Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi mark: You are absolutely right. I totally agree. Now that I have said that, I have a question also. I became diabetic way back in the day when we went by exchanges and counted calories. Like I told you guys before, I went quite a while where I was not in very good control. I have brought my a1c down from twelve to eight point one but I am trying very hard to bring it down to a six. So my question is this. I know way back someone posted the carb chart or whatever it is. Could you send it again? i would like to Braille it out so that it is at hand. I am really really trying and I want to get this right before I have any complications. mark you are truly an inspiration. I admire you so much for how you are doing. Good on you! yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that is why it is called the present. Another q please. If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my triglycerides of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as long as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there numbers under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know of many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you will be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies and the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and then soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been reading that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of like reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that there A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 to over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to refined carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a diabetic! this is to crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 you are way to sweet and kind to a silly pig. I never payed much attention to my high sugars until lately. I suppose some guys like pigs got to all most turn in to bacon and ham before they will believe there life could end some night! you keep on keeping on. one day at a time is all you think about every morning when you wake up. plan your meals for the day before you start the day. have each meal laid out in your mind and do just that and nothing else. plan your snacks too if you have them. plan your exercise as well at certain times during the day. this habit of writing this all down the day before will help a whole lot to keeping you and I on the right path and on the wagon. going in to a new day half cocked is crazy to say the least! with no plan of the day you and I both will fall flat up on our heads and right now I got 12 days tied together in a streen with out breaking that streen. I'm very proud of this fact and I plan to make it a very long streen, but each day I got to plan and write down what the next day will hold for me. haven't never done it this way before and I never made a streen of 3 days much less 12. You and I got to have the right attitude to win at this new life style change and it must start with the plan of to morrow and only to morrow. one day at a time sweet Jesus! you have came down from 12 and now you are 8! this is so wonderful and grate! you are more then half way to your goal right now! you have all ready done the first part of the journey and it was up the first side of the mountain you had to clime. now you are on the back side of the mountain and it is down hill the rest of the way! throw your arms up over your head and be loud and proud the rest of the way home! don't stop and look back or the pig will catch you. Another q please. If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my triglycerides of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as long as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there numbers under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know of many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you will be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies and the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and then soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been reading that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of like reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that there A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 to over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to refined carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a diabetic! this is to crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi mark: hay I wondered. This business of living one day at a time reminds me of something. Do you think they have a diabetics anonomous group> I can see it. Hello my name is , and I'm a diabetic. Audience. Hi ! don't you think that's a good idea? Maybe the twelve step program could help us too. Just a thought. yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that is why it is called the present. Another q please. If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my triglycerides of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as long as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there numbers under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know of many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you will be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies and the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and then soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been reading that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of like reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that there A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 to over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to refined carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a diabetic! this is to crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Well, we kind of act like a support group but we're not too annonymous, LOL. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I have heard of some places do have diabetic support groups where people go and meet as a group. also I heard that a lot of these groups follow the standards set by the A D A as there guide lines. If this is the case in your area and you found such a group, then I think I would be very careful when attending such a group. you may be able to start one up on your own though and reeducate folks who are diabetic to the real truth of carbs and how they effect our blood sugars. of course in the mean time I think you will learn as much good information right here on this support group. we may not meet in person, but it does seem to me that here you are told the truth and will have your questions answered pretty quickly and honestly. Another thing you might think on, is a group of diabetics who were interested could meet together in a room where you use a microphone and have a round table type discussion about the different issues you have with the disease. the biggest problem with a meeting as this is getting every one to clear a certain day to meet at the same time. Now I've been in such rooms before for other kinds of meetings and they worked out fine for me, but I didn't set the room up and had nothing to do with it other then showing up on the day the meeting was. so you could look in to this and you might all ready find such a thing now. of course I still don't think you or I can beat this fine group right here for the right answers we need to hear and know. the traffic may be high at this time, but some one here will always learn something from every post that will help them with there personal fight with diabetes. when each of us ask a q for the group, that q will be answered in a way that also helps those who didn't ask a q. nothing is to silly or to strange to ask. If you are off base with your thinking, then this group will as I have figured out over the years at least point you in the right direction and help you find the right answers to your questions even if they don't know. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I too would like to have a carb chart for the computer. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi Mark, I agree with you to a certian point. However, we need some one on one for, personal support. I've been with my group at the local hospital for about five years. We are a small group of about twelve of us in all. We'll watch video's on different things pertaining to diabetes, in general. Sometimes, we get demonstrations, on insulin pumps. And other things as well. Yes, we do get support here but, more is needed. I encourage you and everyone here to join a group.   ________________________________ To: blind-diabetics Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: Another q please.  I have heard of some places do have diabetic support groups where people go and meet as a group. also I heard that a lot of these groups follow the standards set by the A D A as there guide lines. If this is the case in your area and you found such a group, then I think I would be very careful when attending such a group. you may be able to start one up on your own though and reeducate folks who are diabetic to the real truth of carbs and how they effect our blood sugars. of course in the mean time I think you will learn as much good information right here on this support group. we may not meet in person, but it does seem to me that here you are told the truth and will have your questions answered pretty quickly and honestly. Another thing you might think on, is a group of diabetics who were interested could meet together in a room where you use a microphone and have a round table type discussion about the different issues you have with the disease. the biggest problem with a meeting as this is getting every one to clear a certain day to meet at the same time. Now I've been in such rooms before for other kinds of meetings and they worked out fine for me, but I didn't set the room up and had nothing to do with it other then showing up on the day the meeting was. so you could look in to this and you might all ready find such a thing now. of course I still don't think you or I can beat this fine group right here for the right answers we need to hear and know. the traffic may be high at this time, but some one here will always learn something from every post that will help them with there personal fight with diabetes. when each of us ask a q for the group, that q will be answered in a way that also helps those who didn't ask a q. nothing is to silly or to strange to ask. If you are off base with your thinking, then this group will as I have figured out over the years at least point you in the right direction and help you find the right answers to your questions even if they don't know. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 well you may be right. I use to belong to a group who was all x drugs heads like me. we all were trying to kick the habit and we all got fat after we gave up the drugs and the smoke. we did help one another and it was fun to boot. sitting around talking about old war stories was just to cool. maybe having a support group right here in the city may come in handy when I had the desire to go buy a dozen doughnuts and a gallon of milk and tie the feed bag on! they could talk me out of it and bring me a head of ice burg instead. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi how does one find out if there is a support group for diabetics in ones city? thanks -- My skype is scott20122012 Have a great day! 73's kb0clz Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 you might try support groups and all kinds of groups should pop up. the hospital PR department might be another good place to ask or even your doc office. they are out there in most big Cities I would think, or you might be the first to just create your own and be the first President! Re: Another q please. Hi how does one find out if there is a support group for diabetics in ones city? thanks -- My skype is scott20122012 Have a great day! 73's kb0clz Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 You are right Mark. I was just kind of being silly. But this group is the best diabetic group I have found for getting information and support. yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery. Today is a gift, that is why it is called the present. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I would agree that this is the best place to find out things about diabetes. -- My skype is scott20122012 Have a great day! 73's kb0clz Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Hi Mark, you really do get something out of support groups. ________________________________ To: blind-diabetics Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Another q please. Â well you may be right. I use to belong to a group who was all x drugs heads like me. we all were trying to kick the habit and we all got fat after we gave up the drugs and the smoke. we did help one another and it was fun to boot. sitting around talking about old war stories was just to cool. maybe having a support group right here in the city may come in handy when I had the desire to go buy a dozen doughnuts and a gallon of milk and tie the feed bag on! they could talk me out of it and bring me a head of ice burg instead. Another q please. > > If the doc would have left me on the 10 mg of glipiside and 1000 mg of > met Forman twice a day, do you think my sugars would have > come down this fast? he said the choice was up to me to go on the insulin > or stay on the meds, but his opinion was my > triglycerides > of 1400 wouldn't come down with out insulin as I'm doing now. I have > heard some nurses say that you should stay off insulin as > long > as you can. they will tell you that insulin by the needle will also kill > organs over time. I have always heard both sides of this > issue over the past ten years that I have been a diabetic. I have also > known of some T 2's that go on insulin to bring there > numbers > under better control and then go off of it and back to just pills. do you > guys think this is wise? I would think once a T 2 starts > taking insulin by the needle, then they should stay on it from then on to > be sure there numbers stay where they should be. I don't > know very many guys here in OKC who only take pills that have a good A1C > if they have been a T 2 for ten years or longer. I know > of > many who still take no pills of any kind and there A1C is still in the > safe range, all though they eat like they wish to be on > insulin to morrow. with the way we Americans and the rest of the world > now eat, I wouldn't be surprised if there is 2 times more > people right now running around who are now a T 2 and just don't know it > yet. I bet in a few years teenagers will become a T 2 > because of the American diet with fast food. I have noticed by having > people read the labels for me in the grocery store that what > the label says is low fat, actually has all most as many carbs and > calories as the real thing with all the fat! but yet you will > watch people throw piles of this junk in there basket thinking it is ok > to eat if you are a diabetic or over weight. labels are so > miss leading. then you go up to the web site of the A D A who are suppose > to have the diabetics best interest at heart and you > will > be in all kinds of bad shape if you eat as me carbs as they say to eat in > a day. I'm beginning to think that the drug companies > and > the A D A are in bed together and making a pile of money off all the meds > they are passing out to cover up the problem instead of > talking to us about life style changes, like eating less carbs and more > exercise. all they want to do is give us more pills and > then > soon we take insulin by needle and more pills. then we all keep eating > like nothing is wrong and never do we exercise. my regular > doc never ask me about eating less carbs or how much did I exercise a day > and what kind of exercise was I doing? now I been > reading > that a lot of thin people are now finding out they got something that > some are saying is maybe a T 3 type of diabetes. kind of > like > reactive hypoglo and can't spell the rest. these people don't have a > weight problem at all, but yet they are finding out that > there > A1C may be around 5, but there fasting sugar is high. I've heard that > they go check it out and drink that real sweet junk and sit > around for a few hours and they watch you and check your sugar every half > hour. so now these thin folks now are finding out they > have a problem as well with spiking sugar and dropping real fast. I know > this fellow who said his sugar can go from as low as 50 > to > over 160 in a few seconds! this sounds like it would be harder to treat > then T 1 or T 2. so the bottom line it all falls to > refined > carbs that people eat these days and not the good carbs. they say by > 2050, one out of every 2 people in the world will be a > diabetic! this is to crazy! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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