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I sure understand how you feel. Whenever someone has to stuff down something

that is truly painful to them it becomes a powerful trigger for that person or

group of people. I think this one is particularly challenging in that either way

it causes equally painful triggers.

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Sunny

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> Hello,

>

> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the recent posts

and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I needed to say something. The

optimism and self respect with which people have written about their

relationships with food has provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to

make peace with food.

>

> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about weight loss

needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it seems to being happening a

lot more recently). The perspective of most IE I have read is this: making

weight loss your goal has never resulted in weight loss for you before and

making weight loss your goal will not work now. And I understand that many

people on this list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets

but that they still want to lose weight.

>

> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list, reading

discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous weights, needing to lose

weight, weight as health, gaining weight, needing to feel light, needing to feel

free, etc) can be upsetting and triggering. For some of us, losing is as

dangerous as gaining and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat

anything at all.

>

> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different rules apply

concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle anyone's freedom of

speech; I just want people to be aware of potential consequences of their

comments. This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if

it does. I hope to remain part of this community.

>

> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when the journey

seems impossible.

>

> Cheers

> ~

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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I too agree on weight.

Yes, some of you are concerned about your weight. But that's not

really appropriate chat for this group. There are plenty, and I mean

PLENTY, of weight loss groups out there to discuss getting smaller.

Good luck!

> Hello,

>

> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the

> recent posts and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I

> needed to say something. The optimism and self respect with which

> people have written about their relationships with food has

> provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to make peace with food.

>

> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about

> weight loss needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it

> seems to being happening a lot more recently). The perspective of

> most IE I have read is this: making weight loss your goal has never

> resulted in weight loss for you before and making weight loss your

> goal will not work now. And I understand that many people on this

> list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets but

> that they still want to lose weight.

>

> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list,

> reading discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous

> weights, needing to lose weight, weight as health, gaining weight,

> needing to feel light, needing to feel free, etc) can be upsetting

> and triggering. For some of us, losing is as dangerous as gaining

> and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat anything at all.

>

> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different

> rules apply concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle

> anyone's freedom of speech; I just want people to be aware of

> potential consequences of their comments. This post was not

> intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if it does. I hope

> to remain part of this community.

>

> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when

> the journey seems impossible.

>

> Cheers

> ~

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your comments surprised me so i went back to the group homepage to see if

discussing weight was inappropriate chat for this group. From the homepage it

does seem to be appropriate to discuss the " Intuitive Eating method of weight

loss " . I know it's hard to read emotion/intent in email so my surprise came from

what i read in your post as a dismissive invitation to those concerned with

weight to go find another group. Hopefully thats not how it was meant at all. I

hope this group is tolerant and inclusive of all who want to heal thier

relationship with food no matter what their triggers or where they come from in

thier journey.

Sunny

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> I too agree on weight.

>

> Yes, some of you are concerned about your weight. But that's not

> really appropriate chat for this group. There are plenty, and I mean

> PLENTY, of weight loss groups out there to discuss getting smaller.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the

>> recent posts and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I

>> needed to say something. The optimism and self respect with which

>> people have written about their relationships with food has

>> provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to make peace with food.

>>

>> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about

>> weight loss needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it

>> seems to being happening a lot more recently). The perspective of

>> most IE I have read is this: making weight loss your goal has never

>> resulted in weight loss for you before and making weight loss your

>> goal will not work now. And I understand that many people on this

>> list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets but

>> that they still want to lose weight.

>>

>> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list,

>> reading discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous

>> weights, needing to lose weight, weight as health, gaining weight,

>> needing to feel light, needing to feel free, etc) can be upsetting

>> and triggering. For some of us, losing is as dangerous as gaining

>> and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat anything at all.

>>

>> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different

>> rules apply concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle

>> anyone's freedom of speech; I just want people to be aware of

>> potential consequences of their comments. This post was not

>> intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if it does. I hope

>> to remain part of this community.

>>

>> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when

>> the journey seems impossible.

>>

>> Cheers

>> ~

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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To me, April, what you wrote is the healthiest attitude to have.

Whatever our circumstance, if we are not in perfect health, we want

to achieve better health. Part of that may involve losing weight;

but the point you correctly made is that the weight needs to come

off as a side-effect of healthy living (mental and spiritual health

as well as physical).

In other words, address the cause, not the symptom.

I think it's useful to note at this point that IE feels good not

only for overweight people, but indeed for most people with an

unhealthy relationship to food.

Paddy

I think most of us wouldn't be here if

weight hadn't been foremost in our concerns for a

long time. Why else would we have suffered for so

long with so many diets? So if some of you are able

to simply not think about weight loss, my hat's off

to you. I'm not able to. Nor do I think I have to.

The thinking that has to change is not

that I want to lose weight, but that losing weight

has to do with restriction. The huge

paradigm shift of IE is that it is satisfaction,

free choice, trusting the body, having a joyful

relationship with food that will...yes...ultimately

help our bodies find whatever their natural weight

is, which for some of us will mean losing pounds. IE

will of course do much more than that - it will give

us back our ability to be at ease with food - but I

for one also look forward to my body finding its

natural, healthy weight in time.

April M.

In a message dated 3/25/2011 7:03:39 A.M. Eastern

Daylight Time, dawn.believes@... writes:

, I agree 100%. I think it can be confusing

to some of us, myself included, when there are so

many conversations about weight loss. And though

wieght is an issue for me...I tend to obsess over

it WAY to much and it can be dangerous for me.

That is why I do IE. I don't have to count

anything (calories, carbs, my weight, ect.). When

I start thinking about that I start wanting to

'diet' again and that is not good. I think we

should instead be dicussing how we feel and what

we do to avoid thinking in these ways. But, that

is only my opinion. I am new to the group and

don't want to step on anyone's toes.

Be blessed,

Dawn

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I understand where you're coming from , and I'm really happy you decided to bring it up rather than abandon the group, which I hope can still offer you a lot of valuable information and support. I think the beauty of a group like this should be that, while me may not all agree with one another, we can have open and frank discussions about these issues in order to learn more, explore, broaden our perspectives, and gain support in this journey. I also am still in a fairly vulnerable place and talk of weight loss can have a negative impact on me as well. I agree with everyone that I hope we can continue to have honest and open discussion and respect the boundaries of those of us who with to focus on weight loss, as well as those of us who don't feel that focus first with our IE journey. 

I also feel that, while we need to practice self-care and be aware of what we surround ourselves with (e.g. not reading women's magazines or things that might reinforce negative thoughts or trigger diet behavior), it's also helpful to practice and bolster our abilities to react to these influences as well. We'll never be able to control what comes at us out in the real world or in this group. But we can work on our ability to observe, control, and react positively to these things, and I think by practicing open and respectful discussion this group is the perfect place to work on that.

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Great point. Thanks. Sandy

 

To me, April, what you wrote is the healthiest attitude to have.

Whatever our circumstance, if we are not in perfect health, we want

to achieve better health. Part of that may involve losing weight;

but the point you correctly made is that the weight needs to come

off as a side-effect of healthy living (mental and spiritual health

as well as physical).

In other words, address the cause, not the symptom.

I think it's useful to note at this point that IE feels good not

only for overweight people, but indeed for most people with an

unhealthy relationship to food.

Paddy

 

I think most of us wouldn't be here if

weight hadn't been foremost in our concerns for a

long time. Why else would we have suffered for so

long with so many diets? So if some of you are able

to simply not think about weight loss, my hat's off

to you. I'm not able to. Nor do I think I have to.

  The thinking that has to change is not

that I want to lose weight, but that losing weight

has to do with restriction. The huge

paradigm shift of IE is that it is satisfaction,

free choice, trusting the body, having a joyful

relationship with food that will...yes...ultimately

help our bodies find whatever their natural weight

is, which for some of us will mean losing pounds. IE

will of course do much more than that - it will give

us back our ability to be at ease with food - but I

for one also look forward to my body finding its

natural, healthy weight in time.

April M.

 

In a message dated 3/25/2011 7:03:39 A.M. Eastern

Daylight Time, dawn.believes@... writes:

, I agree 100%. I think it can be confusing

to some of us, myself included, when there are so

many conversations about weight loss. And though

wieght is an issue for me...I tend to obsess over

it WAY to much and it can be dangerous for me.

That is why I do IE. I don't have to count

anything (calories, carbs, my weight, ect.). When

I start thinking about that I start wanting to

'diet' again and that is not good. I think we

should instead be dicussing how we feel and what

we do to avoid thinking in these ways. But, that

is only my opinion. I am new to the group and

don't want to step on anyone's toes.

Be blessed,

Dawn

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Dawn R.

I think what you are saying is just fine. I don't think that the point is to

never mention weigh at all. I think people are just saying that it doesn't need

to be what we are worrying about...but, if your jeans are loose and you wanna

share, well, I see nothing wrong with that. That is great!!! I know if I start

to feel lighter I will share it but I will not obsess over my weight either.

And, I don't do IE just because of weight. But, if I think I have lost some

wieght I will soooo be bragging about right here :)

Be blessed,

Dawn

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Abby, that was SO well put, and really inspired me. Thank you!- Casey-- Sent from my iPhone

I think honoring our bodies is exactly what IE is about.. and if that results in you "releasing" some weight (I love this term from Latoya, who has been a member for a while), and that's what you are hoping for, great!

I WILL warn you that some of us (myself and Katcha too, I believe) found that as soon as we shared our "weight loss success" with the group... we found ourselves overeating and gaining weight back again! The very fact of celebrating "success" apparently scared some part of us... and caused us to lose our focus on IE. We started thinking about how, "that wasn't hard, if I just did this one little thing even better, I could lose even more weight!"

And BAM! we lost our focus on IE. not to mention the pounds came back.So that's one MORE reason that some of us prefer not to focus on weight loss.

i think for myself, celebrating pounds loss was strangely threatening to some part of my psyche... because if I'm happy to have changed, or to have less of me, that's a sort of criticism of my previous self. and my "Inner Wild Child" got very defensive about that. and reverts to... surprise! eating!

so that's a big thing for me why I don't like to focus on weight, why I don't weigh myself, and why I don't talk about my weight loss or gain. (i'm a LITTLE more open to it now, halfway through my pregnancy, and even that has taken quite a while... it was very scary at first.)

that said, i don't think anyone should feel silenced. celebrating your IE success can certainly include weight loss... but it's the part that we don't control. some of us have metabolic conditions that prevent or restrict weight loss, and yet we can be just as successful as those that easily "release" excess weight. and others on the list have no need or desire to lose weight. but our successes in changing our MINDSET... that is something we can ALL share and delight in! what we CAN control is our actions, and changing our damaged thought processes... so to ME, these are the things to celebrate on, and things I'm more interested in hearing about.

Katcha, In fact scales were not used to weigh people in medical offices until the life insurance industry got involved by creating out of thin air the height weight charts... in home scales were not mass produced until after WW1!

Jenna

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:17:34 AMSubject: Re: Concerning Weight

I enjoyed reading 'your say' and that is so part of this journey and group. I know that when I find myself focusing on 'weight' its a personal wake up call for me to re-direct my thinking towards the IE principles. If a group member is focused on weight, I feel sad for them because I know I have pain from that misdirection myself.

Here's a bit of comic relief I'd like to offer - picture a CAVEMAN standing on a scale! The irony of this is beyond the fact that scales didn't exist then, its more to point out that our bodies weren't evolved to use an 'amount' to live by. For me that is the entire point of IE - to return back to meeting body directed needs.

And I can soooo hear that caveman mumbling "I know its the club that is causing the extra pounds."

Journey on!

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hello,

>

> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the recent posts and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I needed to say something. The optimism and self respect with which people have written about their relationships with food has provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to make peace with food.

>

> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about weight loss needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it seems to being happening a lot more recently). The perspective of most IE I have read is this: making weight loss your goal has never resulted in weight loss for you before and making weight loss your goal will not work now. And I understand that many people on this list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets but that they still want to lose weight.

>

> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list, reading discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous weights, needing to lose weight, weight as health, gaining weight, needing to feel light, needing to feel free, etc) can be upsetting and triggering. For some of us, losing is as dangerous as gaining and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat anything at all.

>

> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different rules apply concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle anyone's freedom of speech; I just want people to be aware of potential consequences of their comments. This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if it does. I hope to remain part of this community.

>

> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when the journey seems impossible.

>

> Cheers

> ~

>

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Sounds like you are doing really good with IE. I have just started on the road, so things may be a little different for me.  I'm always glad to hear the good too.  Yours was a really good post for me. Thanks. Sandy

 

April and Paddy, your combined comments have moved me to respond.I've been quiet and just soaking up the comments the last few days mostly, and really myself, starting to wonder about remaining on the list because the word 'weight' seems to have become such an issue lately. 

I came to IE when I found myself staring at the food in my pantry going, " What will make me feel better. "   Wow, that blew my mind, but I did leave the pantry without food.  I knew then that I had to change my relationship with food, and that if I did so, the excess weight would likely come off.  I talked to my mom, and saw the Oprah cover on WFG and ended up here.  I've never done an official diet in my life, but I have that ingrained diet mentality, and a history of using food for

comfort and security.  So my grandpa dies, or my uncle, or my house is flooded, you know what, I can still get chips and dip. (wry smile)

The thing is, while I still have a long way to go on my journey, and I don't manage to follow some of the principals at times, IE is working for me.  I'm finding myself not eating as often emotionally, not beating myself up when I do, and I'm exercising again and it all feels good.  Along with all of that is coming a change in body shape and size and well, I'd like to feel able to share here as moved or as it seems to come up naturally.  This group has been full of such support and good advice on days I've had questions or wondered about things, or struggled with food, that I'd like to share the good days and things too. 

I want only to be healthy, to have a good relationship with my food and

have the best body I can.  I want to feel better when I play with my young children and be a good example for them.  But, here's the thing about many of those goals, they (for me) are going to come with or mean weight loss.  As this group is a support for the bad and hard days, I want to be able to share the joy and excitement on the good days too.  I've even got some ready made examples.  Last night, I wasn't hungry, but I was blue, and I acknowledged that I was going to eat.  Thought and thought for something to eat (remember I wasn't hungry, it wasn't easy) and finally settled on something to make my mouth and brain satisfied.  I did all of this without beating myself up about the need to eat, just an acknowledgement that I was going to eat and it was because I a bit down.  While digging in the freezer, I discovered I wanted ice cream more than the pizza rolls so I switched to the more satisfying food, and

today because I was being IE and because I've been working on IE for a while, my pants fit looser, they feel better on me, and it's easier to bend down and clean up the sick kid mess. 

I started out wanting to talk about how you support me on bad days, but I'm not allowed to mention that I've lost weight through IE because weight loss is not supposed to be the focus, just a tangent, and how that didn't feel quite right to me, how, I want to share the weight loss as well, and as I've typed, I've come to the conclusion that once again, it's not what you say, but how you say it.  If I say the scale is down XX lbs, that will throw some people into territory that is difficult for them to handle and struggles I don't really wish to cause; but if I say, my pants are starting to need a belt, and I still ate that ice cream last night after I walked 5 miles, and I'm getting ready to put flavored

mayonnaise and cream cheese on a tortilla for breakfast because that's what sounds good and makes my mouth water; that means the same thing, but is easier for people to process.  I'm going to leave this post as it because it seems relevant to some current discussions, and I think is a reasonable example of how some of the group is feeling, I'd like to acknowledge that it might be difficult for some to read and hope all realize that it was not my goal, just the outcome of saying some things I felt moved to share.  Once again, I've come to a point, where I wish to express my thanks.  The support during the hard times is amazing, and even the hard discussions lead me to learning more about myself and how to interact with others in a better way.

Dawn RLandau

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 5:36:58 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Concerning Weight

 

To me, April, what you wrote is the healthiest attitude to have.

Whatever our circumstance, if we are not in perfect health, we want

to achieve better health. Part of that may involve losing weight;

but the point you correctly made is that the weight needs to come

off as a side-effect of healthy living (mental and spiritual health

as well as physical).

In other words, address the cause, not the symptom.

I think it's useful to note at this point that IE feels good not

only for overweight people, but indeed for most people with an

unhealthy relationship to food.

Paddy

 

I think most of us wouldn't be here if

weight hadn't been foremost in our concerns for a

long time. Why else would we have suffered for so

long with so many diets? So if some of you are able

to simply not think about weight loss, my hat's off

to you. I'm not able to. Nor do I think I have to.

  The thinking that has to change is not

that I want to lose weight, but that losing weight

has to do with restriction. The huge

paradigm shift of IE is that it is satisfaction,

free choice, trusting the body, having a joyful

relationship with food that will...yes...ultimately

help our bodies find whatever their natural weight

is, which for some of us will mean losing pounds. IE

will of course do much more than that - it will give

us back our ability to be at ease with food - but I

for one also look forward to my body finding its

natural, healthy weight in time.

April M.

 

In a message dated 3/25/2011 7:03:39 A.M. Eastern

Daylight Time, dawn.believes@... writes:

, I agree 100%. I think it can be confusing

to some of us, myself included, when there are so

many conversations about weight loss. And though

wieght is an issue for me...I tend to obsess over

it WAY to much and it can be dangerous for me.

That is why I do IE. I don't have to count

anything (calories, carbs, my weight, ect.). When

I start thinking about that I start wanting to

'diet' again and that is not good. I think we

should instead be dicussing how we feel and what

we do to avoid thinking in these ways. But, that

is only my opinion. I am new to the group and

don't want to step on anyone's toes.

Be blessed,

Dawn

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Yes 'weight' is a modern day type focus that has been pushed by insurance so it

can keep its balance sheets positive in their favor ;-) I take weight about as

seriously as I do cholesterol counts - less allll the time. Both seem just

another 'leash' on us sheeple to jerk around . . .

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the recent

posts

> >and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I needed to say something.

The

> >optimism and self respect with which people have written about their

> >relationships with food has provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to

> >make peace with food.

> >

> >

> > My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about weight loss

needs

> >and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it seems to being happening a

lot

> >more recently). The perspective of most IE I have read is this: making

weight

> >loss your goal has never resulted in weight loss for you before and making

> >weight loss your goal will not work now. And I understand that many people

on

> >this list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets but that

> >they still want to lose weight.

> >

> >

> > What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list, reading

> >discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous weights, needing to

lose

> >weight, weight as health, gaining weight, needing to feel light, needing to

feel

> >free, etc) can be upsetting and triggering. For some of us, losing is as

> >dangerous as gaining and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat

> >anything at all.

> >

> >

> > I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different rules

apply

> >concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle anyone's freedom of

> >speech; I just want people to be aware of potential consequences of their

> >comments. This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry

if

> >it does. I hope to remain part of this community.

> >

> > Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when the

journey

> >seems impossible.

> >

> >

> > Cheers

> > ~

> >

>

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I am not sure rachel if this is NOT an eating disorder list.

There are so many kinds of eating disorders and obseesing about weight,

calories, diet food, and other things are part of eating disorders.Ylou don't

have to starve, binge and purge to qualify as a person with an eating disorder.

anyway, I do value the fact that you voiced your concerns

>

> Hello,

>

> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the recent posts

and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I needed to say something. The

optimism and self respect with which people have written about their

relationships with food has provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to

make peace with food.

>

> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about weight loss

needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it seems to being happening a

lot more recently). The perspective of most IE I have read is this: making

weight loss your goal has never resulted in weight loss for you before and

making weight loss your goal will not work now. And I understand that many

people on this list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets

but that they still want to lose weight.

>

> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list, reading

discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous weights, needing to lose

weight, weight as health, gaining weight, needing to feel light, needing to feel

free, etc) can be upsetting and triggering. For some of us, losing is as

dangerous as gaining and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat

anything at all.

>

> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as such, different rules apply

concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle anyone's freedom of

speech; I just want people to be aware of potential consequences of their

comments. This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if

it does. I hope to remain part of this community.

>

> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when the journey

seems impossible.

>

> Cheers

> ~

>

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I'd hate to think that there could be potential consequences for someone that reads one of my posts (I really mean that - I'd never want to upset someone to the point that they might not eat). But I think that sometimes thoughts just flow and people say what they are thinking and feeling, which may include feelings on lightness or feeling free, etc. I have mostly been just reading for the past few months, but your thread touched me and made me want to respond. 's "go away" response on top of your concerns make me wonder if I, too, should leave the group, but Sunny's response put it into perspective. Thanks for an awesome reply, Sunny. IE is for everyone.

I generally start my day reading posts and it has really helped to know that others struggle with food like I do. I started IE with the help of a counselor several months ago and I am still amazed by how unhealthy my relationship with food had been, and by how much better I feel since I started. I don't think I'll ever be one of those that doesn't really think about food, but it's much less of an "issue" than before.

My best to all of you as we heal and help each other.

sharon > >> Hello,>> >> I have been started feeling really uncomfortable with some of the >> recent posts and while I considered just disappearing, I felt I >> needed to say something. The optimism and self respect with which >> people have written about their relationships with food has >> provided invaluable reassurance in my journey to make peace with food.>> >> My concern is the increased frequency of people talking about >> weight loss needs and goals (it is certainly not everyone, but it >> seems to being happening a lot

more recently). The perspective of >> most IE I have read is this: making weight loss your goal has never >> resulted in weight loss for you before and making weight loss your >> goal will not work now. And I understand that many people on this >> list are trying IE because they wanted an alternative to diets but >> that they still want to lose weight.>> >> What I need to tell you is that for some people on this list, >> reading discussions focusing on weight (losing weight, previous >> weights, needing to lose weight, weight as health, gaining weight, >> needing to feel light, needing to feel free, etc) can be upsetting >> and triggering. For some of us, losing is as dangerous as gaining >> and the days we struggled with IE, we failed to eat anything at all.>> >> I know this is not an eating disorders list and as

such, different >> rules apply concerning talk about weight. I do not mean to stifle >> anyone's freedom of speech; I just want people to be aware of >> potential consequences of their comments. This post was not >> intended to offend anyone, and I am truly sorry if it does. I hope >> to remain part of this community.>> >> Thanks to all of you who have inspired me to keep trying even when >> the journey seems impossible.>> >> Cheers>> ~> > > ------------------------------------> >

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