Re: Is This from IE?

[Guest guest]

Laurie,What a beautiful, beautiful day. Thank you for sharing! p Hi, all, First, thanks to catlady for posting the Roth podcasts. I'd heard two of them, but the other two were new to me. Today was a very good day for me--IE made perfect sense for the first time and didn't feel alien at all. I waited until hungry to eat and ate exactly what I wanted and not more than I needed. I went for a walk tonight because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to, and I enjoyed every minute of it, taking more than an hour to finish walking. As I was waiting for one light to turn before crossing over to Lake Michigan (I live in Chicago within walking distance of the lake--love it!), a thought suddenly came to me that (duh) eating was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse, and exercise was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse. I can't tell you how long it's been since either one of these made me feel anything but crummy and miserable. As I walked along, I noticed that the world felt dramatically 3-D instead of flat as it usually does. I had noticed this to a lesser extent two weeks ago, a few weeks after starting IE in earnest. Tonight I saw birds flying from tree to tree, and I could *feel* the 3-D space. Trees looked amazingly 3-D. Everything looked so incredible and beautiful. I hate to sound like a Pollyanna, but it almost brought me to tears. When I got home, I discovered to my surprise after taking a shower that I was hungry again. I ate a few hazelnuts to see if this would do, but no, I was actually hungry, though I'd eaten maybe three hours earlier. So I thought about what I wanted to eat, and it came to me that I really wanted...(you ready for this?)...franks and beans. Now I know people eat these, but I've never had the two actually mixed together. A hotdog and a side of beans, on occasion, but not mixed. But that's what I wanted. I had 3 organic beef franks and a can of organic baked beans, so I made them up. I ate half the can with the freshly cooked franks, and it tasted absolutely fabulous! It was a relatively small bowlful, but it satisfied me all but completely. As I was finishing the bowl, I realized I wanted a whole-grain cracker with a shaving of sharp cheddar. I ate it, and it was phenomenal. I have never tasted food this good, and I can't remember the last time I actually knew exactly what I wanted to eat and felt satisfied by eating a little of it. I stopped eating because I had no desire to feel miserable now that I knew that eating could make me feel so good. Are these heightened sense experiences due to being out of food fog? It's wonderful, but also a little freaky. Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing? Does it last? (Not sure I want it this intense always.) Laurie

[Guest guest]

sounds amazing to me!  Keep it up!

 

Hi, all,

First, thanks to catlady for posting the Roth podcasts. I'd heard two of them, but the other two were new to me.

Today was a very good day for me--IE made perfect sense for the first time and didn't feel alien at all. I waited until hungry to eat and ate exactly what I wanted and not more than I needed. I went for a walk tonight because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to, and I enjoyed every minute of it, taking more than an hour to finish walking. As I was waiting for one light to turn before crossing over to Lake Michigan (I live in Chicago within walking distance of the lake--love it!), a thought suddenly came to me that (duh) eating was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse, and exercise was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse. I can't tell you how long it's been since either one of these made me feel anything but crummy and miserable.

As I walked along, I noticed that the world felt dramatically 3-D instead of flat as it usually does. I had noticed this to a lesser extent two weeks ago, a few weeks after starting IE in earnest. Tonight I saw birds flying from tree to tree, and I could *feel* the 3-D space. Trees looked amazingly 3-D. Everything looked so incredible and beautiful. I hate to sound like a Pollyanna, but it almost brought me to tears.

When I got home, I discovered to my surprise after taking a shower that I was hungry again. I ate a few hazelnuts to see if this would do, but no, I was actually hungry, though I'd eaten maybe three hours earlier. So I thought about what I wanted to eat, and it came to me that I really wanted...(you ready for this?)...franks and beans. Now I know people eat these, but I've never had the two actually mixed together. A hotdog and a side of beans, on occasion, but not mixed. But that's what I wanted. I had 3 organic beef franks and a can of organic baked beans, so I made them up. I ate half the can with the freshly cooked franks, and it tasted absolutely fabulous! It was a relatively small bowlful, but it satisfied me all but completely. As I was finishing the bowl, I realized I wanted a whole-grain cracker with a shaving of sharp cheddar. I ate it, and it was phenomenal. I have never tasted food this good, and I can't remember the last time I actually knew exactly what I wanted to eat and felt satisfied by eating a little of it. I stopped eating because I had no desire to feel miserable now that I knew that eating could make me feel so good.

Are these heightened sense experiences due to being out of food fog? It's wonderful, but also a little freaky. Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing? Does it last? (Not sure I want it this intense always.)

Laurie

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[Guest guest]

Laurie, thanks for describing what it means to be in tune with IE! I'm still

fairly new to the IE concept, and I think I've only had one day like you

describe, but it was an a-hah moment for me, and as you said, felt really good!

I am coming to terms with how much of a process this really is. Being a

perfectionist as I am, I want to do this perfectly, but struggle to do so. That

brings me back to the " I'll start tomorrow in earnest, since I wasn't perfect

today " . So, my experience is that I have moments where I feel really in tune

with IE, but not entire days (except once) where I go to bed feeling like I've

really got this down!

I find it very encouraging to hear about your victorious day - thanks for

describing it in such detail for all of us! I feel like I lived it with you,

and it gives me insight for today.

PJ

>

> Hi, all,

>

> First, thanks to catlady for posting the Roth podcasts. I'd heard two of them,

but the other two were new to me.

>

> Today was a very good day for me--IE made perfect sense for the first time and

didn't feel alien at all. I waited until hungry to eat and ate exactly what I

wanted and not more than I needed. I went for a walk tonight because I wanted

to, not because I felt I had to, and I enjoyed every minute of it, taking more

than an hour to finish walking. As I was waiting for one light to turn before

crossing over to Lake

[Guest guest]

How inspiring! I had a somewhat similar (not as great as yours!) experience after listening to one of geneens visualizations. I took a walk outside and the world looked different. My life had slowed and when I ate, I only wanted half and threw the rest away. That was a first.KateHi, all,First, thanks to catlady for posting the Roth podcasts. I'd heard two of them, but the other two were new to me.Today was a very good day for me--IE made perfect sense for the first time and didn't feel alien at all. I waited until hungry to eat and ate exactly what I wanted and not more than I needed. I went for a walk tonight because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to, and I enjoyed every minute of it, taking more than an hour to finish walking. As I was waiting for one light to turn before crossing over to Lake Michigan (I live in Chicago within walking distance of the lake--love it!), a thought suddenly came to me that (duh) eating was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse, and exercise was *supposed* to make you feel better, not worse. I can't tell you how long it's been since either one of these made me feel anything but crummy and miserable. As I walked along, I noticed that the world felt dramatically 3-D instead of flat as it usually does. I had noticed this to a lesser extent two weeks ago, a few weeks after starting IE in earnest. Tonight I saw birds flying from tree to tree, and I could *feel* the 3-D space. Trees looked amazingly 3-D. Everything looked so incredible and beautiful. I hate to sound like a Pollyanna, but it almost brought me to tears.When I got home, I discovered to my surprise after taking a shower that I was hungry again. I ate a few hazelnuts to see if this would do, but no, I was actually hungry, though I'd eaten maybe three hours earlier. So I thought about what I wanted to eat, and it came to me that I really wanted...(you ready for this?)...franks and beans. Now I know people eat these, but I've never had the two actually mixed together. A hotdog and a side of beans, on occasion, but not mixed. But that's what I wanted. I had 3 organic beef franks and a can of organic baked beans, so I made them up. I ate half the can with the freshly cooked franks, and it tasted absolutely fabulous! It was a relatively small bowlful, but it satisfied me all but completely. As I was finishing the bowl, I realized I wanted a whole-grain cracker with a shaving of sharp cheddar. I ate it, and it was phenomenal. I have never tasted food this good, and I can't remember the last time I actually knew exactly what I wanted to eat and felt satisfied by eating a little of it. I stopped eating because I had no desire to feel miserable now that I knew that eating could make me feel so good.Are these heightened sense experiences due to being out of food fog? It's wonderful, but also a little freaky. Has anyone else experienced this kind of thing? Does it last? (Not sure I want it this intense always.)Laurie

[Guest guest]

I really identify with what you are saying PJ. I too am a perfectionist and am

new to IE and this is a VERY hard thing to do perfectly. Since it's not like a

written diet where you follow very specific rules I'm not even sure I will ever

feel like I did it perfectly. Everyday I tell myself that I am starting over,

when to be honest I never really quit. It's just that I always feel like I'm not

doing it right. Does that make any sense? I am definitely doing better and I

have meals when I feel I am really following the principles of IE but I still

feel I don't really have this down yet. I read WF & G (LOVED IT) and started this

about 3 weeks ago but trying to figure out what I want to eat instead of what I

need to eat is so foreign to me that it is causing me a lot of anxiety. Then I

started reading Geneen Roth's earlier book " Breaking Free from emotional eating "

and she said that if you can't deal with trying to figure out what you want to

eat all day long start with just one meal a day and work your way up to the

entire day. That advice really helped me. It is so hard for me to not have

concrete, very rigid rules and be able to follow them perfectly but I am

learning. It is hard to break out of that diet mentality and not jump on the

latest greatest diet to get rid of these last 20lbs fast especially now that

summer is here. I used to be very overweight and had kept the majority of the

weight off for 10 years but there are days that I still feel like I did at my

heaviest. I know it " the voice " that I have to quite in my head and that it

isn't who I am. I know logically that I am loved the same even if I am not at my

ideal weight. I realize the shame I feel isn't about my weight. THIS IS HARD!

There are times that I just want to eat and not have to think or feel but one

you know something you can't un-know it so there is no going back. If nothing

else WF & G made me not be able to binge without realizing what I am doing which

was half the reason for it.

Robin

> >

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > First, thanks to catlady for posting the Roth podcasts. I'd heard two of

them, but the other two were new to me.

> >

> > Today was a very good day for me--IE made perfect sense for the first time

and didn't feel alien at all. I waited until hungry to eat and ate exactly what

I wanted and not more than I needed. I went for a walk tonight because I wanted

to, not because I felt I had to, and I enjoyed every minute of it, taking more

than an hour to finish walking. As I was waiting for one light to turn before

crossing over to Lake

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Robin and PJ,

I have a good dose of the perfectionist in me, too, and I still struggle with that. Geneen says when we have feelings, to get curious about them. When I ask myself, "What would happen if I didn't get it exactly right all the time?" I hear things in my head like, "I'll get totally fat and people will think I'm disgusting," and "People who love me now won't love me any more," etc. (I've got a million fears like this rumbling around in my head!). Of course all those things are really off-base, and I can see that when I dig into my panic about always getting it right. I then explore the panic and anxiety--what it feels like, does it have a shape, a color, etc. This grounds me in my body, where I discover I *can* make it through these feelings, and gets me out of my crazy head, and I always feel better--IF I can remember to do all this!

Laurie

Robin wrote:

>>>I really identify with what you are saying PJ. I too am a perfectionist and am new to IE and this is a VERY hard thing to do perfectly. Since it's not like a written diet where you follow very specific rules I'm not even sure I will ever feel like I did it perfectly. Everyday I tell myself that I am starting over, when to be honest I never really quit. It's just that I always feel like I'm not doing it right.<<<