Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Are you using VSL#3? Very open question - DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Routine oriented means it could be PANDAS from exposure to strep. GO to www.pandasnetwork.org to learn the symptoms and treatments for PANDAS which gets worse with exposure to strep. Subject: Routine-orientedTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM Very open question - DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yes we do. But we've been using that for a pretty long time. > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have > > this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to > > think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to > > be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 We had done strep test - but that was a while ago. It had come negative at that time. > > > > Subject: Routine-oriented > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > Â > > > > Very open question - > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 A strep test will not show PANDAS which is an autoimmune reaction to strep. You can run ASO and DNASE titers to see if these are high but in 50% of kids w/ PANDAS they are not high. You need to learn the symptoms of PANDAS and see if your child has some of those symptoms. www.pandasnetwork.org Subject: Re: Routine-orientedTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 10:01 AM We had done strep test - but that was a while ago. It had come negative at that time.> > > > Subject: Routine-oriented> To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > Â > > > > Very open question - > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Can this be a side effect of anti-viral therapy? What I mean is, the virus goes down with anti-viral, but yeast and parasites show up once the viruses are gone. That's why we keep using anti-fungals. It seems like his clotridia is up and I'm going to ask the doctor for a Flagyl prescription today. Could the rountineness also be caused by something similar? > > > > Subject: Routine-oriented > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > Â > > > > Very open question - > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 VSL #3 has strep strains in it which can cause our kids to have PANDAS flare ups. WE like Custom Probiotics which does NOT have any strep strains Subject: Re: Routine-orientedTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 10:01 AM Yes we do. But we've been using that for a pretty long time.> > >> >> > Very open question -> >> > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have> > this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to> > think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to> > be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 We had done these tests - although a while ago. I don't think he had a problem at that time - I'll go back and check again today. Thanks for your inputs. I went to that site and from very initial reading he seems to be showing those signs. He had one incident of motor tics for the first time in his life. He's been having anxiety issues that are OCD like - need for constant attention. I have an appointment with my DAN today. And I'll ask him if he recommends an anti-biotic? I think he anyways needs Flagyl for his clotridia. Whether that'll address the strep or not I don't know. > > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@> > > Subject: Routine-oriented > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 how did they test? rapid, culture or blood? how long after symptoms appeared From: Arpita Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:01 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Routine-oriented We had done strep test - but that was a while ago. It had come negative at that time.> > > > Subject: Routine-oriented> To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > Â > > > > Very open question - > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 blood > > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@> > > Subject: Routine-oriented > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The only positive strep test my son had was on a comprehensive stool analysis. All other tests are negative, yet he has PANDAS. > > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@> > > Subject: Routine-oriented > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Flagyl will not address the strep. THe 2 most popular choices for PANDAS is azithromycin or augmentin. Azithro is easier on the gut and only needs to be dosed once per day. You'll need a daily dose for awhile and then maintain a weekly or 2 times per week dose. My son is soooo severly effected he is on a 2 to 3 times per day dose of azithro and his symptoms are very slowly fading. We are also looking into IVIG. Subject: Re: Routine-orientedTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 10:38 AM We had done these tests - although a while ago. I don't think he had a problem at that time - I'll go back and check again today. Thanks for your inputs. I went to that site and from very initial reading he seems to be showing those signs. He had one incident of motor tics for the first time in his life. He's been having anxiety issues that are OCD like - need for constant attention.I have an appointment with my DAN today. And I'll ask him if he recommends an anti-biotic? I think he anyways needs Flagyl for his clotridia. Whether that'll address the strep or not I don't know.> > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@>> > Subject: Routine-oriented> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> >> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Any recommendations on this? Is the bacteria showing up because the viruses have been addressed by anti-viral? > > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@> > > Subject: Routine-oriented > > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Viruses, bacteria, yeast, parasites and heavy metals are all bound together by biofilm. As you treat one piece it may flare up others. You may have to treat more than one thing at once. You can run stool tests to see what's coming out. You can also try using modified citrus pectin which helps eliminate things from the body. Oral disodium EDTA also dirupts the biofilm binding these things together. Subject: Re: Routine-orientedTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 11:40 AM Any recommendations on this? Is the bacteria showing up because the viruses have been addressed by anti-viral?> > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@>> > Subject: Routine-oriented> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Do you think it is OCD behavior? Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of ArpitaSent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:21 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Routine-oriented Very open question - DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Rule out pandas To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 1:38:06 PMSubject: RE: Routine-oriented Do you think it is OCD behavior? Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of ArpitaSent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:21 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Routine-oriented Very open question - DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 He does get obsessed with objects but I don't think its OCD. I asked his therapist last week and she mentioned that although DS wants something, he's ok if you refuse it. She mentioned that OCD kids just can't do without it. That it why it is called obsessive compulsive disorder. > > Do you think it is OCD behavior? > > > > Pamela > > > > From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On > Behalf Of Arpita > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:21 PM > To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Routine-oriented > > > > > > Very open question - > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this > problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think > that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be > like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 for us that means yeast up or strep From: Arpita Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:20 PM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Routine-oriented Very open question - DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 was it gamma strep showing? From: Caryn_Reid Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:55 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Routine-oriented The only positive strep test my son had was on a comprehensive stool analysis. All other tests are negative, yet he has PANDAS.> > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@>> > Subject: Routine-oriented> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 sounds like PANDAS From: Arpita Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:38 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Routine-oriented We had done these tests - although a while ago. I don't think he had a problem at that time - I'll go back and check again today. Thanks for your inputs. I went to that site and from very initial reading he seems to be showing those signs. He had one incident of motor tics for the first time in his life. He's been having anxiety issues that are OCD like - need for constant attention.I have an appointment with my DAN today. And I'll ask him if he recommends an anti-biotic? I think he anyways needs Flagyl for his clotridia. Whether that'll address the strep or not I don't know.> > > > > > From: Arpita <ghosharpita@>> > Subject: Routine-oriented> > To: mb12 valtrex > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:20 PM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Very open question - > > > > DS has lately become extremely rountine-oriented. He never used to have this problem. Do you think any supplements or Rx can cause this? I tend to think that something is contributing to this behavior 'coz he never used to be like this. This doesn't seem like his natural self.> >> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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