Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

[Guest guest]

I would wait to start the LDN until yeast is under control. Talk to your DAN about adding in diflucan for the yeast. Also get a good stron probiotic (we like Custom Probiotics).

Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDNTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:06 AM

Good Morning,My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN

now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.Thanks Taly

[Guest guest]

for us we couldn't get yeast under control TILL we LDN, it brought the immune system in balance so yeast could STAY gone.

probiotics did nothing for us since they didn't stick with having biofilm issues

From: Fund

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:19 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

I would wait to start the LDN until yeast is under control. Talk to your DAN about adding in diflucan for the yeast. Also get a good stron probiotic (we like Custom Probiotics).

Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDNTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:06 AM

Good Morning,My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.Thanks Taly

[Guest guest]

I would be checking for PANDAS again since you saw this, that kind of a test confirms a dx. how long after strep are you trying to test?

From: wenruiz2

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:06 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

Good Morning,My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.Thanks Taly

[Guest guest]

Many kids take antibiotics and antifungals every day for years.

>

> Good Morning,

>

> My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he

has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin,

diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My

son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed

improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back

negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on

azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore

off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we

just started.

>

> My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know

we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on

antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were

scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait

for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under

control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a

couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not

taken care off.

>

> If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Taly

>

[Guest guest]

We did test for strep antibody but it came back negative. Our DAN did say that

even with negative test he could still be a PANDAS kid and that if we again see

a gain with antibiotics then this would confirm the fact that he is a pandas

kid.

Thanks for your reply Christel, so but I'm at work and can only post when I get

a break.

Taly

>

> I would be checking for PANDAS again since you saw this, that kind of a test

confirms a dx. how long after strep are you trying to test?

>

>

>

> From: wenruiz2

> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:06 AM

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

>

>

>

> Good Morning,

>

> My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he

has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin,

diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My

son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed

improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back

negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax

and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because

of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.

>

> My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know

we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on

antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were

scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait

for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under

control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a

couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken

care off.

>

> If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Taly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Our son was on Diflucan for approx 8 weeks, after 6 weeks we tested for yeast

and he still had high levels of arabinose yeast in his urine. Our DAN has

mentioned doing biofilm if the nizoral that he is currently on does not take

care of yeast. This is why we are concerned about doing the antibiotic, and

increased yeast.

My son is currently on Therbiotic complete 25bil twice a day and also on Kirkman

Lactobisilius Duo 25bil twice a day. We asked him about custom probiotics (we

just heard of them) but he does not stoke custom probiotic and said I would just

have to go to their website and choose one (he was not much help). Would you

mind letting me know which custom probiotic you use?

Thanks and sorry to not post right away I am doing it while on work.

Thanks

Taly

>

>

>

> Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:06 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Good Morning,

>

> My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he

has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin,

diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My

son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed

improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back

negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax

and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because

of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.

>

> My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know

we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on

antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were

scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait

for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under

control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a

couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken

care off.

>

> If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Taly

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Taly,

I hope you hear back from someone better versed than I am, but (just in case) you might consider googling Pandas and taking a longer look. I believe that a strep test will always come back negative unless, by chance, it is taken within a certain time - frame of the strep exposure. So that might be something you want to look further into. I've heard lots and lots of stories from people who thought they were chasing the yeast beast when in all actuality it turned out to be pandas or clostridia. If you're seeing a definite improvement on antibiotics, it makes good sense to check it out. Hope this helps.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 9:06:51 AMSubject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

Good Morning,My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now

wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.Thanks Taly

Hi

[Guest guest]

There is a stool test that can check to see what would work to treat your childs yeast. Not sure what the name is but it shows what that yeast is resistant too.

We use the Custom Probiotic that has 6 strains in it. Many ASD kids use the one that is lactate free. Not sure if your child has a lactate issue. They are expensive but very high CFU's, work well and last a long time.

Subject: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDNTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 12:14 PM

Hi , Our son was on Diflucan for approx 8 weeks, after 6 weeks we tested for yeast and he still had high levels of arabinose yeast in his urine. Our DAN has mentioned doing biofilm if the nizoral that he is currently on does not take care of yeast. This is why we are concerned about doing the antibiotic, and increased yeast.My son is currently on Therbiotic complete 25bil twice a day and also on Kirkman Lactobisilius Duo 25bil twice a day. We asked him about custom probiotics (we just heard of them) but he does not stoke custom probiotic and said I would just have to go to their website and choose one (he was not much help). Would you mind letting me know which custom probiotic you use?Thanks and sorry to not post right away I am doing it while on work.ThanksTaly > > > > Subject: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN> To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:06 AM> > > Â > > > > Good Morning,> > My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats

test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.> > My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because

we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.> > If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks > > Taly>

[Guest guest]

LDN can increase yeast. Natural antifungals helped us, kirkman yeast aid, olive

leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics coconut kefir, custom

probiotics. We use the brain child anticandida herbs, one dropper three times a

day, and you rotate them (I think there are 4). I also have cut his juice in

1/2 with water and limited intake. We have seen improvement with no sugar

except stevia and/or xylitol and low carb diet. I have been told I needed to

reduce his sugar and tried but failed several times. It is working now and it

has been a big gain for us. We are on LDN, Diflucan, valtrex among other

things. Any more specific ?'s feel free to email me. Takce care-

(:Judy

>

> Good Morning,

>

> My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he

has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin,

diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My

son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed

improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back

negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on

azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore

off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we

just started.

>

> My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know

we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on

antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were

scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait

for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under

control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a

couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not

taken care off.

>

> If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Taly

>

[Guest guest]

valtrex and OLE both increase yeast as well, for us LDN was what finally KICKED the yeast beast and stopped the years of cycling of trying to whoop it! one day of diflucan (which he had been on weeks rounds of it before but when going off it would come right back) and then LDN and we were FINALLY able to go off diflucan and it NOT COME BACK!!!! we were so thrilled. LDN was a life saver here in restoring immune health with long term results even when LDN was discontinued. there are so many naturals that can be done to fight yeast (I would also look at the nystatine having been problematic in starting a flare- it's strep based and we just went through that here) we also watch diet, cook with coconut and oregano a lot, garlic like crazy, LOVE kirkmans yeast aid, carprilic acid, biotin ect

From: jujugirl1971

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

LDN can increase yeast. Natural antifungals helped us, kirkman yeast aid, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics coconut kefir, custom probiotics. We use the brain child anticandida herbs, one dropper three times a day, and you rotate them (I think there are 4). I also have cut his juice in 1/2 with water and limited intake. We have seen improvement with no sugar except stevia and/or xylitol and low carb diet. I have been told I needed to reduce his sugar and tried but failed several times. It is working now and it has been a big gain for us. We are on LDN, Diflucan, valtrex among other things. Any more specific ?'s feel free to email me. Takce care-(:Judy>> Good Morning,> > My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.> > My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.> > If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks > > Taly>

[Guest guest]

I thought OLE was a yeast fighter?To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 10:38:08 AMSubject: Re: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

valtrex and OLE both increase yeast as well, for us LDN was what finally KICKED the yeast beast and stopped the years of cycling of trying to whoop it! one day of diflucan (which he had been on weeks rounds of it before but when going off it would come right back) and then LDN and we were FINALLY able to go off diflucan and it NOT COME BACK!!!! we were so thrilled. LDN was a life saver here in restoring immune health with long term results even when LDN was discontinued. there are so many naturals that can be done to fight yeast (I would also look at the nystatine having been problematic in starting a flare- it's strep based and we just went through that here) we also watch diet, cook with coconut and oregano a lot, garlic like crazy, LOVE kirkmans yeast aid, carprilic acid, biotin ect

From: jujugirl1971

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

LDN can increase yeast. Natural antifungals helped us, kirkman yeast aid, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics coconut kefir, custom probiotics. We use the brain child anticandida herbs, one dropper three times a day, and you rotate them (I think there are 4). I also have cut his juice in 1/2 with water and limited intake. We have seen improvement with no sugar except stevia and/or xylitol and low carb diet. I have been told I needed to reduce his sugar and tried but failed several times. It is working now and it has been a big gain for us. We are on LDN, Diflucan, valtrex among other things. Any more specific ?'s feel free to email me. Takce care-(:Judy>> Good Morning,> > My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.> > My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.> > If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks > > Taly>

[Guest guest]

it has stronger antibiotic and antiviral properties both which will flare yeast issues to be worse

From: l h

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:43 AM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

I thought OLE was a yeast fighter?

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 10:38:08 AMSubject: Re: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

valtrex and OLE both increase yeast as well, for us LDN was what finally KICKED the yeast beast and stopped the years of cycling of trying to whoop it! one day of diflucan (which he had been on weeks rounds of it before but when going off it would come right back) and then LDN and we were FINALLY able to go off diflucan and it NOT COME BACK!!!! we were so thrilled. LDN was a life saver here in restoring immune health with long term results even when LDN was discontinued. there are so many naturals that can be done to fight yeast (I would also look at the nystatine having been problematic in starting a flare- it's strep based and we just went through that here) we also watch diet, cook with coconut and oregano a lot, garlic like crazy, LOVE kirkmans yeast aid, carprilic acid, biotin ect

From: jujugirl1971

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:45 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast, Antibiotics(Pandas) and LDN

LDN can increase yeast. Natural antifungals helped us, kirkman yeast aid, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, and probiotics coconut kefir, custom probiotics. We use the brain child anticandida herbs, one dropper three times a day, and you rotate them (I think there are 4). I also have cut his juice in 1/2 with water and limited intake. We have seen improvement with no sugar except stevia and/or xylitol and low carb diet. I have been told I needed to reduce his sugar and tried but failed several times. It is working now and it has been a big gain for us. We are on LDN, Diflucan, valtrex among other things. Any more specific ?'s feel free to email me. Takce care-(:Judy>> Good Morning,> > My son has yeast issues. We have done 2 oats test in the last 7 months and he has come back with high arabinose yeast on both test. He has been on nystatin, diflucan, sporanox and now on nizoral. The nizoral was started a month ago. My son got pneumonia in December and he got better from pneumonia and also noticed improved symptoms for his autism. Tested for strep (pandas) and test came back negative, after antibiotic wore off my son regressed. Put him back on azithromax and again we saw gains and he then regressed after antibiotic wore off. Because of this our DAN doctor put him on azithromax once a week, which we just started.> > My wife and I are concerned because we still feel he has yeast issues and know we added antibiotic which can obviously cause yeast to worsen. We put him on antibiotic this past Thursday for a 5 day course and then once a week. We were scheduled to test his yeast this week (oats test) but our DAN now wants to wait for 6 weeks. Again we are concerned because we don't know if yeast is under control and feel in fact it is not. We are also scheduled to add LDN within a couple of weeks. Can our kids have adverse reaction to LDN if yeast is not taken care off.> > If any one has any ideas or experiences and would share it would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks > > Taly>