Guest guest Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hi I read some of the recent posts on this topic, but still wanted to start a new thread. I haven't been here in a while, but the last week or two have been brimming up with thoughts. My daughter is now 18 months old. I was so terrified of repeating the traumatic experience of the mother/daughter relationship of my past. I have had therapy and I really pay attention to myself and to her, and we're doing great I'm happy to say!!! My partner says that I'm a great mom, but that it takes a toll on me. It's like someone who is afraid of heights walking next to a cliff. I can walk there and be safe, but part of me never believes that I won't fall off, so I'm on constant alert. It's exhausting. But it's also really thrilling, to feel the love for my daughter, and to feel her love for me, that was never there when I was growing up. I whisper to her " mommy loves you " and kiss her head, and it feels almost as if I'm getting that wonderful mother-love too. I'm mothering us both:-) It is a constant trigger, and it is really upsetting to realize just how 'easy' it is. Just like other people said - how hard is it really, to give a little love and reassurance to a child? It isn't! And it hurts so much to realize again and again that my mother wasn't capable of it. Something so natural and simple and she just couldn't do it. I also am faced with constant reminders of things she did. I take my daughter to Parent/Child classes, music, gym, etc... and am so proud of her every time she does anything well. And then I remember how my mother not only wasn't proud of me, but actively took me away from things I did well at. I won a scholarship, and she never told me about it, I heard about it from friends. I was good at gymnastics and the coach was really interested in my continuing, and then suddenly I didn't get to go to classes anymore. I played violin, and my mother told me not to play in front of our relatives who we visited when I was 8, because I wasn't good enough. (I was 8!!!!) Well that's her loss. Because feeling proud of my daughter is a wonderful feeling! I just glowed with pride when the teacher complimented my baby on her musicality. I know it has nothing to do with me, she's 18 months old. But I still feel so happy and proud of my fantastic kid! My heart was just brimming over! And I started playing the piano again. This one is a real trigger. I have my old music books, and as I play a piece I played well as a teenager, I suddenly feel all the feelings of being that depressed teenager again. I was an angry suicidal kid. And playing the music hits me right in the chest. I started crying. But it's healing. I can feel this pain now, and let it go. I can recognize it and let it go, I don't have to keep it. It's in the past, I don't have to carry it around with me. The music really puts me right there so I can work through the feeling directly. Anyway - these are my thoughts on healing. Being a mom, playing old music, they are triggers, they bring up painful memories and feelings. But they are giving me the opportunity to recognize the pain that I carry and let it go for good. Lighten my heart to be the person I was born to be. -Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 beautiful! playing piano is also a trigger id like to try that one > > > Hi > > I read some of the recent posts on this topic, but still wanted to start a > new thread. I haven't been here in a while, but the last week or two have > been brimming up with thoughts. > > My daughter is now 18 months old. I was so terrified of repeating the > traumatic experience of the mother/daughter relationship of my past. I have > had therapy and I really pay attention to myself and to her, and we're doing > great I'm happy to say!!! > > My partner says that I'm a great mom, but that it takes a toll on me. It's > like someone who is afraid of heights walking next to a cliff. I can walk > there and be safe, but part of me never believes that I won't fall off, so > I'm on constant alert. It's exhausting. But it's also really thrilling, to > feel the love for my daughter, and to feel her love for me, that was never > there when I was growing up. I whisper to her " mommy loves you " and kiss her > head, and it feels almost as if I'm getting that wonderful mother-love too. > I'm mothering us both:-) > > It is a constant trigger, and it is really upsetting to realize just how > 'easy' it is. Just like other people said - how hard is it really, to give a > little love and reassurance to a child? It isn't! And it hurts so much to > realize again and again that my mother wasn't capable of it. Something so > natural and simple and she just couldn't do it. > > I also am faced with constant reminders of things she did. I take my > daughter to Parent/Child classes, music, gym, etc... and am so proud of her > every time she does anything well. And then I remember how my mother not > only wasn't proud of me, but actively took me away from things I did well > at. I won a scholarship, and she never told me about it, I heard about it > from friends. I was good at gymnastics and the coach was really interested > in my continuing, and then suddenly I didn't get to go to classes anymore. I > played violin, and my mother told me not to play in front of our relatives > who we visited when I was 8, because I wasn't good enough. (I was 8!!!!) > > Well that's her loss. Because feeling proud of my daughter is a wonderful > feeling! I just glowed with pride when the teacher complimented my baby on > her musicality. I know it has nothing to do with me, she's 18 months old. > But I still feel so happy and proud of my fantastic kid! My heart was just > brimming over! > > And I started playing the piano again. This one is a real trigger. I have > my old music books, and as I play a piece I played well as a teenager, I > suddenly feel all the feelings of being that depressed teenager again. I was > an angry suicidal kid. And playing the music hits me right in the chest. I > started crying. But it's healing. I can feel this pain now, and let it go. I > can recognize it and let it go, I don't have to keep it. It's in the past, I > don't have to carry it around with me. The music really puts me right there > so I can work through the feeling directly. > > Anyway - these are my thoughts on healing. Being a mom, playing old music, > they are triggers, they bring up painful memories and feelings. But they are > giving me the opportunity to recognize the pain that I carry and let it go > for good. Lighten my heart to be the person I was born to be. > > -Terri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Thank you for sharing these experiences of becoming a mother and, how the daily interactions with your child can be both triggering and healing. I think that is awesome, Terri, and others of you who post here, that you are such caring, concerned, nurturing and wonderfully NORMAL mothers in spite of the substandard and even toxic parenting you received. More than one of you young mothers has noted how surprisingly *easy* it is to be kind, gentle, empathetic and comforting to a tiny child, and even to an older child, and how gratifying those small moments of just being overwhelmed with tenderness toward your little one and receiving their love in return, are; how magical that is. To me, that throws a giant searchlight beam on how *severely abnormal* our nadas' emotional cognition and emotional responses were toward their children. Even without the overt physical violence that gets noticed and reported, our mothers were damaging us badly. Instead of tenderness and empathy, we got resentment or hostility. Instead of encouragement we got shame or jealousy. Instead of comfort, we got neglect. Instead of guidance, we got rage. Instead of protection, we were blamed or exploited. The stark contrast between the parenting that the KOs here received themselves as children, and what they are now giving as parents to their own children, is immense. I so badly wish that the American Psychiatric Association and the hard science researchers in neurology would interview the children of the mentally ill and follow families for generations, so that they might be able to discover more quickly the causes of personality disorder and mental illness, because it seems the causes are so damned complex. Its apparently *not* just due to bad parenting (overly harsh/punitive, overly indulgent/spoiling, negligent/rejecting, or exploitative/sexual abuse) and its *not* just due to inherent temperamental factors, and its *not* just due to some kind of faulty wiring in the emotional parts of the brain, it seems to be more of the " recipe from hell " combination of all those factors, seems to me. -Annie > > Hi > > I read some of the recent posts on this topic, but still wanted to start a new thread. I haven't been here in a while, but the last week or two have been brimming up with thoughts. > > My daughter is now 18 months old. I was so terrified of repeating the traumatic experience of the mother/daughter relationship of my past. I have had therapy and I really pay attention to myself and to her, and we're doing great I'm happy to say!!! > > My partner says that I'm a great mom, but that it takes a toll on me. It's like someone who is afraid of heights walking next to a cliff. I can walk there and be safe, but part of me never believes that I won't fall off, so I'm on constant alert. It's exhausting. But it's also really thrilling, to feel the love for my daughter, and to feel her love for me, that was never there when I was growing up. I whisper to her " mommy loves you " and kiss her head, and it feels almost as if I'm getting that wonderful mother-love too. I'm mothering us both:-) > > It is a constant trigger, and it is really upsetting to realize just how 'easy' it is. Just like other people said - how hard is it really, to give a little love and reassurance to a child? It isn't! And it hurts so much to realize again and again that my mother wasn't capable of it. Something so natural and simple and she just couldn't do it. > > I also am faced with constant reminders of things she did. I take my daughter to Parent/Child classes, music, gym, etc... and am so proud of her every time she does anything well. And then I remember how my mother not only wasn't proud of me, but actively took me away from things I did well at. I won a scholarship, and she never told me about it, I heard about it from friends. I was good at gymnastics and the coach was really interested in my continuing, and then suddenly I didn't get to go to classes anymore. I played violin, and my mother told me not to play in front of our relatives who we visited when I was 8, because I wasn't good enough. (I was 8!!!!) > > Well that's her loss. Because feeling proud of my daughter is a wonderful feeling! I just glowed with pride when the teacher complimented my baby on her musicality. I know it has nothing to do with me, she's 18 months old. But I still feel so happy and proud of my fantastic kid! My heart was just brimming over! > > And I started playing the piano again. This one is a real trigger. I have my old music books, and as I play a piece I played well as a teenager, I suddenly feel all the feelings of being that depressed teenager again. I was an angry suicidal kid. And playing the music hits me right in the chest. I started crying. But it's healing. I can feel this pain now, and let it go. I can recognize it and let it go, I don't have to keep it. It's in the past, I don't have to carry it around with me. The music really puts me right there so I can work through the feeling directly. > > Anyway - these are my thoughts on healing. Being a mom, playing old music, they are triggers, they bring up painful memories and feelings. But they are giving me the opportunity to recognize the pain that I carry and let it go for good. Lighten my heart to be the person I was born to be. > > -Terri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hi everyone, this is my first post here. I have been reading for the past couple of weeks and have to say I am so heartened to hear that some of you with mom's like mine have gone on to be such wonderful parents yourselves. That is something I very much want to do, but am so afraid of. Terri, your email below, especially the part about being good at something and having your mom take it away from you, really struck me. I also played the violin and was told I couldn't practice at home because she didn't want to hear me screeching until I was good enough. So sad now, to think about. Thank you all for being brave enough to write; it is so helpful to me. I hope to share more with you. Best, Keller > > > Hi > > I read some of the recent posts on this topic, but still wanted to start a > new thread. I haven't been here in a while, but the last week or two have > been brimming up with thoughts. > > My daughter is now 18 months old. I was so terrified of repeating the > traumatic experience of the mother/daughter relationship of my past. I have > had therapy and I really pay attention to myself and to her, and we're doing > great I'm happy to say!!! > > My partner says that I'm a great mom, but that it takes a toll on me. It's > like someone who is afraid of heights walking next to a cliff. I can walk > there and be safe, but part of me never believes that I won't fall off, so > I'm on constant alert. It's exhausting. But it's also really thrilling, to > feel the love for my daughter, and to feel her love for me, that was never > there when I was growing up. I whisper to her " mommy loves you " and kiss her > head, and it feels almost as if I'm getting that wonderful mother-love too. > I'm mothering us both:-) > > It is a constant trigger, and it is really upsetting to realize just how > 'easy' it is. Just like other people said - how hard is it really, to give a > little love and reassurance to a child? It isn't! And it hurts so much to > realize again and again that my mother wasn't capable of it. Something so > natural and simple and she just couldn't do it. > > I also am faced with constant reminders of things she did. I take my > daughter to Parent/Child classes, music, gym, etc... and am so proud of her > every time she does anything well. And then I remember how my mother not > only wasn't proud of me, but actively took me away from things I did well > at. I won a scholarship, and she never told me about it, I heard about it > from friends. I was good at gymnastics and the coach was really interested > in my continuing, and then suddenly I didn't get to go to classes anymore. I > played violin, and my mother told me not to play in front of our relatives > who we visited when I was 8, because I wasn't good enough. (I was 8!!!!) > > Well that's her loss. Because feeling proud of my daughter is a wonderful > feeling! I just glowed with pride when the teacher complimented my baby on > her musicality. I know it has nothing to do with me, she's 18 months old. > But I still feel so happy and proud of my fantastic kid! My heart was just > brimming over! > > And I started playing the piano again. This one is a real trigger. I have > my old music books, and as I play a piece I played well as a teenager, I > suddenly feel all the feelings of being that depressed teenager again. I was > an angry suicidal kid. And playing the music hits me right in the chest. I > started crying. But it's healing. I can feel this pain now, and let it go. I > can recognize it and let it go, I don't have to keep it. It's in the past, I > don't have to carry it around with me. The music really puts me right there > so I can work through the feeling directly. > > Anyway - these are my thoughts on healing. Being a mom, playing old music, > they are triggers, they bring up painful memories and feelings. But they are > giving me the opportunity to recognize the pain that I carry and let it go > for good. Lighten my heart to be the person I was born to be. > > -Terri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 The whole concept of having kids was a giant trigger for me. It took me a long time in therapy to get it through my head that I was NOT going to be just like my mother, that I am worthy of love and worthy of being happy. My kids are now 7 and 4. I look at them and get really emotional when I think of all the shit my mother put me through. Thinking, WTF at most of it. Simple little things. When I was 9 I wanted to go to a sleepover, and it turned into my being selfish and wanting her dead (to which of course there was the dramatic knife held over the wrists episode). Now, its a JOY to have my daughter have friends over for sleepovers, doing normal girly things. When I was her age, actually by 5 I was making myself meals, being a latch key kid while she worked/partied etc and I put myself to bed. I see all the things my kids have, that I never had, and I get pissed off. Simple things. Like being proud of me. I " existed " as a child, I did not thrive or grow. I did all that when I left home at 17. My NPD father has NEVER once asked me about the business I run, its a growing, thriving, self sustaining business that allows me to work from home and spend more time with my kids. It's pretty damn cool to take a work break and do two puzzles with my 4 year old. Anyway, I completely understand where you are coming from. We are good moms BECAUSE we are aware of what love is and how to love someone else. Even now, when my 7yo tells me that I'm the " best mom in the world " I wonder if she's just saying that to be nice. LOL! I have my faults but I hope that she turns out to be an awesome kid. It sure as hell won't be because of my parents, but because I cared enough to make sure patterns were not repeated. > > Hi > > I read some of the recent posts on this topic, but still wanted to start a new thread. I haven't been here in a while, but the last week or two have been brimming up with thoughts. > > My daughter is now 18 months old. I was so terrified of repeating the traumatic experience of the mother/daughter relationship of my past. I have had therapy and I really pay attention to myself and to her, and we're doing great I'm happy to say!!! > > My partner says that I'm a great mom, but that it takes a toll on me. It's like someone who is afraid of heights walking next to a cliff. I can walk there and be safe, but part of me never believes that I won't fall off, so I'm on constant alert. It's exhausting. But it's also really thrilling, to feel the love for my daughter, and to feel her love for me, that was never there when I was growing up. I whisper to her " mommy loves you " and kiss her head, and it feels almost as if I'm getting that wonderful mother-love too. I'm mothering us both:-) > > It is a constant trigger, and it is really upsetting to realize just how 'easy' it is. Just like other people said - how hard is it really, to give a little love and reassurance to a child? It isn't! And it hurts so much to realize again and again that my mother wasn't capable of it. Something so natural and simple and she just couldn't do it. > > I also am faced with constant reminders of things she did. I take my daughter to Parent/Child classes, music, gym, etc... and am so proud of her every time she does anything well. And then I remember how my mother not only wasn't proud of me, but actively took me away from things I did well at. I won a scholarship, and she never told me about it, I heard about it from friends. I was good at gymnastics and the coach was really interested in my continuing, and then suddenly I didn't get to go to classes anymore. I played violin, and my mother told me not to play in front of our relatives who we visited when I was 8, because I wasn't good enough. (I was 8!!!!) > > Well that's her loss. Because feeling proud of my daughter is a wonderful feeling! I just glowed with pride when the teacher complimented my baby on her musicality. I know it has nothing to do with me, she's 18 months old. But I still feel so happy and proud of my fantastic kid! My heart was just brimming over! > > And I started playing the piano again. This one is a real trigger. I have my old music books, and as I play a piece I played well as a teenager, I suddenly feel all the feelings of being that depressed teenager again. I was an angry suicidal kid. And playing the music hits me right in the chest. I started crying. But it's healing. I can feel this pain now, and let it go. I can recognize it and let it go, I don't have to keep it. It's in the past, I don't have to carry it around with me. The music really puts me right there so I can work through the feeling directly. > > Anyway - these are my thoughts on healing. Being a mom, playing old music, they are triggers, they bring up painful memories and feelings. But they are giving me the opportunity to recognize the pain that I carry and let it go for good. Lighten my heart to be the person I was born to be. > > -Terri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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