Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (((()))) I agree with the great advice you've already got - talk to a women's shelter. You need to get away from any dependence on any of these people. Have you ever applied for disability? My nada did and the approval process does take some months and they usually refuse people and make them appeal the first time - just for kicks I guess. So money will be a complicating factor, but that doesn't mean you can't start laying your plans now, talking to some advocates who can help - you shouldn't have to live this way. You deserve better! > > > This is sadly a long rant that I need to let out because I have no one to talk to anymore.... by the time you finish reading this you may understand slightly why. > > I am a medical wreck. (emotionally and physically) When I was 2 years old I was diagnosed with Celiac, Diabetes and Hypothyroidism. Two years ago I was diagnosed with a lung disease that apparently is rare known as Nonspecific Interstitial Pnemanitis... Now they think I have Autoimmune Enteropathy and s Disease. I am usually very sick, or never feel well even when I feel " better than normal " ... My boyfriend is usually pretty understanding and always supportive, or so it seems. Sometimes he seems very aloof toward my illness and acts like it isnt a huge deal even when im scared. (I was hospitalized last december due to excess weight loss and stomach issues and he left me alone usually until 9pm at night so he could go to work, take care of the dog, and go Christmas shopping...which hurt because I was scared and all alone while they were telling me different procedures/surgeries they were going to do and he was not there) But things got even more interesting when his dad had a stroke in April, he made sure to be at the hospital for his dad EVERY DAY before work and immediately after work, he would come home (to our apartment) to cook dinner for his dad and mom so they would not have to eat hospital food and take it up to them, and he even spent the night with his dad. Now is this a flea? me feeling sorry for myself? I understand its his dad and it was a scary situation... but I was just as scared losing over 40lbs in 2 months and always being in pain. So things got better with the dad a month later and he went into physical therapy, but the mother said she needed him to move home to help with his father because he was doing so poorly, she turned to me and said " you are welcome at our home too. If you love my son, then we will love you. " I love my boyfriend dearly, but his temper has gotten worse (he " accidentally " pushed me causing me to fall and hit my head on a coffee table during a fight we had. And he has been just rough in general, pushing me against walls etc etc. ... now this frightens me because my mom is bpd and is verbally and physically abusive. But I always forgive him for some stupid reason and he hasnt hurt me or been rough since that time. but that aside....) So in July we moved in with his parents, and GUESS WHAT?! the mother has an in home care nurse, the dad is able to walk, talk and eat just fine... but with a cane.... My boyfriend said he did not know his dad was doing so well otherwise we would not have given up our home together. (I feel like the mother lied and manipulated him to get him to move home, or it was all about saving money from his part.) So the last bad fight we had was in July when I was looking at my boyfriends phone when I saw a text message from his mother that says " She doesnt do anything around here, shes been here two weeks and she needs to do your (my boyfriends) laundry, put hte sheets on your (my boyfriends) bed and cook you dinner, you work full time you are tired. " > that hurt incredibly to see that, I never feel well and am always in and out of hospitals and always tired (due to possible addisons) and I do what I can, which isnt a lot... but its the best I can do. Plus my boyfriend is a grown man whose 28 years old and works a very lenient job as an IT guy..... why should I do his laundry, bed and cook for him? Im not his wife. So when I confronted her on that and the fact we moved in with them to help with the father even though she never needs help with him she blew up at me and told me to " get out and you arent sick, you use that as an excuse. I never wanted to tell my son that but its the truth! you arent sick " At that point I started crying, because my bpd mom tells me the same thing, and it makes me think im crazy and maybe im not sick maybe I think I am or something (even though blood work and etc comes back showing proof) so when I started crying she yells to me " Dont you dare start doing *THAT* cry! Dont give me that! " At that point I packed all my shit and stayed with my mom two nights, to which she went through all my belongings in my car and found the lease I had signed with my boyfriend on our apartment and then got pissed and kicked me out of her place, so lo and behold I ended back up at my boyfriends parents house.... ugh! So to make things right I apologize to my boyfriends mother and give her a hug... she never apologized to me or anything in return, I even sent her a long long message saying how I want to try to fit in with the family, and I love her son very much and I want to try to make this home..yadda yadda... she never responded to that either, she never says hi to me or talks to me when she sees me in the house. Then it comes down to her butting in when my boyfriend and I are cooking.... tonight for instance we are making tamales and we slow cooked the pork for 12 hours and stuck it in the fridge this morning, then when we got back the pork was in the slow cooker with broth covering it and it simmering.... SHE BOTHERED TO TRY OUR FOOD AND " FIX " IT FOR US! ARRRGH! maybe these are all stupid things that I should not let bother me, but I am wondering why I am even here any more! I cant talk to my own mother about these issues, and I cant talk to my boyfriend about this specific issue without fear that it will cause a fight. > > Then to make matters worse I spent yesterday with my mom, where so was her queen self until her cat got outside and she went waif on me and said " God hates me! " over and over... So I made Lost signs, called the vet clinics around town and reported it and reported it to the shelters and posted it on craigs list, while she sat there and cried, (which made me feel so bad) but then while we were looking for the cat she raged and started saying how her kids (my sister and I) are ungrateful and stupid and helpless and we are this and that, and then she went back to her waif self.... then by the time I left at 8pm she called me raging again and had taken all the lost posters I put up as well as the craigslist ad...I dont even know why..... She said it was because I lied to her about various things even though she made me swear those things on the Bible and I'm going to hell. (I do admit that I did lie to her once on that Bible ... and I felt like crap because I am catholic.. but it literally came down to lying on the bible or getting hit...) Anyways, what she was raging about happened over a year ago, so I have no idea how it even came up. But today she is fine and happy. > > I have no one to talk to anymore, I cant talk to my boyfriend about her without causing him to hate her more which stresses me out and I cant talk to my boyfriend about how I hate living with his parents and what I think about them without making him upset and I cant talk to my mom about my boyfriend/living situations without it blowing up in my face later, and I obviously cant tell her that shes crazy.... > > > I am lost and dont know where to go or what to do anymore, the tiniest things are beginning to set me off (like my boyfriends mother taking our pork and doing it HER way... it just makes me think that the way I cooked it wasnt good enough, or something.... and when I mentioned it to my boyfriend he goes " It tastes better though! " ..... Its just htings my bpd mom would do... like making the lost signs and CL ad... you work hard to do it and its not good enough.... Its never good enough. I feel like no one cares about me here, and I feel like IM STUCK here because I have no where else to go.... Im pathetic. > > are these fleas? am I overreacting because of how I grew up with my bpd mom? Any thoughts? I just need some insight because I feel like everyone is against me and im going crazy or something. > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Thank you all for being so supportive, I will look into a womans shelter right now. I have considered it before but am scared to go because I do not know how I will get my medications and doctors appointments that I need. Does the womans shelter help with that? I am applying for disability and SSI, but I work a *very very* part time job, so I do not know if I qualify for disability or not. (I work at a hospital in a research lab, and the professor I work for knows all my medical issues and lets me work an hour if thats all I can handle that day, or 5 hours if I want, or not come in at all. So he is very understanding... But I think I will be denied for being able to hold down any sort of employment.) I have slowly come to realize all the people that should be supporting me and helping me *are* abusive and bringing me down, and that is what makes me the most sad. Why is it so many people around me are all abusive and not supportive? Is it common to go from one abusive situation to another? - Im just so scared to leave because of everything that is going on. I know I need to leave, its just a matter of taking that big scary leap and hoping for the best. Again, Thank you all. You are really life savers and I feel a better knowing there are people who understand and people I can talk to. > > ; > > Your boyfriend, your mother and his parents are abusive. You need to get out of there. Consider very seriously the choice to go to a woman's shelter and never go back to any of them. With your health issues, get on disability so you won't be dependant on anyone. These people are not good for you. Especially if you are ill and these people are denying it and ignoring you. Start formulating a plan to LEAVE. > > I'm sure there are others on this list who can give you more information. We have all " left, " or are in the process or are about to or seriously planning. Me included. It's not easy but it is time to just stop taking abuse. Part of the issue is realizing it is abuse. It's a process. But these people are bad news. This group will help you. We've all been there. Once they are out of your life, your health issues will be easier to deal with - without those " rocks " tied to your ankles. > > Flowers in Oz > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > >I am lost and dont know where to go or what to do anymore, the tiniest things are beginning to set me off (like my boyfriends mother taking our pork and doing it HER way... it just makes me think that the way I cooked it wasnt good enough, or something.... and when I mentioned it to my boyfriend he goes " It tastes better though! " ..... Its just htings my bpd mom would do... like making the lost signs and CL ad... you work hard to do it and its not good enough.... Its never good enough. I feel like no one cares about me here, and I feel like IM STUCK here because I have no where else to go.... Im pathetic. > > > >are these fleas? am I overreacting because of how I grew up with my bpd mom? Any thoughts? I just need some insight because I feel like everyone is against me and im going crazy or something. > > > >- > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > **This group is based on principles in Randi Kreger's new book The Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder: New Tips and Tools to Stop Walking on Eggshells, available at www.BPDCentral.com.** Problems? Write @... DO NOT RESPOND ON THE LIST. > > > >To unsub from this list, send a blank email to WTOAdultChildren1-unsubscribe > > > >Recommended: " Toxic Parents, " " Surviving a Borderline Parent, " and " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (hard to find) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 > (((Your boyfriend, your mother and his parents are abusive}}} please listen seriously to this advice from another post- YOU really need to save yourself here- and remember you so deserve better than this. I have a BP mother- and NPD husband- I know that feeling of being emotionally and physically exhausted and done. My body just really revolted against me 2 years ago- and I was almost hospitalized-Please take care of yourself- you are worth it! Keep posting- and keep knowing you are a valuable and wonderful person!! Blessings, Malinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Hi Hon, I'm so sorry! No, the pork is not a small deal! She undermined you!!! I was in a similar situation in my early 20s. I was a college student, married etc. My husband's mother was freaking nuts - I can't even diagnose her. We rented our housing from her. Well, I got sick of her ways and I moved out and got myself my own apartment!! And it felt great!! My husband and I got back together after that for about 6 years, but of course we split up in the end because his mother was a witch and he was a passive agressive dishrag asshole. . . and splitting from him also felt great. So anyway, my point is I have been in a similar situation. . . and you can do it. and you can have better. Freedom!!! Hugs, girlscout > > > > > (((Your boyfriend, your mother and his parents are abusive}}} please > listen seriously to this advice from another post- YOU really need to save > yourself here- and remember you so deserve better than this. > > I have a BP mother- and NPD husband- I know that feeling of being > emotionally and physically exhausted and done. My body just really revolted > against me 2 years ago- and I was almost hospitalized-Please > take care of yourself- you are worth it! > > Keep posting- and keep knowing you are a valuable and wonderful person!! > > Blessings, > Malinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Kudos to you for taking those first scary steps toward rescuing yourself from your abusive mother and from your abusive boyfriend and his mean mother. Why are they so unsupportive and invalidating toward you? Well, narcissitic pd people only see others as a source of narcissistic supply for themselves. A relationship with an npd person is a very one-way street, with you doing all the giving and them doing all the receiving. But if you need something from the person with npd, then they suddenly lose interest in you and ignore you or actively reject you. The exception: if appearing kind and generous and nurturing toward you can earn the npd person big publicity points, as in public attention and praise, then they'll do it. My advice is to not just blindly take a big scary leap, but to carefully plan what you're going to do. Seek out help, advisors, counselors. Make appointments with social services, talk to your doctors, find out what's available in your area or nearby areas RE housing and assistance and medical help. The npds in your life aren't going to be much if any help, so you will have to help yourself and you'll feel really empowered when you do! Then you can thumb your nose at them and say, " Have a nice life, you creeps! " as you leave them behind you. -Annie > > > > ; > > > > Your boyfriend, your mother and his parents are abusive. You need to get out of there. Consider very seriously the choice to go to a woman's shelter and never go back to any of them. With your health issues, get on disability so you won't be dependant on anyone. These people are not good for you. Especially if you are ill and these people are denying it and ignoring you. Start formulating a plan to LEAVE. > > > > I'm sure there are others on this list who can give you more information. We have all " left, " or are in the process or are about to or seriously planning. Me included. It's not easy but it is time to just stop taking abuse. Part of the issue is realizing it is abuse. It's a process. But these people are bad news. This group will help you. We've all been there. Once they are out of your life, your health issues will be easier to deal with - without those " rocks " tied to your ankles. > > > > Flowers in Oz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: laiiku <lane.melissa@> > > >> > > >I am lost and dont know where to go or what to do anymore, the tiniest things are beginning to set me off (like my boyfriends mother taking our pork and doing it HER way... it just makes me think that the way I cooked it wasnt good enough, or something.... and when I mentioned it to my boyfriend he goes " It tastes better though! " ..... Its just htings my bpd mom would do... like making the lost signs and CL ad... you work hard to do it and its not good enough.... Its never good enough. I feel like no one cares about me here, and I feel like IM STUCK here because I have no where else to go.... Im pathetic. > > > > > >are these fleas? am I overreacting because of how I grew up with my bpd mom? Any thoughts? I just need some insight because I feel like everyone is against me and im going crazy or something. > > > > > >- > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > **This group is based on principles in Randi Kreger's new book The Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder: New Tips and Tools to Stop Walking on Eggshells, available at www.BPDCentral.com.** Problems? Write @ DO NOT RESPOND ON THE LIST. > > > > > >To unsub from this list, send a blank email to WTOAdultChildren1-unsubscribe > > > > > >Recommended: " Toxic Parents, " " Surviving a Borderline Parent, " and " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (hard to find) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 My friend has MS and has a part-time job and was able to get disability. Even with MS it took appeals and a bunch of other crap to get it. I think as long as your hours are under a certain amount you can qualify, but you might have to fight them a bit. Don't accept the first rejection. I think a woman's shelter would help you sort out how to get your medications and such. Please talk to them and tell them of your medical needs and they have resources to help you out. They might have advice about getting on disability too. I think it is common to leave one abusive situation and enter another. We are so used being treated that way, to thinking abuse is what love looks like, that we end up in similar situations time and again. I know it's scary to leave. But once you do, you'll find you can meet TRUE friends who will support you and love you. Just think about that, and how nice it would be to not be so stressed out and have all that drama. Your body can't heal properly with all that emotional baggage you are dealing with now. I know for myself, I really have to FORCE MYSELF to consider myself before others. I worry so much about whether I'm going to upset other people, that I forget my own needs, and my health suffers. With your chronic illnesses, this must be even worse! *hugs* I hope you get the strength to leave. You'll feel so much better if you do! Casey > > > > ; > > > > Your boyfriend, your mother and his parents are abusive. You need to get out of there. Consider very seriously the choice to go to a woman's shelter and never go back to any of them. With your health issues, get on disability so you won't be dependant on anyone. These people are not good for you. Especially if you are ill and these people are denying it and ignoring you. Start formulating a plan to LEAVE. > > > > I'm sure there are others on this list who can give you more information. We have all " left, " or are in the process or are about to or seriously planning. Me included. It's not easy but it is time to just stop taking abuse. Part of the issue is realizing it is abuse. It's a process. But these people are bad news. This group will help you. We've all been there. Once they are out of your life, your health issues will be easier to deal with - without those " rocks " tied to your ankles. > > > > Flowers in Oz > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: laiiku <lane.melissa@> > > >> > > >I am lost and dont know where to go or what to do anymore, the tiniest things are beginning to set me off (like my boyfriends mother taking our pork and doing it HER way... it just makes me think that the way I cooked it wasnt good enough, or something.... and when I mentioned it to my boyfriend he goes " It tastes better though! " ..... Its just htings my bpd mom would do... like making the lost signs and CL ad... you work hard to do it and its not good enough.... Its never good enough. I feel like no one cares about me here, and I feel like IM STUCK here because I have no where else to go.... Im pathetic. > > > > > >are these fleas? am I overreacting because of how I grew up with my bpd mom? Any thoughts? I just need some insight because I feel like everyone is against me and im going crazy or something. > > > > > >- > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > **This group is based on principles in Randi Kreger's new book The Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder: New Tips and Tools to Stop Walking on Eggshells, available at www.BPDCentral.com.** Problems? Write @ DO NOT RESPOND ON THE LIST. > > > > > >To unsub from this list, send a blank email to WTOAdultChildren1-unsubscribe > > > > > >Recommended: " Toxic Parents, " " Surviving a Borderline Parent, " and " Understanding the Borderline Mother " (hard to find) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Yeah, sad to say it's pretty much the norm, if you grew up in an abusive situation, to gravitate toward that same sort of thing for the rest of your life, unless you get counseling or become aware of it in some other way and learn how to change it. I'm glad you are going to try to get out of that place, because these people are surely doing you no good. I agree with everything that's been said here. Please write in and let us know how you are doing!! --. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 How are you doing today hon? I just wanted to check on you. If you need help researching saft places or anything let us know. . a lot of it I believe you have to do yourself to become empowered and strong, but we will support you every step. Hugs, Girlscout > > > Yeah, sad to say it's pretty much the norm, if you grew up in an abusive > situation, to gravitate toward that same sort of thing for the rest of your > life, unless you get counseling or become aware of it in some other way and > learn how to change it. > > I'm glad you are going to try to get out of that place, because these > people are surely doing you no good. I agree with everything that's been > said here. > > Please write in and let us know how you are doing!! > > --. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Thank you all so much! I couldnt have asked for more support! I am doing much better, I am carefully figuring out what I am going to do and I researched some womens shelters in my area (Im in Oregon) and found one very close by. I also filled out the application for disability and got help from an attorney who is " getting all evidence of my disability " so I am able to have support on applying for that. Its great because he doesnt charge anything unless you get back payment on disability and then he only takes 20% of what you get, with a maximum of $6,000. (Its better than fighting this battle alone! plus I have guidance to help me fill all this stuff out) I appreciate all of your help, I also looked into codependency and the nail was hit on the head with that. (Although I dont see myself as controlling, because Ive been controlled by everyone else my entire life and I *hate* controlling people.) But everything else was accurate. So I am going to go buy a book on that as well. I feel like you all understand me here, and its good to not feel so alone anymore. I feel like I am beginning to understand my situation and myself a lot more after talking on this board, and I could not be more thankful! I will keep you all updated on how everything goes! Thank you again. > > > > > > > Yeah, sad to say it's pretty much the norm, if you grew up in an abusive > > situation, to gravitate toward that same sort of thing for the rest of your > > life, unless you get counseling or become aware of it in some other way and > > learn how to change it. > > > > I'm glad you are going to try to get out of that place, because these > > people are surely doing you no good. I agree with everything that's been > > said here. > > > > Please write in and let us know how you are doing!! > > > > --. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Good job!!! You go girl!!! You are so worth it! > > > > Thank you all so much! I couldnt have asked for more support! > I am doing much better, I am carefully figuring out what I am going to do > and I researched some womens shelters in my area (Im in Oregon) and found > one very close by. I also filled out the application for disability and got > help from an attorney who is " getting all evidence of my disability " so I am > able to have support on applying for that. Its great because he doesnt > charge anything unless you get back payment on disability and then he only > takes 20% of what you get, with a maximum of $6,000. (Its better than > fighting this battle alone! plus I have guidance to help me fill all this > stuff out) > > I appreciate all of your help, I also looked into codependency and the nail > was hit on the head with that. (Although I dont see myself as controlling, > because Ive been controlled by everyone else my entire life and I *hate* > controlling people.) But everything else was accurate. So I am going to go > buy a book on that as well. > > I feel like you all understand me here, and its good to not feel so alone > anymore. I feel like I am beginning to understand my situation and myself a > lot more after talking on this board, and I could not be more thankful! > > I will keep you all updated on how everything goes! Thank you again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, sad to say it's pretty much the norm, if you grew up in an > abusive > > > situation, to gravitate toward that same sort of thing for the rest of > your > > > life, unless you get counseling or become aware of it in some other way > and > > > learn how to change it. > > > > > > I'm glad you are going to try to get out of that place, because these > > > people are surely doing you no good. I agree with everything that's > been > > > said here. > > > > > > Please write in and let us know how you are doing!! > > > > > > --. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Big virtual high five from me, and I bet you're feeling more empowered already! The emotional tone of your post even comes across as more upbeat and assertive. Awesome! -Annie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, sad to say it's pretty much the norm, if you grew up in an > > abusive > > > > situation, to gravitate toward that same sort of thing for the rest of > > your > > > > life, unless you get counseling or become aware of it in some other way > > and > > > > learn how to change it. > > > > > > > > I'm glad you are going to try to get out of that place, because these > > > > people are surely doing you no good. I agree with everything that's > > been > > > > said here. > > > > > > > > Please write in and let us know how you are doing!! > > > > > > > > --. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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