Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Hi Laurie, Welcome back! It's nice to hear your voice again. (I was thinking of you when I was posting on the Food and Feelings Board. Someone is having lap band surgery and that is a very provocative issue. I thought, where is Laurie now as she's good at debate. But then I thought, well, who knows she might be debating against me! :)Laurie,I don't think that we have to eat the food until we're sick of it --to take the glitter off of it--so it feels like "ordinary" food.If I do this (and I'm sure I have)--then all I'm doing is depriving myself. (I deprive myself when I put food in my body that my body doesn't want; it then messes up my eating schedule/routine.If I am so busy doing these academic exercises about proving to myself that I can eat, for example, m n m's, then I will have made my body full from m n' m's. So a few hours later--I have what Roth calls empty fullness. I'm not satisfied. This is because I haven't listened to what my body really wanted. It might have wanted a "butterfinger" or spaghetti (who knows).A few weeks ago I posted on the Long Haul site about eating 11 keebler chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. (I think I stopped at 11 ) These were new cookies for me and I was finding them very delicious and my hunger was also big (or felt bigger than my mind/judgment part thought was acceptable.) I had eaten a whole row of the cookies (there are three rows) and I still wanted more! What I did during that meal is I opened up permission. I let myself go (heaven forbid!) to the second row--I took several more and I sat down at the table with no distractions and enjoyed and savored them. Once I had given myself full permission, I was able to hear my natural limitand actually didn't eat all of the cookies I had brought to the table.Afterwards, I decided that I needed to have those cookies in my house--because I didn't want a sense of deprivation about them. I wanted a sense of abundance. (I also have kids who might eat them up) I actually went to two stores to find them. I purchased three packages.What's interesting (and kind of sad in some ways ) is that those cookies are still sitting untouched in our cupboard. I remember how delicious they were and how I enjoyed them, but I am waiting for my hunger/natural cravings (for this specific type food) to come up. When this happens, I will get to enjoy them again.My point here, is that abundance is more "a state of mind," which we can create by self caring words and sometime stocking up. >> Hi Everyone, > I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then the stress will be just waiting to see how things go.> > I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!!> > As far as food goes..wow..it's much more of a challenge when my level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are messing with me sometimes!!> > I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and I used to go five days in a row before I can stop.> > What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body that's already big. I'm not beating myself up.> > But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain foods that are still "special" and I have no will power to eat a "normal" amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb weight gain cause I don't stop at a> normal amount. > > I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then there are foods that are still "special" so how can I be the normal eater I want to be around those foods?> > I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!!> > Laurie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hi , There are certain foods that used to be restricted and they're ordinary; if I had a slice of pizza today, I wouldn't want it tomorrow and I feel comfortable with it; same for cookies, pretty much same for chocolate. But there are a few certain foods that I think I could eat every day for 10 days, lol, before I tired of them, and Chicken parm is one of them, so I don't want to do that because I'll get over wanting it if I did, but I know I'd gain a good amount of weight if I had it that much cause right now I can't eat a "normal" amount; it's too tempting. Laurie To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 9:43:09 PMSubject: Re: Been so busy!!! Hi Lori, I'm new here so first let me say hi! My question is this: if you went to your favorite Italian place tonight and ate your fill (whatever that may be) of chicken parm would you want it again tomorrow? Next week? Next month? I'm going through this myself now with fish and chips. It's something I've hated my whole life but now want at every meal. For now I'm playing along (well not every meal) but am a little nervous how long this will last. On Jan 31, 2010, at 7:13 PM, lori <laurietessyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Everyone, I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then the stress will be just waiting to see how things go.I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!!As far as food goes..wow..it' s much more of a challenge when my level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are messing with me sometimes!!I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and I used to go five days in a row before I can stop.What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body that's already big. I'm not beating myself up.But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain foods that are still "special" and I have no will power to eat a "normal" amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb weight gain cause I don't stop at anormal amount. I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then there are foods that are still "special" so how can I be the normal eater I want to be around those foods?I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!!Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hi Abigail, I know you're right; I know if I have the chicken parm ten or twelve times I'd be fine with it, but the catch 22 I'm dealing with is I've gained a bit of weight when I'd stopped exercising and I am ok with my size now, but honestly not really wanting to put on more weight while I legalize the chicken parm. i know it would work to legalize it and I know I'll gain some weight and I feel like I don't want to gain more weight right now. I was thinking of having it once a week. I guess if I had it for ten days in a row the weight gain would be temporary and then lost again, but at my age I don't think weight comes off my body easily so I'm not sure it would come off so I'm not sure I can legalize this food. I don't seem ever to not want it no matter how many times I eat it. I've been lenient and had it three nights in a row and each time I can't stop at a "normal amount" and I've ordered it about once every two weeks prior to that and still it's my nemesis I suppose. It's just chicken and mozzarella and sauce; why is that so irresistable? Well, it's fried :.) I react to it like it's a drug I'm addicted to. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 9:47:52 PMSubject: Re: Been so busy!!! Laurie, It sounds to me like you still haven't legalizd chicken parm for yourself. Your fear that if you eat as much as you want you will gain weight. which is making you choose salad instead some of the time... which means that when you do allow yourself to have the chicken parm, you eat more than you need or want. But if you think about it, you are eating more than you want because it is limited and special. What if you know that as SOON as you wanted more, you could have it? dont you think then it would be easier to eat only until you are full/satisfied, and then stop? My suggestion would be to order way more than you could possibly eat, and then bring home tons of leftovers, and promise yourself that you can have more anytime you want it! And then KEEP that promise to yourself! But the next time you get hungry, tell yourself that you can have whatever you want.... and then ask if you WANT the chicken parm right then, or would you prefer something else? And then go with what you are truly craving. but keep lots of chicken parm around and at the ready for the next time you want it. this is a really powerful exercise and taught me that i could trust myself. it's pretty amazing! i remember when i first started IE, i read about someone buying five giant bags of chips at the supermarket, and feeling proud for not being embarrassed in the checkout line... and taking them home and sitting down at the kitchen table and eating them very consciously. .. it was really cool to read about this, and see all the others in the group cheering her on. good luck! abby On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:13 PM, lori <laurietessyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Everyone, I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then the stress will be just waiting to see how things go.I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!!As far as food goes..wow..it's much more of a challenge when my level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are messing with me sometimes!!I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and I used to go five days in a row before I can stop.What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body that's already big. I'm not beating myself up.But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain foods that are still "special" and I have no will power to eat a "normal" amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb weight gain cause I don't stop at anormal amount. I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then there are foods that are still "special" so how can I be the normal eater I want to be around those foods?I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!!Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hi Abigail, I know you're right; I know if I have the chicken parm ten or twelve times I'd be fine with it, but the catch 22 I'm dealing with is I've gained a bit of weight when I'd stopped exercising and I am ok with my size now, but honestly not really wanting to put on more weight while I legalize the chicken parm. i know it would work to legalize it and I know I'll gain some weight and I feel like I don't want to gain more weight right now. I was thinking of having it once a week. I guess if I had it for ten days in a row the weight gain would be temporary and then lost again, but at my age I don't think weight comes off my body easily so I'm not sure it would come off so I'm not sure I can legalize this food. I don't seem ever to not want it no matter how many times I eat it. I've been lenient and had it three nights in a row and each time I can't stop at a "normal amount" and I've ordered it about once every two weeks prior to that and still it's my nemesis I suppose. It's just chicken and mozzarella and sauce; why is that so irresistable? Well, it's fried :.) I react to it like it's a drug I'm addicted to. Laurie To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 9:47:52 PMSubject: Re: Been so busy!!! Laurie, It sounds to me like you still haven't legalizd chicken parm for yourself. Your fear that if you eat as much as you want you will gain weight. which is making you choose salad instead some of the time... which means that when you do allow yourself to have the chicken parm, you eat more than you need or want. But if you think about it, you are eating more than you want because it is limited and special. What if you know that as SOON as you wanted more, you could have it? dont you think then it would be easier to eat only until you are full/satisfied, and then stop? My suggestion would be to order way more than you could possibly eat, and then bring home tons of leftovers, and promise yourself that you can have more anytime you want it! And then KEEP that promise to yourself! But the next time you get hungry, tell yourself that you can have whatever you want.... and then ask if you WANT the chicken parm right then, or would you prefer something else? And then go with what you are truly craving. but keep lots of chicken parm around and at the ready for the next time you want it. this is a really powerful exercise and taught me that i could trust myself. it's pretty amazing! i remember when i first started IE, i read about someone buying five giant bags of chips at the supermarket, and feeling proud for not being embarrassed in the checkout line... and taking them home and sitting down at the kitchen table and eating them very consciously. .. it was really cool to read about this, and see all the others in the group cheering her on. good luck! abby On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:13 PM, lori <laurietessyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Everyone, I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then the stress will be just waiting to see how things go.I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!!As far as food goes..wow..it's much more of a challenge when my level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are messing with me sometimes!!I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and I used to go five days in a row before I can stop.What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body that's already big. I'm not beating myself up.But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain foods that are still "special" and I have no will power to eat a "normal" amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb weight gain cause I don't stop at anormal amount. I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then there are foods that are still "special" so how can I be the normal eater I want to be around those foods?I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!!Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 hi Laurie, i can sort of relate to what you're saying, i think, tho my circumstances are different. i've gained 20 lbs in this past year in part from becoming way more sedentary due to agoraphobia and other anxiety, perhaps due to some of the medications i'm on and from partially easing up on restricting my eating. i feel like i haven't even really begun the IE process and i've already gained weight. i feel like my body really has the starvation mode in high gear! i'm a size 18/20 and have partially accepted the way my body is now. i feel very sad and sometimes panicky thinking about becoming larger, espcially since i am not eating all that differently. anyway...mainly just wanted to say what you wrote resonated with me... good luck with your journey, jen todd > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the > > > earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this > > > upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then > > > the stress will be just waiting to see how things go. > > > > > > I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!! > > > > > > As far as food goes..wow..it' s much more of a challenge when my > > > level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are > > > messing with me sometimes!! > > > > > > I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and > > > I used to go five days in a row before I can stop. > > > > > > What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till > > > about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, > > > but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to > > > get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to > > > stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used > > > to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm > > > not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next > > > day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, > > > but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body > > > that's already big. I'm not beating myself up. > > > > > > But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer > > > that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but > > > sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to > > > be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain > > > foods that are still " special " and I have no will power to eat a > > > " normal " amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can > > > have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian > > > restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to > > > stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I > > > want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large > > > variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm > > > cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I > > > avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in > > > a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb > > > weight gain cause I don't stop at a > > > normal amount. > > > > > > I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is > > > restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have > > > the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick > > > the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a > > > normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then > > > there are foods that are still " special " so how can I be the normal > > > eater I want to be around those foods? > > > > > > I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!! > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 hi Laurie, i can sort of relate to what you're saying, i think, tho my circumstances are different. i've gained 20 lbs in this past year in part from becoming way more sedentary due to agoraphobia and other anxiety, perhaps due to some of the medications i'm on and from partially easing up on restricting my eating. i feel like i haven't even really begun the IE process and i've already gained weight. i feel like my body really has the starvation mode in high gear! i'm a size 18/20 and have partially accepted the way my body is now. i feel very sad and sometimes panicky thinking about becoming larger, espcially since i am not eating all that differently. anyway...mainly just wanted to say what you wrote resonated with me... good luck with your journey, jen todd > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the > > > earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this > > > upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then > > > the stress will be just waiting to see how things go. > > > > > > I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!! > > > > > > As far as food goes..wow..it' s much more of a challenge when my > > > level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are > > > messing with me sometimes!! > > > > > > I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and > > > I used to go five days in a row before I can stop. > > > > > > What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till > > > about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, > > > but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to > > > get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to > > > stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used > > > to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm > > > not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next > > > day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, > > > but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body > > > that's already big. I'm not beating myself up. > > > > > > But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer > > > that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but > > > sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to > > > be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain > > > foods that are still " special " and I have no will power to eat a > > > " normal " amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can > > > have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian > > > restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to > > > stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I > > > want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large > > > variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm > > > cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I > > > avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in > > > a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb > > > weight gain cause I don't stop at a > > > normal amount. > > > > > > I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is > > > restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have > > > the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick > > > the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a > > > normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then > > > there are foods that are still " special " so how can I be the normal > > > eater I want to be around those foods? > > > > > > I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!! > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 hi Laurie, i can sort of relate to what you're saying, i think, tho my circumstances are different. i've gained 20 lbs in this past year in part from becoming way more sedentary due to agoraphobia and other anxiety, perhaps due to some of the medications i'm on and from partially easing up on restricting my eating. i feel like i haven't even really begun the IE process and i've already gained weight. i feel like my body really has the starvation mode in high gear! i'm a size 18/20 and have partially accepted the way my body is now. i feel very sad and sometimes panicky thinking about becoming larger, espcially since i am not eating all that differently. anyway...mainly just wanted to say what you wrote resonated with me... good luck with your journey, jen todd > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I don't want you all to think I've fallen off the face of the > > > earth!!! I was very busy with paperwork and got 99% of it in; this > > > upcoming week I aught to have all the rest taken care of and then > > > the stress will be just waiting to see how things go. > > > > > > I am sorry, I haven't even had time to read any of your emails!! > > > > > > As far as food goes..wow..it' s much more of a challenge when my > > > level of stress is extremely high...and I also think my harmones are > > > messing with me sometimes!! > > > > > > I have to say that I haven't had any lengthy periods of binging, and > > > I used to go five days in a row before I can stop. > > > > > > What I'm doing now instead is an improvement; I'll be fine till > > > about 6pm or so, and even then I will have waited til hungry to eat, > > > but that meal is way, way bigger than any human being would need to > > > get full; I think I'm having a big feast, lol. I have zero will to > > > stop eating!!! But then after, when I'm over-full, whereas I used > > > to continue to binge through the night and into the next day, I'm > > > not doing that. I'm not eating and just waiting til hungry the next > > > day. So big improvement from what I used to do when very stressed, > > > but still eating enough to create a bit of weight gain on a body > > > that's already big. I'm not beating myself up. > > > > > > But I am confused about the eat what you want; I am a true believer > > > that if we eat what we want enough it will lose its specialness, but > > > sometimes I think the amount I'd have to eat to get those foods to > > > be ordinary would create a bunch more weight gain. I have certain > > > foods that are still " special " and I have no will power to eat a > > > " normal " amount. Lots of foods, that I used to restrict, I can > > > have and not overeat, but certain foods like a great Italian > > > restaurant version of chicken parm......well, that is too hard to > > > stop eating right now. I think the goal is balance; I don't think I > > > want to be a health extremist, but I sure want to eat a large > > > variety of healthy foods but I sure can't restrict the chicken parm > > > cause you can bet that will lead to an all out binge of it unless I > > > avoid it forever. But I don't really want to have it ten times in > > > a row til it seems ordinary because that will be another 20 Lb > > > weight gain cause I don't stop at a > > > normal amount. > > > > > > I know my goal is a healthy, balanced way of eating where no food is > > > restricted but sometimes I don't know in the moment whether to have > > > the chicken parm AGAIN to make it more ordinary, or whether to pick > > > the salad because it's so good for me. If I could just have a > > > normal balance of variety of foods that would be great, but then > > > there are foods that are still " special " so how can I be the normal > > > eater I want to be around those foods? > > > > > > I still don't feel like I have all the answers!!! > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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