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J/J,

Here's my 2 cents....as long as you know what it's worth! The headache is likely a side effect of the Norvasc and will subside as your body adjusts to the drug. I don't think that your bp being elevated is necessarily a sign that your ipf is progressing at least not directly. However, it could be a sign that your heart is stressed and your heart could be stressed because of the difficulty of getting the blood through your lungs. What bothers me more than the blood pressure is a pulse rate of 140 while your sats are 93. That's a high pulse rate. Is that during exertion or resting? If it's resting that's very fast and could be cause for concern.

Joe I'm glad you're being re-evaluated soon. Are they going to do an echocardiogram? I would ask them to check for pulmonary hypertension as it's an almost inevitible development at some point with this disease and without treatment is dangerous. Please ask about it.

Beth

Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Change everything. Love and Forgive

JOE & JOANIE

DEAR GROUP,

JOE STARTED ON NORVASC TODAY FOR HIS BLOOD PRESSURE AND I WONDERED IF ANYONE ELSE IS ON THIS DRUG ALSO...HE HAD A TERRIBLE HEADACHE AND THE PHARMACIST TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE DIZZY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS. ALSO I WONDER IF THE RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE IS A "SIGN" THAT IPF IS GETTING WORSE BECAUSE HE USED TO BE 110/80 AND NOW AT REST HE IS 155/110, AND WITH EXERTION AFTER 1-2 MINUTES IT REALLY JUMPS UP THERE. HIS PULSE RATE STAYS AROUND 140 WHEN OXIMETER READS 93 WHILE OFF HIS OXYGEN. ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED, HIS NEXT APPOINTMENT AND REASSESSMENT IS JUNE 27 AT EMORY SO HE IS RECORDING BLOOD PRESSURE , PULSE, O2, ETC FOR THE DR. TO REVIEW.

JOANIE

    JOE/JOANIE JOE 60 IPF1/2008

GRIFFIN, GA.

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Adding my penny to MB's two cents. I second, third, fourth and a million

MB's emphasis on an echocardiogram.

And, I repeat and will continue to do so even if I sound like a broken

record (well, my first crusade was oximeters and we've made huge

progress there) that ECHOCARDIOGRAMS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PFT's and

CT's TO PF'ers. Again, the reason I say that is that the watch for PH

and right side hard damage is crucial and not detectable just by how you

feel. Don't let PH do you in before your lungs do. If an echo indicates

a potential issue then it will be followed by a catheter. But if you are

developing PH you must get treatment. Tracleer (Bosentan) and Revatio

are often used. Ask Joyce what kind of lifesaver Flolan is. And there

are others. The echocardiogram can warn you. The catheter can detect.

PFT's help the doctor track but tell you nothing you don't already know.

CT's the same except why take unnecessary x-rays. Your sats and sob and

how you feel tell you what the PFT and CT confirm. But echocardiograms

save lives. Now I'm not saying not to have PFT's or CT's (although more

than once a year for CT's probably serves no purpose). I am saying you

should have echocardiograms at least once a year and I personally will

never go more than six months without one.

>

> J/J,

> Here's my 2 cents....as long as you know what it's worth! The headache

is likely a side effect of the Norvasc and will subside as your body

adjusts to the drug. I don't think that your bp being elevated is

necessarily a sign that your ipf is progressing at least not

directly. However, it could be a sign that your heart is

stressed and your heart could be stressed because of the difficulty

of getting the blood through your lungs. What bothers me more

than the blood pressure is a pulse rate of 140 while your sats

are 93. That's a high pulse rate. Is that during exertion or resting? If

it's resting that's very fast and could be cause for concern.

> Joe I'm glad you're being re-evaluated soon. Are they going to do an

echocardiogram? I would ask them to check for pulmonary hypertension as

it's an almost inevitible development at some point with this disease

and without treatment is dangerous. Please ask about it.

>

> Â BethÂ

> Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

> Â

> Change everything. Love and Forgive  Â

> Â

> Â

>

>

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> JOE & JOANIE

>

>

> DEAR GROUP,

> JOE STARTED ON NORVASC TODAY FOR HIS BLOOD PRESSURE AND I WONDERED IF

ANYONE ELSE IS ON THIS DRUG ALSO...HE HAD A TERRIBLE HEADACHE AND THE

PHARMACIST TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE DIZZY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS.Â

ALSO I WONDER IF THE RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE IS A " SIGN " THAT IPF IS

GETTING WORSE BECAUSE HE USED TO BE 110/80 AND NOW AT REST HE IS

155/110, AND WITH EXERTION AFTER 1-2 MINUTES IT REALLY JUMPS UP

THERE. HIS PULSE RATE STAYS AROUND 140 WHEN OXIMETER READS 93 WHILE

OFF HIS OXYGEN. ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED, HIS NEXT

APPOINTMENT AND REASSESSMENT IS JUNE 27 AT EMORY SO HE IS RECORDING

BLOOD PRESSURE , PULSE, O2, ETC FOR THE DR. TO REVIEW.

> JOANIE

>     JOE/JOANIE

> JOEÂ 60 IPF1/2008

> GRIFFIN, GA.

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Hypertension is one of the side effects of Prednisone, is he on it?

Geeta

-- In Breathe-Support , " JOE & JOANIE LAMENSKIE "

wrote:

>

> DEAR GROUP,

> JOE STARTED ON NORVASC TODAY FOR HIS BLOOD PRESSURE AND I WONDERED

IF ANYONE

> ELSE IS ON THIS DRUG ALSO...HE HAD A TERRIBLE HEADACHE AND THE

PHARMACIST

> TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE DIZZY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS. ALSO I

WONDER IF

> THE RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE IS A " SIGN " THAT IPF IS GETTING WORSE

BECAUSE HE

> USED TO BE 110/80 AND NOW AT REST HE IS 155/110, AND WITH EXERTION

AFTER 1-2

> MINUTES IT REALLY JUMPS UP THERE. HIS PULSE RATE STAYS AROUND 140

WHEN

> OXIMETER READS 93 WHILE OFF HIS OXYGEN. ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE

APPRECIATED,

> HIS NEXT APPOINTMENT AND REASSESSMENT IS JUNE 27 AT EMORY SO HE IS

RECORDING

> BLOOD PRESSURE , PULSE, O2, ETC FOR THE DR. TO REVIEW.

> JOANIE

>     JOE/JOANIE

> JOE 60 IPF1/2008

> GRIFFIN, GA.

>

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Gita,

Joe has been off prednisone for a couple of months now. He did have an echocardiagram in January and it was normal. Bruce was kind enough to respond also and suggested an echo...we continue to monitor Blood pressure, pulse and O2 and are writing it down on a chart for doc to see 6/27. We also have a PF support group meeting at Emory on the 19th so he will be able to ask about the high pulse rate then also. Will keep everyone posted, thanks for the reply..

    JOE/JOANIE JOE 60 IPF1/2008

GRIFFIN, GA.

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Hypertension is one of the side effects of Prednisone, is he on it?Geeta-- In Breathe-Support , "JOE & JOANIE LAMENSKIE" wrote:>> DEAR GROUP,> JOE STARTED ON NORVASC TODAY FOR HIS BLOOD PRESSURE AND I WONDERED IF ANYONE> ELSE IS ON THIS DRUG ALSO...HE HAD A TERRIBLE HEADACHE AND THE PHARMACIST> TOLD HIM HE WOULD BE DIZZY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS. ALSO I WONDER IF> THE RISE IN BLOOD PRESSURE IS A "SIGN" THAT IPF IS GETTING WORSE BECAUSE HE> USED TO BE 110/80 AND NOW AT REST HE IS 155/110, AND WITH EXERTION AFTER 1-2> MINUTES IT REALLY JUMPS UP THERE. HIS PULSE RATE STAYS AROUND 140 WHEN> OXIMETER READS 93 WHILE OFF HIS OXYGEN. ANY THOUGHTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED,> HIS NEXT APPOINTMENT AND REASSESSMENT IS JUNE 27 AT EMORY SO HE IS RECORDING> BLOOD PRESSURE , PULSE, O2, ETC FOR THE DR. TO REVIEW.> JOANIE>     JOE/JOANIE > JOE 60 IPF1/2008> GRIFFIN, GA.>

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Hi Jane,

Last week we had bad weather....severe thunderstorms, lightning, rain

and a tornado touched down, 2 hours from were I live. Further from us

they had hail. This week it seems the weather is doing better, but it's

pretty cold though. Irene

> Hey!

>

> Did y'all have the bad weather? I think up here in Dalton, we were

> lucky today because it went south of us. Hope y'all are doing well

> today.

>

> Toodles!

>

> Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl

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