH stopped their study on chelation and autism. > > > > > > > > E. on RN, MSN > > Director > > NNY Autism Clinic > > > > autismclinic2@ > > www.nnyautismcenter.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@> > > To: " on, Kathy " <autismclinic2@> > > Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 9:50:51 AM > > Subject: chelation > > > > Can you explain to me why you think chelation is so dangerous medically? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well said Tammy. It's difficult to have an engaging, informational conversation when you have to run it by the " does it make who gave us funding a profit? " committee. :)laura > > > > Whenever I have medical questions I don't know the answer to I ask Kathy > > on who runs the Northern New York Autism Clinic. She always has an > > open mind to new things and will do anything to help kids. After 's > > post I asked Kathy to explain to me why chelation is so dangerous? > > > > Marcia > > > > > > > > FYI: Here is her answer: > > > > > > > > From: NNY Autism Clinic Autism Clinic [mailto:autismclinic2@] > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:56 AM > > To: and Marcia Hinds > > Subject: Re: chelation > > > > > > > > Gosh, there are a lot of side effects but I guess the big one is the heart > > arrthymias. I think that is why you have the sudden deaths, and why > > chelation should be done in the Hospital where you can closely monitor the > > electrolytes. This is particularly true with children. The other problem is > > the damage that chelation causes. Studies have shown that the effect of > > chelation on normal subjects (they used lab rats) is detrimental and I think > > that is why the American Academy of Pediatrics changed their lead level > > standards. You are trying to prevent retardation by chelating the lead out > > and chelation itself causes retardation. So that's tricky. I think that is > > why NIMH stopped their study on chelation and autism. > > > > > > > > E. on RN, MSN > > Director > > NNY Autism Clinic > > > > autismclinic2@ > > www.nnyautismcenter.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: and Marcia Hinds <hindssite@> > > To: " on, Kathy " <autismclinic2@> > > Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 9:50:51 AM > > Subject: chelation > > > > Can you explain to me why you think chelation is so dangerous medically? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Comment below: Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ > > Thank you, Suzanne. > Let me say that I am a total wuss as I can't even bring myself to do the challenge test. I've never done a challenge test. I don't personally like them and I wouldn't personally do one on my son. But that's just me. I prefer AC chelation. No challenge test needed or required. I know there are many kids that have done well with IV and high dose oral chelation. I can't really comment on that much because I've never done it. I did do DAN oral chelation with DMSA at a high dose for a very brief period of time and my son did not react well to it. I didn't stay on it long enough to see if it would even out, I thought it was more of a risk than I was willing to take. Once we started AC chelation, amazing things happened and we test his mineral levels regularly. Never had anything bad come out of it for us. I do know that even AC chelation has been intolerable to some kids but I don't think the reaction is anywhere near as severe for most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Comment below: Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ > > Thank you, Suzanne. > Let me say that I am a total wuss as I can't even bring myself to do the challenge test. I've never done a challenge test. I don't personally like them and I wouldn't personally do one on my son. But that's just me. I prefer AC chelation. No challenge test needed or required. I know there are many kids that have done well with IV and high dose oral chelation. I can't really comment on that much because I've never done it. I did do DAN oral chelation with DMSA at a high dose for a very brief period of time and my son did not react well to it. I didn't stay on it long enough to see if it would even out, I thought it was more of a risk than I was willing to take. Once we started AC chelation, amazing things happened and we test his mineral levels regularly. Never had anything bad come out of it for us. I do know that even AC chelation has been intolerable to some kids but I don't think the reaction is anywhere near as severe for most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 You might look into the Andy Cutler (AC) chelation protocol, which uses very low, frequent doses and is safe. But yes, you would have to get the amalgams out first. Maggied > > Yeah you see why I myself have not yet considered chelation (aside from the > amalgams) is that I'd be afraid of throwing MY already mineral/electrolyte > challenged kids off. > > But I know lots of people are successful with it. So, ya know, like some > people choose SSRI *and I don't* > I just shrug and say, ok it works and has worked for them. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 You might look into the Andy Cutler (AC) chelation protocol, which uses very low, frequent doses and is safe. But yes, you would have to get the amalgams out first. Maggied > > Yeah you see why I myself have not yet considered chelation (aside from the > amalgams) is that I'd be afraid of throwing MY already mineral/electrolyte > challenged kids off. > > But I know lots of people are successful with it. So, ya know, like some > people choose SSRI *and I don't* > I just shrug and say, ok it works and has worked for them. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 You might look into the Andy Cutler (AC) chelation protocol, which uses very low, frequent doses and is safe. But yes, you would have to get the amalgams out first. Maggied > > Yeah you see why I myself have not yet considered chelation (aside from the > amalgams) is that I'd be afraid of throwing MY already mineral/electrolyte > challenged kids off. > > But I know lots of people are successful with it. So, ya know, like some > people choose SSRI *and I don't* > I just shrug and say, ok it works and has worked for them. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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