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Hi Norma,

yes, I have the same problem. And it is worst of all when I eat during a really

engaging movie or tv show. I was watching myself do it today, it was gross. I

know that if there had been someone else in the room i wouldn't have done it at

all. hmmmmmmmm.

Well, maybe next time I will be able to stop but not today.

mj

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> Hi Everyone!

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> Thanks for the welcome.

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> At the moment, I'm trying to learn to eat mindfully--I figure I do that about

10% of the time, which explains why I'm so disappointed when I discover my plate

is empty. For some reason, I get distracted and forget to think about the food

in my mouth, and the next thing I know, the meal is over but I feel like I

really haven't tasted it. Does anyone else have that problem?

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> Thanks!

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> Norma,

> blogging at http://givingupdieting.wordpress.com/

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Hi Norma!

I do know that feeling, quite well!

I am currently reading and following the ideas presented in Eating the Moment by Pavel (sorry can’t remember the last name). Last night I learned that one cannot be in the moment 100% of the time, that we do many things in our eating times that is on autopilot and that is okay. For instance, we can eat with a utensil and not really have to pay attention to navigating it from the plate to the mouth, as we are quite practiced in that. So with other aspects of eating, some of it can be “mindlessâ€. The part that needs attention is tasting. It helps to recognize that not all meals have to be a taste fest at every bite.

The author talks about different ways to develop mindfulness by choosing the techniques that work. One that was suggested to help put some perspective in eating without disrupting it at every bite, is to eat half the meal and pause for 5 minutes. This doesn’t have to be timed, just that at the halfway point to stop, look at the food and think about what tasted best, what was so so, or even just realize that perhaps we didn’t pay attention to that at all. The second half of the meal could be the time to check out the best flavour on the plate. Another technique which I personally love, is to make a “mmmmmm†noise when I discover the best tasting bite of all in my meal. it’s crazy, but it really works, I look forward to finding that perfect bite. I never use to allow myself to like food, I felt it would only keep me wanting it. It’s amazing that it took me well over 40 years to allow myself to enjoy food in public or make a mmmmm sound because before, I didn’t want anyone to know I was that into food...not while obese!

There was a film years ago called The Mirror has Two Faces (I think that’s it) with Jeff Bridges and Barbara Streisand. There is a scene where Barbara fusses with her food until she finds the perfect bite, the perfect combination of food on her fork. I admired that scene, because she made a point of doing something I was literally afraid to do.

There are quite a few books out now about mindful eating and IE. When I first discovered it, there were only 2! Some of them are harder for me to follow, some have ideas that make me feel I have discovered something truly wonderful about myself. For me, it feels like waking up from a long sleep. While I cannot practice mindful eating like I am attempting to reach nirvana, I can take small little moments of enjoying the food without making a huge deal out of every bite.

From: Norma Nill

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:07 PM

To: intuitiveeating_support

Subject: Welcome!

Hi Everyone! Thanks for the welcome. At the moment, I'm trying to learn to eat mindfully--I figure I do that about 10% of the time, which explains why I'm so disappointed when I discover my plate is empty. For some reason, I get distracted and forget to think about the food in my mouth, and the next thing I know, the meal is over but I feel like I really haven't tasted it. Does anyone else have that problem? Thanks! Norma, blogging at http://givingupdieting.wordpress.com/

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- Thanks for reminding me about that book. I had it in my bookshelf. When I read your post, I looked it up on Amazon, saw the picture and said to myself, "Wait a minute, I have that book" LOLI'll have to check it out. Another great book, that I'm working my way through now, is A Course in Weight Loss by nne . While it's geared towards weight loss, its focus is on mindful eating practices.

Hi Norma!

I do know that feeling, quite well!

I am currently reading and following the ideas presented in Eating the Moment by Pavel (sorry can’t remember the last name). Last night I learned that one cannot be in the moment 100% of the time, that we do many things in our eating times that is on autopilot and that is okay. For instance, we can eat with a utensil and not really have to pay attention to navigating it from the plate to the mouth, as we are quite practiced in that. So with other aspects of eating, some of it can be “mindless”. The part that needs attention is tasting. It helps to recognize that not all meals have to be a taste fest at every bite.

The author talks about different ways to develop mindfulness by choosing the techniques that work. One that was suggested to help put some perspective in eating without disrupting it at every bite, is to eat half the meal and pause for 5 minutes. This doesn’t have to be timed, just that at the halfway point to stop, look at the food and think about what tasted best, what was so so, or even just realize that perhaps we didn’t pay attention to that at all. The second half of the meal could be the time to check out the best flavour on the plate. Another technique which I personally love, is to make a “mmmmmm” noise when I discover the best tasting bite of all in my meal. it’s crazy, but it really works, I look forward to finding that perfect bite. I never use to allow myself to like food, I felt it would only keep me wanting it. It’s amazing that it took me well over 40 years to allow myself to enjoy food in public or make a mmmmm sound because before, I didn’t want anyone to know I was that into food...not while obese!

There was a film years ago called The Mirror has Two Faces (I think that’s it) with Jeff Bridges and Barbara Streisand. There is a scene where Barbara fusses with her food until she finds the perfect bite, the perfect combination of food on her fork. I admired that scene, because she made a point of doing something I was literally afraid to do.

There are quite a few books out now about mindful eating and IE. When I first discovered it, there were only 2! Some of them are harder for me to follow, some have ideas that make me feel I have discovered something truly wonderful about myself. For me, it feels like waking up from a long sleep. While I cannot practice mindful eating like I am attempting to reach nirvana, I can take small little moments of enjoying the food without making a huge deal out of every bite.

From: Norma Nill

Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:07 PM

To: intuitiveeating_support

Subject: Welcome!

Hi Everyone! Thanks for the welcome. At the moment, I'm trying to learn to eat mindfully--I figure I do that about 10% of the time, which explains why I'm so disappointed when I discover my plate is empty. For some reason, I get distracted and forget to think about the food in my mouth, and the next thing I know, the meal is over but I feel like I really haven't tasted it. Does anyone else have that problem? Thanks! Norma, blogging at http://givingupdieting.wordpress.com/

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Hi !

I just started the Course in Weight Loss today...doing the 21 day

Yoga Journal Yoga Challenge PLUS the 21 day Course in Weight Loss.

At the end of the 3 weeks I'll be in tip-top emotional shape! ;)

Nice to know others are enjoying this. The first lesson was

powerful...and I journalled up a storm. I too wish she didn't say

weight loss or talk about some binge foods like " sugar " and

" bread " ...but otherwise love it.

Cheers,

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> Thanks for reminding me about that book. I had it in my

> bookshelf. When I read your post, I looked it up on Amazon, saw

> the picture and said to myself, " Wait a minute, I have that book " LOL

>

> I'll have to check it out. Another great book, that I'm working my

> way through now, is A Course in Weight Loss by nne .

> While it's geared towards weight loss, its focus is on mindful

> eating practices.

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Hi MJ - This is from the first page of the book."Your first lesson focuses on the following visualization: the image of excess weight as a brick wall you are carrying around. This wall has been built by your subconscious mind; its purpose is to separate you from other people and from life itself. Your fear has built the wall, and love will tear it down."Hope this helps.

Hi,

I borrowed this book from the library & maybe I just wasn't ready for it or my head was not in the right place to do it. Now that I hear you discussing it, I'm thinking I should give it another try because it sounds really good. I'll be seeing both Geneen & nne at the I can do it conference in March. I'm really looking forward to that'.

Can you just explain briefly what the first lesson was?

thanks,

mj

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> > > the picture and said to myself, "Wait a minute, I have that book" LOL

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> > > I'll have to check it out. Another great book, that I'm working my

> > > way through now, is A Course in Weight Loss by nne .

> > > While it's geared towards weight loss, its focus is on mindful

> > > eating practices.

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Thanks for sharing those, . I found it interesting to do the letters to the not thin me and the thin me because I think I discount the fact that I can barely fathom a thin me. interesting!on another note, I just went to he chiropractor and found out that my knee arthritis is not a weight issue but a mild deformity in my left leg. all this time the shame and self attack...I could cry!!!anyway, thanks!!! Re: Re: Welcome!

That's exactly the way I've been approaching the book. So much of it helps with intuitive eating that it's easy to skim the " diety/thin " parts.I did chapter 8 the other day - " Surrender to the Divine " . Some of the portions that I highlighted are:As an overeater, you obviously eat excessively as a way of trying to calm the anxiety monsterSpirit makes your weight perfect because it makes everything perfectYou can't get rid of your compulsion, but Spirit canAnd the exercise for this chapter is:Each day for three days, write this in your journal pages, 30 times in the morning and 30 times at night: " Dear God, please feed my hunger and restore my right mind " as well as whenever you eat something during the day.I'll continue to post from chapters as I go through them.

Ya, I agree with you , I wouldn't want to be doing that either. It sounds really counter intuitive to me. I think when I get the book back, I'm going to have to skim those " diety/thin " parts because that doesn't appeal to me at all. Even so, I'm sure there is a lot to learn in the portions that do appeal to me.

thanks for posting

mj

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