Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Well I just got back from the grocery store. I stocked up on veggies and tomatoes .... and sugar free jello... I already have light meats and salmon. I've been eating veggies and salmon stuff for a while at night.. One question... for veggies can they be frozen veggies?? Never read if there is a difference. "L.S" wrote: Well just as a heads up chances are you’ll get the SB flu as many of us here call it…usually around day 3-4 where you feel like your sick with the flu…some people get it very mild other not at all and other really get hit with it….I got 2 days of not feeling right with a mild headache so I would say mine was mild….and then I felt actually the best I have felt in years after that and still do….sooo congrats on wanting to make this a new WOE(way of eating) and just ask questions along the way and make sure you check the group files for the updated food lists…there are a few new things added…wooooooo hoooooooo…lol Licienne Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr. Seuss From: South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right [mailto:South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right ] On Behalf Of SebatoPowerSent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 11:20 AMTo: South-Beach-Diet-Getting-It-Right Subject: New Member Hi all My name is . I am just now starting South Beach Diet. I am reading the book and will start it tomorrow... I tried Atkins about a year ago and lasted until lunch..I had a bad headache by then. But this one I think is a lot better. I enjoy eating veggies and I eat eggs for breakfast now... and also I eat lean meats and salmon mostly at night... I'm going to the store this afternoon to get my first weeks stuff. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 , Your process sounds very wise to me. I think tuning into yourself and noticing without judgement that you current path you are on isn't working ideally, but also noticing that your attempts at IE in the past didn't work is great. I love how you practice non-judgement with yourself. I really " hear " you about not losing weight with IE, because I have PCOS and thus presumably also have insulin resistance. I am not obese but am a little bit overweight and certainly well over the healthy weight I maintained for years before I suddenly & mysteriously developed PCOS. I think your idea to work on eating mindfully as a way to start again, slowly, with IE sounds great. I also suggest speaking with a nutritionist who is well versed in IE as well as diabetes management -- I'm sure they have lots of tools in their arsenal. And take baby steps, and use us for lots of support! You sound very wise and I look forward to learning more from you. Best, Abby welcome to the group . Thank you for sharing your story. I have found this group to be a very supportive place to share & learn. mj > > Hi, new member here. I am 55, married and living on a truck. I am not new to IE, I practiced it in the past, when I first read the books in the 1990’s. Lots of Geneen Roth too. Currently I am reading the Zen of Eating, love the book, One Bowl and have a few other mindful eating type books at home that are waiting for the next run. > > I firmly believe the concepts of these books are the key to getting in touch with ourselves, our relationship to food and maintaining a normal and comfortable weight without obsessing about it. However, all I ever could do was maintain my weight, even when severely obese. The concept of being intune with ones body’s cues and eating mindfully will bring the body back to it’s natural weight may work for those with a small amount of weight to lose, but it never happened for me. Perhaps my eating was geared towards a heavier body and my intuition kept me eating just enough to maintain? I do not know. > > I went on a diet when both my husband and I went through some major life changes. I had gained... > Why I am here, is that I attempted to do IE last September when I hit my 1 year anniversary with dieting. It just did not come easy to me and the weight was coming back on because I desired foods that shot my blood glucose readings to the roof. I went back on my diet mid October and the loss is coming again and the blood glucose readings are back in a better range for me. This is my longstanding problem with IE, is that I can find balance and peace with eating, but I cannot return to a normal weight, nor stay obese for health reasons. I went IE for 2 years in the 1990’s and my weigh dropped naturally down about 25 pounds (then completely stopped) because I no longer binged. But that does not work for my overall obesity. Yes, I do know that it is not a weightloss method, but I believe the body does know what it needs and we have only to carefully listen. > > I had thought I could go back to IE once I had secured enough of a loss to get mobile again. I ... > I am pondering the wisdom of changing what is working for me when I realize that perhaps I am not ready to let go of the control and certainty the diet has provided. I have decided for now, to stay within the framework of my diet until I have reached my normal weight and practice mindfulness eating what I can eat as I go along. I have been waiting for hunger before eating, learning the different degrees of hunger, smelling, tasting, observing the meal before eating, eating slowly and practicing gratitude for having a meal to nourish my body. It’s a shift in the right direction and hopefully through meditation and continuing to learn the lessons I need to know, I will slip further away from a numbers based diet into intuitive and mindful eating. I am however, not there yet. > > Any suggestions welcome. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Thanks, Abigail for the response. In the past (30 years of dieting and bingeing) I saw my problems with eating and weight as an all inclusive issue. It was the problem that linked to other problems. I felt I had to solve that main problem before others could be tackled. So I stayed locked in a very unhappy and very difficult mindset. I am attempting to break free of that mindset. I found comfort yesterday after I wrote my post when I read that the middle path is the best in all things. So I saw IE as part of the path, but not the only answer. I think the black and white thinking that weight obsession brings keeps me locked in the mindset that there is only one answer or solution. I wanted IE or mindful eating to BE that one-and-only path, but I had to remember that it only solved part of my problem years ago when I practiced it. Had I done this when younger or when excess weight was not a health issue, I may have not needed more. Today, with diabetes, with age, with 30 years of angst and stress, I am not going to find one path is the only one to take. In fact, I am not sure that there can be only one answer to any problem. Finding a good balance takes many balancing points and not just a single point where a single feather could make it all out of balance again. My fears that switching from a set and known diet at midpoint to exclusively IE is worthy of considering the possible consequences. What has happened before? The core of my journey this time is to stay aware of the truths involved. From: Abigail Wolfson Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:27 PM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: New Member , Your process sounds very wise to me. I think tuning into yourself and noticing without judgement that you current path you are on isn't working ideally, but also noticing that your attempts at IE in the past didn't work is great. I love how you practice non-judgement with yourself. I really "hear" you about not losing weight with IE, because I have PCOS and thus presumably also have insulin resistance. I am not obese but am a little bit overweight and certainly well over the healthy weight I maintained for years before I suddenly & mysteriously developed PCOS. I think your idea to work on eating mindfully as a way to start again, slowly, with IE sounds great. I also suggest speaking with a nutritionist who is well versed in IE as well as diabetes management -- I'm sure they have lots of tools in their arsenal. And take baby steps, and use us for lots of support! You sound very wise and I look forward to learning more from you. Best,Abby welcome to the group . Thank you for sharing your story. I have found this group to be a very supportive place to share & learn.mj>> Hi, new member here. I am 55, married and living on a truck. I am not new to IE, I practiced it in the past, when I first read the books in the 1990’s. Lots of Geneen Roth too. Currently I am reading the Zen of Eating, love the book, One Bowl and have a few other mindful eating type books at home that are waiting for the next run. > > I firmly believe the concepts of these books are the key to getting in touch with ourselves, our relationship to food and maintaining a normal and comfortable weight without obsessing about it. However, all I ever could do was maintain my weight, even when severely obese. The concept of being intune with ones body’s cues and eating mindfully will bring the body back to it’s natural weight may work for those with a small amount of weight to lose, but it never happened for me. Perhaps my eating was geared towards a heavier body and my intuition kept me eating just enough to maintain? I do not know. > > I went on a diet when both my husband and I went through some major life changes. I had gained...> Why I am here, is that I attempted to do IE last September when I hit my 1 year anniversary with dieting. It just did not come easy to me and the weight was coming back on because I desired foods that shot my blood glucose readings to the roof. I went back on my diet mid October and the loss is coming again and the blood glucose readings are back in a better range for me. This is my longstanding problem with IE, is that I can find balance and peace with eating, but I cannot return to a normal weight, nor stay obese for health reasons. I went IE for 2 years in the 1990’s and my weigh dropped naturally down about 25 pounds (then completely stopped) because I no longer binged. But that does not work for my overall obesity. Yes, I do know that it is not a weightloss method, but I believe the body does know what it needs and we have only to carefully listen. > > I had thought I could go back to IE once I had secured enough of a loss to get mobile again. I ...> I am pondering the wisdom of changing what is working for me when I realize that perhaps I am not ready to let go of the control and certainty the diet has provided. I have decided for now, to stay within the framework of my diet until I have reached my normal weight and practice mindfulness eating what I can eat as I go along. I have been waiting for hunger before eating, learning the different degrees of hunger, smelling, tasting, observing the meal before eating, eating slowly and practicing gratitude for having a meal to nourish my body. It’s a shift in the right direction and hopefully through meditation and continuing to learn the lessons I need to know, I will slip further away from a numbers based diet into intuitive and mindful eating. I am however, not there yet.> > Any suggestions welcome.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hi There,Like you said the damage is done and the past is just that. You can not go back and undo anything. The point of eating intuitively is to not feel deprived or to restrict your self in any way. So if you start to pay attention to what your body wants it will be very different then what your mind wants to eat. And if you are really paying attention to your physical body and using food for fuel and not for numbing, emotional reasons your body will automatically return to your ideal weight. It is very easy to confuse physical hunger with emotional hunger. By making the decision to never deprive yourself or never "diet" again if you are paying close attention when your body is truly physically hungry you may find you are craving really "healthy nutritious foods" instead of all the crap we have stuffed ourselves with in the past. Have you ever binged and when all the dust from the powdered sugar settles you have said to your self that was soooooo good. I really enjoyed that. NEVER!!!!! The minute you tell yourself you can't have something how badly do you want it.??? If you are able to see all foods as just food and not as a good or bad or bad food and if you really give yourself permission to eat what ever you want when ever you want. As long as you are eating because your physically hungry and stop when comfortable.You will learn this when you are paying close attention to the way different foods and amounts feel after you have eaten them. YTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Sat, December 18, 2010 9:41:06 PMSubject: New Member Hi everyone, I'm Jen and I just joined today. I've struggled with my weight since I was 12 and always been on some sort of restricted diet (WW, low-carb, etc). I'm 35 now with a 3 year old son. I'm so glad to have read the Intuitive Eating book as well as Geneen Roth's book about emotional eating. I've been on IE for about 3 weeks now. I like it very much. But...I'm stuck with a couple things. 1. I'm not eating super healthy b/c I'm eating what I want. So fruits and vegetables are really minimal. Do you guys think i will eventually get to a point where i crave healthier foods? 2. One thing I struggle with understanding in IE is say a person gained some weight (or is overweight) and yet they never went on a restricted typical diet. How would IE say to help that person lose weight if they actually never were on a diet? I feel like so much of the plan is geared around un-doing damage that a diet did. But what then? What happens when the diet damage is done? Is it just mindful eating and trying to not overeat or eat for emotional reasons that helps people lose weight? thanks!! Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Hi Everyone, My name is ...and hmm, what to say to introduce myself! I'm 50, and I'd say I started struggling with my relationship to food in my early to mid thirties. I found some help in my late thirties in OA, and for a while that worked well for me. I'm still very grateful to OA for vastly enhancing my spiritual and emotional lives. However, over time it just didn't seem to be working well for me - I was never sure if it was because I didn't throw myself into it at 100% in various ways, or because it just wasn't the right fit. In any case, a couple months ago I read Geneen Roth's new book, and it reminded me of things I'd read in what I think was her very first book, many years ago. I then picked that one back up too. I decided I wanted to really try eating when I'm hungry, stopping when I'm satisfied, not eating for emotional reasons, etc. I love the idea of learning to trust my body. For a couple weeks I had a little honeymoon with it and was so excited. I felt in tune with my body, wasn't overeating, wasn't denying myself anything...and then, wham. I'm not sure what happened, but for the last month or so I have been really struggling. For one thing, I am THINKING way too much for my liking, about food. Second, I'm eating way more sugar and white flour than feels good for my body, but can't seem to stop making those choices even when I know they're " mind " choices not " body " choices. I'm not judging myself for eating " bad " foods - it's that I truly don't feel these are loving choices for my body. Sugar usually makes me feel tired and logy, and also from a healthy place in my mind (as opposed to the obsessing about what I think I should look like or what others think), I DON'T want to gain more weight. I'm about 20 pounds overweight and it's not about the looks, it's that I like the energy I feel and my joy in movement, when I am lighter. And yet I can't seem to stop...so now I'm a little worried that maybe I do need to go with OA's model of addiction (which I never really went with completely, even in OA - as I was one of those rare birds who did allow some sugar in my food plan, and never restricted white flour at all). Yet I really love the idea of IE if I could believe it can work for me. I'm wondering a little about combining the best of both programs, but somehow that feels a little mind boggling. I could go on and on but this has already been long. I'm hoping to find support on this board, and offer it too when I have it to offer! I'm a little fearful of joining because I tend to have time for online activity in spurts...I'll have a couple weeks with more time, then very little, then back again... But I figure I'll just do my best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi -I don't know anything about " OA " or what it is. Can you fill us in?- Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thanks for the welcome, Katcha! And for the encouragement to post as much as I can, even if it tests my comfort level. That's exactly what I find helpful, gentle challenging along with support. I found that even just by joining this group and posting, I made choices I feel better about, today than yesterday. By writing I reminded myself of why I've chosen to try it to begin with - I want my relationship with food to be about making loving choices for my self (which for me doesn't mean choosing healthy food ALL the time but does mean choosing it MUCH of the time), and not be about deprivation, etc. I have many virtues but patience has never been one of them :-) (I'm working on it!) I need to remember that I am an infant on this journey! > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > My name is ...and hmm, what to say to introduce myself! > > > > I'm 50, and I'd say I started struggling with my relationship to food in my early to mid thirties. I found some help in my late thirties in OA, and for a while that worked well for me. I'm still very grateful to OA for vastly enhancing my spiritual and emotional lives. > > > > However, over time it just didn't seem to be working well for me - I was never sure if it was because I didn't throw myself into it at 100% in various ways, or because it just wasn't the right fit. > > > > In any case, a couple months ago I read Geneen Roth's new book, and it reminded me of things I'd read in what I think was her very first book, many years ago. I then picked that one back up too. I decided I wanted to really try eating when I'm hungry, stopping when I'm satisfied, not eating for emotional reasons, etc. I love the idea of learning to trust my body. > > > > For a couple weeks I had a little honeymoon with it and was so excited. I felt in tune with my body, wasn't overeating, wasn't denying myself anything...and then, wham. I'm not sure what happened, but for the last month or so I have been really struggling. For one thing, I am THINKING way too much for my liking, about food. Second, I'm eating way more sugar and white flour than feels good for my body, but can't seem to stop making those choices even when I know they're " mind " choices not " body " choices. > > > > I'm not judging myself for eating " bad " foods - it's that I truly don't feel these are loving choices for my body. Sugar usually makes me feel tired and logy, and also from a healthy place in my mind (as opposed to the obsessing about what I think I should look like or what others think), I DON'T want to gain more weight. I'm about 20 pounds overweight and it's not about the looks, it's that I like the energy I feel and my joy in movement, when I am lighter. And yet I can't seem to stop...so now I'm a little worried that maybe I do need to go with OA's model of addiction (which I never really went with completely, even in OA - as I was one of those rare birds who did allow some sugar in my food plan, and never restricted white flour at all). Yet I really love the idea of IE if I could believe it can work for me. I'm wondering a little about combining the best of both programs, but somehow that feels a little mind boggling. > > > > I could go on and on but this has already been long. I'm hoping to find support on this board, and offer it too when I have it to offer! I'm a little fearful of joining because I tend to have time for online activity in spurts...I'll have a couple weeks with more time, then very little, then back again... But I figure I'll just do my best! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Sorry, Casey, it stands for Overeaters Anonymous. Let me know if you want to know more. Best, > > Hi - > > I don't know anything about " OA " or what it is. Can you fill us in? > > - Casey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Casey, OA is Overeaters Anonymous. If memory serves, its an open self help group meeting which builds on a (good/bad type) food list too. Lots of support, but still with restriction, control, and weight loss etc. as goals. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Hi - > > I don't know anything about " OA " or what it is. Can you fill us in? > > - Casey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks, that's very helpful (especially Katcha's brief description). While I've been " IEing " (love that term Katcha!) for nearly 2 years now I still have a lot to do in the areas of rejecting the diet mentality and giving myself permission to eat anything (the food police are my constant companions) to heal my relationship with my food and my body, so I find any idea of restriction such as what you have described in OA to be very frightening. I find it hard to believe that the two could every work together, but I don't know anything except what you have told me! P.S. Does anyone else find yourselves speaking in IE terms and using the principles as verbs like that? I constantly, at least in my journal writing and inner dialog, repeat the principles to myself and pepper my sentences with them. Just curious if any of you have this " affliction! " Sorry, Casey, it stands for Overeaters Anonymous. Let me know if you want to know more. Best, > > Hi - > > I don't know anything about " OA " or what it is. Can you fill us in? > > - Casey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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