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Mine is allergic to carrots too! Boy, I never hear of any others with this!!Don't know if he has parasites. He did used to have sleepless nights leading up to the full moon before we did flagyl but flagyl seemed to have eliminated the all nighters around the full moon... Parasites?Sent from my iPhone

Yes yes and again, yes!!! this is the biggest thing on all my son's tests. He has three different parasites. (which our CDSA did not find, only a specialist found them, so I encourage everyone to question results that come back negative.) He has pretty much zero secretory IgA as well, so many low level food allergies, all, in my opinion, caused by parasites. We are still waiting for our test results after treatment, to see where we stand, but he is doing SO great. I'm so going to look into the vitamin A thing too, so thank you for posting this!!

Oh, and my son is allergic to carrots, nasty bugs don't want me giving him any LOL!!!

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> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

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> Chewing

> Nose Picking

> Tactile issues

> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> VERBAL STIMMING

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> I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

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> Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

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> So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

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> Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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Wow , I had no idea the sodium balance could impact his allergies. I will try syntol and candex. We use culturelle. Very interesting information. Thanks. Yet another reason to buy that juicer!Sent from my iPhone

Maddie was allergic to carrots, potatoes, bananas, corn, peas, all forms of grains, (there is A LOT MORE) etc. (I mean, stupid allergies) - it got to the point it was easier to list what she could have vs what she couldn't. At her Mother's Day out program, I sent EVERYTHING she ate.

The two things that I found that took ALL her allergies away were:

Syntol w/Candex and Culturelle (I did aggressive for a month and a half) and now she gets one Syntol before bed.

And Juicing. For the 'allergenic' things - like carrots, I found that 'nutrient' equal that she wasn't allergic too, and juiced that.

So, for carrots, I did pears/fennel/pineapple,celery,asparagus -- this helps get the natural sodium/potassium levels to good serum levels and in the correct ratio. Because when the body is sodium deficient, they become allergic to everything. (or when the serum levels are too low to maintain proper electrolyte balance.

I found by figuring out this stuff, the allergies were gone. Her rashes from allergies was so bad, that they bled and stuck to her PJ's. If you could see her skin now, you wouldn't believe it's the same child.

laura :)

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> > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> >

> > Chewing

> > Nose Picking

> > Tactile issues

> > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > VERBAL STIMMING

> >

> > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

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> > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> >

> > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> >

> > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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Super! The book appears to be out of print. Website looks interesting.Sent from my iPhone

I forgot to add - here is a website...that might be able to help. The info was in the book, I'm not sure if it's on the site.

http://www.bodyandsoulreconnection.com/food-allergies-can-be-reversed/

Either way, it's a great reference book, and something to do while you wait for your doctor to respond... :) laura

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> > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > > >

> > > > Chewing

> > > > Nose Picking

> > > > Tactile issues

> > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > > >

> > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

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> > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > > >

> > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

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> > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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What are you treating with? Thanks.

Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

Yes yes and again, yes!!! this is the biggest thing on all my son's tests. He has three different parasites. (which our CDSA did not find, only a specialist found them, so I encourage everyone to question results that come back negative.) He has pretty much zero secretory IgA as well, so many low level food allergies, all, in my opinion, caused by parasites. We are still waiting for our test results after treatment, to see where we stand, but he is doing SO great. I'm so going to look into the vitamin A thing too, so thank you for posting this!!

Oh, and my son is allergic to carrots, nasty bugs don't want me giving him any LOL!!!

>

> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

>

> Chewing

> Nose Picking

> Tactile issues

> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> VERBAL STIMMING

>

> I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

>

> Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

>

> So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

>

> Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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Caryn, We had a really nice response to High vit A both times we did it. The second time was actually better because we were on OLE. The first time it was fantastic until maintenence and he had a short pandas flair, or something akin to it.Sent from my iPhone

I have been considering trying the high dose A on my unvaccinated for son for a similiar reason. I have heard it is good at treating strep. My son is a PANDAS kid. I have also been looking into the possibility that the strep lives inside worms within the body. My son has greatly improved on augmentin for strep. We are now treating worms and he potty trained within 24 hours (had previously been time-trained) and is sleeping through the night again.

I will probably try high dose A during spring break and will report what I find.

Caryn

>

> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

>

> Chewing

> Nose Picking

> Tactile issues

> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> VERBAL STIMMING

>

> I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

>

> Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

>

> So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

>

> Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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I wish I could find a copy but it seems to be out of print. So glad you reference it. Thanks, Sent from my iPhone

A lot of the info I get is from "The Ultimate Healing System" by LePore..

me health food store lady gave me her copy - its a wealth of info. I have used it with great success. (she saw Maddies rashes and went to her stash to see if she could help. one by one all the rashes went away.)

laura :)

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> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > >

> > > Chewing

> > > Nose Picking

> > > Tactile issues

> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > >

> > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > >

> > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > >

> > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > >

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So do you use high dose vitamin A even if you are using other anti virals, like Valtrex?To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 6:38:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and

Parasites...

Caryn, We had a really nice response to High vit A both times we did it. The second time was actually better because we were on OLE. The first time it was fantastic until maintenence and he had a short pandas flair, or something akin to it.Sent from my iPhone

I have been considering trying the high dose A on my unvaccinated for son for a similiar reason. I have heard it is good at treating strep. My son is a PANDAS kid. I have also been looking into the possibility that the strep lives inside worms within the body. My son has greatly improved on augmentin for strep. We are now treating worms and he potty trained within 24 hours (had previously been time-trained) and is sleeping through the night again.

I will probably try high dose A during spring break and will report what I find.

Caryn

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> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

>

> Chewing

> Nose Picking

> Tactile issues

> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> VERBAL STIMMING

>

> I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

>

> Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

>

> So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

>

> Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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www.abebooks.com is where you can find older and out of print books (I think most of them are used). I've ordered lots of books from this site and have never had a problem.

A lot of the info I get is from "The Ultimate Healing System" by LePore..

me health food store lady gave me her copy - its a wealth of info. I have used it with great success. (she saw Maddies rashes and went to her stash to see if she could help. one by one all the rashes went away.)

laura :)

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> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > >

> > > Chewing

> > > Nose Picking

> > > Tactile issues

> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > >

> > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > >

> > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > >

> > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > >

> >

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What is the problem? This book is NOT out of print???http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Healing-System-Illustrated-Nutrition/dp/1885670087/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1297993035 & sr=1-1

 

A lot of the info I get is from " The Ultimate Healing System " by LePore..

me health food store lady gave me her copy - its a wealth of info. I have used it with great success. (she saw Maddies rashes and went to her stash to see if she could help. one by one all the rashes went away.)

laura :)

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> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > >

> > > Chewing

> > > Nose Picking

> > > Tactile issues

> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > >

> > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > >

> > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > >

> > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > >

> >

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you can still have titers to something you weren't vaccinated for, if mom has a cronic case of measels it will be shared with baby via blood.....my middle has titers for mumps and contracted it from vaccinated brother through bathing together

called cross immunity

From: Caryn_Reid

Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:43 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I have been considering trying the high dose A on my unvaccinated for son for a similiar reason. I have heard it is good at treating strep. My son is a PANDAS kid. I have also been looking into the possibility that the strep lives inside worms within the body. My son has greatly improved on augmentin for strep. We are now treating worms and he potty trained within 24 hours (had previously been time-trained) and is sleeping through the night again.I will probably try high dose A during spring break and will report what I find.Caryn>> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > Chewing> Nose Picking> Tactile issues> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> VERBAL STIMMING> > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?>

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fats in stools are commonly linked to low pancreatic enzymes.....low IGA is from the gut lining being slothed away, meaning leaky gut. vit A is for measels and not meant for any other treatment, it's high dose to address it, otherwise it will be toxic. you can still have measles issues with out having the vaccination. first off you can have titers from shared immunity, some OTHER person getting the shot and exposure like shared tubs with someone with a cronic case in THEIR gut,,,,, its called cross immunity. if you have not already pulled titers I would

From: Amy

Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:02 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

Yes yes and again, yes!!! this is the biggest thing on all my son's tests. He has three different parasites. (which our CDSA did not find, only a specialist found them, so I encourage everyone to question results that come back negative.) He has pretty much zero secretory IgA as well, so many low level food allergies, all, in my opinion, caused by parasites. We are still waiting for our test results after treatment, to see where we stand, but he is doing SO great. I'm so going to look into the vitamin A thing too, so thank you for posting this!!Oh, and my son is allergic to carrots, nasty bugs don't want me giving him any LOL!!!>> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > Chewing> Nose Picking> Tactile issues> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> VERBAL STIMMING> > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?>

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This might be a stretch, but do you think there's a possibilty that he's allergic to these foods because of the parasites?

Is he allergic to coconut and cranberries, too?

Check out the book The Food Allergy Cure by Ellen Cutler. Maybe it'll help.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 5:50:06 AMSubject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

We did three rounds of Alinia. Three days on, three weeks off, repeat. Now I'm using Paratrex, one capsule twice a day, just for maintenance until I know what else is left. I can tell you they aren't gone, though. Also giving Activated Charcoal religiously, and pretty much all of the stimming has stopped. Like a miracle. I think we were killing bugs faster than he could detox them, but I finally figured out the mop-up step is just as important.It also seems to me that if the host doesn't tolerate sulfur foods or supplements well, that would be ideal for a parasite that detests sulfur. Foard is allergic to GARLIC, potato, tomato, carrot--all the foods I read about they don't like. I'm really curious about strep too...it's time for more bloodwork, so maybe we'll get lucky and if it's there, it'll show up. Amy> >> > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > > > Chewing> > Nose Picking> > Tactile issues> > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> > VERBAL STIMMING> > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in

the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?> >>

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When we did Alinia we did 30 days straight. Also, to check for strep (PANDAS) you may want to run a comprehensve stool analysis. The strep is in the gut. 50% of the kids w/ PANDAS do not have high ASO/DNASE titers.

Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 5:50 AM

We did three rounds of Alinia. Three days on, three weeks off, repeat. Now I'm using Paratrex, one capsule twice a day, just for maintenance until I know what else is left. I can tell you they aren't gone, though. Also giving Activated Charcoal religiously, and pretty much all of the stimming has stopped. Like a miracle. I think we were killing bugs faster than he could detox them, but I finally figured out the mop-up step is just as important.It also seems to me that if the host doesn't tolerate sulfur foods or supplements well, that would be ideal for a parasite that detests sulfur. Foard is allergic to GARLIC, potato, tomato, carrot--all the foods I read about they don't like. I'm really curious about strep too...it's time for more bloodwork, so maybe we'll get lucky and if it's there, it'll show up. Amy> >> > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > > > Chewing> > Nose Picking> > Tactile issues> > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> > VERBAL STIMMING> > > > I learned from

Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?> >>

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Sorry, but I don't know. We have not done valtrex yet. Sent from my iPhone

So do you use high dose vitamin A even if you are using other anti virals, like Valtrex?To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 6:38:41 PMSubject: Re: Re:

Vit A procotol and

Parasites...

Caryn, We had a really nice response to High vit A both times we did it. The second time was actually better because we were on OLE. The first time it was fantastic until maintenence and he had a short pandas flair, or something akin to it.Sent from my iPhone

I have been considering trying the high dose A on my unvaccinated for son for a similiar reason. I have heard it is good at treating strep. My son is a PANDAS kid. I have also been looking into the possibility that the strep lives inside worms within the body. My son has greatly improved on augmentin for strep. We are now treating worms and he potty trained within 24 hours (had previously been time-trained) and is sleeping through the night again.

I will probably try high dose A during spring break and will report what I find.

Caryn

>

> So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

>

> Chewing

> Nose Picking

> Tactile issues

> Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> VERBAL STIMMING

>

> I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

>

> Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

>

> So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

>

> Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

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Amy, Thanks! What a great resource,Sent from my iPhone

www.abebooks.com is where you can find older and out of print books (I think most of them are used). I've ordered lots of books from this site and have never had a problem.

A lot of the info I get is from "The Ultimate Healing System" by LePore..

me health food store lady gave me her copy - its a wealth of info. I have used it with great success. (she saw Maddies rashes and went to her stash to see if she could help. one by one all the rashes went away.)

laura :)

> > >

> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > >

> > > Chewing

> > > Nose Picking

> > > Tactile issues

> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > >

> > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > >

> > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > >

> > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > >

> >

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Thanks ,Ordered! can't wait to get it.Man, I used to consider myself resourceful until I encountered you people! Sent from my iPhone

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Healing-System-Illustrated-Nutrition/dp/1885670087/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1297984180 & sr=1-1

Found you a copy! :)laura

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> > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> > > > >

> > > > > Chewing

> > > > > Nose Picking

> > > > > Tactile issues

> > > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > > > >

> > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Lol, . I used to think I was the queen of Google til I met Toni.

This place is great. I love, love love the fact that we have so many sets of eyes on our situations, so many experiences and point of views and resources. It's the best.

-Tammy

To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 9:23:01 AMSubject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

Thanks ,

Ordered! can't wait to get it.

Man, I used to consider myself resourceful until I encountered you people!

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http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Healing-System-Illustrated-Nutrition/dp/1885670087/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1297984180 & sr=1-1Found you a copy! :)laura> > > > >> > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > > > > > > > > > Chewing> > > > > Nose Picking> > > > > Tactile issues> > > > > Sound

sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> > > > > VERBAL STIMMING> > > > > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > > > > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > > > > > > > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > > > > > > > > > Any

other parent treated parasites and found great gains?> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Thanks Amy. Were the three days on around the full moon? I haven't convinced my doctor to give the Alinia yet. I did start the Paratrex yesterday because things are so nuts here with behaviors. We can't do charcoal and are using modifilan and bach rescue remedy. i guess I need to up the dose. Are you using the Paratrex daily?

Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

We did three rounds of Alinia. Three days on, three weeks off, repeat. Now I'm using Paratrex, one capsule twice a day, just for maintenance until I know what else is left. I can tell you they aren't gone, though. Also giving Activated Charcoal religiously, and pretty much all of the stimming has stopped. Like a miracle. I think we were killing bugs faster than he could detox them, but I finally figured out the mop-up step is just as important.

It also seems to me that if the host doesn't tolerate sulfur foods or supplements well, that would be ideal for a parasite that detests sulfur. Foard is allergic to GARLIC, potato, tomato, carrot--all the foods I read about they don't like.

I'm really curious about strep too...it's time for more bloodwork, so maybe we'll get lucky and if it's there, it'll show up.

Amy

> >

> > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:

> >

> > Chewing

> > Nose Picking

> > Tactile issues

> > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > VERBAL STIMMING

> >

> > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> >

> > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> >

> > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> >

> > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> >

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Are parasites seasonal? Meaning, do they flare in the winter, say?We never had issues around the full moon, till this one. And now we have a cat. Cat was treated for worms when we got him (which I assume makes them evacuate, not necessarily kill them??)

Sigh.

 

At this point, I think everything is a possibility! They have amazing self preservation mechanisms. I've been readin alot for several months now about them. Nasty stuff.

Never noticed any problems with coconut, and it wasn't included in the allergy panel we did. We need to do more testing as well, but he only eats a few things as it is, low oxalate, feingold, ugh...just crazy. Thanks for the book recommendation, I will definitely check it out. :)

> > >

> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for

> >these recent reasons:

> > >

> > > Chewing

> > > Nose Picking

> > > Tactile issues

> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)

> > > VERBAL STIMMING

> > >

> > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not

> >digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My

> >son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish

> >Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.

> > >

> > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had

> >MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.

> > >

> > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite

> >diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA

> >CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.

> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?

> > >

> >

>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Right-on...so how much of a body burden do you think it would be on a person to consume these "allergenic" foods to fight the pathogens? I wonder if the end would justify the means.

I wish I had these problems so I could try it on myself to see....

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 1:58:19 PMSubject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I believe that many food allergies come from an immune response from our internal pathogens.> > >> > > So I wrote a day or so ago

and mentioned I think my son has parasites for > >these recent reasons:> > > > > > Chewing> > > Nose Picking> > > Tactile issues> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> > > VERBAL STIMMING> > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not > >digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My > >son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish > >Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had > >MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > > > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the

Parasite > >diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA > >CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?> > >> >>

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Caryn-

Thanks for sharing. Glad you are feeling better and can not wait for the day you report that your son is, too! that is awesome!

-tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:13:31 PMSubject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

As this group is now very intereted in parasites, I wanted to post to this group what I posted to the borrelia board recently.I have been treating myself for lyme, strep, etc for over 3 years and have been very sick. I was easily able to relate to my son's illness (AKA autism) and have him dx with autism before he was 1 years old b/c I was sooo sick myself with many symptoms similiar to autism. After many, many years of treatment, I am doing very well, finally, just shortly after beginning an extensive worm protocol with allinia and an herbal parasite formula in addition to the augmentin I take for strep.I know many families have found success treating for yeast, strep, lyme, herpes, measles, but I am truly wondering if the root of our problem is worms. This would certainly explain the gut issues and the malnutrition. My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty

trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along.Caryn> > >> > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:> > >

> > > Chewing> > > Nose Picking> > > Tactile issues> > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)> > > VERBAL STIMMING> > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.> > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.> > > > > > So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.> > >

> > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains?> > >> >>

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I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.Love and prayers,Heidi N

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Just because something is "the norm", it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same

with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance.

When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.

I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PMSubject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......

From: allrpossible@...

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

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I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be aware that treating

for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.Love and prayers,Heidi N

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that is visual stimming and yes vit A can help that. for a kid showing those signs I would pull titers on rubeola (measels)

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**Okay I'm gonna throw a really weird "holistic" idea out there. When we saw the herbalist/kinesiologist in Indiana, the apprentice suggested that Malachi was breech due to a problem with "polarity". Like the baby really *thinks* it's the right position to be in...In a book I have I read about how Parasites can cause "Reverse Polarity", changing the flow of energy in the individual cells to go "Southerly" vs. "Northerly" (which would be correct).Something very strange Malachi has been doing since his (extreme) weird behavior began a couple months ago, is, he will turn his toys upside down to look at them---like LeapFrog toys that have LCD screens on them. Then the other day he was watching a cartoon on Netflix on the laptop and he was frustrated b/c he wanted to watch the screen up-side down and I said no. Why else would he do this unless "upside-down" looks more "normal" to him??Okay here is an interesting read confirming a lot of the thins we've been throwing out there concerning Parasites & Vit A and IgA. Read this link under the title: "Complications..."http://www.holistic-wellness-basics.com/human-parasites.html>> I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.> > Love and prayers,> > Heidi N>

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actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues....

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

Just because something is "the norm", it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance.

When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that.

I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a "tumor" that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! So this is something "NT" 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy.

-Tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PMSubject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have......

From: allrpossible@...

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM

To: mb12 valtrex

Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites...

I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms.Love and prayers,Heidi N

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