Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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Kirkman

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> From: jkryan34

> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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> My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

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METAGENICS has a folapro that is more broken down. my son couldn't do folic acid either but does fabo on metagenics.

From: jkryan34

Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:28 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

Kirkman>> what brand are you trying?> > > > From: jkryan34 > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid> > > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!>

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Thank you, everyone, for all of your responses and suggestions. Christel, I've

heard that before. Do you know why he does so great on Folapro? I'm starting to

look into the Yasko Protocol since my son does not tolerate many supplements

that are so helpful to others. Whenever he doesn't do well on a supplement, I

want to know why because I feel like that's so important to solving this puzzle.

Does your son tolerate B6? Mine does not, and I've been trying to figure out why

for the longest time. Most DAN doctors and nurses have just said to stay away

from it, but he's deficient in B6, and I feel he needs it. I really wish his

doctor would help me figure out why he doesn't tolerate B6! Thank you again for

your insights.

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> > From: jkryan34

> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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> > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

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folapro is methyltetrahydrofolate, most folinic is formyltetrahydrofolate

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> > > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to

his

> > > > mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on

the

> > > > mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD.

His

> > > > DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in

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> > > > past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month!

> > > > Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in

trouble at

> > > > school for being " too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to

the

> > > > class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this

> > > > experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed

to

> > > > allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a

month? I

> > > > feel like his doctors are not listening to me!

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For whatever its worth, I just want to mention that my son did improve alot on Folapro.

Thanks

Ali

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 9:02:52 PMSubject: Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

folapro is methyltetrahydrofolate, most folinic is formyltetrahydrofolate> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his> > > > mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the> > > > mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD.

His> > > > DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the> > > > past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month!> > > > Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at> > > > school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the> > > > class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this> > > > experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to> > > > allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I> > > > feel like his doctors are not listening to me!> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >>

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METAGENICS has a folapro that is more broken down. my son couldn't do folic acid either but does fabo on metagenics.

From: jkryan34

Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 9:28 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

Kirkman>> what brand are you trying?> > > > From: jkryan34 > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM> To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid> > > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!>

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He hasn't had failure to thrive but is in the 25th percentile for weight (75th

for height). However, he is only 4 pounds heavier than his younger brother (they

are 2 1/2 years apart). I feel like he should be heavier. He is also 2 pounds

lighter than I was when I was his age (He is 5 1/2 now and weighs between 38 and

39 lbs). He does have poor muscle tone I think. I have tried the B6 in

pyrodoxine and P5P forms AND combined with the magnesium (Kirkman brand). No

matter how much or how little I give him, he becomes an emotional mess- very

depressed, weepy w/ meltdowns, mean, and obsessive. It's awful to see. I feel he

must have some genetic polymorphisms going that Yasko talks about. So

frustrating when your child needs a nutrient but cannot tolerate it. Many things

seem to make him worse like B6, methyl b12, folinic acid, and DHA.

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> > > From: jkryan34

> > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM

> > > To: mb12 valtrex

> > > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid

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> > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his

mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12

significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN

wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it

made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after

taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being

" too goofy. " This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been

in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I

am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at

school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not

listening to me!

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that may mean you are lacking in something else to absorb it.....I can pull out my charts tommorrow and do a walk through and see what cycles are blocked up. do you do any enzymes? what does his diet look like? does he have yeast issues, the b12 nad b6 can kick up yeast (and both would be high phenols I would think as well) do you have a kid with phenol issues?

From: jkryan34

Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:28 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Bad reaction to folinic acid

He hasn't had failure to thrive but is in the 25th percentile for weight (75th for height). However, he is only 4 pounds heavier than his younger brother (they are 2 1/2 years apart). I feel like he should be heavier. He is also 2 pounds lighter than I was when I was his age (He is 5 1/2 now and weighs between 38 and 39 lbs). He does have poor muscle tone I think. I have tried the B6 in pyrodoxine and P5P forms AND combined with the magnesium (Kirkman brand). No matter how much or how little I give him, he becomes an emotional mess- very depressed, weepy w/ meltdowns, mean, and obsessive. It's awful to see. I feel he must have some genetic polymorphisms going that Yasko talks about. So frustrating when your child needs a nutrient but cannot tolerate it. Many things seem to make him worse like B6, methyl b12, folinic acid, and DHA. > > >> > > what brand are you trying?> > > > > > > > > > > > From: jkryan34 > > > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:01 PM> > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > Subject: Bad reaction to folinic acid> > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new DAN just prescribed 200mcg of folinic acid in addition to his mb12 which he has been on for 2 months. While his behavior improved on the mb12 significantly, he became overly sensitive, weepy, clingy with OCD. His DAN wanted him to try folinic acid again even though I told her that in the past, it made him extremely hyper. She wants me to try it for a month! Today, after taking 200 mcg of folinic acid for 3 days, he got in trouble at school for being "too goofy." This means very stimmy and disruptive to the class (he hasn't been in trouble since Sept.) Has anyone else had this experience w/ folinic acid? I am so frustrated.... Am I really supposed to allow my son to get in trouble at school? How can I try this for a month? I feel like his doctors are not listening to me!> > >> >>