Re: Confused about latest stool test results

[Guest guest]

Bumping for no replies. Anyone?

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> We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year olds. Our

5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least 3 when we

first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more recently.

>

> So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come back

totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is colonizing all

good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has NO opportunistic

bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad for this, it means

we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to deal with. And

both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing lately, BUT we

still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning to think we may

still be contending with viral problems, but we have never actually done any

viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to consider doing so. Can

anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's really expensive, because

I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

>

> This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

>

> So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed motor

skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We currently

give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still reacting to his

antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool test) he has

die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this happen, if he

doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of reaction? Oh

and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet causes

something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing off

the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was thinking

he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE, ten days

into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the chicken pox

which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately, the MMR and

varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then what I know

now!

>

> The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once when he was

one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things including

various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed a red rash

on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did the test

which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot that

didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect the

Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

>

> Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we don't have

to go in circles, lol.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some titers you need to get are EBV (Epstein-Barr) HVV6 (Herpes 6--causes

cea) and CMV (Cytomegalovirus) also Herpes I,II. You want the IgM's and the

IgG's to these viruses.

My son never broke out in the cea rash but he has had it circulating in his

body for a while--prob a couple years. 95% of the world has IgG's to this virus

(antibodies!) but MY son has too many IgM's, meaning that the body is FIGHTING &

FIGHTING and getting NO where!!

Hope this helps!

> >

> > We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year olds.

Our 5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least 3

when we first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more recently.

> >

> > So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come back

totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is colonizing all

good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has NO opportunistic

bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad for this, it means

we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to deal with. And

both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing lately, BUT we

still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning to think we may

still be contending with viral problems, but we have never actually done any

viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to consider doing so. Can

anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's really expensive, because

I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

> >

> > This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

> >

> > So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed motor

skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We currently

give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still reacting to his

antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool test) he has

die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this happen, if he

doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of reaction? Oh

and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet causes

something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing off

the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was thinking

he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE, ten days

into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the chicken pox

which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately, the MMR and

varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then what I know

now!

> >

> > The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once when he

was one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things

including various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed

a red rash on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did

the test which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot

that didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect

the Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

> >

> > Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we don't

have to go in circles, lol.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, yes, that IS helpful. I assume we should also look at those that he

had vaccines to, right?

> > >

> > > We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year olds.

Our 5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least 3

when we first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more recently.

> > >

> > > So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come back

totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is colonizing all

good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has NO opportunistic

bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad for this, it means

we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to deal with. And

both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing lately, BUT we

still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning to think we may

still be contending with viral problems, but we have never actually done any

viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to consider doing so. Can

anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's really expensive, because

I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

> > >

> > > This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

> > >

> > > So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed motor

skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We currently

give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still reacting to his

antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool test) he has

die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this happen, if he

doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of reaction? Oh

and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet causes

something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing off

the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was thinking

he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE, ten days

into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the chicken pox

which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately, the MMR and

varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then what I know

now!

> > >

> > > The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once when he

was one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things

including various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed

a red rash on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did

the test which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot

that didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect

the Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we don't

have to go in circles, lol.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Roseola is what you're thinking of.

> > >

> > > We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year olds.

Our 5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least 3

when we first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more recently.

> > >

> > > So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come back

totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is colonizing all

good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has NO opportunistic

bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad for this, it means

we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to deal with. And

both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing lately, BUT we

still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning to think we may

still be contending with viral problems, but we have never actually done any

viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to consider doing so. Can

anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's really expensive, because

I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

> > >

> > > This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

> > >

> > > So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed motor

skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We currently

give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still reacting to his

antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool test) he has

die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this happen, if he

doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of reaction? Oh

and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet causes

something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing off

the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was thinking

he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE, ten days

into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the chicken pox

which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately, the MMR and

varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then what I know

now!

> > >

> > > The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once when he

was one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things

including various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed

a red rash on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did

the test which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot

that didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect

the Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we don't

have to go in circles, lol.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son did have Roseola, which virus is that? Is that a separate titer?

> > > >

> > > > We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year

olds. Our 5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least

3 when we first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more

recently.

> > > >

> > > > So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come back

totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is colonizing all

good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has NO opportunistic

bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad for this, it means

we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to deal with. And

both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing lately, BUT we

still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning to think we may

still be contending with viral problems, but we have never actually done any

viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to consider doing so. Can

anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's really expensive, because

I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

> > > >

> > > > This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

> > > >

> > > > So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed

motor skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We

currently give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still

reacting to his antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool

test) he has die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this

happen, if he doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of

reaction? Oh and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet

causes something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing

off the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was

thinking he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE,

ten days into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the

chicken pox which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately,

the MMR and varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then

what I know now!

> > > >

> > > > The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once when

he was one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things

including various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed

a red rash on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did

the test which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot

that didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect

the Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we don't

have to go in circles, lol.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

that's Herpes 6 again! From what I've read 90% of ASD kids test positive for

this as a low-grade infection!! My son did!

> > > > >

> > > > > We recently did the Metametrix DNA stool test with our 2 and 5 year

olds. Our 5 year old had battled with Clostridia and yeast since he was at least

3 when we first knew to test him with an OAT and another stool test more

recently.

> > > > >

> > > > > So you would think it would be good news to have a stool test come

back totally clear of everything!! But instead, I am confused. He is

colonizing all good bacteria (not all high, but it's there none the less), has

NO opportunistic bacteria, NO yeast and NO parasites!! So yes, I am very glad

for this, it means we totally eradicated the Clostridia which was a NASTY bug to

deal with. And both my husband and I have commented on how well he's been doing

lately, BUT we still have some weird things happening with him and I beginning

to think we may still be contending with viral problems, but we have never

actually done any viral titer testing. I think this may be a good time to

consider doing so. Can anyone tell me what titers to have pulled and if it's

really expensive, because I am sure our insurance won't cover it.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what we are still noticing with him: he is getting sick more

frequently than he used to (although he fights them pretty fast), when he gets a

virus his sensory stuff comes back and what I thought was a yeast symptom

(swatting at his ears and head) may not even be a yeast sign. He also gets

wildly moody when he's sick. His moods are much better than they used to be, but

we are still seeing an occasional low frustration threshold and we are waiting

for the results of a handwriting evaluation, because he seems to struggle with

writing, although he loves to read and " write " books and cards. He just gets

frustrated with himself. About two years ago when this all started, we had him

evaluated and he had delayed fine motor skills.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I guess I don't know, if some of this is (aside from the delayed

motor skills) normal or not and if we should be addressing virals more. We

currently give him 500mg of OLE two to three times a day. He's also still

reacting to his antimicrobials, meaning, if we go off them (like for the stool

test) he has die-off of some sort when going back on them. Why would this

happen, if he doesn't have yeast or bacteria, can virals cause that same sort of

reaction? Oh and I tried to add Monolaurin in a few times and even one pellet

causes something, die-off or mood swings. Reminds me of when we started killing

off the Clostridia. He did have the MMR and varicela vaccinations so I was

thinking he could have a measles or rubella infection. When we started the OLE,

ten days into using it, he broke out in a rash all over his trunk, like the

chicken pox which is how he also reacted to his vaccinations. Unfortunately,

the MMR and varicela were given at the same time....I know, if only I knew then

what I know now!

> > > > >

> > > > > The other thing I am considering here is Lyme. He was tested once

when he was one and reacted to his 12 month vaccinations with a month of things

including various rashes and fevers, his eyelid swelled up, etc. I had noticed

a red rash on his head (he's VERY blonde, so it was hard to miss) so they did

the test which was negative. The rash wasn't a bullseye, just a round red spot

that didn't stick around long. Should we reconsider this route? I would expect

the Lyme bacteria to react to his antimicrobials which are GSE, OoO and OLE.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry for the long message, trying not to leave anything out so we

don't have to go in circles, lol.

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