Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Sohni,I can see why you might hoard... your boys can scarf down your special food without even realizing it, and without leaving any for you! that would make me anxious, too. can you buy such a large amount of at least some of these foods that you know the boys won't eat it all? you know, like a dozen bags of chips? it may lose it's excitement for them, too, if there's tons of it around....not that they wont eat if they are hungry, but they'd probably also eat other things in that situation. maybe you can stockpile some other snacks that they like that you don't. the point is for EVERYONE to legalize food. even if they are thin, ravenous, oblivious teenage boys... in their case, just to make make un-special your special foods.i also think it would be ok to have a spot that's just for you... but maybe you can make it not a secret? at least tell one other person about it... maybe your husband? i hope some of this might help.best,abby Ever since childhood I've been a hoarder/sneaker/possessive nut about my binge food. I know that this attitude isn't healthy, because it's labeling food as some kind of treasure, but it's something that I have a really hard time dealing with. So one of my current goals is to be willing to share food--mostly with my teenage boys, who of course are like locusts with food--and not become anxious over it. Sometimes it's working, sometimes not. I'm trying to get it in my head that if I run out, I can always get more. Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues with being secretive with food. Just wanted to add that despite all my food problems, somehow I managed not to pass that on to my kids and they are pretty normal eaters--for teenagers, that is. ; ) I'm thankful for that! Sohni -- Abigail C. Wolfson, RN, MS, CPNPLICH School Based Health CenterBrooklyn New School & Brooklyn School for Collaborative Studies610 Henry Street, Room 209 Brooklyn, NY 11231 (fax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks, Sohni, for bringing this subject up; I admire your courage for doing so! I've always been too embarrassed to admit it, but when I binge, I also horde and hide. Then eat the stash in secret. Have to admit I'm embarrassed right now to write this confession. The deceit makes me feel so contemptible, but it would make me feel even worse if people found out or I was caught. Thank God, I haven't done this in several months. But you know, I sometimes wonder if I'll ever really be able to eat baked goods like a normal person. You know, one is too many and 100 isn't enough!! Yesterday I finally purged my soul and told my husband about this problem. I promised that next time when I got the urge I'd tell him how I was feeling and eat in front of him rather than stuffing my face in secret. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 It's really not the kids, though--this has gone on since I was a small child. If I buy something for me, they know not to eat it (like my Breyer's mint chip ice cream--no one touches that but me, ha!), and most of what they'd eat I don't want anyway. It's more of a mental issue with me. For instance, if I'm having something like chocolate-covered raisins, and I have way more than I am going to want to eat, if they ask if they can have some my first instinct is to yell "No!" So I'm working on instead saying, "Sure, go get a dish and I'll give you some" and not worrying about it. I can buy more tomorrow, buy something else good, etc. The kids don't eat a lot of junk food, but naturally if they see me eating it, they want some. I do most of the things you suggested--I have my own space, they have their own snacks, etc. It's hard to explain, but it's not the food so much as the act of sharing that's the thing. It wouldn't matter if I had an endless supply of food. I think it all ties in to when I was a kid and had to eat so many things I didn't like and never enough of foods I did like. Sohni Abigail Wolfson wrote: Sohni, I can see why you might hoard... your boys can scarf down your special food without even realizing it, and without leaving any for you! that would make me anxious, too. can you buy such a large amount of at least some of these foods that you know the boys won't eat it all? you know, like a dozen bags of chips? it may lose it's excitement for them, too, if there's tons of it around....not that they wont eat if they are hungry, but they'd probably also eat other things in that situation. maybe you can stockpile some other snacks that they like that you don't. the point is for EVERYONE to legalize food. even if they are thin, ravenous, oblivious teenage boys... in their case, just to make make un-special your special foods. i also think it would be ok to have a spot that's just for you... but maybe you can make it not a secret? at least tell one other person about it... maybe your husband? i hope some of this might help. best, abby On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:11 PM, jeanniet58 <jeanniet58gmail> wrote: Ever since childhood I've been a hoarder/sneaker/possessive nut about my binge food. I know that this attitude isn't healthy, because it's labeling food as some kind of treasure, but it's something that I have a really hard time dealing with. So one of my current goals is to be willing to share food--mostly with my teenage boys, who of course are like locusts with food--and not become anxious over it. Sometimes it's working, sometimes not. I'm trying to get it in my head that if I run out, I can always get more. Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues with being secretive with food. Just wanted to add that despite all my food problems, somehow I managed not to pass that on to my kids and they are pretty normal eaters--for teenagers, that is. ; ) I'm thankful for that! Sohni -- Abigail C. Wolfson, RN, MS, CPNP LICH School Based Health Center Brooklyn New School & Brooklyn School for Collaborative Studies 610 Henry Street, Room 209 Brooklyn, NY 11231 (fax) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 It's very, very habitual with me, so I really have to make a conscious effort not to do it. The hoarding and hiding is mostly with binges, but even with just regular food I have the trouble with sharing. I think being able to share more will help me get into the mindset of knowing that there's always enough food and that one kind of food isn't more special than another. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Thanks, Sohni, for bringing this subject up; I admire your courage for doing so! I've always been too embarrassed to admit it, but when I binge, I also horde and hide. Then eat the stash in secret. Have to admit I'm embarrassed right now to write this confession. The deceit makes me feel so contemptible, but it would make me feel even worse if people found out or I was caught. Thank God, I haven't done this in several months. But you know, I sometimes wonder if I'll ever really be able to eat baked goods like a normal person. You know, one is too many and 100 isn't enough!! Yesterday I finally purged my soul and told my husband about this problem. I promised that next time when I got the urge I'd tell him how I was feeling and eat in front of him rather than stuffing my face in secret. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 It's very, very habitual with me, so I really have to make a conscious effort not to do it. The hoarding and hiding is mostly with binges, but even with just regular food I have the trouble with sharing. I think being able to share more will help me get into the mindset of knowing that there's always enough food and that one kind of food isn't more special than another. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Thanks, Sohni, for bringing this subject up; I admire your courage for doing so! I've always been too embarrassed to admit it, but when I binge, I also horde and hide. Then eat the stash in secret. Have to admit I'm embarrassed right now to write this confession. The deceit makes me feel so contemptible, but it would make me feel even worse if people found out or I was caught. Thank God, I haven't done this in several months. But you know, I sometimes wonder if I'll ever really be able to eat baked goods like a normal person. You know, one is too many and 100 isn't enough!! Yesterday I finally purged my soul and told my husband about this problem. I promised that next time when I got the urge I'd tell him how I was feeling and eat in front of him rather than stuffing my face in secret. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Sohni, good for you! Doesn't it give you such freedom when you make peace with food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I really relate to this. A part of my recovery has been sharing food often. I've forced myself to offer some of my food to others to prove to myself that (1) I CAN share and it'll be okay, and that (2) I'm not a selfish/greedy person. More recently in recovery, I don't think bad of myself if I forget to offer some of my food, or if I consciously choose mot to - it doesn't hold some negative meaning over me anymore. And, that, is progress. -- > > Ever since childhood I've been a hoarder/sneaker/possessive nut about my > binge food. I know that this attitude isn't healthy, because it's > labeling food as some kind of treasure, but it's something that I have a > really hard time dealing with. So one of my current goals is to be > willing to share food--mostly with my teenage boys, who of course are > like locusts with food--and not become anxious over it. Sometimes it's > working, sometimes not. I'm trying to get it in my head that if I run > out, I can always get more. Just wondering if anyone else has the same > issues with being secretive with food. > > Just wanted to add that despite all my food problems, somehow I managed > not to pass that on to my kids and they are pretty normal eaters--for > teenagers, that is. ; ) I'm thankful for that! > > Sohni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Ha, I wouldn't say I've quite made peace with food yet. Let's say we're having a tentative cease fire. ; ) Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Sohni, good for you! Doesn't it give you such freedom when you make peace with food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sohni, I'm 59 years old. And after a 40 plus year fight with this eating/weight stuff, all I can say is this old woman has had enough!!! Have a good Valentine's Day! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's nice to know that there are other women around my age that are going through this struggle, it really is. I have visions of being a 70 year old woman binging in secret on candy. Ugh. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Sohni, I'm 59 years old. And after a 40 plus year fight with this eating/weight stuff, all I can say is this old woman has had enough!!! Have a good Valentine's Day! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Last year shortly before I joined the support group and with the big 59 approaching, it hit me that I was REALLY tired of dealing with this junk and don't want to drag this ball and chain with me into the next new decade of my life. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I think you're right about how long it may take for IE to feel natural. Right now I still feel pretty tentative about it. Sometimes I decide against something and I don't know if I'm not choosing it because I know it will make me feel bad or if in the back of my mind the voice says "bad food." Seems like there's a fine line sometimes. The good news is that I haven't felt really bingy for about a week. Feel like eating when I'm not hungry, yes, but not bingy. I'm trying to remind myself that it's OK to see something and think, "Hey, that looks really good" and know the world won't fall apart if I have some even if I'm not hungry. Sohni sue wrote: Hi Sohni: I just turned 63 this month. Although I don't have excess weight problems, I struggled with disordered eating habits for over 35 years before I finally committed to intuitive eating. Then I went through all the symptoms and diagnoses for celiac and food allergies. Those medical restrictions initially made me feel more deprived, until I discovered allergy free versions of my favorite foods. However, I still regularly binged (average once a month) until a year ago, when I realized that I still unnecessarily restricted a few foods that I considered 'unhealthy', even though I wasn't allergic to them. Now I eat anything which is not a diagnosed allergen. I still eat a fairly 'healthy' diet, because I like lots of different foods (fruits, vegies, grains, nuts, legumes, meats, fish, poultry, vegan entrees AND, of course, allergy free sweets). However, I no longer restrict sweets and substitute 'healthier' foods, if I want sweets. (I made allergy fudge and frosted valentine cookies to celebrate valentine's day.) If I notice that I'm overeating or even wanting to binge, I almost always have unnecessarily (usually unintentionally) restricted a food I like. I suspect that the longer we have practiced 'disordered' eating habits, the longer we may need to practice intuitive eating habits before those feel natural and normal for us. SUE > > > > > > Sohni, I'm 59 years old. And after a 40 plus year fight with this > > eating/weight stuff, all I can say is this old woman has had enough!!! > > > > Have a good Valentine's Day! > > > > Jeanne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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