Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 amalgams are mercury fillings. Make sure whoever removes them does it safely!! also, vaccinations contain mercury and aluminum, among other things. Have you tried to see a naturopathic Dr? They usually will help with fasting. ,but if fasting is causing you problems, maybe you should hold off on that for awhile. There are so many other things you can do for your health. I have been seeing a N.D. who does EDS screening and biofeedback to figure out what is wrong and I have found that it has helped alot and has answered alot of my questions about my health that the Drs couldnt figure out. Are you allergic to herbs? I was drinking this liver tea that helped me soo much also. I have alot less pain and they yellow in my eyes is gone. Also, I dont think that flushing will give you a problem when you pass the stones. I passed stones twice a week at least before I flushed and out of the 3 flushes that I did I only had one attack. ( I did get my gb removed). Good Luck!!!! >From: ectopistes@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: HELP >Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:03:53 -0400 (EDT) > > > >What are amalgams??? Steph > > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS > >Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael >God Bless America > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 I do have a lot of fillings come to think of it. Was always told that there was not enough mercury etc... in them to do much harm. Also I will see if I can find an alternative Dr. but would have to travel a long ways and have plenty of cash as I do not think insurance covers them. Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 I hope you are correct. My plan is to fast, do some lemons and figs and do the clustered water and chelation suppositories (which they say is nearly as good as the intervenious method now) and go on a detox diet. If I do not improve significantly then I will see about serious flushes and sonagrams. Maybe that is why the Dr. would not order one because he too knows it would do little good. Thankyou all again for your input----I do feel better with some knowledge that is " useful " and can now take some form of practical action. Flushes when I can do them will be good too as I am sure that any older person with a gall bladder needs to do that!!! My husband just purchased a product called Sea silver, a dietary suppliment liquid that is supposed to contain every essential vitamin and mineral for much better absorbtion. Has anyone tried this product or know anything about it before I start taking it? I am suspcious of everything any more---- Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 I believe you are correct that only the stuck stones cause any pain. I've passed at least 1,350 stones in 6 flushes and no pain at all Vince > Beleive me you will know when you are passing a stone. It is the most pain > you will ever feel. Worse than childbirth. Although I think thats only if it > gets stuck on the way out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 WOW Vince----what did you eat to earn that many stones? That must be a record, and if you say they do not hurt when you pass them, then you are the expert! Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 They have finally admitted that there is enough mercury to do harm, that is why some dentist remove them automatically. I also know that they shut down the california dental board for not informing patients about it. >From: ectopistes@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: HELP >Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 18:14:36 -0400 (EDT) > >I do have a lot of fillings come to think of it. Was always told that >there was not enough mercury etc... in them to do much harm. Also I >will see if I can find an alternative Dr. but would have to travel a >long ways and have plenty of cash as I do not think insurance covers >them. Steph > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS > >Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael >God Bless America > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 Hi Steph, I've got some bad news about the sea silver. On the colloidal silver list some analysis of their product was recently done at a lab. One of the list members reported that there was no detectable levels of several of the listed minerals. It appeared suspiciously like the product was not what it claimed to be. I agree that any adult nowadays needs to do some flushes. The liver can expell hundreds of stones even after the gallbladder has been removed. those stones hinder the proper function of the liver and prevent optimum health, digestion, and elimination. Alergies are cured when the liver is cleared. BTW, liver enzyme blood tests are not a measure of liver health. They are a measurment of whether the liver is just about completely destroyed or not. An analogy to a car would be to not change the oil or filter and not even check the oil level. We would find a problem only be regularly examining the oil and waiting util we see metal shavings in the oil to take action. Metal shavings in the oil would mean the the oil was broken down or completely gone, the filter was destroyed, and now the mechanic can fix it by rebuilding or replacing the entire engine. It would be a lot better to change the oil and filter regularly and keep sufficient quantity of oil to do the job. Long before liver enzymes in the blood are above the spec., the liver is clogged with fat, stones, and symptoms are available like allergies and more. Flushing the liver and supporting it with foods and herbs is always good. Vince > I hope you are correct. My plan is to fast, do some lemons and > figs and do the clustered water and chelation suppositories (which they > say is nearly as good as the intervenious method now) and go on a detox > diet. If I do not improve significantly then I will see about serious > flushes and sonagrams. Maybe that is why the Dr. would not order one > because he too knows it would do little good. Thankyou all again for > your input----I do feel better with some knowledge that is " useful " and > can now take some form of practical action. Flushes when I can do them > will be good too as I am sure that any older person with a gall bladder > needs to do that!!! > > My husband just purchased a product called Sea silver, a dietary > suppliment liquid that is supposed to contain every essential vitamin > and mineral for much better absorbtion. Has anyone tried this product > or know anything about it before I start taking it? I am suspcious of > everything any more---- Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 I have heard lots of great things about Sea Silver. I am going to start taking it when I get some money. My boyfriends step-father was saying that his father was in a wheelchair for many years (cant remember why) and after he started taking the sea silver he can now walk again, so i thought that was cool. My N.D. is always telling me I should get some. Another thing I heard was that sometimes the vitamins and minerals from the earth can be " tainted " by the environment and that vitamins and minerals from the sea are more pure. >From: ectopistes@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: HELP >Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 18:2 > > My husband just purchased a product called Sea silver, a dietary >suppliment liquid that is supposed to contain every essential vitamin >and mineral for much better absorbtion. Has anyone tried this product >or know anything about it before I start taking it? I am suspcious of >everything any more---- Steph > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS > >Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael >God Bless America > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Just thought I'd say that I did get pain during one cleanse,but I seem to be the only one!? >From: ectopistes@... >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: Re: HELP >Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 18:37:52 -0400 (EDT) > >WOW Vince----what did you eat to earn that many stones? That must be a >record, and if you say they do not hurt when you pass them, then you >are the expert! Steph > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS > >Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael >God Bless America > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 That is another thing I plan to do is get a good juicer . And thanks for the input on fillings and on the sea silver. Vince, I will also keep in mind your input on the sea silver as well---maybe there would be something better. Will have to research that some more. It is very expensive! It might be a matter of whether or not there was something as good or better for less money. Also if the zapper is limited on the debth of the parasites and where they are located, why would it be needed at all if one can get them with an intestinal cleanse----or does the zapper get some that the cleanse does not? Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Will do Pam, in fact I have been thinking all along that it may be a big answer to my problem since I cannot do a total fast and so many foods make me sick. I do not know how to proceed though so this book might be just the ticket. I wish I had a couple of grand to invest in my health right now----SOOOOO many things to try and to buy. The dentist alone would get thousands from me LOL. I need to win the lottery :>) Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Hi Steph, Sorry to have to tell you this, but that's not a record [1,350 stones] That's below average. Dr. Hulda says that in over 600 flushes that she has supervised, several flushes per person yielding 2000+ total stones per person were often needed to get them all, and stop symptoms of poor health. My last 2 of 6 flushes yielded less than 50 fairly small stones each. Now i'll wait several months and flush again. The maintenence schedule is about 1 or 2 times a year because we continue to form stones. My diet? Better than the Standard American Diet (SAD). Trouble is, my diet isn't perfect, but I don't eat any white flour, sugar, or margerine. I've improved my diet considerably after flushing. I'd rather produce less stones and flush less Vince > WOW Vince----what did you eat to earn that many stones? That must be a > record, and if you say they do not hurt when you pass them, then you > are the expert! Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 , Have you considered trying to duplicate the first flush you did? Might be worth a try My first flush was the evening after an American breakfast of bacon and fried eggs. I decided to flush that afternoon when my plans for the evening had changed. I had not made preparations for my flush because I had other plans for the evening. After 2:00 pm I followed the directions of the flush and got out 50 marble to pea size bright green stones. I felt fantastic for about a week. The next flush I followed the directions and got out about 200 small bb to pea size stones. I'm sure the directions should be followed in general, but since you have prior experience both good by not following the directions and bad by following the directions, why not try and see what happens if you do the flush the way you did the first time? I wouldn't recommend this to a first timer or one with a diseased gall bladder or with a history of attacks. I would think you would at least have to empty your bowels the next day to ensure the stones didn't just dissolve and go back into your system to recirculate without being neatly encapsulated in stones. Also, have you done a parasite cleanse? Dr. says the ones who had problems with the flushes that she supervised neglected the parasite cleanse. Vince > I did my first flush without doing any of the things I was supposed too, I > didnt fast(although I wasnt able to eat much to begin with) I didnt drink > apple juice, I didnt take epsom salts. nothing. My mom just called me in CA > and said I have to save my gb drink 1/2 c olive oil and 1/2 C lemon juice. > So I did and it was the most succesftul flush I did!! No nausea, I could > feel the stones sliding out, but no pain. And that is the only flush that I > actually saw any stones. I was also able to eat fat for about a week and a > half after that with no problem, which at that time was unheard of for > me.The fushes that I actually did follow instructions were horrible. Any > thoughts on this? > > > >Steph, I am doing Dr.'s flush with olive oil and grapefruit juice. > >Before the flush I take 3/4 of a cup of water with 1 tablespoon eps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 on the curezone site there is one variation of the clark cleanse-- i think it is dr lewis's he recommends eating cream or ice cream a few hours before the flush. this has the effect of dislodging the bigger stones by stimulating bile flow. then the flush is able to dispell them with greater ease i have tried this and it seems to work sometimes. sometimes not. i do have good success with eating high cholesterol foods sometimes before a flush either the same day or the days before. i can feel that it has a stimulating effect and helps push the larger stones forward. if it works without the epsom salts i would definitely continue without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Pam, without a good knowledge of the Word I would not be alive-----and especially the teachings of Norvel I am sure I would be institutionalized, rocking in some chair in a catatonic state with my eyes fixed on the ceiling LOL. When all the victory finally comes it is going to be ever so sweet------Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 I have to disagree, just because your liver enzymes are off does not mean your liver is about destroyed. You liver enzymes can be up during a gb attack when the bile gets backed up into the liver and then the liver gets inflamed. If the stone passes and you wait a few days, you liver enzymes go back to normal. >> .. BTW, liver enzyme blood tests are >not a measure of liver health. They are a measurment of whether the >liver is just about completely destroyed or not. An analogy to a >car > > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 zantac is not ranitidine. it is ranitidine plus some other crap. that is like saying water mixed with shit is water. would you drink shitwater? god only knows what ranitidine is. from http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/ranit.htm Ranitidine HCl is a histamine H2-receptor antagonist. Chemically it is N[2-[[[5-[(dimethylamino)methyl]-2-furanyl]methyl]thio]ethyl]-N¢-methyl-2 -n itro-1,1-ethenediamine, hydrochloride. The empirical formula is C13H22N4O3S·HCl, representing a molecular weight of 350.87. Ranitidine HCl is a white to pale yellow, granular substance that is soluble in water. It has a slightly bitter taste and sulfurlike odor. Oral ********************************************** <<please take careful note of aluminum. not to mention artificial food coloring>> Each Zantac 150 tablet for oral administration contains 168 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 150 mg of ranitidine. Each tablet also contains the inactive ingredients FD & C yellow No. 6 aluminum lake, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, titanium dioxide, triacetin, and yellow iron oxide. **************************************************************** Each Zantac 300 tablet for oral administration contains 336 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 300 mg of ranitidine. Each tablet also contains the inactive ingredients croscarmellose sodium, D & C yellow No. 10 aluminum lake, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, titanium dioxide, and triacetin. Zantac 150 geldose capsules and Zantac 300 geldose capsules for oral administration are soft gelatin capsules containing 168 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 150 mg of ranitidine and 336 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 300 mg of ranitidine, respectively, in a nonaqueous matrix of synthetic coconut oil and synthetic triglycerides. The soft gelatin capsule shell contains gelatin, sorbitol special (sorbitol and sorbitol anhydrides), glycerin, purified water, titanium dioxide, FD & C yellow No. 6, FD & C blue No. 1, and FD & C red No. 40. The capsule shell may also contain mineral oil and soybean lecithin. The capsules are printed with edible ink. Zantac 150 EFFERdose tablets and Zantac 150 EFFERdose granules for oral administration are effervescent formulations of ranitidine that must be dissolved in water before use. Each individual tablet or the contents of a packet contain 168 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 150 mg of ranitidine and the following inactive ingredients: aspartame, monosodium citrate anhydrous, povidone, and sodium bicarbonate. Each tablet also contains sodium benzoate. The total sodium content of each tablet is 183.12 mg (7.96 mEq) per 150 mg of ranitidine, and the total sodium content of each packet of granules is 173.54 mg (7.55 mEq) per 150 mg of ranitidine. Each 1 ml of Zantac syrup contains 16.8 mg of ranitidine HCl equivalent to 15 mg of ranitidine. Zantac syrup also contains the inactive ingredients alcohol (7.5%), butylparaben, dibasic sodium phosphate, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, peppermint flavor, monobasic potassium phosphate, propylparaben, purified water, saccharin sodium, sodium chloride, and sorbitol. Injection, Injection Premixed, and Injection Pharmacy Bulk Package¾Not for Direct Infusion Ranitidine HCl Injection is a clear, colorless to yellow, nonpyrogenic liquid. The yellow color of the liquid tends to intensify without adversely affecting potency. The pH of the injection solution is 6.7 to 7.3. Sterile Injection for Intramuscular or Intravenous Administration or Injection Pharmacy Bulk Package: Each 1 ml of aqueous solution contains ranitidine 25 mg (as the hydrochloride); phenol 5 mg as preservative; and 0.96 mg of monobasic potassium phosphate and 2.4 mg of dibasic sodium phosphate as buffers. Injection Pharmacy Bulk Package¾Not for Direct Infusion: A pharmacy bulk package is a container of a sterile preparation for parenteral use that contains many single doses. The contents are intended for use in a pharmacy admixture program and are restricted to the preparation of admixtures for intravenous (IV) infusion. Sterile, Premixed Solution for Intravenous Administration in Single-Dose, Flexible Plastic Containers: Each 50 ml contains ranitidine HCl equivalent to 50 mg of ranitidine, sodium chloride 225 mg, and citric acid 15 mg and dibasic sodium phosphate 90 mg as buffers in water for injection. It contains no preservatives. The osmolarity of this solution is 180 mOsm/l (approx.), and the pH is 6.7 to 7.3. The flexible plastic container is fabricated from a specially formulated, nonplasticized, thermoplastic co-polyester (CR3). Water can permeate from inside the container into the overwrap but not in amounts sufficient to affect the solution significantly. 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Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 My cousin has acid reflux and was taking Zantac, the Dr told me aunt that it should not be taken for a long period of time because eventually your stomach will stop digesting anything. Even without the aluminum that is enough to make me stop taking it!! >From: Mashteen Baqir <mashteenbaqir@...> >Reply-gallstones >gallstones >Subject: Re: HELP >Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 22:01:45 +0300 > >At 10:42 AM 25-05-03 -0400, aluckower stated: > >first of all get off the zantac. this could be the whole cause of your > >problems. > >i took it many years ago for a entire summer, and it completely destroyed >my > >digestion. if i were gven the choice of going back in time and receiving >a > >million dollars or not taking the zantac, it would be an obvious choice >for > >me, no zantac. > > > >you need hcl acid in your stomach for digestion. the more acid your >stomach, > >the better. zantac interferes with acid production in your stomach. > > > >Ranitidine ( > >Zantac) does indeed inhibit the production of hydrochloric acid. This >substance is used in digestion. However, in susceptible individuals it >causes erosion and ulcers and must therefore be inhibited in such people, >to protect them against erosive disease. There is today another generation >of acid-inhibiting medications for those people who do not tolerate or >benefit from > >Ranitidine. > >. > > >after > >you have stopped taking it, you can re acidify you stomach with apple >cider > >vinegar, lemons, or other foods high in chloride. read dr jensen's books >for > >high chloride foods. > >You must get competent medical advice before you stop taking prescribed >medicine, just as you must not take medicine prescribed for someone else >without medical consultation. > > >the pain you felt up high, might also have been just gas caused by the > >zantac destroying your digestion. zantac also contains aluminum. metal > >poisoning has been linked with just about every disease out there. stop > >eating metal. > > >Ranitidine > >contains no aluminum. Its formula is C13H22N4O3S·HCl, indicating that it >contains carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur and chlorine. > > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////// >mailto:mashteenbaqir@... >\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > > ---------- > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19-May-03 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Where are you all getting that there is aluminum in zantac? I cannot see it on the package unless it goes by a different name? And tums----does tums have aluminum or not? I says it does not on the bottle unless again it has a different name? I need to know because I have eat tons of tums----and aluminum scares me to death as I do not want alzhiemers. What are the facts here? Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 just because it is not on the label does not mean its not in there. A few months ago I went to GNC to get some of this whey protein powder my aunt recomended. I looked at the package and there was hardley any sugar in it, so I looked to see if it had aspartame, which I avoid. I t didnt have any. But the lady that worked there thought it did and she couldnt figure out what they could have put in it instead, so she called the company and after getting the run around she finally talked to someone who didnt want to answer her question, but she finally got it out of him that it did have aspartame!! can you belive it!? That is sooo illegal.!! > >Where are you all getting that there is aluminum in zantac? I cannot >see it on the package unless it goes by a different name? And >tums----does tums have aluminum or not? I says it does not on the >bottle unless again it has a different name? I need to know because I >have eat t] HELP >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT)ons of tums----and aluminum >scares me to death as I do not >want alzhiemers. What are the facts here? Steph > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon > > > >http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS > >Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael >God Bless America > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 WOW and yes I can beleive it! However, I still want to know how and who knows about there being aluminum in zantac and tums. I am a burnt chicken without tums, so I have this dire need to know syndrome LOL. Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Hi , Congratulations on the new addition to your family I wouldn't flush until after done breast feeding if I were you. The flushing could cause premature labor problems. You can use good fats, lecithin, and raw foods to eat well and control things that way. As far as parasites are concerned, I'd be careful of the strong herbs, but anti-parasitic foods would be helpful. Fennel seeds, pumkin seeds, garlic (raw and pressed mixed in juices isn't so bad), cloves, and there's no telling how many other things that would be safe for you and your baby. That's about the extent of my knowledge about protocols during pregnancy, but I'm sure there is more information out there. Vince > Vince, I would really like to try another cleanse, the problem is I am 12 > weeks pregnant. Do you know if it is safe to flush during pregnancy? I dont > even have a gb , and when I did my first flush I was having so many attacks > I was afraid to eat anything. I was thinking I could maybe flush after the > baby is born, but I will be breastfeeding, so I wont be able to do the fast > anyway. I did do a parasite cleanse, but it wasnt before my flush, it was 1 > year after my gb was removed. It was a Natures Sunshine cleanse, but I think > I still have parasites, because of where I used to live I think I am full of > them. I also have a lot of teeth that need to be filled, I thought I read > somewhere that can effect the flush. > > > > > >, > > > >Have you considered trying to duplicate the first flush you did? > >Might be worth a try My first flush was the evening after an > >American breakfast of bacon and fried eggs. I decided to flush that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 I agree . I was trying to say that doing nothing to help the liver until the liver enzymes are up is almost if not totally too late. If the enzymes are up due to a temporary condition and not due to the permanent state of health that would not be as bad. Vince > I have to disagree, just because your liver enzymes are off does not mean > your liver is about destroyed. You liver enzymes can be up during a gb > attack when the bile gets backed up into the liver and then the liver gets > inflamed. If the stone passes and you wait a few days, you liver enzymes go > back to normal. > > > >> > . BTW, liver enzyme blood tests are > >not a measure of liver health. They are a measurment of whether the > >liver is just about completely destroyed or not. An analogy to a > >car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 At 10:42 AM 25-05-03 -0400, aluckower stated: >first of all get off the zantac. this could be the whole cause of your >problems. >i took it many years ago for a entire summer, and it completely destroyed my >digestion. if i were gven the choice of going back in time and receiving a >million dollars or not taking the zantac, it would be an obvious choice for >me, no zantac. > >you need hcl acid in your stomach for digestion. the more acid your stomach, >the better. zantac interferes with acid production in your stomach. Rantidine (Zantac) does indeed inhibit the production of hydrochloric acid. This substance is used in digestion. However, in susceptible individuals it causes erosion and ulcers and must therefore be inhibited in such people, to protect them against erosive disease. There is today another generation of acid-inhibiting medications for those people who do not tolerate or benefit from Rantidine. .. >after >you have stopped taking it, you can re acidify you stomach with apple cider >vinegar, lemons, or other foods high in chloride. read dr jensen's books for >high chloride foods. You must get competent medical advice before you stop taking prescribed medicine, just as you must not take medicine prescribed for someone else without medical consultation. >the pain you felt up high, might also have been just gas caused by the >zantac destroying your digestion. zantac also contains aluminum. metal >poisoning has been linked with just about every disease out there. stop >eating metal. Rantidine contains no aluminum. Its formula is C13H22N4O3S·HCl, indicating that it contains carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur and chlorine. //////////////////////////////////////////////////// mailto:mashteenbaqir@... \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ---------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29-May-03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 Thanks for the info. on Zantac, now for the tums ----anyone please??? Does tums have aluminum in it despite the fact that the lable does not list it? Steph http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/PassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/ThePassengerPigeon http://community.webtv.net/ectopistes/MYPASSENGERPIGEONS Seu Tefila Le-Shlom Yisrael God Bless America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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