Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 Hi Anita, The only thing I've heard of, is the B-12, iron, and calcium issues that MAY arise from this surgery if you don't take the needed supplements. I have always been told to eat 40-60 gr. of protein per day, and not to take supplements that are protein enriched. My Dr. said that the protein capsules sold in most stores, is not the same type of protein our bodies require. I have had low iron both prior to surgery as well as now, my B-12 is fine, and my calcium is gained through yogurt, Calcium supplements, milk, cheese, basically any dairy products. I don't drink or eat anything different as far as dairy, other than having a huge glass of milk with a ton of double stuffed Oreos since surgery. I honestly haven't a clue if I had a distal, or a proximal...all I know is my surgeon measured " an arms length " to bypass...whatever that means, it's working! Before you get really nervous, I would make the phone call to the surgeons office, and ask them directly. Nobody including myself are Dr's on this list, and we're not the people to advise you, nor tell you of which procedure you'll have, or what the absorption rate is like after surgery. Trust me, I'd love to give everyone the 110% answers we'd all like, but I'm not a medical Dr....I just tell people my experiences, and personal knowledge I've gained from my support team. Make any sense? Dawn Unsettling Phone Call Hi, Anyone who can help me with this one would be a god send right now. So I ordered some powdered protein crap that a friend recommended from this place on-line. I called the distributor to place the order and began speaking with the guy about gastric bypass - he and his wife have both had WLS and sell all these supplements specifically to accomodate the post-op population. In any case, he began to tell me about his surgeon's philosophy - his surgeon gives EVERYONE the distal surgery regardless of BMI - his surgeon does blood tests quarterly for LIFE on all patients - his surgeon believes that distal patients need to take in 120 grams of protein daily and that proximal patients should consume 1/2 that amount daily - but here's the kicker - according to this surgeon - as conveyed by this guy to me - the surgery causes extreme malabsorption of nutrients so that only 10- 15% of protein from food is absorbed after surgery for the rest of your post-op life. So, the only solution, according this guy and his surgeon, is to eat pre-digested protein. I'm a bit freaked out about this and would really like to know if anyone has heard about this issue of malabsorption and pre-digested vs. non-pre-digested (as from normal food) protein. I don't want to have this surgery as a reasonably healthy person and end up with a serious malnourishment problem which compromises my health in the long run. Anita 4 days to surgery and wiggin out a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 Hi Dawn, Thanks for your response. You should know that I was not expecting or asking for medical advice persay I just wanted to know if anyone had heard of this pre-digested protein issue before. If you have not that's fine. I was aware of the vitamin deficiency issue and I felt I could handle taking supplements for the rest of my life just fine but I want to know if protein from food is not going to be absorbed properly - that's pretty important. I agree with you about contacting the surgeon and that's what I'll try to do. Lastly, the type of surgery that you had is distal - sometimes referred to as the long arm method or something like that - it means they bypassed more of your stomach I believe. Just in case you wanted to know. Anita > Hi Anita, > > The only thing I've heard of, is the B-12, iron, and calcium issues that MAY > arise from this surgery if you don't take the needed supplements. I have > always been told to eat 40-60 gr. of protein per day, and not to take > supplements that are protein enriched. My Dr. said that the protein > capsules sold in most stores, is not the same type of protein our bodies > require. > > I have had low iron both prior to surgery as well as now, my B-12 is fine, > and my calcium is gained through yogurt, Calcium supplements, milk, cheese, > basically any dairy products. I don't drink or eat anything different as > far as dairy, other than having a huge glass of milk with a ton of double > stuffed Oreos since surgery. > > I honestly haven't a clue if I had a distal, or a proximal...all I know is > my surgeon measured " an arms length " to bypass...whatever that means, it's > working! > > Before you get really nervous, I would make the phone call to the surgeons > office, and ask them directly. Nobody including myself are Dr's on this > list, and we're not the people to advise you, nor tell you of which > procedure you'll have, or what the absorption rate is like after surgery. > > Trust me, I'd love to give everyone the 110% answers we'd all like, but I'm > not a medical Dr....I just tell people my experiences, and personal > knowledge I've gained from my support team. > > Make any sense? > > Dawn > > Unsettling Phone Call > > > Hi, > Anyone who can help me with this one would be a god send right now. > So I ordered some powdered protein crap that a friend recommended > from this place on-line. I called the distributor to place the order > and began speaking with the guy about gastric bypass - he and his > wife have both had WLS and sell all these supplements specifically to > accomodate the post-op population. In any case, he began to tell me > about his surgeon's philosophy - his surgeon gives EVERYONE the > distal surgery regardless of BMI - his surgeon does blood tests > quarterly for LIFE on all patients - his surgeon believes that distal > patients need to take in 120 grams of protein daily and that proximal > patients should consume 1/2 that amount daily - but here's the > kicker - according to this surgeon - as conveyed by this guy to me - > the surgery causes extreme malabsorption of nutrients so that only 10- > 15% of protein from food is absorbed after surgery for the rest of > your post-op life. So, the only solution, according this guy and his > surgeon, is to eat pre-digested protein. I'm a bit freaked out about > this and would really like to know if anyone has heard about this > issue of malabsorption and pre-digested vs. non-pre-digested (as from > normal food) protein. I don't want to have this surgery as a > reasonably healthy person and end up with a serious malnourishment > problem which compromises my health in the long run. > > Anita > 4 days to surgery and wiggin out a bit > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 thanks! Unsettling Phone Call > > > Hi, > Anyone who can help me with this one would be a god send right now. > So I ordered some powdered protein crap that a friend recommended > from this place on-line. I called the distributor to place the order > and began speaking with the guy about gastric bypass - he and his > wife have both had WLS and sell all these supplements specifically to > accomodate the post-op population. In any case, he began to tell me > about his surgeon's philosophy - his surgeon gives EVERYONE the > distal surgery regardless of BMI - his surgeon does blood tests > quarterly for LIFE on all patients - his surgeon believes that distal > patients need to take in 120 grams of protein daily and that proximal > patients should consume 1/2 that amount daily - but here's the > kicker - according to this surgeon - as conveyed by this guy to me - > the surgery causes extreme malabsorption of nutrients so that only 10- > 15% of protein from food is absorbed after surgery for the rest of > your post-op life. So, the only solution, according this guy and his > surgeon, is to eat pre-digested protein. I'm a bit freaked out about > this and would really like to know if anyone has heard about this > issue of malabsorption and pre-digested vs. non-pre-digested (as from > normal food) protein. I don't want to have this surgery as a > reasonably healthy person and end up with a serious malnourishment > problem which compromises my health in the long run. > > Anita > 4 days to surgery and wiggin out a bit > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Anita The more distal the surgery, the more malapsorption takes place. That's the point of distal. Whoever this doc is must do EXTREMELY distal surgery. Dont listen to others. Listen to your own surgeon & his staff. Or the real experts. US , your online buddies! Dont worry. Of course you are wiggin out at this point. kim in plymouth robert_armes@... wrote: Hi, Anyone who can help me with this one would be a god send right now. So I ordered some powdered protein crap that a friend recommended from this place on-line. I called the distributor to place the order and began speaking with the guy about gastric bypass - he and his wife have both had WLS and sell all these supplements specifically to accomodate the post-op population. In any case, he began to tell me about his surgeon's philosophy - his surgeon gives EVERYONE the distal surgery regardless of BMI - his surgeon does blood tests quarterly for LIFE on all patients - his surgeon believes that distal patients need to take in 120 grams of protein daily and that proximal patients should consume 1/2 that amount daily - but here's the kicker - according to this surgeon - as conveyed by this guy to me - the surgery causes extreme malabsorption of nutrients so that only 10- 15% of protein from food is absorbed after surgery for the rest of your post-op life. So, the only solution, according this guy and his surgeon, is to eat pre-digested protein. I'm a bit freaked out about this and would really like to know if anyone has heard about this issue of malabsorption and pre-digested vs. non-pre-digested (as from normal food) protein. I don't want to have this surgery as a reasonably healthy person and end up with a serious malnourishment problem which compromises my health in the long run. Anita 4 days to surgery and wiggin out a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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