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I have been a Hospice volunteer for 6 years now. You and your family are in

good hands. Glad things are going well for you. Hang in there, drlingirl

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> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful friend

> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about her

> care and what happens afterward.

>

> MY

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Hang in there. This is tough, no matter what your relationship was. It sounds

like you're getting to make peace with the whole situation. We'll be thinking

of you -

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> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful friend

> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about her

> care and what happens afterward.

>

> MY

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(((((((MY)))))))

No matter what the relationship has been, it can be hard to say a final goodbye

to a parent. I'm glad for you that you and your brother have each other's love

and support and are there in person for each other, that is such a blessing. I

hope the obnoxious friend will have some empathy for you and your brother and

back off.

best wishes,

-Annie

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> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful friend

> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about her

> care and what happens afterward.

>

> MY

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>

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Thank you everyone for your kind messages. I really, really appreciate them.

One thing that I think I can reallly only say here and to my husband is - I

did not get here while she was conscious and that has turned out to be a

huge blessing .(I did not feel like I needed to see her at all before she

died so I mean in contrast to if she were conscious.) She is not so scary to

me unconscious, she is not able to push all of my buttons by demanding

things and switching between the waif and the queen in her dying, I don't

have to deal with her waffling about every decision and then her doubt of it

afterward - I am just making them for her (like no feeding tube, etc.). In a

wierd way, having her unconscious has enabled me to care for her in a way

that I never could have if she were conscious. If she were conscious, I

would already have gone back home, but I find myself able to be here and to

actually be glad to be part of the process.

I'm so glad I can expres this here and that you all understand. Many people

here assume that I am or should be upset that I did not see her when she was

conscious and would be mortified that I am actually really, really glad that

I did not and find relief in being with her in her current state.

Thank you all.

MY

> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful friend

> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about her

> care and what happens afterward.

>

> MY

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Things have been status quo for the last 24 hours or so - Nada is

unconscious but appears to be comfortable and peaceful.

The only thing right now that I keep having some anxiety about (well other

than her friend who continues to push all of my buttons, but today she was

only hear for about 2 hours rather than all day - and she doesn't make me

anxious, just mad) is that the Hospice nurse said today when we asked her

about how long it might be - she said it could be up to 2 - 3 weeks! I have

been operating on the assumption that it would be just a few days and had no

idea that someone could live that long without food or more importantly

fluids. Though when I read the Hospice info, which is very helpful, she

still does not have several of the signs you are likely to see in the last

few days or hours - like mottled skin on hands and feet.

I know I can not know what is going to happen, but I feel like if that is

the case then we really need to come up with a different plan than what we

are currently doing. My brother and I can not just be at her house almost

constantly for the next 2 - 3 weeks. I will want to go back home and be with

my family if it is more than a few days more. I don't want to abandon my

brother to take care of everything though. And unless one of us is available

to continue to do the primary caregiving then she will either need to have a

different plan than the current hospice situation or we will have to hand

control back to the over bearing friend. It may be fine overall to just hand

things back to the friend as long as I am not hear to see/experience it. We

have 24 hour care from in home aids, but they won't qualify as a primary

caregiver for hospice - needs to be someone who knows her and is more

consistent.

My husband and kids came today and will go back home tomorrow. If she is

still the same by Sunday morning, I think I will need to go back home too

and try to figure out a plan with my brother.

Thank you.

MY

> Thank you everyone for your kind messages. I really, really appreciate

> them.

>

> One thing that I think I can reallly only say here and to my husband is - I

> did not get here while she was conscious and that has turned out to be a

> huge blessing .(I did not feel like I needed to see her at all before she

> died so I mean in contrast to if she were conscious.) She is not so scary to

> me unconscious, she is not able to push all of my buttons by demanding

> things and switching between the waif and the queen in her dying, I don't

> have to deal with her waffling about every decision and then her doubt of it

> afterward - I am just making them for her (like no feeding tube, etc.). In a

> wierd way, having her unconscious has enabled me to care for her in a way

> that I never could have if she were conscious. If she were conscious, I

> would already have gone back home, but I find myself able to be here and to

> actually be glad to be part of the process.

>

> I'm so glad I can expres this here and that you all understand. Many people

> here assume that I am or should be upset that I did not see her when she was

> conscious and would be mortified that I am actually really, really glad that

> I did not and find relief in being with her in her current state.

>

> Thank you all.

>

> MY

>

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>> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

>> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

>> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

>> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

>> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

>> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

>> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

>> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful friend

>> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

>> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

>> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

>> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about her

>> care and what happens afterward.

>>

>> MY

>>

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MY - It sounds like this has gone from being a sprint to a marathon of sorts, so

you will have to settle in for a longer haul than expected I think this is one

of those times when you pull out all the stops and go " Full General Patton " for

the duration. You and your brother can schedule 24 or 48 hours shifts to stay

at her house. If there are health aides there, you will have time to sleep or

run to the store if needed (to give yourself a break), and you won't be running

back and forth to your house every day, or running out of clean clothes. Also,

if you can schedule shifts, you'll know you can go to work (and so can your

brother). Just having a plan in place (even if it doesn't work) will also reduce

the stress because you won't be " re-acting " - you'll be proactive. Keep a

notepad by her bed and take notes for the next caregiver - that will help to

track the physical changes so you can see the process over time, and can catch

up easily when you relieve the exhausted caregiver who's on the way home.

If Nada is a member of a church (or if you or your brother are) or other

organization that might pitch in, this is the time to let somebody deliver some

casseroles or deli trays. Much like having a new baby, you need to plan to

include good health time for yourself - so if you can go work out, or walk

around the block every day, that will help. If you have a source of community

support, by all means let them help. You can return the favor in years to come.

Although it's sad, dying is a part of living, and it needn't cause you to be in

emergency mode the whole time. You and your brother can go through this

experience in an ordered, mutually supportive way, so that when it's over

there'll be sadness, but not regret.

Take care of yourself while you're taking care of your mom -

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> >> I wrote earlier that my mom went on hospice and that my husband and I

> >> planned to visit her later in the week. Well, she went from alert and

> >> conscious though sleepy on Monday night - to no consciousness on Tuesday

> >> afternoon. My brother asked me to come and help him, so I am now here. Many

> >> things have been good - it really is a blessing that she is not conscious

> >> and is not in pain. She will not be given food or liquids per her wishes -

> >> comfort care only. So, it is a matter of time at this point. There have

> >> been a lot of things to navigate including a well meaning and helpful

friend

> >> who has become more than a bit too controlling and overbearing about my

> >> mom's care. And I am really tired, but overall grateful - things could be

> >> and could have been much worse. Have been able to make a bunch of future

> >> plans with my brother - thank fully we are really on the same page about

her

> >> care and what happens afterward.

> >>

> >> MY

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