Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Oh Soraya...my heart aches for you...you have the patience of a saint. Seriously, a special place for you in heaven, and if purgatory is all you can get, I'll be there with my friends smoking and drinking (you know, wine - the good stuff and my guess is that cigarettes don't contain all the bad stuff??) LOL! We'll save a place for you at the table. Ugh.. You know, sometimes I think less is more, then again, sometimes more is what you need...so it's hard to say what I would do if in your shoes. However, I did candex and syntol together. I would probably hold off on GSE while doing Diflucan, because, you don't want to over tax his fragile liver. That would be my thinking too. I think Diflucan is a great drug in terms of getting yeast under control. I mean it kills everything. You might want to just do Diflucan, and then when you think you're done, then start the probiotics. Candex is a yeast eater, Syntol is expensive so you don't want to kill what you are trying to populate. I might do Diflucan and Candex. I would probably hold off with Syntol until you are done with diflucan. Are you doing any liver support things like milk thistle? Also Magnesium might help 'calm' him some...I know for my son it was a life saver... " Naturally Calm " -- and it might be good to supplement while he's on diflucan to help support the detox. I hide mine in pineapple juice, but my daughter loves to drink it straight. You never know. Maybe Oxypowder instead w/charcoal to help with die off? Are you doing just diflucan or are you doing a flagyl too? :)laura > > Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control, > but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December his > yeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, > practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums. > We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few rounds > before but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn't > getting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he > spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other things > concurrently. > > What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G, > I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I > bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but I > don't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Do > you think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too > much? > > Thanks very much! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Is he gluten free as well? What brand of rice milk are you using? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have GSE here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and GSE together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 b12 was great, but made my guy nutty as well--what helped was spacing out the shots--we couldn't do every day--we started at every 3 days and it took a long time to even get to every other day. One day at a time. hope this helps RE: Horrible yeast flare Is he gluten free as well? What brand of rice milk are you using? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have GSE here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and GSE together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Oh thank you, , that was what I wanted to know, about what else to do while on diflucan. And no purgatory for me. I'm going all the way up, baby lol. We just switched to Dr. Megson in VA, and she didn't suggest flagyl, and I didn't think to ask her for it when she was writing the diflucan rx. I'll call her tomorrow and ask for that rx. Flagyl is an rx, right? We've never tried it. I looked up Natural Calm online this morning and I saw that it was mostly mag citrate, if I remember correctly. Dr. Megson wants us to start a compounded mag glycinate liquid, and we're already on mag oxide everyday. And oxypowder everyday. So I hope that does the trick to calm him. My poor little guy had such a bad day at school today--tantrums, aggression--in a string of bad days. I hope his teachers and classmates don't hate him . He's nonverbal too, which I'm sure just adds to his frustration.I'll order some milk thistle tomorrow. Thanks so much for the suggestions. I'm so discouraged today. Oh Soraya...my heart aches for you...you have the patience of a saint. Seriously, a special place for you in heaven, and if purgatory is all you can get, I'll be there with my friends smoking and drinking (you know, wine - the good stuff and my guess is that cigarettes don't contain all the bad stuff??) LOL! We'll save a place for you at the table. Ugh.. You know, sometimes I think less is more, then again, sometimes more is what you need...so it's hard to say what I would do if in your shoes. However, I did candex and syntol together. I would probably hold off on GSE while doing Diflucan, because, you don't want to over tax his fragile liver. That would be my thinking too. I think Diflucan is a great drug in terms of getting yeast under control. I mean it kills everything. You might want to just do Diflucan, and then when you think you're done, then start the probiotics. Candex is a yeast eater, Syntol is expensive so you don't want to kill what you are trying to populate. I might do Diflucan and Candex. I would probably hold off with Syntol until you are done with diflucan. Are you doing any liver support things like milk thistle? Also Magnesium might help 'calm' him some...I know for my son it was a life saver... " Naturally Calm " -- and it might be good to supplement while he's on diflucan to help support the detox. I hide mine in pineapple juice, but my daughter loves to drink it straight. You never know. Maybe Oxypowder instead w/charcoal to help with die off? Are you doing just diflucan or are you doing a flagyl too? :)laura > > Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control, > but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December his > yeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, > practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums. > We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few rounds > before but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn't > getting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he > spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other things > concurrently. > > What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G, > I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I > bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but I > don't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Do > you think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too > much? > > Thanks very much! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 No, I hate to say, we're not all the way gfcf yet, and I know that's a big part of the problem. I don't even know if yeast fighters will work if I'm still giving him gluten and potatoes **hangs head**. We're working on that. We're using Rice Dream, the organic, plain, soy-free type. Is he gluten free as well? What brand of rice milk are you using? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya s Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December his yeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn't getting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G, I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have GSE here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and GSE together. Do you think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hmmm. We're already on an every-3-days schedule with the shots. I wonder if we should try spacing it out even more...? b12 was great, but made my guy nutty as well--what helped was spacing out the shots--we couldn't do every day--we started at every 3 days and it took a long time to even get to every other day. One day at a time. hope this helps RE: Horrible yeast flare Is he gluten free as well? What brand of rice milk are you using? From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:41 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have GSE here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and GSE together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Soraya, You'll get there, you will probably see huge gains when you do. Tantrums used to be a daily part of our day - like 20 times a day - once we got rid of milk/wheat/gluten/casein -- he was very sweet, but weepy...we got that under control too...baby steps. Hang in there. laura (and don't forget to wave to the party crowd! > > > > Is he gluten free as well? What brand of rice milk are you using? > > > > > > > > > > *From:* mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] *On > Behalf Of *Soraya s > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 9:41 PM > *To:* mb12 valtrex > *Subject:* Horrible yeast flare > > > > > > Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control, > but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December his > yeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, > practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums. > We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few rounds > before but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn't > getting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he > spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other things > concurrently. > > What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G, > I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I > bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have GSE here but I > don't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and GSE together. Do > you think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too > much? > > Thanks very much! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 ...and I know it's hard to stay encouraged... yes, Flagyl is an Rx...it worked well for Jimmy. He did both at the same time. That made me a bit nervous, as it's really hard on the liver - but it worked out okay. Just make sure he's drinking/eating going to the bathroom regularly. laura:) > > > > Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control, > > but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December his > > yeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, > > practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums. > > We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few rounds > > before but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn't > > getting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he > > spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other things > > concurrently. > > > > What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G, > > I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I > > bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but I > > don't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Do > > you think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too > > much? > > > > Thanks very much! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 This isn’t probably much help since you are already on difulcan but our DAN (dr. green in Oregon) recommended Nystatin over Difulcan. We had the hardest time getting our son to take it since it is so bitter but the compounding pharmacy was able to mix it in a powdered form. We mix ¼ teaspoon with a teaspoon of maple syrup and doesn’t mind it that way. Cheers, mardi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their "natural" chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@... Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'm not sure. I'll see what I can find. It may have to wait till tomorrow. My husband's sleeping and the books are up in my room.... To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 9:44:58 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a "clean" brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their "natural" chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Thank you very much, Tammy! I'm not sure. I'll see what I can find. It may have to wait till tomorrow. My husband's sleeping and the books are up in my room.... To: " mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex > Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 9:44:58 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@... Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 We might just start doing that. We made coconut " milk " nearly every day for 2 years but we recently found our DS was having a severe igg reaction to it so we switched to Rice Dream 2 months ago. I guess we'll have to do something else now. That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya s Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@... Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control, but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few rounds before but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently. What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but I don't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 This week I am going to attempt to make macadamia milk. I'll let you know how it turns out. (Macadamia is one of the lowest in oxalates as far as nuts go) -tammy To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:38:56 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare We might just start doing that. We made coconut "milk" nearly every day for 2 years but we recently found our DS was having a severe igg reaction to it so we switched to Rice Dream 2 months ago. I guess we'll have to do something else now. That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a "clean" brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their "natural" chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Tammy can you please let me know how you make it. Thank you i need it for my son. Tunde This week I am going to attempt to make macadamia milk. I'll let you know how it turns out. (Macadamia is one of the lowest in oxalates as far as nuts go) -tammy To: " mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex > Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:38:56 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare We might just start doing that. We made coconut " milk " nearly every day for 2 years but we recently found our DS was having a severe igg reaction to it so we switched to Rice Dream 2 months ago. I guess we'll have to do something else now. That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya s Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AM Subject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@... Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too much?Thanks very much! -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Sure. Ez-breezy...soak your macadamias in water for 2 -4 hours so they get soft. (the softer and more bloated they become, the easier they will be to blend) Throw them in your blender with water (1 part macadamia to 3-4 parts water). Blend until you've gotten it as smooth as you can. Strain your milk through cheesecloth into a jar and voila! You've got milk! It can last in the frij for 3 or 4 days. You could throw in a little stevia and vanilla if your son in used to vanilla flavored subs. hth, tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:08:31 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Tammy can you please let me know how you make it. Thank you i need it for my son. Tunde This week I am going to attempt to make macadamia milk. I'll let you know how it turns out. (Macadamia is one of the lowest in oxalates as far as nuts go) -tammy To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:38:56 PM Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare We might just start doing that. We made coconut "milk" nearly every day for 2 years but we recently found our DS was having a severe igg reaction to it so we switched to Rice Dream 2 months ago. I guess we'll have to do something else now. That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya sSent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a "clean" brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their "natural" chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! -- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Thank you for this tip, i am sure he will like it. Tunde Sure. Ez-breezy...soak your macadamias in water for 2 -4 hours so they get soft. (the softer and more bloated they become, the easier they will be to blend) Throw them in your blender with water (1 part macadamia to 3-4 parts water). Blend until you've gotten it as smooth as you can. Strain your milk through cheesecloth into a jar and voila! You've got milk! It can last in the frij for 3 or 4 days. You could throw in a little stevia and vanilla if your son in used to vanilla flavored subs. hth, tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:08:31 PMSubject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Tammy can you please let me know how you make it. Thank you i need it for my son. Tunde This week I am going to attempt to make macadamia milk. I'll let you know how it turns out. (Macadamia is one of the lowest in oxalates as far as nuts go) -tammy To: " mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex > Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:38:56 PM Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare We might just start doing that. We made coconut " milk " nearly every day for 2 years but we recently found our DS was having a severe igg reaction to it so we switched to Rice Dream 2 months ago. I guess we'll have to do something else now. That’s why I was asking what brand you use. I believe Pacific is supposed to be clean. I gave up on the packaged stuff, and started making my own. From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of Soraya s Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:45 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Horrible yeast flare Okaaaay....that really sucks. Is there a " clean " brand of rice milk? It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AM Subject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@... Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or too much?Thanks very much! -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 If you live close to a Whole Foods, they have almond milk that has almost no carbs in it. Of course, it's high in phenol so if your son is sensitive to that (as most of our kids are), it's not helpful...As far as natural anti-fungals, GSE worked very well for us although again, it's concentrated grapefruit seed extract so very high in phenol.Gen It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their "natural" chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter,practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and hespit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and Ibought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 Thanks for the advice, but i can not give him almond milk, he has a reaction to it, so I was thinking of alternative.Tunde If you live close to a Whole Foods, they have almond milk that has almost no carbs in it. Of course, it's high in phenol so if your son is sensitive to that (as most of our kids are), it's not helpful... As far as natural anti-fungals, GSE worked very well for us although again, it's concentrated grapefruit seed extract so very high in phenol.Gen It contains arsenic, too. Someone here had mentioned it before. And it's also mentioned in taca's Families with Autism Journey Guide. Arsenic in Perdue chicken, too....even their " natural " chkn. What a bummer. -tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:38:25 AMSubject: RE: Horrible yeast flare Just FYI - Rice Dream has gluten in it. It's a 'trace amount' (per the company), but my understanding is that even trace amounts can cause issues. - Kirk- To: mb12 valtrex From: sorayastevens@...Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:41:38 -0500 Subject: Horrible yeast flare Hey guys, I have always struggled to get my son's yeast under control,but since we put him on rice milk and b12 shots again in December hisyeast is soooo much worse. Constant stims, maniacal laughter, practically climbing the walls, rigidity and aggression/tantrums.We're trying another round of diflucan (we've tried a few roundsbefore but we really didn't see anything, I think b/c he wasn'tgetting full doses. It's so hard to give him things by mouth and he spit out a lot of it) but I would like to try other thingsconcurrently.What natural antifungals can I give in addition to diflucan? G,I've started my son on candex b/c of what you've said about it, and I bought Syntol but I haven't started it yet. I have gse here but Idon't want to overtax his liver w/ the diflucan and gse together. Doyou think diflucan, candex and Syntol together might be enough or toomuch?Thanks very much! -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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