Re: doctors

[Guest guest]

There are a lot of doctor's who need to read their oaths again! I went to a

doctor when kylie was small for a horrible cold/bronchitis

something......anyway my normal gp was off so I had to see one of his

partners. She would not give me anything for the cough because she felt that

colds were caught because you didn't keep clean and were not hygenic

therefore, it was my own fault I was sick and didn't merit treatment. I then

asked her for a renewal on my bcontrol pill that my gp had me on for

irregular periods and she said she would have nothing to do with prescribing

those because she was catholic and didn't believe in birth control. She

didn't care that I wasn't using it for that, it was still birth

control.....She was pregnant at the time too!!! Oh, some people!!! It still

amazes me that some people think every one should think alike and have all

the same beliefs.......a basic common ground is wonderful but if not for the

other differenced, this world would be very boring............

Zanna

[Guest guest]

> Anyone want to share how they deal with doctors?

> Apri

I have a tendency to steer clear of doctors. But I know that's not really

healthy. The only doctor I see right now is very low key, very nice, very

respectful that I'm the ultimate decision-maker on my healthcare. I would

definitely recommend getting a more respectful doctor if at all possible.

Otherwise, I can think of 2 routes to go. You can simply lay down boundaries.

I simply tell doctors, that in the end, dieting always results in my having a

higher weight than ever, that I'm committed to non-dieting, and I would like to

focus on the other available options for my treatment/prevention.

Or you could go farther in educating your doctor. Maybe write down some

statistics from some great books out there, like THE DIET MYTH. Ask her for

research showing that maintaining weight loss long term effects breast cancer.

(Of course, no such research exists, as there aren't enough people who maintain

weight loss long-term to study in any meaningful way.)

Regardless, remember you are the boss of your own healthcare, not her. You have

a better understanding of the results of dieting than she obviously does. Be

confident, and give youself a little love and some kind thoughts and words

before you go in to see any doctor.

Sara

[Guest guest]

I have found that the bulk of the medical profession is definitely stuck in DIET

MENTALITY. Even a couple of nurse practioners who I've seen listen to what I've

said about IE, but I can tell by the look on their faces (one actually smirked!)

that they won't 'believe it until they see 'results'.

I am of my own opinion that the push towards THIN THIN THIN is WRONG WRONG

WRONG. It seems obvious to me that a 'thin' body has NO RESERVES with which to

fight any challenge to it. Yes, that 'reserve' need not be so overwhelming that

it becomes a source of 'challenge' (extra pressure, unbalanced body chemistry

etc.) itself. However I do believe that if one could look beneath any 'weight'

related studies you would find funding from a diet related industry. I recently

heard a respected doctor who practices out of a teaching hospital say that older

patients with HIGH cholesterol live longer than those with low numbers. I can

well believe that - we knew a woman in her mid 90s who was thin as a whip but

had high cholesterol numbers - she live to 102. My own grandmothers always had

'matronly' figures and to 89 and 102. My mother fought her weight all her life

and died at 54. Go figure.

Sorry to have soap boxed on ya'll, but doctor visits & weight grind my teeth! If

you haven't already read these, go to the FILES link at this group site and look

in the IE and doctor visits section. There you will find - Health at every size

(give me Queen Latifha over Angelina Jolie anyday!), Letter to Doctor.doc, &

Questions to ask when looking for an IE friendly doctor.doc . You need and

deserve medical professionals that support YOU. Medicine is a SERVICE, not a

religion ;-)

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hi, all.

> I just got chewed out this afternoon by my doctor about being fat. She's

> an oncologist - I had breast cancer two years ago - and she went on about

> how I have to go on a diet because if I don't I will get cancer again and

> die. She's well intentioned, if emotionally insensitive, and I tried not to

> let it get to me, but I came home and felt awful. I didn't want to explain

> to her all my eating issues and what I'm trying to do with IE because I'm

> certain she wouldn't understand.

> Anyone want to share how they deal with doctors?

> April

>

[Guest guest]

I too marvel at how stable my weight has been in the last couple of years (I

gained a lot of weight during my pregnancy before that). I'm thrilled with

that. I'm very happy for you on your good labs, too!

Sara

>

> PS - Sara, like you I am about the same weight now as when I began IE.

>

[Guest guest]

April, I had an experience with my doctor last year, I went in for headaches and he told me I as overweight and he was "concerned" about my health. Ok, now dude, you look like a big Dr.Phil and your assistant is not much smaller... who the heck ARE YOU to tell me to lose weight?I responded by saying, "Well Doctor, since all diets fail 99% of the time and medical science has yet to recommend a way of keeping off the weight which is successful... how do you intend that I do that? It is like you are telling me to fix a condition for which there is no cure and in fact studies have shown higher rates of BMI to actually be protective and until BMI gets unto above 35 (if that person is exersizing) then weight does not influence mortality

vs. a "normal" BMI mortality when controlled for every other factor. In fact, a heavier person who is exersizing has a higher mortality than a non exersizing normal or under weighted person. Doctor, would you like me to site my research sources so you can take a look as well?"He... he shut up. For your oncologist I would point out that an overweight BMI is protective to not only keeping some cancers at bay but also increases the survivability of a person who is ill. If lose weight and relapse you could have actually done yourself a disservice. There are plenty of studies out there which are just as rigorous making this claim. I would suggest she read up on them.I usually just out-data them. They are used to sheep, fearful sheep. Sorry this happened to you... want me to beat her up? :)JennaTo: intuitiveeating_support Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 6:29:28 PMSubject: doctors

Hi, all.

I just got chewed out this afternoon by my doctor about being fat. She's an oncologist - I had breast cancer two years ago - and she went on about how I have to go on a diet because if I don't I will get cancer again and die. She's well intentioned, if emotionally insensitive, and I tried not to let it get to me, but I came home and felt awful. I didn't want to explain to her all my eating issues and what I'm trying to do with IE because I'm certain she wouldn't understand.

Anyone want to share how they deal with doctors?

April

[Guest guest]

Hey, Jenna,

You could beat her up with one of your strong poems! Thanks so much! I will go armed with data and with the spirit of so many in this community like you who have come out fighting!

April

April, I had an experience with my doctor last year, I went in for headaches and he told me I as overweight and he was "concerned" about my health. Ok, now dude, you look like a big Dr.Phil and your assistant is not much smaller... who the heck ARE YOU to tell me to lose weight?I responded by saying, "Well Doctor, since all diets fail 99% of the time and medical science has yet to recommend a way of keeping off the weight which is successful... how do you intend that I do that? It is like you are telling me to fix a condition for which there is no cure and in fact studies have shown higher rates of BMI to actually be protective and until BMI gets unto above 35 (if that person is exersizing) then weight does not influence mortality vs. a "normal" BMI mortality when controlled for every other factor. In fact, a heavier person who is exersizing has a higher mortality than a non exersizing normal or under weighted person. Doctor, would you like me to site my research sources so you can take a look as well?"He... he shut up. For your oncologist I would point out that an overweight BMI is protective to not only keeping some cancers at bay but also increases the survivability of a person who is ill. If lose weight and relapse you could have actually done yourself a disservice. There are plenty of studies out there which are just as rigorous making this claim. I would suggest she read up on them.I usually just out-data them. They are used to sheep, fearful sheep. Sorry this happened to you... want me to beat her up? :)Jenna

To: intuitiveeating_support Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 6:29:28 PMSubject: doctors

Hi, all.

I just got chewed out this afternoon by my doctor about being fat. She's an oncologist - I had breast cancer two years ago - and she went on about how I have to go on a diet because if I don't I will get cancer again and die. She's well intentioned, if emotionally insensitive, and I tried not to let it get to me, but I came home and felt awful. I didn't want to explain to her all my eating issues and what I'm trying to do with IE because I'm certain she wouldn't understand.

Anyone want to share how they deal with doctors?

April