Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 I've never had to treat for parasites but just about everything I've ever read about them states that a cup of grated carrots a day will kill them. So that makes perfect sense. -Tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 2:48:41 PMSubject: Vit A procotol and Parasites... So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons:ChewingNose PickingTactile issuesSound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%)VERBAL STIMMINGI learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite "flag". My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA.Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR.So I read in my reference book "Nutritional Healing" under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed.Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes yes and again, yes!!! this is the biggest thing on all my son's tests. He has three different parasites. (which our CDSA did not find, only a specialist found them, so I encourage everyone to question results that come back negative.) He has pretty much zero secretory IgA as well, so many low level food allergies, all, in my opinion, caused by parasites. We are still waiting for our test results after treatment, to see where we stand, but he is doing SO great. I'm so going to look into the vitamin A thing too, so thank you for posting this!! Oh, and my son is allergic to carrots, nasty bugs don't want me giving him any LOL!!! > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > Chewing > Nose Picking > Tactile issues > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > VERBAL STIMMING > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Maddie was allergic to carrots, potatoes, bananas, corn, peas, all forms of grains, (there is A LOT MORE) etc. (I mean, stupid allergies) - it got to the point it was easier to list what she could have vs what she couldn't. At her Mother's Day out program, I sent EVERYTHING she ate. The two things that I found that took ALL her allergies away were: Syntol w/Candex and Culturelle (I did aggressive for a month and a half) and now she gets one Syntol before bed. And Juicing. For the 'allergenic' things - like carrots, I found that 'nutrient' equal that she wasn't allergic too, and juiced that. So, for carrots, I did pears/fennel/pineapple,celery,asparagus -- this helps get the natural sodium/potassium levels to good serum levels and in the correct ratio. Because when the body is sodium deficient, they become allergic to everything. (or when the serum levels are too low to maintain proper electrolyte balance. I found by figuring out this stuff, the allergies were gone. Her rashes from allergies was so bad, that they bled and stuck to her PJ's. If you could see her skin now, you wouldn't believe it's the same child. laura > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > Chewing > > Nose Picking > > Tactile issues > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 A lot of the info I get is from " The Ultimate Healing System " by LePore.. me health food store lady gave me her copy - its a wealth of info. I have used it with great success. (she saw Maddies rashes and went to her stash to see if she could help. one by one all the rashes went away.) laura > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > Chewing > > > Nose Picking > > > Tactile issues > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have been considering trying the high dose A on my unvaccinated for son for a similiar reason. I have heard it is good at treating strep. My son is a PANDAS kid. I have also been looking into the possibility that the strep lives inside worms within the body. My son has greatly improved on augmentin for strep. We are now treating worms and he potty trained within 24 hours (had previously been time-trained) and is sleeping through the night again. I will probably try high dose A during spring break and will report what I find. Caryn > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > Chewing > Nose Picking > Tactile issues > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > VERBAL STIMMING > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I forgot to add - here is a website...that might be able to help. The info was in the book, I'm not sure if it's on the site. http://www.bodyandsoulreconnection.com/food-allergies-can-be-reversed/ Either way, it's a great reference book, and something to do while you wait for your doctor to respond... laura > > > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > > > Chewing > > > > Nose Picking > > > > Tactile issues > > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Healing-System-Illustrated-Nutrition/dp/188567008\ 7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1297984180 & sr=1-1 Found you a copy! :)laura > > > > > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > > > > > Chewing > > > > > Nose Picking > > > > > Tactile issues > > > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks . I will share what I find. Caryn > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > Chewing > > Nose Picking > > Tactile issues > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 We did three rounds of Alinia. Three days on, three weeks off, repeat. Now I'm using Paratrex, one capsule twice a day, just for maintenance until I know what else is left. I can tell you they aren't gone, though. Also giving Activated Charcoal religiously, and pretty much all of the stimming has stopped. Like a miracle. I think we were killing bugs faster than he could detox them, but I finally figured out the mop-up step is just as important. It also seems to me that if the host doesn't tolerate sulfur foods or supplements well, that would be ideal for a parasite that detests sulfur. Foard is allergic to GARLIC, potato, tomato, carrot--all the foods I read about they don't like. I'm really curious about strep too...it's time for more bloodwork, so maybe we'll get lucky and if it's there, it'll show up. Amy > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > Chewing > > Nose Picking > > Tactile issues > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I believe that many food allergies come from an immune response from our internal pathogens. > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for > >these recent reasons: > > > > > > Chewing > > > Nose Picking > > > Tactile issues > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not > >digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My > >son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish > >Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had > >MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite > >diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA > >CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 As this group is now very intereted in parasites, I wanted to post to this group what I posted to the borrelia board recently. I have been treating myself for lyme, strep, etc for over 3 years and have been very sick. I was easily able to relate to my son's illness (AKA autism) and have him dx with autism before he was 1 years old b/c I was sooo sick myself with many symptoms similiar to autism. After many, many years of treatment, I am doing very well, finally, just shortly after beginning an extensive worm protocol with allinia and an herbal parasite formula in addition to the augmentin I take for strep. I know many families have found success treating for yeast, strep, lyme, herpes, measles, but I am truly wondering if the root of our problem is worms. This would certainly explain the gut issues and the malnutrition. My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along. Caryn > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > Chewing > > > Nose Picking > > > Tactile issues > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 @Caryn:I am starting to think this way! (about parasites being a root problem!) I am on Day 3 of the Black Walnut/Woomwood Complex and day 1 of Paranil Jr. I am not trying to make things up but he is like 45-50% less stimmy today. He's been a NUT JOB lately AND his preschool teacher said this was by far his best day at school (no sensory/audio meltdowns, screaming, behavior!) Hmmm.... > > > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > > > Chewing > > > > Nose Picking > > > > Tactile issues > > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 At this point, I think everything is a possibility! They have amazing self preservation mechanisms. I've been readin alot for several months now about them. Nasty stuff. Never noticed any problems with coconut, and it wasn't included in the allergy panel we did. We need to do more testing as well, but he only eats a few things as it is, low oxalate, feingold, ugh...just crazy. Thanks for the book recommendation, I will definitely check it out. > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for > >these recent reasons: > > > > > > Chewing > > > Nose Picking > > > Tactile issues > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not > >digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My > >son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish > >Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had > >MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite > >diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA > >CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I tried my best to get him started on the full moon dates. I wish I had used the activated charcoal then, cause I swear two of those and he's as calm as can be. I feel like maybe I didn't get all the toxins out when we used the Alinia, but now I know better!!! I'm using the Paratrex daily, and not having any trouble with it. I'm sure it's probably not low oxalate, but I'm doing the best I can--most things have GSE in them and he goes bananas on that stuff. Big citrus problems here. You know some big changes have been the humongous, greasy stools are gone and his belly is flat flat flat!!! Even on biotin that never happened for him! I " m really hoping the more we get rid of, the less histamine reactions he wil have as well. > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > Chewing > > > Nose Picking > > > Tactile issues > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Thirty days??? Holy cow, no wonder we didn't get them all. We have a consult on Monday to get the latest results, so we shall see.. We did a CSA and there was no strep. But they also didn't find one parasite and he had three, so not sure I trust the test, in all honesty. I'm not gonna be happy until I settle the strep question for myself, so I'll keep working on it. Thanks ! Amy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I am on Day 3 of the Black Walnut/Woomwood Complex and day 1 of Paranil Jr. I am not trying to make things up but he is like 45-50% less stimmy today. He's been a NUT JOB lately AND his preschool teacher said this was by far his best day at school (no sensory/audio meltdowns, screaming, behavior!) Hmmm.... > > > > > > > > > > So I wrote a day or so ago and mentioned I think my son has parasites for these recent reasons: > > > > > > > > > > Chewing > > > > > Nose Picking > > > > > Tactile issues > > > > > Sound sensitivity (returned after going away about 80%) > > > > > VERBAL STIMMING > > > > > > > > > > I learned from Dr. Oz online that if you have high fecal fats (fats not digesting) your stool will float in the toilet and that is a parasite " flag " . My son had high fecal fats on one lab. Also learned that parasites diminish Immunoglobulin A. On my son's stool lab, he was VERY low in IgA. > > > > > > > > > > Then I was following the thread here on the Vit A protocol (my son never had MMR) and read that kids are responding to the therapy even though no MMR. > > > > > > > > > > So I read in my reference book " Nutritional Healing " under the Parasite diagnosis that the SECOND MOST important thing listed after Acidophilis is *BETA CAROTENE at 50,000 IU's a day* until healed. > > > > > > > > > > Any other parent treated parasites and found great gains? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I dont think Parasites are the root problem. SubRoot? Offshoot? Branch? I still think Iodine deficiency is the root problem. Or if the maladies are the roots would iodine (and other nutrients) be the subroot? And the roots (Parasites,Virus, Bacteria, Metals, Vaccines, Toxins)branch out into all the ever expanding root system of diseases, symptoms, disorders, cancers. Before this post started i really knew little about Parasites. I sorta wish i didnt know what i know now. The parasite as a root problem fits with the Lack of Iodine theory causing the body to be unable to remove or process virus, bacteria, metals, vaccines, toxins. Add Parasites. Major gaggs but not really that different than virus and bacteria. They are all BUGS. All comes down to not having enough of the basic nutrients that keep a body healthy and bug free. Interesting that the Black Walnut Hulls are what is most recommended since they have an extremely high iodine content. The Rx for parasites was Iodine at one time(until early 30s, from 1800s).I have such a hard time thinking that the norm 100 years ago was to take Iodine and now people are so afraid of it and write it off. I have read of different amounts of iodine to take for Parasites (one was 60 Drops 2 to 3 times a day (thats a lot of iodine). Another suggested 3 tsps a day for 3 weeks. (Thats a mega dose of iodine). These were adult dosages. Perhaps it takes that much to kill the more stubborn parasites and Candida(There is an Iodine Candida protocol using about 200mg per day). Maybe strep. Not sure I have enough nerve to take or give that much at once! I have had on a low dosage of iodine, because i am paranoid, and getting results, but now wonder if more would get even better results cause he has parasites, too! Does the Paranil taste bad? I plan to try the Black Walnut. I dont know that i or have parasites but I am inclined to think they are probably there(or were, maybe i killed them already, but i kinda doubt it since so much more iodine than 50mg seems to be what Docs Rxd in the past). Very interested in hearing more from those doing Parasite protocols! Cheryl > > > > As this group is now very intereted in parasites, I wanted to post to this group what I posted to the borrelia board recently. > > > > I have been treating myself for lyme, strep, etc for over 3 years and have been very sick. I was easily able to relate to my son's illness (AKA autism) and have him dx with autism before he was 1 years old b/c I was sooo sick myself with many symptoms similiar to autism. > > > > After many, many years of treatment, I am doing very well, finally, just shortly after beginning an extensive worm protocol with allinia and an herbal parasite formula in addition to the augmentin I take for strep. > > > > I know many families have found success treating for yeast, strep, lyme, herpes, measles, but I am truly wondering if the root of our problem is worms. This would certainly explain the gut issues and the malnutrition. > > > > My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along. > > > > Caryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I forgot to ask about feeding worms! Caryn, do you have info on things that feed worms? I havent read anything on that topic (and still find it a little difficult to google Parasite things cause they have pictures and it makes my skin crawl and i wonder if its really literal)! Cheryl > > > My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along. > > > > > > Caryn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. Love and prayers, Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 @Cheryl: I just ran to the fridge to test it! LOL! The Paranil tastes...well earthy and like Sage (there is Sage in it). I wouldn't say that it's bitter, almost a little like Barlean's OLE (a little...)It's not bad! I still believe in the Iodine theory though!! We Kelp everyday! > > > > > > As this group is now very intereted in parasites, I wanted to post to this group what I posted to the borrelia board recently. > > > > > > I have been treating myself for lyme, strep, etc for over 3 years and have been very sick. I was easily able to relate to my son's illness (AKA autism) and have him dx with autism before he was 1 years old b/c I was sooo sick myself with many symptoms similiar to autism. > > > > > > After many, many years of treatment, I am doing very well, finally, just shortly after beginning an extensive worm protocol with allinia and an herbal parasite formula in addition to the augmentin I take for strep. > > > > > > I know many families have found success treating for yeast, strep, lyme, herpes, measles, but I am truly wondering if the root of our problem is worms. This would certainly explain the gut issues and the malnutrition. > > > > > > My son is only about 2 weeks into his worm protocol, but we are optimistic for great things (he potty trained in 24 hours.) We have actually stopped his other supplements b/c I think many are feeding the worms and will resume once we are further along. > > > > > > Caryn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 **Okay I'm gonna throw a really weird " holistic " idea out there. When we saw the herbalist/kinesiologist in Indiana, the apprentice suggested that Malachi was breech due to a problem with " polarity " . Like the baby really *thinks* it's the right position to be in... In a book I have I read about how Parasites can cause " Reverse Polarity " , changing the flow of energy in the individual cells to go " Southerly " vs. " Northerly " (which would be correct). Something very strange Malachi has been doing since his (extreme) weird behavior began a couple months ago, is, he will turn his toys upside down to look at them---like LeapFrog toys that have LCD screens on them. Then the other day he was watching a cartoon on Netflix on the laptop and he was frustrated b/c he wanted to watch the screen up-side down and I said no. Why else would he do this unless " upside-down " looks more " normal " to him?? Okay here is an interesting read confirming a lot of the thins we've been throwing out there concerning Parasites & Vit A and IgA. Read this link under the title: " Complications... " http://www.holistic-wellness-basics.com/human-parasites.html > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Thinking about doing the Vit A protocol: Retinol vs. Beta Carotene. Doing a Vit A protocol with Beta Carotene is different than the Retinol form of Vit A. BC is NOT stored in the body like the Retinol form is. Malachi's Labs show that the RETINOL levels are normal but that doesn't mean that doing the BC Vit A protocol cannot help him or any other child!! Read this link: http://www.nutriherb.net/vitamin_A_retinol_beta-carotene.html THIS IS INTERESTING!!! > > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 @Christel: Not vaccinated > > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 @Christel: Where in the world are you getting this information? If you even try to Google " Whipworm benefits " or Whipworm IgA " or " Whipworm Amazingness " You get NOTHING except " HELP! I'm Infected---Get these sucka's OUT! " I cannot Google and find ONE benefit!? From One website: Symptoms of Whipworm The list of signs and symptoms mentioned in various sources for Whipworm includes the 8 symptoms listed below: * No symptoms * Symptoms of intestinal infestation: o Intermittent stomach pain o Bloody stools o Diarrhea o Weight loss o Bloody diarrhea o Rectal prolapse This list really doesn't support any claim of benefits! I can't believe that we need to welcome whipworms with our " IgA deficient open arms " and hope they will " give life " to us. ??? > > actually it BEING the norm can means we are meant to co-exist, which is the point of the whip worms, they keep the mucus in the gut like it should (IGA lining) which you are also linking into the vit A discussion. it being the norm and people NOT having problems WITH having them and our kids being LOW in them and having issues WITH OUT Them suggests we NEED them for proper health.....they treat by taking the the eggs of the whip worms which hatch on their way down and take root (and before you get grossed out- it's really no different then talking about probiotics) it's taking something that is in all bodies (again we ALL have bacteria in our body, we all have yeast in our body, we all have worms in our bodies, we all have parasites in our bodies) its not just kids seeing benefits with the whip worms eggs, it also adults, those with IBD and IBS completely better when reinhibited.....the theory is from it allowing the body to have the mucus lineing that the person can't produce and is our IGA production then needing this and THIS is why we are low when we have IGA issues.... > > > From: T Lynn > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:26 PM > To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites... > > > > > Just because something is " the norm " , it does not necessarily make it Ok or healthy. Why are GI kids low in whipworm? Could be due to alot of things. Treaments for other symptoms might be killing them off. Bigger, stronger invaders could be taking over....there's a number of possiblities. With that said, there probably aren't as many NT kids walking around with these problems because their bodies are healthy and strong enough to keep parasites at a safe level. Let's not forget that these kids are so ill that their bodies can not handle the same burden as an NT. So, just in the same way many of our children will feel the effects of say... low vitamin d levels more than an NT would, I'm sure the effects would be the same with parasites. The majority of nt's are probably not seeing 3-4 days go by without bowel movements. A chronically constipated child is a perfect host. A child with leaky gut is a perfect host as parasites will develop from undigested food rotting in the gut. These parasites are in a perfect environment to not merely exist, but to thrive in great abundance. > > When a 4 year old child poops out a 7 1/2 foot tapeworm, I will never be convinced that it wasn't affecting that baby's health. Thank God for and Stan catching that. > > I recently watched a news piece about a woman who was undergoing emergency brain surgery for a " tumor " that turned out to be a worm residing on her brain. The surgeon said this is becoming more and more common and instead of doctors seeing maybe one case in a lifetime, they are seeing multiples! > So this is something " NT " 's may be dealing with as well. Crazy. > > -Tammy > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To: mb12 valtrex > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:10:45 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites... > > > > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it’s being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have...... > > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM > To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites... > > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 That makes me think of when leaches were used to treat various illnesses. I could never introduce a parasite as a treatment, and I've tried some questionable things. > > I hate to bust this thread but we ALL have worms, and parasites living in our bodies, you can do a quick thread on whip worms and they find people with GI issues are actually LOW in whip worms and it's being used a treatment. see you can't just look at what our kids have, you have to look at what our kids have that NT kids don't have...... > > > > From: allrpossible@... > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:39 PM > To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Vit A procotol and Parasites... > > > > I don't think it's worms as much as it's protozoa -- which are like > microscopic worms. A researcher I know says that he found a protozoa in > all of those with autism that he has tested. He further stated that he > can not identify the protozoa, feeling that it has not yet been > discovered in mainstream science. For the record, some of the > antibiotics and worm medications, also kill protozoa. But, the natural > things that kill protozoa are also often anti-viral. So, it's still > unclear. At this point, I still believe it's best to treat for all > pathogen types (protozoa, worms, bacteria, viruses, and yeast). Also, > keep in mind that some of those with autism and/or mental retardation > are getting it from worms. If you Google, you will learn that having > worms while very young can cause mental retardation and all kinds of > developmental delays, which would include autism symptoms. So, yes be > aware that treating for worms and protozoa should be considered. Also, > Google to learn how the testing is very unreliable. The good autism > docs know this. It's about getting a good health practitioner that > knows about which labs and testing to use or knows how to go by symptoms. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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