Re: Fw: Resenting IE

[Guest guest]

Hi ,Wow - I actually just got on here to whine a little bit and read your email. Amen sister! You said a mouthful. No pun intended! I think you just said exactly what I have been trying to wrap around my head. My daughter just had her second child so I am here with her in tx, watching my three year old grandson, cleaning everything, worrying about my very elderly parents back home, etc etc..... Great excuses to binge and then feel like crap and whine! You're right - IE should be easy! But when I had four cookies last night after some taco bell did I feel good? No! Why then? Because food still has a hold on me. Luckily it is warm here and I actuallydo love to walk so I am going out in a few. So, now what? I even dreamed I gained weight last night and that's not the goal with IE??!! I just

want my head straight.Subject: Fw: Resenting IETo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:58 AM

----- Forwarded Message ----To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:45:57 AMSubject: Re: Resenting IE

I know exactly what your saying. But the truth is that we use food for other reasons than fuel for our body. The voice in the head can make you crazy (if you let it). I am finding that the hardest part of "staying on track" is to manage the voice in our head. Its very easy to let that voice run the show especially when our lives are really busy and chaotic, the voice in your head is very cleaver. It can manipulate you and you don't even realize its happening (so you tell your self) until you decide to weight yourself one morning and your up 10 pounds. Its very simple so how come its such a struggle? In my mind I have had a good day of a bad day. And if you translate that it all comes back to I was on my diet or I was off my diet. I agree completely with the overall concept of IE and that diets do not work. I agree with all of Geneen Roths teachings that every diet leads to a binge. So why cant we just eat what we want when we are hungry and

live happily ever after? That voice in the head is soooo sneaky. We give into it so easily because we then get to have a fix. Our relieve FOOD and that's when the cycle starts. That fix had nothing to do with hunger. Food is the way we numb our selves. At this point in my life I know there is no "fix" for this it just has to be managed. I am currently up 10 pounds and this is a result of believing all of my bullshit excuses I have been telling my self for the last 2 months. I have been working 10 hour days and I convinced myself that I have no time for food shopping or any exercise. But have had lots of time to get take out 2 time a day. So it was much easier to believe the bullshit I was telling myself because if I challenged my thoughts and realized they were not true I would not have been able to continue my binges. So what I am realizing is that as much as I keep

telling myself over and over again how stuffing food into my body makes me feel really bad after i am so stuffed I cant move. We have given all the power to the cheeseburger like it is some kind of magic wand. We have given all our power to the food. As much as we know Diets don't work. And we agree with the IE principals that all food should be equal and there are no forbidden foods. How come nobody is binging on broccoli or celery sticks??? What I am finally realizing is at some point in my life I gave food the meaning it has. And it has nothing to do with the food itself. I guess at some point when i was a kid got what i needed at the time from overeating. The Alcoholic gave the booze all its power. The shopaholic put all her power to the new boots. The Gambler gave all their power to the bet. In our case its the food. What do you think?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support@...Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:54:53 PMSubject: Resenting IE

This is a vent, and ask for ideas post. I'm feeling frustrated with IE right now. For one, I have two small children, who are home with me most all the time still. The oldest is in preschool 3 mornings a week, but that's it. The only meal I have any peace at is dinner, and even that is small peace. Trying to eat peacefully and mindfully is difficult at best and with their ages, I can't not eat around them. I know, I do eat less when not constantly distracted and interrupted by them, and that often I eat more because of the stress a meal can be. But at the same time, I'm too close to the situation and don't know what to do about it. Secondly, I never get to eat what I want! Okay, that sounds like a crazy statement. Isn't part of IE allowing ourselves, giving ourselves permission to eat what we want. Well, I want ice cream and cookies and candy. I don't however want those items for breakfast, lunch or dinner. At those times of

the day, I want the appropriate types of foods. Then, it turns out, most of my eating has been stress induced, not hunger, and it comes around, that I'm almost never hungry when I mentally want, or my taste-buds (still not my stomach,) wants the junk. Then I hear the voices in my head. I hear the diet voices, saying, "Oh the calories and the fat! horrors, tsk." and I even hear the IE voice saying, "you can have that if you want it, it is okay, but do you really want it?" Turns out the answer is usually no, I don't really want that. (I too have found I don't really like mochas, even though I used to drink many.) I'm starting to resent that gentle IE voice, because even though it's telling me I can have it, it also feels like it's telling me I can't because the answer is, I don't really want it, and that's part of IE learning that difference so I don't eat it, and I have wonderful yummy peppermint ice cream going bad in my freezer and it's December and I

have all sorts of holiday goodies in my pantry, and they are going to rot there before I reach the 'right' hunger to eat them!So, anyone got any ideas? What's wrong here. I should be happy that I'm distinguishing better between my head, mouth and emotional hunger and my true stomach hunger. Instead, I'm getting upset and resentful.Dawn

[Guest guest]

The thing is how many more books can we read how many more cd's can we listen to. We have all the knowledge and know the reasons but yet we keep going back to binging. The simple questions is Why, after we make the commitment to ourselves to take charge of our eating does the urge to eat and eat allot appear? And then the voices chime in. Here we go again we had a plan we bought all the (right) foods, We have read every book cover to cover we know why we do what we do but by the time the smoke clears you have stuffed your face with every thing that was not nailed down. If we keep overeating it keeps the focus on that and off the reasons we are stuffing the food in the first place. As bad as we know we are gonna feel after we are so full we feel sick, The short lived feelings we are getting

during the eating phase wins every time. I am finding that if I can give my negative voice in my head a name it is easier to identify it as the the problem. It makes it easier to separate the internal talk that goes on in your head at all times. It gives me the ability to sort or analyze the voice in my head as someone who is trying to sabotage my efforts stay on track.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 6:49:07 AMSubject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

Hi , Wow - I actually just got on here to whine a little bit and read your email. Amen sister! You said a mouthful. No pun intended! I think you just said exactly what I have been trying to wrap around my head. My daughter just had her second child so I am here with her in tx, watching my three year old grandson, cleaning everything, worrying about my very elderly parents back home, etc etc..... Great excuses to binge and then feel like crap and whine! You're right - IE should be easy! But when I had four cookies last night after some taco bell did I feel good? No! Why then? Because food still has a hold on me. Luckily it is warm here and I actuallydo love to walk so I am going out in a few. So, now what? I even dreamed I gained weight last night and that's not the goal with IE??!! I just want my head straight.

Subject: Fw: Resenting IETo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 7:58 AM

----- Forwarded Message ----To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 6:45:57 AMSubject: Re: Resenting IE

I know exactly what your saying. But the truth is that we use food for other reasons than fuel for our body. The voice in the head can make you crazy (if you let it). I am finding that the hardest part of "staying on track" is to manage the voice in our head. Its very easy to let that voice run the show especially when our lives are really busy and chaotic, the voice in your head is very cleaver. It can manipulate you and you don't even realize its happening (so you tell your self) until you decide to weight yourself one morning and your up 10 pounds. Its very simple so how come its such a struggle? In my mind I have had a good day of a bad day. And if you translate that it all comes back to I was on my diet or I was off my diet. I agree completely with the overall concept of IE and that diets do not work. I agree with all of Geneen Roths teachings that every diet leads to a binge. So why cant we just eat what we want when we are hungry and

live happily ever after? That voice in the head is soooo sneaky. We give into it so easily because we then get to have a fix. Our relieve FOOD and that's when the cycle starts. That fix had nothing to do with hunger. Food is the way we numb our selves. At this point in my life I know there is no "fix" for this it just has to be managed. I am currently up 10 pounds and this is a result of believing all of my bullshit excuses I have been telling my self for the last 2 months. I have been working 10 hour days and I convinced myself that I have no time for food shopping or any exercise. But have had lots of time to get take out 2 time a day. So it was much easier to believe the bullshit I was telling myself because if I challenged my thoughts and realized they were not true I would not have been able to continue my binges. So what I am realizing is that as much as I keep

telling myself over and over again how stuffing food into my body makes me feel really bad after i am so stuffed I cant move. We have given all the power to the cheeseburger like it is some kind of magic wand. We have given all our power to the food. As much as we know Diets don't work. And we agree with the IE principals that all food should be equal and there are no forbidden foods. How come nobody is binging on broccoli or celery sticks??? What I am finally realizing is at some point in my life I gave food the meaning it has. And it has nothing to do with the food itself. I guess at some point when i was a kid got what i needed at the time from overeating. The Alcoholic gave the booze all its power. The shopaholic put all her power to the new boots. The Gambler gave all their power to the bet. In our case its the food. What do you think?

To: IntuitiveEating_Support@...Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:54:53 PMSubject: Resenting IE

This is a vent, and ask for ideas post. I'm feeling frustrated with IE right now. For one, I have two small children, who are home with me most all the time still. The oldest is in preschool 3 mornings a week, but that's it. The only meal I have any peace at is dinner, and even that is small peace. Trying to eat peacefully and mindfully is difficult at best and with their ages, I can't not eat around them. I know, I do eat less when not constantly distracted and interrupted by them, and that often I eat more because of the stress a meal can be. But at the same time, I'm too close to the situation and don't know what to do about it. Secondly, I never get to eat what I want! Okay, that sounds like a crazy statement. Isn't part of IE allowing ourselves, giving ourselves permission to eat what we want. Well, I want ice cream and cookies and candy. I don't however want those items for breakfast, lunch or dinner. At those times of

the day, I want the appropriate types of foods. Then, it turns out, most of my eating has been stress induced, not hunger, and it comes around, that I'm almost never hungry when I mentally want, or my taste-buds (still not my stomach,) wants the junk. Then I hear the voices in my head. I hear the diet voices, saying, "Oh the calories and the fat! horrors, tsk." and I even hear the IE voice saying, "you can have that if you want it, it is okay, but do you really want it?" Turns out the answer is usually no, I don't really want that. (I too have found I don't really like mochas, even though I used to drink many.) I'm starting to resent that gentle IE voice, because even though it's telling me I can have it, it also feels like it's telling me I can't because the answer is, I don't really want it, and that's part of IE learning that difference so I don't eat it, and I have wonderful yummy peppermint ice cream going bad in my freezer and it's December and I

have all sorts of holiday goodies in my pantry, and they are going to rot there before I reach the 'right' hunger to eat them!So, anyone got any ideas? What's wrong here. I should be happy that I'm distinguishing better between my head, mouth and emotional hunger and my true stomach hunger. Instead, I'm getting upset and resentful.Dawn

[Guest guest]

HI,

I totally agree that we know it all & don't really need any more books or tapes

on the subject. I think that the reason I keep reading them is that it helps me

to keep being reminded about all that I already know but that I keep slipping

away from. I seem to need daily reminding about how the " voice " isn't my real

voice, that the habits that I've developed aren't serving me anymore & that I

need to practice new habits & that if I can develop a kinder, gentler " voice " I

won't need to overeat as much as I used to. And eventually, all of these NEW

practices will become just what I do as a normal course of my day. But until

then, I'm probably going to have to read the books & listen to the tapes over &

over until I don't need them anymore. It's taken 56 years to install all of

these old programs so it might take a few years & some work to change them into

new ones that serve me better. I'm really grateful to be on this journey & I

hope I remember to enjoy the ride & not just focus on the destination.

mj

>

> The thing is how many more books can we read how many more cd's can we listen

> to. We have all the knowledge and know the reasons but yet we keep going back

to

> binging. The simple questions is Why, after we make the commitment to

ourselves

> to take charge of our eating does the urge to eat and eat allot appear? And

then

> the voices chime in. Here we go again we had a plan we bought all the (right)

> foods, We have read every book cover to cover we know why we do what we do but

> by the time the smoke clears you have stuffed your face with every thing that

> was not nailed down. If we keep overeating it keeps the focus on that and off

> the reasons we are stuffing the food in the first place. As bad as we know we

> are gonna feel after we are so full we feel sick, The short lived feelings we

> are getting during the eating phase wins every time. I am finding that if I

can

> give my negative voice in my head a name it is easier to identify it as the

the

> problem. It makes it easier to separate the internal talk that goes on in your

> head at all times. It gives me the ability to sort or analyze the voice in my

> head as someone who is trying to sabotage my efforts stay on track.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with what you just said very much MJ. It's a little like my exercise routine. I got off track with a vacation and am really struggling to get back on track. I finally decided the other day, that I'm just going to go back to the beginning of the 6 week program I used to get me started last time. Yes, it's easier than where I was when I lost course, but, when you loose your way, you often have to go back to find it again.DawnTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 1:28:40 PMSubject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

HI,

I totally agree that we know it all & don't really need any more books or tapes on the subject. I think that the reason I keep reading them is that it helps me to keep being reminded about all that I already know but that I keep slipping away from. I seem to need daily reminding about how the "voice" isn't my real voice, that the habits that I've developed aren't serving me anymore & that I need to practice new habits & that if I can develop a kinder, gentler "voice" I won't need to overeat as much as I used to. And eventually, all of these NEW practices will become just what I do as a normal course of my day. But until then, I'm probably going to have to read the books & listen to the tapes over & over until I don't need them anymore. It's taken 56 years to install all of these old programs so it might take a few years & some work to change them into new ones that serve me better. I'm really grateful to be on this journey &

I hope I remember to enjoy the ride & not just focus on the destination.

mj

>

> The thing is how many more books can we read how many more cd's can we listen

> to. We have all the knowledge and know the reasons but yet we keep going back to

> binging. The simple questions is Why, after we make the commitment to ourselves

> to take charge of our eating does the urge to eat and eat allot appear? And then

> the voices chime in. Here we go again we had a plan we bought all the (right)

> foods, We have read every book cover to cover we know why we do what we do but

> by the time the smoke clears you have stuffed your face with every thing that

> was not nailed down. If we keep overeating it keeps the focus on that and off

> the reasons we are stuffing the food in the first place. As bad as we know we

> are gonna feel after we are so full we feel sick, The short lived feelings we

> are getting during the eating phase wins every time. I am finding that if I can

> give my negative voice in my head a name it is easier to identify it as the the

> problem. It makes it easier to separate the internal talk that goes on in your

> head at all times. It gives me the ability to sort or analyze the voice in my

> head as someone who is trying to sabotage my efforts stay on track.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with what you just said very much MJ. It's a little like my exercise routine. I got off track with a vacation and am really struggling to get back on track. I finally decided the other day, that I'm just going to go back to the beginning of the 6 week program I used to get me started last time. Yes, it's easier than where I was when I lost course, but, when you loose your way, you often have to go back to find it again.DawnTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 1:28:40 PMSubject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

HI,

I totally agree that we know it all & don't really need any more books or tapes on the subject. I think that the reason I keep reading them is that it helps me to keep being reminded about all that I already know but that I keep slipping away from. I seem to need daily reminding about how the "voice" isn't my real voice, that the habits that I've developed aren't serving me anymore & that I need to practice new habits & that if I can develop a kinder, gentler "voice" I won't need to overeat as much as I used to. And eventually, all of these NEW practices will become just what I do as a normal course of my day. But until then, I'm probably going to have to read the books & listen to the tapes over & over until I don't need them anymore. It's taken 56 years to install all of these old programs so it might take a few years & some work to change them into new ones that serve me better. I'm really grateful to be on this journey &

I hope I remember to enjoy the ride & not just focus on the destination.

mj

>

> The thing is how many more books can we read how many more cd's can we listen

> to. We have all the knowledge and know the reasons but yet we keep going back to

> binging. The simple questions is Why, after we make the commitment to ourselves

> to take charge of our eating does the urge to eat and eat allot appear? And then

> the voices chime in. Here we go again we had a plan we bought all the (right)

> foods, We have read every book cover to cover we know why we do what we do but

> by the time the smoke clears you have stuffed your face with every thing that

> was not nailed down. If we keep overeating it keeps the focus on that and off

> the reasons we are stuffing the food in the first place. As bad as we know we

> are gonna feel after we are so full we feel sick, The short lived feelings we

> are getting during the eating phase wins every time. I am finding that if I can

> give my negative voice in my head a name it is easier to identify it as the the

> problem. It makes it easier to separate the internal talk that goes on in your

> head at all times. It gives me the ability to sort or analyze the voice in my

> head as someone who is trying to sabotage my efforts stay on track.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What a great series of emails!

I think Meg really hit the nail on the head: " I haven't managed to completely quell that feeling of disappointment/frustration that I don't get to comfort myself by overeating when I'm stressed/tired/sad etc. even as I recognize that it's not really what I want or need. I think this feeling is due largely to the fact that I've used food as a source of comfort for most of my life and when I take that away as a coping method, I have to deal with my emotions some other way and I haven't really completely developed these coping methods. "

I have been doing IE for quite a while now, and I still struggle with this sometimes. Like Friday, i was so completely exhausted when i got home, and wanted to drop onto the couch and veg out with food and TV. and even while i was doing this, i was aware that the food wasn't hitting that " spot " and making feeling nurtured, because once i wasn't hungry anymore, i was still exhausted, and food wouldn't change that. and yet i didn't want to go to bed! for me, i have a VERY strong habit of wanting food when i get very tired. but it's not to keep myself awake, because i could've gone to sleep. it's like food is somehow more comforting and special when i am tired? i don't know.

anyway, on days like friday, i just try to notice and observe all these feelings, without trying to change anything. i know that when i am ready, the changes will come naturally, as so many other changes with IE have come. not to say that there hasn't been a conscious effort at times to make new habits, but it never feels overwhelmingly hard. it feels like, " yeah, i'm used to having a blow-pop with TV after dinner every night, and i'd enjoy one now, but i think i can be okay with out one. " and then i try not having that blow pop, and if it feels hard, i go ahead and have one. 

one of the things that i am still learning about IE is that it's really not about food at all. it's about accepting yourself, including your body but really so much more than that, your whole self, right here, right now, with all its imperfections. and so if you are not ready or able to give up your coping mechanisms, accept that. observe it without judgement, and do what you need to do to cope with today, and watch and see if those habits don't gradually improve with time, most of the time. in the meantime, as meg said, see if you can work on other ways of providing self care for yourself, and see if those emotional needs for food don't die down a bit.  

it is SOOOO hard to radically change your habits!!! it's exhausting and confusing, even if also exciting... like getting off a plane and it's 1 am at home but you're in germany and it's 9 am and it's bright and sunny and you're excited, but you're jet lagged and tired and you don't know what to do first, there's so many great things to see, but part of you wishes you were comfortable in your own bed in the dark. 

when i'm jetlagged, i found the best thing i can do is take a nap. even if it means it takes longer to acclimate to the time change. because being that tired is miserable. 

ok, hopefully that metaphor made sense... i'm tired myself!if not, sorry!

anyway, point being, you are doing great, and hard, work! maybe just being sympathetic to yourself would help? sort of vocalizing, wow, it's a bummer that i feel like i never get to eat cookies anymore. how can we arrange things so that you are eating when you are hungry, but still get to eat cookies? and the solution right now might be that you occasionally eat cookies when you are not hungry. and that's okay! if you make a rule that you can ONLY ever eat when hungry, it's liable to backfire on you. you can also work on keeping a little " space " in your stomach for dessert. maybe you are a person who needs to make sure she is eating dessert every day right now in order to prevent feelings of deprivation. that's fine and great! i eat chocolate every single day for this reason. it makes me not miss other sugary treats. i often have chocolate after breakfast. why not???

feel good for all the awesome progress you are making! rome wasn't built in a day!

best,abby

IE since 11/08

 

I agree with what you just said very much MJ.  It's a little like my exercise routine.  I got off track with a vacation and am really struggling to get back on track.  I finally decided the other day, that I'm just going to go back to the beginning of the 6 week program I used to get me started last time.  Yes, it's easier than where I was when I lost course, but, when you loose your way, you often have to go back to find it again.

Dawn

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 1:28:40 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

 

HI,I totally agree that we know it all & don't really need any more books or tapes on the subject. I ...

[Guest guest]

Abby-I'll reread your post again later, when I have more time, but I wanted to say now, while I"m thinking of it. Thanks. Your response had some really good points and made me feel better. I did decide 'to heck with it' it's Christmas time and I'm going to indulge even if it's for the emotional satisfaction of the memories, rather than hunger, and I"m going to be okay with that, but you expressed it in a way that makes it feel less rebellious. That will help a lot with my IE mentality. DawnPS- your FB profile picture shows you looking a bit like a friend I had who the world has lost and it made me smile. Well, your smile and the resemblance did. Thank you. It was a nice reminder.To: IntuitiveEating_Support@...Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 7:35:43 PMSubject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

What a great series of emails!

I think Meg really hit the nail on the head: "I haven't managed to completely quell that feeling of disappointment/frustration that I don't get to comfort myself by overeating when I'm stressed/tired/sad etc. even as I recognize that it's not really what I want or need. I think this feeling is due largely to the fact that I've used food as a source of comfort for most of my life and when I take that away as a coping method, I have to deal with my emotions some other way and I haven't really completely developed these coping methods. "

I have been doing IE for quite a while now, and I still struggle with this sometimes. Like Friday, i was so completely exhausted when i got home, and wanted to drop onto the couch and veg out with food and TV. and even while i was doing this, i was aware that the food wasn't hitting that "spot" and making feeling nurtured, because once i wasn't hungry anymore, i was still exhausted, and food wouldn't change that. and yet i didn't want to go to bed! for me, i have a VERY strong habit of wanting food when i get very tired. but it's not to keep myself awake, because i could've gone to sleep. it's like food is somehow more comforting and special when i am tired? i don't know.

anyway, on days like friday, i just try to notice and observe all these feelings, without trying to change anything. i know that when i am ready, the changes will come naturally, as so many other changes with IE have come. not to say that there hasn't been a conscious effort at times to make new habits, but it never feels overwhelmingly hard. it feels like, "yeah, i'm used to having a blow-pop with TV after dinner every night, and i'd enjoy one now, but i think i can be okay with out one." and then i try not having that blow pop, and if it feels hard, i go ahead and have one.

one of the things that i am still learning about IE is that it's really not about food at all. it's about accepting yourself, including your body but really so much more than that, your whole self, right here, right now, with all its imperfections. and so if you are not ready or able to give up your coping mechanisms, accept that. observe it without judgement, and do what you need to do to cope with today, and watch and see if those habits don't gradually improve with time, most of the time. in the meantime, as meg said, see if you can work on other ways of providing self care for yourself, and see if those emotional needs for food don't die down a bit.

it is SOOOO hard to radically change your habits!!! it's exhausting and confusing, even if also exciting... like getting off a plane and it's 1 am at home but you're in germany and it's 9 am and it's bright and sunny and you're excited, but you're jet lagged and tired and you don't know what to do first, there's so many great things to see, but part of you wishes you were comfortable in your own bed in the dark.

when i'm jetlagged, i found the best thing i can do is take a nap. even if it means it takes longer to acclimate to the time change. because being that tired is miserable.

ok, hopefully that metaphor made sense... i'm tired myself!if not, sorry!

anyway, point being, you are doing great, and hard, work! maybe just being sympathetic to yourself would help? sort of vocalizing, wow, it's a bummer that i feel like i never get to eat cookies anymore. how can we arrange things so that you are eating when you are hungry, but still get to eat cookies? and the solution right now might be that you occasionally eat cookies when you are not hungry. and that's okay! if you make a rule that you can ONLY ever eat when hungry, it's liable to backfire on you. you can also work on keeping a little "space" in your stomach for dessert. maybe you are a person who needs to make sure she is eating dessert every day right now in order to prevent feelings of deprivation. that's fine and great! i eat chocolate every single day for this reason. it makes me not miss other sugary treats. i often have

chocolate after breakfast. why not???

feel good for all the awesome progress you are making! rome wasn't built in a day!

best,abby

IE since 11/08

I agree with what you just said very much MJ. It's a little like my exercise routine. I got off track with a vacation and am really struggling to get back on track. I finally decided the other day, that I'm just going to go back to the beginning of the 6 week program I used to get me started last time. Yes, it's easier than where I was when I lost course, but, when you loose your way, you often have to go back to find it again.

Dawn

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 1:28:40 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Resenting IE

HI,I totally agree that we know it all & don't really need any more books or tapes on the subject. I ...