Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Old habits die hard. We've lived with all that stuff for so long that it is almost an automatic response. I have to also be aware of even my thoughts about others and myself. My friend whom I have been going out with for about 10 years used to give me his daily(2x week when we see each other) report on how he over ate and what his weight was, down to the tenths of a pound. And how he just didn't eat for one day and his weight was back down. He is one of those rare people who can do that, and he walks every day. He used the battery on one of his scales! I was trying to find a way to ask him to not give me the report because I would let it get to me. He got a new computer and has plenty of other stuff to talk about. I don't think anyone knows how insiduous( can't spell this word and have lost my dictionary) any of this is and what a negative impact it can have on any of us. Great that you noticed it in yourself. That's the only way to change our thoughts or actions, by noticing first. Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness typical " diet " rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being " bad " when eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer " fat, " etc. But, recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how everyone must have had a very " indulgent " weekend. I will sometimes say similar things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine it's a way to " fit in, " to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 oh... and this one... I think is pretty relevant too http://www.axisoffat.com/2011/01/friends-and-sundry.htmlFrom: J. Sommerkorn To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 2:29:20 PMSubject: Re: Selling Out? Casey, Yes, I think this is a very typical reaction once you have gotten off the diet treadmill, it feels like you have taken the "blue pill" and everyone is still asleep. Its crazy making for sure. I blogged about this on my blog, feel free to catch up on my experience and the comments I think you will find them relevant.http://www.axisoffat.com/2010/10/note-to-women-please-think-about-something-other-than-dieting-to-talk-about.htmlFrom: Casey Anne To: Intuitive Eating Group <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 12:32:11 PMSubject: Selling Out? Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness typical "diet" rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being "bad" when eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer "fat," etc. But, recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how everyone must have had a very "indulgent" weekend. I will sometimes say similar things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine it's a way to "fit in," to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 I'm afraid I don't see what's wrong with the identifier words though. Fat, obese or thin, skinny, are just words to describe what you are talking about to someoen youw ant to understand it. To me it's no different than saying red head or blonde, white or black. It is what it is and I tend to get offended more by overly political correctness than honesty. Don't get me wrong, fat and bitch don't go together just because you're made at someone, and I don't like it when I find myself watching someone else's weight go up or down like I used to do. But just as describer words, I don't see a problem, but I've never been really thin skinned either, that's just me. Sunny Selling Out? Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness typical "diet" rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being "bad" when eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer "fat," etc. But, recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how everyone must have had a very "indulgent" weekend. I will sometimes say similar things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine it's a way to "fit in," to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Oh boy, can I relate to what everyone is saying around the diet mentality. There seems to be the idea that it is only women that talk about diets and their bodies and how much weight they've lost etc. But I am here to tell you that it can be men also. My boss (a male) is doing the Atkins - AGAIN! Every year he goes on the Atkins, not eating any carbs and counting all carbs including those in lettuce and sugarless gum! And this monday he came and touted about how he had lost another 2 pounds. And I get triggered every year he goes on this friggin' diet! And my rebel comes out and I carb overload! I probably eat his share of carbs for him! And then all of my bad thoughts start creeping in - thoughts of how fat I am, how bloated I feel, that I'm lazy, that I'm not good enough - ENOUGH ALREADY! In reality it is him that has the complex - NOT ME! He is the one that doesn't like himself so he has to go on this self-abusing diet - a diet that as soon as he goes off of it, he gains the weight back plus some. And in the meantime he makes all those around him miserable because he is so cranky to be around! We are so on the right path with IE! Lets keep plugging away and keep supporting eachother. Thank goodness for this group and all the support it gives and also to all the IE authors out there. Alana (thanks for letting me vent - It's been one heck of day dealing with this moron of a boss!) > > Casey, > > Yes, I think this is a very typical reaction once you have gotten off the diet > treadmill, it feels like you have taken the " blue pill " and everyone is still > asleep. Its crazy making for sure. I blogged about this on my blog, feel free > to catch up on my experience and the comments I think you will find them > relevant. > > http://www.axisoffat.com/2010/10/note-to-women-please-think-about-something-othe\ r-than-dieting-to-talk-about.html > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Intuitive Eating Group <IntuitiveEating_Support > > Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 12:32:11 PM > Subject: Selling Out? > > > Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness > typical " diet " rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being " bad " when > eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer " fat, " etc. But, > recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. > For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which > is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how > everyone must have had a very " indulgent " weekend. I will sometimes say similar > things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine > it's a way to " fit in, " to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with > one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself > doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 I am blessed to not be surrounded by people who diet so much. But I used to be. I actually hide some of my friends comments on facebook because they talk about it alot. I know that my besties hubby diets alot but I don't have to hear about it all the time. I know it must be torture to hear about it all the time. Just keep on remembering that we are doing the right thing by no longer abusing our bodies. Be blessed, Dawn To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 7:52:48 PMSubject: Re: Selling Out? Oh boy, can I relate to what everyone is saying around the diet mentality. There seems to be the idea that it is only women that talk about diets and their bodies and how much weight they've lost etc. But I am here to tell you that it can be men also.My boss (a male) is doing the Atkins - AGAIN! Every year he goes on the Atkins, not eating any carbs and counting all carbs including those in lettuce and sugarless gum! And this monday he came and touted about how he had lost another 2 pounds. And I get triggered every year he goes on this friggin' diet! And my rebel comes out and I carb overload! I probably eat his share of carbs for him! And then all of my bad thoughts start creeping in - thoughts of how fat I am, how bloated I feel, that I'm lazy, that I'm not good enough - ENOUGH ALREADY! In reality it is him that has the complex - NOT ME! He is the one that doesn't like himself so he has to go on this self-abusing diet - a diet that as soon as he goes off of it, he gains the weight back plus some. And in the meantime he makes all those around him miserable because he is so cranky to be around!We are so on the right path with IE! Lets keep plugging away and keep supporting eachother. Thank goodness for this group and all the support it gives and also to all the IE authors out there.Alana(thanks for letting me vent - It's been one heck of day dealing with this moron of a boss!)>> Casey,> > Yes, I think this is a very typical reaction once you have gotten off the diet > treadmill, it feels like you have taken the "blue pill" and everyone is still > asleep. Its crazy making for sure. I blogged about this on my blog, feel free > to catch up on my experience and the comments I think you will find them > relevant.> > http://www.axisoffat.com/2010/10/note-to-women-please-think-about-something-other-than-dieting-to-talk-about.html> > > > > > > ________________________________> > To: Intuitive Eating Group <IntuitiveEating_Support >> Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 12:32:11 PM> Subject: Selling Out?> > > Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness > typical "diet" rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being "bad" when > eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer "fat," etc. But, > recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. > For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which > is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how > everyone must have had a very "indulgent" weekend. I will sometimes say similar > things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine > it's a way to "fit in," to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with > one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself > doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 Alana is it possible to reframe this in your mind--I USED TO eat my boss's share of carbs. I USED TO respond emotionally to his diet. He's following unhealthy patterns just like I USED TO... so hard to cut new neurons, like forging a new path for a river hugs Foggy > > > > Casey, > > > > Yes, I think this is a very typical reaction once you have gotten off the diet > > treadmill, it feels like you have taken the " blue pill " and everyone is still > > asleep. Its crazy making for sure. I blogged about this on my blog, feel free > > to catch up on my experience and the comments I think you will find them > > relevant. > > > > http://www.axisoffat.com/2010/10/note-to-women-please-think-about-something-othe\ r-than-dieting-to-talk-about.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Casey Anne <ruddenca@> > > To: Intuitive Eating Group <IntuitiveEating_Support > > > Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 12:32:11 PM > > Subject: Selling Out? > > > > > > Regularly I find myself getting very angry or annoyed when I read or witness > > typical " diet " rhetoric in the world, e.g. women joking about being " bad " when > > eating a food considered unhealthy, people using the describer " fat, " etc. But, > > recently I've noticed myself buying in to this when speaking with other people. > > For example, today I was joking with a girl in our office's fitness room, which > > is usually doesn't get much use but was especially busy today, about how > > everyone must have had a very " indulgent " weekend. I will sometimes say similar > > things that I find objectionable, and wonder why I do this. I can only imagine > > it's a way to " fit in, " to buy in to the methods we all use to communicate with > > one another. But I can't help but feel like a sell out whenever I catch myself > > doing this. Have any of you noticed yourselves doing things like thisr? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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