Guest guest Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, all comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 , Did you run titers? my daughter's were scary high for Rubella 385.3.and my dan gave me Valtrex for my daughter.My daughter started showing signs after her MMR and I know that Rubella is the cause of her down slide.We haven't started her on Valtrex yet because we wanted to get her antifungal in place first. I was going to start today because she seems to be coming down with something didn't sleep very good last night and is warm to the touch. Anyway I will post how she is doing when I start the Valtrex. > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, all comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though. > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, all comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Symptoms of the virus? I have never heard of that. Your regulR ped can run the tigers you don't need the dan to do this. My insurance covered everything Sent from my iPhone I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though. > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there "die-off" with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 , We went through our insurance..They didn't cover all I think we owe like 140.00 but it was well worth it.We ran all the titers..and 6 were high..rubella being the higest. > > > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, all comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 TF-RMM is also an option and I'm pretty sure you can use it at the same time as monolaurin - TF-RMM is transfer factor so it should be fine with it. I'm not well versed in monolaurin so you should ask your doc before you jumped on it, though. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Be sure to have a comprehensive list of symptoms that should be reported to your doctor on your next visit. That's all I'm saying..... ; ) -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 2:45:52 PMSubject: Re: Rubella? I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though.> >> > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, all comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there "die-off" with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me!> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 My son's pedi wouldn't test for ANYthing. Even his dan was hesitant to pull titers right away until I mentioned my hubby's incident with bell's palsy right before I got pregnant. That got his attention quickly. Insurance did pay for those titers. The dans finance office told me we're lucky to have blue cross because they cover more than most. To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Cc: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:16:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: Rubella? Symptoms of the virus? I have never heard of that. Your regulR ped can run the tigers you don't need the dan to do this. My insurance covered everything Sent from my iPhone I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though.> >> > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there "die-off" with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me!> > > > > >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 9 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Titers are typically covered by insurance. I've never understood why any DAN would be hesitant to pull titers - a test that will cost the parents maybe $20 but love to convince parents to do a $700 test *not* covered by insurance.I've not heard of any US insurance that doesn't cover the Labcorp titer labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~~@Gryffins_Tail~ My son's pedi wouldn't test for ANYthing. Even his dan was hesitant to pull titers right away until I mentioned my hubby's incident with bell's palsy right before I got pregnant. That got his attention quickly. Insurance did pay for those titers. The dans finance office told me we're lucky to have blue cross because they cover more than most. To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Cc: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:16:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: Rubella? Symptoms of the virus? I have never heard of that. Your regulR ped can run the tigers you don't need the dan to do this. My insurance covered everything Sent from my iPhone I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though.> >> > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there "die-off" with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me!> > > > > >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 9 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well, because so many people test postive for hhv6 antibodies. He really wanted to see what my son's gut looked like first (which makes sense) and he wanted me to do a challenge test which I declined (and he was very very cool about it.) I must say this guy is great. He doesn't nickel and dime us ever. They have a finance office who will meet with you and set a reasonable plan according to what you can afford and the order of importance. they do everything they can to make sure you get all the bang for your buck. I can't say enough about the place. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 4:35:58 PMSubject: Re: Re: Rubella? Titers are typically covered by insurance. I've never understood why any DAN would be hesitant to pull titers - a test that will cost the parents maybe $20 but love to convince parents to do a $700 test *not* covered by insurance. I've not heard of any US insurance that doesn't cover the Labcorp titer labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~ My son's pedi wouldn't test for ANYthing. Even his dan was hesitant to pull titers right away until I mentioned my hubby's incident with bell's palsy right before I got pregnant. That got his attention quickly. Insurance did pay for those titers. The dans finance office told me we're lucky to have blue cross because they cover more than most. To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Cc: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:16:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: Rubella? Symptoms of the virus? I have never heard of that. Your regulR ped can run the tigers you don't need the dan to do this. My insurance covered everything Sent from my iPhone I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though.> >> > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there "die-off" with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me!> > > > > >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 9 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Because they were trained by the same people who trained the mainstream people and they haven't got all the brainwashing out of their heads. LOLAll the doctors are like this... don't want to do a 20$ lab test (cash price would be 300$ but ins only has to pay 20$) but they are all about ready to sign you up for some surgery... so they can't say it's to save the insurance company from undue expenses. I had a doc just tell me a few weeks ago she wouldn't run thyroid antibodies on me because I am already on thyroid, and since it wouldn't change the treatment, then it's unnecessary. Niiice. Uh, yeah, not going back to see her, either.  Titers are typically covered by insurance.  I've never understood why any DAN would be hesitant to pull titers - a test that will cost the parents maybe $20 but love to convince parents to do a $700 test *not* covered by insurance. I've not heard of any US insurance that doesn't cover the Labcorp titer labs. Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com~ ~@Gryffins_Tail~  My son's pedi wouldn't test for ANYthing. Even his dan was hesitant to pull titers right away until I mentioned my hubby's incident with bell's palsy right before I got pregnant. That got his attention quickly. Insurance did pay for those titers. The dans finance office told me we're lucky to have blue cross because they cover more than most. To: " mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex > Cc: " mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex > Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:16:39 PMSubject: Re: Re: Rubella? Symptoms of the virus? I have never heard of that. Your regulR ped can run the tigers you don't need the dan to do this. My insurance covered everything  Sent from my iPhone  I haven't yet, no. I am trying to figure out what this is going to cost us. I've started the conversations with our DAN!, but I don't know how to make this work out so that insurance will cover the titers we want pulled. If you don't mind me asking, was this covered by insurance or did you have to pay out of pocket, and if you did, was it super expensive? Did you just run the Rubella titers or did you order others? We wanted to do them all, but the doctor is saying that he needs to have symptoms of the virus to have insurance cover it. I think he's making a call for us, haven't heard back yet. It's definitely something we want to do though. > >> > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > >> Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 9 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 We tried our ped first, he won't do it, claims there are no standard limits for knowing what is high and since he was vaccinated, he is going to have the titers, grrrr. So now we are going through our DAN! who was gracious enough to send us the labwork for just about everything under the sun, but when asking our insurance if they will pay for any of this stuff, they want our doctor's notes showing why we need them. Our insurance is a HUGE problem, they don't let anything by them, they question everything and have denied more than 80% of what we have gone in for even after telling us things would be covered. The worst part is that my husband works for the insurance company that insures us....sigh! It looks like I may have to find out what these tests will cost us out of pocket. I don't even understand the point of having insurance, it has really paid for almost nothing for my son. They even questioned regular bloodwork like a CBC and metabolic panel. Then when we went back to discuss the results with our doctor, they wanted more " back-up " from the doctor. It's really insane! > > > > > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 There are some coding specialists on this group I believe... they might have advice. I have seen codes like " nutritional deficiency, unspecified " and " viral illness, undetermined " which seem like they may be helpful?? Â We tried our ped first, he won't do it, claims there are no standard limits for knowing what is high and since he was vaccinated, he is going to have the titers, grrrr. So now we are going through our DAN! who was gracious enough to send us the labwork for just about everything under the sun, but when asking our insurance if they will pay for any of this stuff, they want our doctor's notes showing why we need them. Our insurance is a HUGE problem, they don't let anything by them, they question everything and have denied more than 80% of what we have gone in for even after telling us things would be covered. The worst part is that my husband works for the insurance company that insures us....sigh! It looks like I may have to find out what these tests will cost us out of pocket. I don't even understand the point of having insurance, it has really paid for almost nothing for my son. They even questioned regular bloodwork like a CBC and metabolic panel. Then when we went back to discuss the results with our doctor, they wanted more " back-up " from the doctor. It's really insane! > > > > > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 In the book " Special Needs Kids Eat Right, " by Judy Converse, pg 274 and 275- there is a list of nutrition diagnosis codes for insurance. and we paid most of our stuff out of pocket, I got tired of arguing with the insurance co (which I think they just try to wear you down) - I spent more time on the phone than I wanted to and felt my time would be better spent, so I got a part time job to pay for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > After two years of biomedicine, I think I am FINALLY drawing some > > connections regarding my son's problems, some real connections, but I am > > still needing some help with what to do about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me start by saying how I figured this out. We had been fighting > > yeast and Clostridia which we appear to be under control. His recent stool > > test was practically perfect! And while I am happy about that it got me > > thinking about the mood swings he was still having, and some bloating. So I > > began to piece together the viral possibility. Thinking back....after his > > MMR vaccination at 12 months old, he reacted to it for an entire month, with > > various full body rashes, swollen glands (one that remains swollen even now, > > on the side of his neck), and he had a swollen knee that wouldn't bend one > > day. Then when I started him on OLE, ten days into increasing his dose, he > > broke out in a rash. It started around his neck and chest and spread to his > > torso and upper arms, and now that I am looking online, it looked exactly > > like the rubella rash!! And the icing on the cake...when I give him even one > > teeny tiny monolaurin pellet the sensory stuff that has been GONE for ages, > > a ll comes back, along with emotional instability, low threshold for > > frustration, and irritation. He even gets itchy and hot all over, like he > > did with what I thought was yeast overgrowth! > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this look like we are dealing with a Rubella virus?? Oh and I > > noticed on my hospital discharge paperwork, from when I had him, that I > > still had antibodies for Rubella, shouldn't they be long gone since I hadn't > > had a vaccination in well over 25+ years? I didn't have antibodies for > > anything else they tested me for. Could I have this same problem and have > > passed it on, in addition to the fact that he had the MMR? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is monolaurin the only natural choice for addressing Rubella? And > > is there " die-off " with viruses like with other pathogens? Should we ride > > the doses at a tolerable level or should we plow through (controlled, of > > course) die off like we do with the pathogens in order to get past the > > die-off? Is there anything else I should know? I can talk circles about > > yeast and bacteria, but this...this is all new to me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Toni > > ------ > Mind like a steel trap... > Rusty and illegal in 37 states. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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