Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

[Guest guest]

LOL!! Yes, it's possible. Yes, it's limited, and therefore, you have to kinda

pick your battle of the day.

We removed orange juice and bananas. Although, my kids saw them in the grocery

store (bananas) and I got them. It didn't seem to affect them other than, that

was all they wanted, and I was going to try to use the bananas in a muffin

recipe. I can't now, as all of them are gone...

I feel the same!! I would love to eat at a restaurant again...

With the Feingold, gf/cf - I am fanatical. With ox's I am a little more

lenient, but watch them closely. With soy and corn, I have loosened up a

little, but not much.

My kids drink pineapple juice (2oz of organic knudson's w/6oz of water) and

lemonade. Lemonade is special (as it contains sugar, but it's homemade). Water

and Rice Milk (unsweet, Karma brand).

My kids have a juicer drink 2x's a day now. I just added golden delicious

apples back in (I am trying them). I juice these with carrots. Apparently the

malic acid in apples works well with the beta carotene in carrots. Carrots are

high ox, so it's a small juicer drink. The second juice is all veg mostly and a

couple of fruits like pears, pineapple, lemons and lime. (I tend to use 1 or 2

high ox veg) I use herbs too.

For meals, I use eggs, meat, poultry, fish, beans and lentils (we do 2 meatless

meal days a week). Things that don't juice well like squash, broccoli, green

beans, and fermented veggies (etc.) For snacks, it usually some cracker (rice)

with some dipping thing. Lately it's hummus. Watermelon, kiwi, blueberries or

some other fruit.

I had to try other things like Tempeh. My daughter likes it, my son won't touch

it. She gets that like once a month. It's part of my meatless meals.

It's hard to get a good round meal plan. I know, it takes planning and

persistence, and sometimes, I have been known to make breakfast for dinner, and

dinner for breakfast. We do eat bacon (about 1 time a month) and my sister

converted a recipe for waffles (gf/cf) and they are to DIE for. I make a

blueberry sauce and I use rice whip.

I am the master of the one pot meal. I love my crock pot (as it saves me

time!!). I spend about 1-2 hours a month planning meals (and days) to

incorporate our new diet. It works well because my husband knows what the day

is about. (I got this idea from and her calendar board...)

So, I hear ya. But actually, we aren't starving. I've lost over 40 lbs, I

haven't been a size 14 in a long time, and I am almost a 12. I keep my

revitapops on hand, and I always have some little snack thing that when I feel

like driving thru the drive thru, it gets me thru that mental hell of me just

wanting someone else to do the cooking. Then I chew on some L-theanine gum,

and take a couple of MB12's and I am back on track.

I get exhausted thinking about it...but then I grab a coffee (also high ox) with

my rice milk..and think, it's the best I have ever felt.

Hang in... laura

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> > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped his

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

sorry to jump in this topic, but I found this very informative.

http://www.developmentalspectrums.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=124:a-compilation-of-advice-for-using-the-low-oxalate-diet-for-autism & catid=75:low-oxalate & Itemid=274

Hope this can help!

Sorry for my misspelling. English is my second languague!

Grace

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 2:52:42 PMSubject: RE: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

Thanks ! Speaking of fermenting, I found organic, never heat-processed sauerkraut and kim-chi online. I know that nothing beats homemade, but for cooking-challenged people like me, do you think this is ok? It claims to have all the healthy enzymes, no preservatives, etc, etc.

- Kirk-

To: mb12 valtrex From: laurargoddin@...Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:32:59 +0000Subject: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

I'm going to use 's words "I am using a rotation diet, not THE rotation diet." -- meaning she rotated these foods over 4 days, it wasn't necessarily what was suggested. (I hope that makes sense) and yes, I use pineapple daily (fresh) because it's got great enzymes in it. And although it's high in salicycates, it's low ox and my kids LOVE it. We eat squash, differnt kinds, but baked with honey and Earth balance butter (soy free). We eat beans. I love beans, black beans, adzuki beans, pinto, cannelli beans and lentils. and I just put some on the meal plan. For variance, and nutrition.I make my own bean dip. We dip rice crackers in it, and I use it for making tacos. I just found an Ivory Teff (La Tortilla Factory) gluten free wrap I can use. It's a little rubbery, and trying to figure out how to make it less rubbery or bake it so that it can serve as a hard shell over a taco roll or something.And I found the

same thing - I spend about the same and we waste NOTHING. My food bill even with juicing - is about where it was when I thought I was eating healthy -- and I was, just not healthy for me or us! (Well, the muffins I made that came out like rocks wasted like $20 in ingredients!! ARGH!!)I love my juicer. I own and use my Jack LaLanne Power Elite Juicer (I got it for about $180). It was worth every penny. My dream is to own a Norwalk Juice Press. Don't look it up, and don't look at the price LOL! But if you do, you can see how much I love juicing. I thought I loved my fermenting crock, but I do love my juicer more. The juicer gets way more attention.There is a great list on the LOD website. It's categorized. So it helps with meal planning. It's what I use. I try to use only 1 high ox for each meal. It's not always possible, but I try.laura:)> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5> > >

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One kind of bean is low, some are medium, some are high. You have to consider how many of something you are eating. For instance, black beans are high. But when we order a rice bowl at chipotle, I have them put a scoop (1/2 cup?? maybe it's 1/4 cup) on, and we split that between three people, with the kids usually getting like 3 whole black beans LOL

Low bean is black eyed pea. Meh.Tahini is bad, but there are two girls on the list who have been playing with recipes a lot and they will help you out.I keep saying I want to try to make arugala and artichoke dip, but never get around to doing it!

 

OH yes, I will post it!! laura

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-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Are the chick peas ok?- Kirk-To: mb12 valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:39:32 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

One kind of bean is low, some are medium, some are high. You have to consider how many of something you are eating. For instance, black beans are high. But when we order a rice bowl at chipotle, I have them put a scoop (1/2 cup?? maybe it's 1/4 cup) on, and we split that between three people, with the kids usually getting like 3 whole black beans LOL

Low bean is black eyed pea. Meh.Tahini is bad, but there are two girls on the list who have been playing with recipes a lot and they will help you out.I keep saying I want to try to make arugala and artichoke dip, but never get around to doing it!

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-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

I believe they are medium... checking...8.4 per 1/2 cup. So completely doable if you are not feeding him the equivalent of a whole can as a snack. LOL (I used to eat mine this way.)

 

Are the chick peas ok?- Kirk-To: mb12 valtrex

From: bellbaby@...Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:39:32 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Low Oxalate/phenol/salicytate dietHi

 

One kind of bean is low, some are medium, some are high. You have to consider how many of something you are eating. For instance, black beans are high. But when we order a rice bowl at chipotle, I have them put a scoop (1/2 cup?? maybe it's 1/4 cup) on, and we split that between three people, with the kids usually getting like 3 whole black beans LOL

Low bean is black eyed pea. Meh.Tahini is bad, but there are two girls on the list who have been playing with recipes a lot and they will help you out.I keep saying I want to try to make arugala and artichoke dip, but never get around to doing it!

 

OH yes, I will post it!! laura

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-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

My son is almost 4 and I give him one a day. IF he looks like he isn't eating

or spitting things out, I give him two. I think after a while you start to

notice the signs of when they are def.

I also think his ox dumping is stealing his zinc...

laura

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> > > > > > year-old

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> > > > > > > > has

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > been

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging,

smacking

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > himself

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > in

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying,

posturing,

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>

> > > > > > > > etc...

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> > > > > > > > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No

one's

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> > > > > > gotten

>

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> > > > > > > > much

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in

abdominal

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > distress,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream

" diet

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped

his

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>

> > > > > > yeast

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> > > > > --

>

> > > >

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> > > > > Toni

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > ------

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > > >

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> > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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> > > >

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> > --

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> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --

>

> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son is almost 4 and I give him one a day. IF he looks like he isn't eating

or spitting things out, I give him two. I think after a while you start to

notice the signs of when they are def.

I also think his ox dumping is stealing his zinc...

laura

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > year-old

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > has

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > been

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging,

smacking

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > himself

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > in

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying,

posturing,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > etc...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > He

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No

one's

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > gotten

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > much

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in

abdominal

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > distress,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream

" diet

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped

his

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > yeast

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > protocol,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an

intolerance

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > for

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still

seeing no

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > change.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can

do to

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > help

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > him?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks.

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> > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > --

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Toni

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > ------

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --

>

> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --

>

> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son is almost 4 and I give him one a day. IF he looks like he isn't eating

or spitting things out, I give him two. I think after a while you start to

notice the signs of when they are def.

I also think his ox dumping is stealing his zinc...

laura

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my almost-5

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > year-old

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > has

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > been

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging,

smacking

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > himself

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > in

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying,

posturing,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > etc...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > He

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No

one's

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > gotten

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > much

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in

abdominal

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > distress,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to scream

" diet

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped

his

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > yeast

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > protocol,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an

intolerance

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > for

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still

seeing no

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > change.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can

do to

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > help

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > him?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > >

>

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> > > >

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> > > > >

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> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > --

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Toni

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > ------

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --

>

> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > --

>

> > Toni

>

> >

>

> > ------

>

> > Mind like a steel trap...

>

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You know, I don't know. I know that Calcium and Magnesium like to be at a

certain ratio which is why I don't put them together. I don't want them

competing. I guess I haven't gotten that far yet.

My biggest concern/goal whatever is getting the most nutrition in so that the

body can do what it's supposed to be doing. This is the reason I juice (so

much! everyday, most of the time now, 2 times a day) --

Juicing --because of it's neat form-- gets the benefit of having no barriers for

uptake. Barriers like fiber. Barriers of quantity. I can juice 4 carrots and

1 apple and have my kid drink it, thereby getting all the vitamins and enzymes

it has to offer, without the fiber to inhibit uptake, and the sheer quantity of

the brain turning off the hunger que. And...the vitamins in the form the body

understands with the enzymes needed to do what the body needs to convert it.

Food is truly a neat little package. I had read that juicer drinks (vitamins,

minerals, enzymes, amino acids) find it's way into the blood stream within 10

minutes, vs 3 hours, or never...

And it has the benefit of being raw. So you aren't cooking all the good stuff

out of it. (this is also why I like the idea of fermented foods, sprouted

foods, etc.) as the nutrition is increased dramatically.

And in my opinion, I think that lack of proper nutrition (in all it's forms) is

truly the root cause of all of this. Without it, your body doesn't have the

resources to kill a virus, or a bacteria, or the body to a status of alkaline so

that things like fungus can't survive. The more I read, the more I am convinced

that truly at the heart of dis-ease, is not enough resources in the nutrition

department. The body becomes confused and starts killing everything for

survival as in the case of allergies. Our bodies WANT to live. Even if it's

dysfunctional.

Just take a vitamin like B12. It has so many functions and operates on so many

levels, that if it isn't available, the symptoms are everything from wetting

your pants, acting crazy, autistic like symptoms, falling down due to balance

issues. I feel like if you flood the body with nutrition, it heals and gets

back in the game.

I keep reading things like that over and over and over, whether it be cancer,

autism, crohns, -- I mean, you name it...it's just a lack of the right stuff. I

mean, yes, you have assaults on the body like mercury, viruses, bacteria,

fungus, which causes these other things, but how many recovery stories are

really necessary to see the bottom line? I don't have a cold year round --My

body obviously fought off the whatever, virus, bacteria, and all I took was some

garlic, drank some soup, and kept fluids in me. I recovered.

I think Stan Kurtz was absolutely correct when he said that our kids are the

most biologically involved.

Take diet, remove the offenders, the bodies offense can get back up after a

blast - because it's not being flooded on the front line anymore. Take

antibiotics - kills everything, good, bad, indifferent, and allows you to do a

control, alt, delete. (Same with anti-virals) -- Probiotics, allows you to

plant seeds of good bacteria again, without a crowded yeast mess. These are all

tools. But the bottom line is - nutrition (vitamins, minerals, enzymes, amino

acids) is KEY. I truly believe that. I really believe that is what saved my

child. Nutrition is the soldiers, the rest are just ammo. When you run out of

soldiers -- what good is ammo?

laura

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need some help, here. Since Friday, my

almost-5

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > year-old

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > has

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > been

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > having such a difficult time. He's been head-banging,

smacking

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > himself

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > in

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > the face HARD, pinching, scratching, biting, crying,

posturing,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > etc...

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > He

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > also had red cheeks and ears and allergic shiners. No

one's

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > gotten

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > much

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sleep since Thursday night. It seems clear that he's in

abdominal

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > distress,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > but we can't figure out the cause. It also seems to

scream " diet

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > infraction!!! " , but I know his diet is clean. I've upped

his

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > yeast

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > protocol,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > but nothing has improved. Could he have developed an

intolerance

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > for

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > something new? I'm taking out rice, too, but am still

seeing no

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > change.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it's corn... ?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can

do to

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > help

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > him?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks.

> >

> > > > >

> >

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> >

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> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > --

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Toni

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ------

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Mind like a steel trap...

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > --

> >

> > > Toni

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ------

> >

> > > Mind like a steel trap...

> >

> > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > --

> >

> > > Toni

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ------

> >

> > > Mind like a steel trap...

> >

> > > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

> > >

> >

>