Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

January 11, 2011

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was

on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off

the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this

happens with him.

Dianne

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of

things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she

is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic

twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm

just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing

nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They

were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had

been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs

degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

I would pose this question to the BVCD group and Pecanbread group as that sounds like maybe they have a bacterial problem then? GrayTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 12:57:55 PMSubject: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this happens with him.

Dianne

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

My 2 boys used to go to a GI known for treating autistic kids with gut issues and he told me some of his kids needed to stay on Flagyllongterm to keep having firm poops. Just something to keep in mind. Maybe go to a GI. hth.Rhonda Masengale

My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet.

Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

January 11, 2011

Hi Alberta! It's good to see you around : )

hm...ok, if we stop to think about this, we can assume that the antibiotics she is taking for her ear infections are also killing some sort of bacteria in her stomach, (both good and bad). Are you using a probiotic when she's done with the anti? I know you have to be so careful with what you feed her so I can't remember if that's part of your dietary strategy for her. But it might be a good place to start. I remember you were starting to make connections with the way she processed proteins and I can't help but wonder how the two might be related. ??? Keep on keepin' on, mama. Eventually, you've gotta come across the answer.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:53:55 AMSubject: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

January 11, 2011

we are there 3 months going strong with my youngest, she has clostrida in her gut that won't die!!!!!

From: Rhonda Masengale

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:20 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

My 2 boys used to go to a GI known for treating autistic kids with gut issues and he told me some of his kids needed to stay on Flagyllongterm to keep having firm poops. Just something to keep in mind. Maybe go to a GI. hth.Rhonda Masengale

My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

January 11, 2011

you can do a comp stool but you are likely to find out what you already have figured out, she has bacteria in her gut wrecking everything and making it a mess, likely clostrida or strep

From: Rhonda Masengale

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:20 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

My 2 boys used to go to a GI known for treating autistic kids with gut issues and he told me some of his kids needed to stay on Flagyllongterm to keep having firm poops. Just something to keep in mind. Maybe go to a GI. hth.Rhonda Masengale

My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

January 11, 2011

This is actually fairly common and indicates that your child probably has

colonized bacteria in the gut that are knocked out temporarily by the

antibiotics. The stool issues usually come back as soon as the

antibiotics are completed, because the basic cause(s) of the pathogen overgrowth

have not been adequately addressed.

She should be on a probiotic while taking the antibiotic, just be sure to take

them 3 hours apart so the antibiotic does not kill off the antibiotic.

I think that you need to consider starting to treat the bacteria issues.

Culturelle seems to work well for bacteria and you may want to consider

Grapefruit seed extract as well.

Dr. Suzanne Fleeson-DaSilva

www.fcchiropacticcenter.com

>

> Hi Alberta!Â It's good to see you aroundÂ : )

>

> hm...ok, if we stop to think about this, we canÂ assume that the antibiotics

she

> is taking for her ear infections are also killing some sort of bacteria in her

> stomach, (both good and bad).Â Are you using a probiotic when she's done with

> the anti?Â I know you have to be so careful with what you feed her so I can't

> remember if that's part ofÂ your dietaryÂ strategy for her.Â But it might be

a

> good place to start.Â I remember you were starting to make connections with

the

> way she processed proteins and I can't help but wonder how the two might be

> related.Â Â ???Â Â Keep on keepin' on, mama.Â Eventually, you've gotta come

across

> the answer.

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:53:55 AM

> Subject: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

>

> Â

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of

> things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she

> is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an

antibiotic

> twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm

just

> getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing

> nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They

> were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had

> been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs

degraded

> back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

Does that mean there is bad bacteria in the gut?

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this happens with him.

Dianne

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

Sorry, I posted before I read all the other posts.Hi again, Tammy -- I've been wondering where you were...how's the Buick? Heh heh! Rhonda, how long term is long term for the Flagyl? I could probably bring this up with our DAN and he could write us a script for Flagyl.

The strange thing with probiotics is that she reacts badly to probiotics. We were on Genestra's HMF Neuro Powder and that didn't do much and I've had times where diarrhea stopped when I took out the probiotics. Culturelle gave her really really nasty stomach aches. We were out on the first day she had started Culturelle and she buckled down on the ground holding her stomach and then had the diarrhea of her life. I wasn't sure if that was a good or bad thing at the time...

Does that mean there is bad bacteria in the gut?

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this happens with him.

Dianne

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

Ditto.Uva Ursi 2 weeks on/2 weeks off works in my house. Make sure you rotate with the on/off schedule because long term use is toxic. As long as you rotate you can use it as long as necessary. But given how long you've had loose stools, I have to wonder if you don't need something stronger. I also have to wonder if you might need something a little more long term. My son was on erythromycin for one year (but not for gut issues) and it did absolute wonders.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@midian42~

yup

From: Alberta

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

Does that mean there is bad bacteria in the gut?

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this happens with him.Dianne

>> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).> > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.> > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?>

January 11, 2011

Ditto.Uva Ursi 2 weeks on/2 weeks off works in my house. Make sure you rotate with the on/off schedule because long term use is toxic. As long as you rotate you can use it as long as necessary. But given how long you've had loose stools, I have to wonder if you don't need something stronger. I also have to wonder if you might need something a little more long term. My son was on erythromycin for one year (but not for gut issues) and it did absolute wonders.

Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@midian42~

yup

From: Alberta

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

Does that mean there is bad bacteria in the gut?

The same thing happens with my son who is 16. He had a skin infection and was on antibiotics for a month. The whole time he had firm stools... a few days off the antibiotics and back to mushy stools. Any time he is on antibiotics this happens with him.Dianne

>> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).> > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.> > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?>

January 11, 2011

Many kids live on antibiotics. My son has been on various antibiotics for 3

years. I would start with the one that helped your child. Ask you DAN to write

a long term prescription and pursue testing of various bacterial infections.

Caryn

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of

things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she

is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic

twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm

just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing

nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They

were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had

been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs

degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

Would long term use destroy the immune system?

Many kids live on antibiotics. My son has been on various antibiotics for 3 years. I would start with the one that helped your child. Ask you DAN to write a long term prescription and pursue testing of various bacterial infections.

Caryn

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet.

>

> Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

>

> She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her.

>

> Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.

>

> Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

>

January 11, 2011

my son has been on it for a year as well, for PANDAS and lyme and we see a difference as well on stools, doing biofilm as well hoping it helps

From: Alberta

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:50 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Firmed stools when on antibiotics for an ear infection

Would long term use destroy the immune system?

Many kids live on antibiotics. My son has been on various antibiotics for 3 years. I would start with the one that helped your child. Ask you DAN to write a long term prescription and pursue testing of various bacterial infections.Caryn

>

> My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot of things with her with diet. > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).> > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with her. > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested even with enzymes.> > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?>

January 11, 2011

Do you mean that your kids have been on a probiotic? I would not suggest using

antibiotics for clearing up something like unformed stools. There is a reason

that your child is not having formed stool and I would suggest getting to the

actual cause, not covering the problem with using an antibiotic.

Long-term use of antibiotics will only set yourself up for yeast and bacteria,

which can eventually lead to leaky gut. Unformed stool will seem like nothing

when you end up having severe gut issues.

I would suggest treating yeast with something like grapefruit seed, bacteria

with something like goldenseal, and a good probiotic. Antibiotics are never a

good idea for gut kids. Also, be sure that your ear infection is bacterial

before opting for antibiotics. Most ear infections are viral and do not respond

to antibiotics anyway. Garlic oil in the ear would be more effective and won't

disrupt the gut.

Dr. Suzanne Fleeson-DaSilva

www.fcchiropracticcenter.com

> > >

> > > My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot

> > of things with her with diet.

> > >

> > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested

> > when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on

> > an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

> > >

> > > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with

> > her.

> > >

> > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but

> > I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics

> > are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no

> > avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just

> > after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after

> > that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested

> > even with enzymes.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

> > >

> >

>

January 11, 2011

Do you mean that your kids have been on a probiotic? I would not suggest using

antibiotics for clearing up something like unformed stools. There is a reason

that your child is not having formed stool and I would suggest getting to the

actual cause, not covering the problem with using an antibiotic.

Long-term use of antibiotics will only set yourself up for yeast and bacteria,

which can eventually lead to leaky gut. Unformed stool will seem like nothing

when you end up having severe gut issues.

I would suggest treating yeast with something like grapefruit seed, bacteria

with something like goldenseal, and a good probiotic. Antibiotics are never a

good idea for gut kids. Also, be sure that your ear infection is bacterial

before opting for antibiotics. Most ear infections are viral and do not respond

to antibiotics anyway. Garlic oil in the ear would be more effective and won't

disrupt the gut.

Dr. Suzanne Fleeson-DaSilva

www.fcchiropracticcenter.com

> > >

> > > My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot

> > of things with her with diet.

> > >

> > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested

> > when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on

> > an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

> > >

> > > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with

> > her.

> > >

> > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but

> > I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics

> > are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no

> > avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just

> > after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after

> > that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested

> > even with enzymes.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

> > >

> >

>

January 11, 2011

Do you mean that your kids have been on a probiotic? I would not suggest using

antibiotics for clearing up something like unformed stools. There is a reason

that your child is not having formed stool and I would suggest getting to the

actual cause, not covering the problem with using an antibiotic.

Long-term use of antibiotics will only set yourself up for yeast and bacteria,

which can eventually lead to leaky gut. Unformed stool will seem like nothing

when you end up having severe gut issues.

I would suggest treating yeast with something like grapefruit seed, bacteria

with something like goldenseal, and a good probiotic. Antibiotics are never a

good idea for gut kids. Also, be sure that your ear infection is bacterial

before opting for antibiotics. Most ear infections are viral and do not respond

to antibiotics anyway. Garlic oil in the ear would be more effective and won't

disrupt the gut.

Dr. Suzanne Fleeson-DaSilva

www.fcchiropracticcenter.com

> > >

> > > My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot

> > of things with her with diet.

> > >

> > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested

> > when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on

> > an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

> > >

> > > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with

> > her.

> > >

> > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but

> > I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics

> > are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no

> > avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just

> > after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after

> > that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested

> > even with enzymes.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

> > >

> >

>

January 11, 2011

It is reasonable to believe that the weak immune system comes from the untreated

infections. Therefore, if you treat all the infections, the immune system is

good. I know several kids that recovered from autism on an antibiotic ONLY

protocol -- nothing else.

It is not a good idea to simply leave a bacterial infection out of fear of

antibiotics.

Caryn

> > >

> > > My 3.5 year old daughter has chronic loose stools. I've been trying a lot

> > of things with her with diet.

> > >

> > > Her stools go from mushy or liquidy to well-formed and fully digested

> > when she is on antibiotics to treat an ear infection (last year, she was on

> > an antibiotic twice for an ear infection).

> > >

> > > She is autistic and non-verbal and cannot tell me what's going on with

> > her.

> > >

> > > Right now, I'm trying everything I can to firm up the stools again but

> > I'm just getting mushy, poorly formed stools. SCD and GFCF and probiotics

> > are doing nothing for the stools. We've also been trying enzymes, but to no

> > avail. They were firm again in late November for a while, but that was just

> > after she had been on the antibiotics for an ear infection. Weeks after

> > that, her BMs degraded back to the usual mush, sometimes not fully digested

> > even with enzymes.

> > >

> > > Has anyone else seen this in their child? How should we approach this?

> > >

> >

>

January 11, 2011

I support this view. When this happened to my children, I then realized

that at my house, bad bacteria was the main cause of our symptoms. We

have chronic Strep and Bartonella. Cod liver oil, turmeric, Mindlinx,

and digestive enzymes, all given together, firmed their stools. But

also Zithromax did as well. That was 4 years ago. Since then I have

learned that Zithromax is the number one antibiotic given to children

with autism, and is also given long-term at times. I recently read that

Penicillan may also be of benefit. Some antibiotics may kill too much

microflora, such as amoxicillan. I chose the herbal and homeopathic

route, long-term, but have used Zithromax short-term. There are

variances per child, but definitely pursue antibacterials with your

practitioner to be part of your recovery protocol. With children with

autism, their immune dysfunction seems to make the antibacterials not

work completely, and this is why long-term treatments are usually

needed. It is thought that viruses and several pathogens and toxins are

in them, causing the immune dysfunction.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Many kids live on antibiotics. My son has been on various antibiotics

for 3 years. I would start with the one that helped your child. Ask you

DAN to write a long term prescription and pursue testing of various

bacterial infections.

Caryn

January 11, 2011