RE:So Frustrated! I'm in so much debt because of my eating

[Guest guest]

Hi Cort,

I am also seeking a different way to post to the group. This new format has

everyone in knots and it was so much easier before. If I get a hold of the

email address I'll send it to you!

I read your post and my heart goes out to you. It really does. I know what you

mean about being able to eat $50 of food in one sitting and how horrible it

makes you feel in every single way. But you are NOT an overweight disgusting

failure. You simply aren't. You certainly aren't a quitter and you aren't

completely hopeless- because you bothered to post how you felt and seek support.

You wouldn't have done that if you had no hope left. I think you should give

yourself a ton of credit for doing that regardless of how utterly horrible you

have been feeling. Not an easy thing to to.

I understand also about feeling out of control. The whole " control " thing is so

elusive and is more often than not, just a giant pain in the ass! " Am I trying

too hard to control? Is this considered controlling? If I don't have control,

how can I make IE work? If I do have control how can I make IE work? " The list

goes on and on....

But there has to be hope because so many people have done and are doing this and

more often than not, succeeding at it.I'm not one of them yet and have

considered just quitting several times- but something in me keeps trying- at

least to some degree. I still find myself binging every single evening, though.

How long have you been trying IE? When did you start and have you had any

positive experiences with it yet? And what are the aspects of it that challenge

you the most?

Forgive the length of this! And if those are too many questions for you, forgive

me! Your post really touched me and I feel your pain...

Jen

[Guest guest]

Hello Cort,

if you have the women, food & god book, there is a really good chapter about

using " food " (or alcohol, shopping, sex, internet, cocaine etc etc) to " numb "

ourselves, to shut ourselves down, to avoid facing the pain of any current life

crisis, old hurts, fears of future etc, etc, etc. On p 39 she writes, " There is

madness in obsession, yes, but it's value is that it drowns out the madness of

life. "

If you don't have the book yet, I highly recommend it. It was one of those "

life changing " books for me.

best regards

mj

[Guest guest]

Hi MJ and thanks! I have read W F and G and it's what moved me in June to change

the way I eat however somehow I lost myself...again...and again.

I think that I need to find the time to sit down and read it again because I

know it really helped to motivate me but also to understand myself better but

again somewhere I got lost and have forgotten everything I read.

Best,

Cort

>

> Hello Cort,

> if you have the women, food & god book, there is a really good chapter about

using " food " (or alcohol, shopping, sex, internet, cocaine etc etc) to " numb "

ourselves, to shut ourselves down, to avoid facing the pain of any current life

crisis, old hurts, fears of future etc, etc, etc. On p 39 she writes, " There is

madness in obsession, yes, but it's value is that it drowns out the madness of

life. "

>

> If you don't have the book yet, I highly recommend it. It was one of those "

life changing " books for me.

>

> best regards

> mj

>

[Guest guest]

Hugs Amy!

You're right. When I first started IE, I was so excited about understanding

myself better, realizing my true feeling instead of eating them but then my

clothes started getting too big for me and people were saying how good I looked

and that I was losing weight and that became my focus and insteading of binging

on food I started binging on shopping, and then IE went completely out the

window and I started binging on both food and shopping.

I saw my nutritionist on Tuesday and she wanted me to start slow and just commit

to eating every 2 to 2 1/2 hours, mini meals throughout the day. I honestly have

not done that yet. I have a million excuses why and there's no point in listing

them. I see her again on Tuesday and will continue to see her once a week till I

get my eating on track. I also see a therapist once a week where I can talk out

my feelings.

But most of all I need to journal, food journal, reread W F and G, and focus on

small changes...Also as you said I need to talk better to myself and believe I

deserve better.

So thank you for listening. I'm not on track yet but I'm in a better place.

Best,

Cort

>

>

>

> Hello Cort,

> if you have the women, food & god book, there is a really good chapter about

> using " food " (or alcohol, shopping, sex, internet, cocaine etc etc) to

> " numb " ourselves, to shut ourselves down, to avoid facing the pain of any

> current life crisis, old hurts, fears of future etc, etc, etc. On p 39 she

> writes, " There is madness in obsession, yes, but it's value is that it

> drowns out the madness of life. "

>

> If you don't have the book yet, I highly recommend it. It was one of those "

> life changing " books for me.

>

> best regards

> mj

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

My doctor lowered my medication this week, unfortunately at the lower dose I am

not sleeping. The medication is for depression and anxiety but is also taken at

night to sleep. I will give it a bit more time at the lower dose and see if my

body can transition.

How is it going with your medication?

Best,

Cort

>

> @, Cort,

>

> I feel for you so much. I do hope your appt with your nutritionist goes well

tonight and that she can offer you some good advice. And you shouldn't feel

badly at all about even calling her for the appt with what she is going through-

it's most likely that she's relieved to have you come because it will distract

her from her situation.

>

> I am also on quite a few meds and I am concerned about the weight gain side

effects. I know I need to add more meds to my " cocktail " and most of the options

I have are those that cause weight gain. Is the med that you started on the

only one you can take? Can your doctor switch you to a different one that works

as well?

>

> Hugs,

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine recently recommended melatonin to me to help with not sleeping, as I was sometimes using Benadryl for this. and the melatonin totally knocked me out! i couldn't believe how well this " natural " remedy worked!

maybe you've already tried both of these, but if not, it could be worth a shot.

 

Hi Jen,

My doctor lowered my medication this week, unfortunately at the lower dose I am not sleeping. The medication is for depression and anxiety but is also taken at night to sleep. I will give it a bit more time at the lower dose and see if my body can transition.

How is it going with your medication?

Best,

Cort

>

> @, Cort,

>

> I feel for you so much. I do hope your appt with your nutritionist goes well tonight and that she can offer you some good advice. And you shouldn't feel badly at all about even calling her for the appt with what she is going through- it's most likely that she's relieved to have you come because it will distract her from her situation.

>

> I am also on quite a few meds and I am concerned about the weight gain side effects. I know I need to add more meds to my " cocktail " and most of the options I have are those that cause weight gain. Is the med that you started on the only one you can take? Can your doctor switch you to a different one that works as well?

>

> Hugs,

> Jen

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cort,If it makes you feel any better, I have been doing IE nearly 2 years now, and still fall into this trap, of starting out focusing on IE, getting sidetracked by weight loss, and then sabotaging myself. In fact, I have been struggling with this again this very month! 

It's really hard not to get excited about weight loss when our society values this so highly. This summer I made HUGE progress about truly accepting and LOVING my body at any size, and really am fine with how i look right now... and even with that, i STILL get excited when i lose weight! 

challenging work!best,abbyps and YAY! i am SOOOO glad to hear that you are in a better place! 

 

Hugs Amy!

You're right. When I first started IE, I was so excited about understanding myself better, realizing my true feeling instead of eating them but then my clothes started getting too big for me and people were saying how good I looked and that I was losing weight and that became my focus and insteading of binging on food I started binging on shopping, and then IE went completely out the window and I started binging on both food and shopping.

I saw my nutritionist on Tuesday and she wanted me to start slow and just commit to eating every 2 to 2 1/2 hours, mini meals throughout the day. I honestly have not done that yet. I have a million excuses why and there's no point in listing them. I see her again on Tuesday and will continue to see her once a week till I get my eating on track. I also see a therapist once a week where I can talk out my feelings.

But most of all I need to journal, food journal, reread W F and G, and focus on small changes...Also as you said I need to talk better to myself and believe I deserve better.

So thank you for listening. I'm not on track yet but I'm in a better place.

Best,

Cort

[Guest guest]

Hello cort,

yes, I find that IE works for me as long as I keep bringing myself back to it.

It's so easy to get caught up in the, " you've lost so much weight, you look

great...... " comments that I get. I have lost 35 lbs & am on maintenance so I

can understand why people do it. Now I just have to try to figure out how to

react to that without sabotaging myself.

I try to keep my focus on IE as much as i am able to. I read the books,

highlight & discuss, I keep coming to my yahoo groups to read & post & share my

experiences (successes & failures). I've been going to a weekly book club

meeting that focuses on w.f & g but is also a social thing. And, I got a buddy

who started me doing the chapter questions that are posted on the Oprah site. I

think answering THOSE questions has helped me more than anything. i've learned

so much more about the book & about myself.

If I don't keep doing these things i forget to eat intuitively & i forget to

appreciate my life NOW. I have to constantly be reminded that there is more to

life if I live it in the present moment. can I just try to remind myself to do

THAT?

blessings

mj

> >

> > Hello Cort,

> > if you have the women, food & god book, there is a really good chapter about

using " food " (or alcohol, shopping, sex, internet, cocaine etc etc) to " numb "

ourselves, to shut ourselves down, to avoid facing the pain of any current life

crisis, old hurts, fears of future etc, etc, etc. On p 39 she writes, " There is

madness in obsession, yes, but it's value is that it drowns out the madness of

life. "

> >

> > If you don't have the book yet, I highly recommend it. It was one of those

" life changing " books for me.

> >

> > best regards

> > mj

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cort,

I suppose it's too early to tell if the lowered dosage has resulted in less

hunger, but it might. And your body might very well adjust to the lower dose in

terms of sleep.

My doc just started me on a new medication to help me sleep- it's also intended

for depression, anxiety, etc but one of it's side effects is severe drowsiness.

My current meds don't have weight gain side effects as of now, but they aren't

really working either and I have little doubt that I'll be starting one that

does cause weight gain. It's such a complex thing and very frustrating.

I hope this new dose helps you in every way. Please keep me updated:)

Jen

> >

> > @, Cort,

> >

> > I feel for you so much. I do hope your appt with your nutritionist goes well

tonight and that she can offer you some good advice. And you shouldn't feel

badly at all about even calling her for the appt with what she is going through-

it's most likely that she's relieved to have you come because it will distract

her from her situation.

> >

> > I am also on quite a few meds and I am concerned about the weight gain side

effects. I know I need to add more meds to my " cocktail " and most of the options

I have are those that cause weight gain. Is the med that you started on the

only one you can take? Can your doctor switch you to a different one that works

as well?

> >

> > Hugs,

> > Jen

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cort,There is a blog doing a bookclub of W F and G that I've been following. It is most helpful for just 1) getting me to re-read the book and 2) letting me know there are others out there going through the same things:http://www.honormyhealth.com/2010/09/13/chapter-five-women-food-and-god-beyond-whats-broken/She does a new chapter each Monday, you could jump in this Monday for chapter 6 and read the summaries of the other chapters whenever you have time, or not.LucyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, September 18, 2010 5:42:06 AMSubject: Re: RE:So Frustrated! I'm in so much debt because of my eating

Hi MJ and thanks! I have read W F and G and it's what moved me in June to change the way I eat however somehow I lost myself...again...and again.

I think that I need to find the time to sit down and read it again because I know it really helped to motivate me but also to understand myself better but again somewhere I got lost and have forgotten everything I read.

Best,

Cort