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--- In ketogenic , Bottorff

We are pretty much on 'hold' right now - waiting for the dietician's

call to talk about the diet, finding a hospital, etc... We're still

searching for a hospital that's relatively close to us (Southern

Indiana) that practices the Hopkin's protocol.

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My son is going to be admitted to Norton-Kosair in

Louisville, Kentucky to begin the Ketogenic diet. We live in

ville and our pediatric neurologist in Louisiville, Dr. Purri,

arranged our meeting with a dietician. Had you explored Norton-

Kosair? It is our understanding that our Dietician follows the

Hopkins protocol. She made us read " The Book. " :)

B. Combs

TomTom's Dad

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> Hi I am new to this group. I am 7w 1d pg and was diagnosed last week

> with b/u. I have been trying to do some research on this and have

> found a lot of conflicting information.

Congratulations! How are you doing this week?

I have a bicornate uterus as well and have 2 kids, an 8 year old daughter

and a 20 month old son ... they are perfectly fine. I don't think BU has

anything to do with birth defects at all ... my problem has been early

losses where the baby never developed a heartbeat ... I'm currently pg with

twins and my OB's only concern is pre-term labor and getting them large

enough to avoid ICU time (same as any other twin pg).

According to him the only real problem with BU is pre-term labor ... my

daughter was born at 35 weeks, but my son made it to 38 so nothing is

written in stone :) Other than that my pregnancies have been trouble free,

just needed C-sections because due to the BU my cervix doesn't dilate...

good luck!

mikki

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> I really thought I was going to struggle the first few

> days, but so far it is going great. It has forced me to

> be a little more creative! I would never have thought

> to dip broccoli crowns in balsamic vinigarette salad

> dressing for a snack, but all the dairy (cheese is

> suggested several times in the book) was getting to

> be too much for me.

:-) A lot of folks find things ain't so hard once they get into it. As for

the cheese, I've really been enjoying that 'un. <Grin> For years I've been

lactose intolerant -- the mere sight of cheese was enough to send me packin'

for the potty! Now, I've been very much enjoying cheese each day. It's

been a boon to me for calcium as well. Still won't do milk though -- just

can't bring myself to take that chance. :)

> I've been eating Breyers All Fruit Popsicles made with

> Splenda for dessert. Does anyone know if these are legal?

While the splenda is ok (although I wouldn't use it -- yuck!), the bars are

not. There's a double whammy here -- first and foremost, it's made from

fruit. During P1 fruit is off-limits. The second issue is that nagging

little 75 calorie daily sweets limit. Although Agatston states this was put

in place more to ward off potential GI issues from sugar alcohols (too much

can really wreak havoc with your system) it has been applied across the

board regardless.

> Also, it's my understanding that milk is not allowed in the

> first phase, but I saw another post that listed skim milk as

> part of her daily menu. Is skim okay in this phase?

Yes it is fine. The SBD is an ever-changing beast. After the initial

printing of the book, Agatston and his crew began tweaking the diet in a

big, big way. Many foods and such have been added since the book came out.

The updates are posted to the oh-fishy-all SBD website that costs $5 a week

to access. However, almost as soon as an update hits it trickles down to

the groups where you can access that information for free. :)

If you go to the files area for this group (on the Yahoogroups home page for

this group) you will find all the latest and greatest info. At the very

least you'll want to download the most current Foods to Enjoy/Foods to Avoid

list for the 2 phases.

> Looking forward to sharing advice, recipes and menu ideas.

Hit the files area -- lots there! :)

> One more thing...I tried Somersizing severa months ago and

> have some left over SomerSweet (sugar substitute). I'm

> assuming this would be legal...does anyone know for sure?

To get the official word, one would have to ask the SBD nutritionists. I've

let my website access lapse (i.e., I think it's a waste of money and so did

NOT renew) so perhaps someone else with access can formally inquire for you.

The key to this WOE is to make informed decisions. According to Suzanne

Somers' website, SomerSweet has the following ingredients:

Oligofructose, Inulin, Fructose, Sprouted Mung Bean Extract, Acesulfame K

The fructose is " technically " ok but not recommended with much favor. The

Aces K is an artificial sweetener. The inulin is a type of fiber.

I'll wager the SBD nutritionists will wave this one off with a, " personal

choice " response.

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I found that listening to some audio really helped--especially the relaxation

exercises and guided imagery around food issues.

Geneen Roth does that a lot on her audio (4 part series when food is love and

love is food) and there are some free guided imagery podcasts online by Kaiser

(https://members.kaiserpermanente.org/redirects/listen/) and Itunes University

(Guided imagery)

I was really surprised the effect it had on me, not only during the audio, but

afterwards. It slowed life down enough for me to see what I was doing in my mind

around food, without judgement.

Kate

>

> Hi everyone,

> I am so glad I found this group. I used to do Weigh Down, then Thin Within

along with all the normal diets and crash diets. I know that by eating only

when I am hungry and eating what I am hungry for, I can lose weight, but I can't

seem to quiet my mind long enough to listen so I am hoping that by being in this

group I will learn how everyone else handles emotional eating and eating when

you aren't hungry.

>

> Thanks for being here. Loretta

>

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Hi Heidi,

Former bulimic here, too. I've been working my compulsive eating

issues for a long time. Every year it gets easier in some ways, but

I'm not quite there yet. I'm more at peace with food than I've ever

been, but not quite there. If only I could go back to my younger self

with what I know now.

My best advice is to be patient with yourself. This is a journey of

self-awareness you'll be on all your life, but at some point I think

you'll find peace with it.

Sohni

Hi, new internet friends.

I am new, and I just want to introduce myself. I'm a recovered bulimic

(almost 2 years) who has tried everything to find peace with food and

body image. Intuitive eating is the only thing that has worked for me.

I initially used Overcoming Overeating to overcome my eating disorder,

which helped me greatly. Now I am finding continued growth in the work

of Geneen Roth.

I am working on being more present in every area of my life, especially

with eating. I have made a conscious decision to not eat while I am on

the computer. I am trying to muster the willingness to not eat while

otherwise distracted (reading, TV, etc.) But it feels like punishment

to me. I know it's not, but that's how it feels.

I would love some feedback or suggestions from you guys.

Thanks so much!

Heidi in KY

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Tai,Welcome...This is a calming group in itself...I've just been here over a week but I'm so glad I'm here. Sounds like you are in a wonderful new place and I would say just continue listening to the voice you are hearing moment to moment, the one that tells you to walk away when you feel full....good for you in honoring and recognizing the impulses, they are our greatest teacher if we can listen...(I'm speaking from my own experience---someone who was anorexic and also binged and purged periodically...) Sending warmest intentions~~~Subject: New to GroupTo:

IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 7:08 PM

I just joined the group and have began eating intuitively over the past week. My journey has not been terribly long, but a painful one. Over one year ago I began struggling with restricting and anorexia. My weight got extremely low and before I knew it something clicked or switched in me and I began bingeing and eating compulsively. My weight is healthy now, but I have constant fear of putting on more weight. I've tried several approaches (restricting, food plans, etc) and nothing has worked to help me stop the binge.

Since beginning the intuitive eating I've felt more relaxed and calm than I have in months. I've not been bingeing and I've found that I am able to eat, feel full, and walk away. There have been a few days when I've eaten out of emotional hunger and not so much stomach hunger, but I'm working to accept that and know that as time passes I'll be able to better manage those impulses.

Any suggestions about readings would be appreciated. Thanks,

Tai

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Laurie, Thank you!

I will definitely take your advise and start journaling.

These last few days have been interesting. When I would get a headache, I would

eat. The headache would go away. So, I started being hyper vigilant about

feeling hunger before I got another headache. No luck. However, I was eating

quite often due to the headaches. Then last night, about three hours after

dinner my stomach started to growl. I was surprised and delighted that my body

was actually starting to telling me when it needed to eat.

I didn't know that I was so out of touch with my feelings that I didn't even

know when I was hungry.

Thanks again for the support!

Debbie

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Welcome, Dee! We're glad to have you.

I don't post a lot, but do read everything and what everyone has to share is very insightful and helps me through this journey.

Rhonda

From: eathealthy2006

Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:02 PM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: New to group

I just wanted to say hi to the group. This is my first post. I joined a few days ago. I have never read the book about Intuitive Eating. I saw Geneen Roth on Oprah and bought a couple of her books. I am currently reading Women, Food and God. There is so much in the book that speaks to me and I have had several "aha" moments. Still working through everything and trying to figure out all the emotional stuff. I am not doing the full out intuitive eating yet. But, I have become more aware of my eating issues--when and why. Also working on my self-image and the guilt and not beating myself up so much. Looking forward to this journey.Dee

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