Re: Mossy Cheryl re: iodine

[Guest guest]

One drop is a place to start. That first drop can be scary mostly because of all

the misinformation. One drop of Lugols Iodine wont kill anyone. I thought it

might ;-) One drop is about 2.5 mg and a dropperful is about 38mg . Make

sure they have enough Natural Salt, Mag, Se, C , Niacin, B2.

And it's a sure thing to me, if your kids are iodine deficient, and i feel they

most certainly are, so is their Mom. Their bodies were created without enough

iodine and they started life that way. And all the insults to their bodies

(Vaccines, toxins, bugs they cant get rid of) just make it worse.

6 to 12.5mg is what is being used with kids. Have to consider all the issues,

and how much die off there might be, how well they handle it, so going slow can

be good.

Lugols Iodine can be hard on the stomach at increasing amounts.Why so many use

Iodoral. So if you are going to increase the dosage from 1 drop I would either

space it out of 2 or 3 times in a day or use some ingested and some transdermal.

Consider 1 drop transdermal to only be about ¾ mg (and that is not totally

accurate, close enough in my book) So if the goal is 6mg. A person might take 1

drop ingested and 4 drops on skin to reach the total. Used in areas that have

fat or increased blood supply, or issues (skin abnormality of any kind) helps.

Fluoride is a halide. One of many that displaces iodine from cells. Chlorine,

Mercury, Bromide. When there isnt enough iodine in the body (deficiency)

these things are able to displace iodine from cells.

Taking a shower in fluoridated water is like drinking 8 glasses of the stuff.

The skin with hot water is like a sponge. Chlorine. Fluoride. What ever is in

the water is going to be in the body within minutes.

I was thinking that Oxalate was a halide but its not. Different concept, similar

action. Sort of. I think . I havent completely wrapped my head around Oxalates

yet, still learning, but finding it fascinating. The halides seem to bond with

the Oxalate. Less oxalate seems to mean more body iodine available. So it goes

to reason that if a person is eating a Low Ox Diet or a Low Goitrogen diet

(goitrogens are known foods that inhibit iodine similar to oxalate, not sure if

same mechanism) that supplementing iodine for a person on these diets would

provide more available iodine than someone eating a high oxalate and high

goitrogen diet. Can explain why the dosages seem to vary what feels right, or

tests right, in people and how much is needed to obtain sufficiency. Now if I

could only stop eating them Potatoes are proving easier than the chocolate

icecream.

If the body has enough iodine (saturated or sufficient) there is no

displacement. Enough iodine to keep out the halides. Maybe enough to control

the oxalates? Enough iodine to kill and remove the virus, parasites, bacteria,

fungus.

You probably need an entire house water filtration system! And now you probably

feel like I did when I learned recently that this entire area I live in is Hg

rich. It's mined just a few miles from my house. Our water is high in it. Good

thing I dont cook or drink it but really wonder about bathing in it.

Cheryl

>

> :-)

>

> So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> poisoning. Interesting " Florida " and " Fluoride. "

>

> Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

>

> I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> water?

>

> For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

I put a half dropperful in our son's bath 5 nights a week. He swims 30 mi - hour each day so it just made sense. Sent from my iPhone

One drop is a place to start. That first drop can be scary mostly because of all the misinformation. One drop of Lugols Iodine wont kill anyone. I thought it might ;-) One drop is about 2.5 mg and a dropperful is about 38mg . Make sure they have enough Natural Salt, Mag, Se, C , Niacin, B2.

And it's a sure thing to me, if your kids are iodine deficient, and i feel they most certainly are, so is their Mom. Their bodies were created without enough iodine and they started life that way. And all the insults to their bodies (Vaccines, toxins, bugs they cant get rid of) just make it worse.

6 to 12.5mg is what is being used with kids. Have to consider all the issues, and how much die off there might be, how well they handle it, so going slow can be good.

Lugols Iodine can be hard on the stomach at increasing amounts.Why so many use Iodoral. So if you are going to increase the dosage from 1 drop I would either space it out of 2 or 3 times in a day or use some ingested and some transdermal. Consider 1 drop transdermal to only be about ¾ mg (and that is not totally accurate, close enough in my book) So if the goal is 6mg. A person might take 1 drop ingested and 4 drops on skin to reach the total. Used in areas that have fat or increased blood supply, or issues (skin abnormality of any kind) helps.

Fluoride is a halide. One of many that displaces iodine from cells. Chlorine, Mercury, Bromide. When there isnt enough iodine in the body (deficiency) these things are able to displace iodine from cells.

Taking a shower in fluoridated water is like drinking 8 glasses of the stuff. The skin with hot water is like a sponge. Chlorine. Fluoride. What ever is in the water is going to be in the body within minutes.

I was thinking that Oxalate was a halide but its not. Different concept, similar action. Sort of. I think . I havent completely wrapped my head around Oxalates yet, still learning, but finding it fascinating. The halides seem to bond with the Oxalate. Less oxalate seems to mean more body iodine available. So it goes to reason that if a person is eating a Low Ox Diet or a Low Goitrogen diet (goitrogens are known foods that inhibit iodine similar to oxalate, not sure if same mechanism) that supplementing iodine for a person on these diets would provide more available iodine than someone eating a high oxalate and high goitrogen diet. Can explain why the dosages seem to vary what feels right, or tests right, in people and how much is needed to obtain sufficiency. Now if I could only stop eating them Potatoes are proving easier than the chocolate icecream.

If the body has enough iodine (saturated or sufficient) there is no displacement. Enough iodine to keep out the halides. Maybe enough to control the oxalates? Enough iodine to kill and remove the virus, parasites, bacteria, fungus.

You probably need an entire house water filtration system! And now you probably feel like I did when I learned recently that this entire area I live in is Hg rich. It's mined just a few miles from my house. Our water is high in it. Good thing I dont cook or drink it but really wonder about bathing in it.

Cheryl

>

> :-)

>

> So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> poisoning. Interesting "Florida" and "Fluoride."

>

> Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

>

> I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> water?

>

> For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!I just added 5 drops in citrus juice w/ water, 16 oz. Of course it's unfiltered water but what can ya do?!I was thinking of a distiller, but it removes good minerals. Is there a way to put back in the good minerals in proper proportion (an easy way, like just add 5 drops of 'liquid minerals' from the vitamin store, etc)

I think I can get a distiller for a lot cheaper than a whole house filtration system. Sigh.

 

One drop is a place to start. That first drop can be scary mostly because of all the misinformation. One drop of Lugols Iodine wont kill anyone. I thought it might ;-) One drop is about 2.5 mg and a dropperful is about 38mg . Make sure they have enough Natural Salt, Mag, Se, C , Niacin, B2.

And it's a sure thing to me, if your kids are iodine deficient, and i feel they most certainly are, so is their Mom. Their bodies were created without enough iodine and they started life that way. And all the insults to their bodies (Vaccines, toxins, bugs they cant get rid of) just make it worse.

6 to 12.5mg is what is being used with kids. Have to consider all the issues, and how much die off there might be, how well they handle it, so going slow can be good.

Lugols Iodine can be hard on the stomach at increasing amounts.Why so many use Iodoral. So if you are going to increase the dosage from 1 drop I would either space it out of 2 or 3 times in a day or use some ingested and some transdermal. Consider 1 drop transdermal to only be about ¾ mg (and that is not totally accurate, close enough in my book) So if the goal is 6mg. A person might take 1 drop ingested and 4 drops on skin to reach the total. Used in areas that have fat or increased blood supply, or issues (skin abnormality of any kind) helps.

Fluoride is a halide. One of many that displaces iodine from cells. Chlorine, Mercury, Bromide. When there isnt enough iodine in the body (deficiency) these things are able to displace iodine from cells.

Taking a shower in fluoridated water is like drinking 8 glasses of the stuff. The skin with hot water is like a sponge. Chlorine. Fluoride. What ever is in the water is going to be in the body within minutes.

I was thinking that Oxalate was a halide but its not. Different concept, similar action. Sort of. I think . I havent completely wrapped my head around Oxalates yet, still learning, but finding it fascinating. The halides seem to bond with the Oxalate. Less oxalate seems to mean more body iodine available. So it goes to reason that if a person is eating a Low Ox Diet or a Low Goitrogen diet (goitrogens are known foods that inhibit iodine similar to oxalate, not sure if same mechanism) that supplementing iodine for a person on these diets would provide more available iodine than someone eating a high oxalate and high goitrogen diet. Can explain why the dosages seem to vary what feels right, or tests right, in people and how much is needed to obtain sufficiency. Now if I could only stop eating them Potatoes are proving easier than the chocolate icecream.

If the body has enough iodine (saturated or sufficient) there is no displacement. Enough iodine to keep out the halides. Maybe enough to control the oxalates? Enough iodine to kill and remove the virus, parasites, bacteria, fungus.

You probably need an entire house water filtration system! And now you probably feel like I did when I learned recently that this entire area I live in is Hg rich. It's mined just a few miles from my house. Our water is high in it. Good thing I dont cook or drink it but really wonder about bathing in it.

Cheryl

>

> :-)

>

> So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> poisoning. Interesting " Florida " and " Fluoride. "

>

> Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

>

> I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> water?

>

> For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

That's a fabulous idea...I never even thought of putting it in the bath!To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:49:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: Mossy Cheryl re: iodine

I put a half dropperful in our son's bath 5 nights a week. He swims 30 mi - hour each day so it just made sense. Sent from my iPhone

One drop is a place to start. That first drop can be scary mostly because of all the misinformation. One drop of Lugols Iodine wont kill anyone. I thought it might ;-) One drop is about 2.5 mg and a dropperful is about 38mg . Make sure they have enough Natural Salt, Mag, Se, C , Niacin, B2.

And it's a sure thing to me, if your kids are iodine deficient, and i feel they most certainly are, so is their Mom. Their bodies were created without enough iodine and they started life that way. And all the insults to their bodies (Vaccines, toxins, bugs they cant get rid of) just make it worse.

6 to 12.5mg is what is being used with kids. Have to consider all the issues, and how much die off there might be, how well they handle it, so going slow can be good.

Lugols Iodine can be hard on the stomach at increasing amounts.Why so many use Iodoral. So if you are going to increase the dosage from 1 drop I would either space it out of 2 or 3 times in a day or use some ingested and some transdermal. Consider 1 drop transdermal to only be about ¾ mg (and that is not totally accurate, close enough in my book) So if the goal is 6mg. A person might take 1 drop ingested and 4 drops on skin to reach the total. Used in areas that have fat or increased blood supply, or issues (skin abnormality of any kind) helps.

Fluoride is a halide. One of many that displaces iodine from cells. Chlorine, Mercury, Bromide. When there isnt enough iodine in the body (deficiency) these things are able to displace iodine from cells.

Taking a shower in fluoridated water is like drinking 8 glasses of the stuff. The skin with hot water is like a sponge. Chlorine. Fluoride. What ever is in the water is going to be in the body within minutes.

I was thinking that Oxalate was a halide but its not. Different concept, similar action. Sort of. I think . I havent completely wrapped my head around Oxalates yet, still learning, but finding it fascinating. The halides seem to bond with the Oxalate. Less oxalate seems to mean more body iodine available. So it goes to reason that if a person is eating a Low Ox Diet or a Low Goitrogen diet (goitrogens are known foods that inhibit iodine similar to oxalate, not sure if same mechanism) that supplementing iodine for a person on these diets would provide more available iodine than someone eating a high oxalate and high goitrogen diet. Can explain why the dosages seem to vary what feels right, or tests right, in people and how much is needed to obtain sufficiency. Now if I could only stop eating them Potatoes are proving easier than the chocolate icecream.

If the body has enough iodine (saturated or sufficient) there is no displacement. Enough iodine to keep out the halides. Maybe enough to control the oxalates? Enough iodine to kill and remove the virus, parasites, bacteria, fungus.

You probably need an entire house water filtration system! And now you probably feel like I did when I learned recently that this entire area I live in is Hg rich. It's mined just a few miles from my house. Our water is high in it. Good thing I dont cook or drink it but really wonder about bathing in it.

Cheryl

>

> :-)

>

> So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> poisoning. Interesting "Florida" and "Fluoride."

>

> Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

>

> I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> water?

>

> For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

I originally tried this because he drinks the bath water - ick, I know- years ago I took a NOLS course where we lived in the woods for a month. In order to make the water potable we added iodine. When I hear folks on the boards talk about the parasitic beasties, my mind just races. Sent from my iPhone

That's a fabulous idea...I never even thought of putting it in the bath!To: "mb12 valtrex " <mb12 valtrex >Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 10:49:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: Mossy Cheryl re: iodine

I put a half dropperful in our son's bath 5 nights a week. He swims 30 mi - hour each day so it just made sense. Sent from my iPhone

One drop is a place to start. That first drop can be scary mostly because of all the misinformation. One drop of Lugols Iodine wont kill anyone. I thought it might ;-) One drop is about 2.5 mg and a dropperful is about 38mg . Make sure they have enough Natural Salt, Mag, Se, C , Niacin, B2.

And it's a sure thing to me, if your kids are iodine deficient, and i feel they most certainly are, so is their Mom. Their bodies were created without enough iodine and they started life that way. And all the insults to their bodies (Vaccines, toxins, bugs they cant get rid of) just make it worse.

6 to 12.5mg is what is being used with kids. Have to consider all the issues, and how much die off there might be, how well they handle it, so going slow can be good.

Lugols Iodine can be hard on the stomach at increasing amounts.Why so many use Iodoral. So if you are going to increase the dosage from 1 drop I would either space it out of 2 or 3 times in a day or use some ingested and some transdermal. Consider 1 drop transdermal to only be about ¾ mg (and that is not totally accurate, close enough in my book) So if the goal is 6mg. A person might take 1 drop ingested and 4 drops on skin to reach the total. Used in areas that have fat or increased blood supply, or issues (skin abnormality of any kind) helps.

Fluoride is a halide. One of many that displaces iodine from cells. Chlorine, Mercury, Bromide. When there isnt enough iodine in the body (deficiency) these things are able to displace iodine from cells.

Taking a shower in fluoridated water is like drinking 8 glasses of the stuff. The skin with hot water is like a sponge. Chlorine. Fluoride. What ever is in the water is going to be in the body within minutes.

I was thinking that Oxalate was a halide but its not. Different concept, similar action. Sort of. I think . I havent completely wrapped my head around Oxalates yet, still learning, but finding it fascinating. The halides seem to bond with the Oxalate. Less oxalate seems to mean more body iodine available. So it goes to reason that if a person is eating a Low Ox Diet or a Low Goitrogen diet (goitrogens are known foods that inhibit iodine similar to oxalate, not sure if same mechanism) that supplementing iodine for a person on these diets would provide more available iodine than someone eating a high oxalate and high goitrogen diet. Can explain why the dosages seem to vary what feels right, or tests right, in people and how much is needed to obtain sufficiency. Now if I could only stop eating them Potatoes are proving easier than the chocolate icecream.

If the body has enough iodine (saturated or sufficient) there is no displacement. Enough iodine to keep out the halides. Maybe enough to control the oxalates? Enough iodine to kill and remove the virus, parasites, bacteria, fungus.

You probably need an entire house water filtration system! And now you probably feel like I did when I learned recently that this entire area I live in is Hg rich. It's mined just a few miles from my house. Our water is high in it. Good thing I dont cook or drink it but really wonder about bathing in it.

Cheryl

>

> :-)

>

> So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> poisoning. Interesting "Florida" and "Fluoride."

>

> Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

>

> I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> water?

>

> For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh goodness, I have these same racing thoughts as my two year old fills his

mouth with the nasty water during baths!! Iodine is going to be our new

addition to bath time, thanks for the idea!! The benefits are two-fold.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > So I was just reading the best way to combat fluoride poisoning is to use

> > iodine. I knew my part of Florida was big in the phosphate industry, and I

> > knew that was not good, but I didn't realize it was the cause of fluoride

> > poisoning. Interesting " Florida " and " Fluoride. "

> >

> > Anyway, we live smack dab in the middle of the phosphate mine county... we

> > don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but our water is not de-fluoridated.

> >

> > I have Lugol's 2%.... start with one drop or one dropperful in a glass of

> > water?

> >

> > For the kids? One drop? (They are 35 and 43 lbs each, my son is losing, my

> > daughter gaining LOL they used to weigh the same)

> >

> > --

> > Toni

> >

> > ------

> > Mind like a steel trap...

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do you guys who started taking iodine orally or  using it in the bath water take the test for iodine deficiency? I kind of ordered Lugol solution and I am still having thoughts about starting slow on my son. Bath tub looks like a safer start? I did not have my son tested. All I know is his TSH (4.270) from 2010. Can I just start with like 1 drop to see how it goes?

Ayse

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I havent used that product. I am familiar with it tho because several people use

it on the iodine group. The pill is adult dosage. Or is it a capsule? So it

would have to be split. And it is in time release pill so might want to split

the split over 2 or 3 times in a day since once you split it the time release

coating is gone. So probably 1/3 to 1/2 a pill (depending on weight) for the

entire daily dosage. It takes about 3 grams of it to be liver toxic.

I use the Niacin that flushes and B2 seperately. I started at 25mg Niacin and

worked up slowly to prevent flushing. I do have a straight niacin preference but

many think the other is fine.

If your child showed other B deficiency, which is very common, a comprehensive

Bvitamin combo might be needed(if they arent eating the equivalent or cant

process it normally).

Cheryl

>

> Hi Cheryl,

>

> just recieved ATP cofactors as recommended in dr.Brownsteins book,but b3

> content is 500mg b2 is 100mg,is the b3 on the scale that you give,my son

> will be 7 in a few weeks,just wanted to check what dosage of b3 you give

>

> many thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

 

Thanks for that.it is in cap form.MY son is on a vit b complex.We have used the Niacan before but he had a terrible reaction to the

form that flushes. Just wondering if the b combo maybe enough.

 

Thank you for your reply

 

 

Hi , I havent used that product. I am familiar with it tho because several people use it on the iodine group. The pill is adult dosage. Or is it a capsule? So it would have to be split. And it is in time release pill so might want to split the split over 2 or 3 times in a day since once you split it the time release coating is gone. So probably 1/3 to 1/2 a pill (depending on weight) for the entire daily dosage. It takes about 3 grams of it to be liver toxic.

I use the Niacin that flushes and B2 seperately. I started at 25mg Niacin and worked up slowly to prevent flushing. I do have a straight niacin preference but many think the other is fine. If your child showed other B deficiency, which is very common, a comprehensive Bvitamin combo might be needed(if they arent eating the equivalent or cant process it normally).

Cheryl

>> Hi Cheryl,> > just recieved ATP cofactors as recommended in dr.Brownsteins book,but b3

> content is 500mg b2 is 100mg,is the b3 on the scale that you give,my son> will be 7 in a few weeks,just wanted to check what dosage of b3 you give> > many thanks> >

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[Guest guest]

Our child's thyroid levels are normal, but I give him the iodine in the bath for two reasons. One, he is in chlorinated water every day for 30-60 minutes. Iodine is used to counter act effects of all that chlorinated water. Two, he drinks the bath water. I shudder to think what may be lurking in our bath water...I give him a little bit of selenium each week and he gets loads of Vit C. Both of these help body to process iodine.Hope this helps.Sent from my iPhone

Do you guys who started taking iodine orally or using it in the bath water take the test for iodine deficiency? I kind of ordered Lugol solution and I am still having thoughts about starting slow on my son. Bath tub looks like a safer start? I did not have my son tested. All I know is his TSH (4.270) from 2010. Can I just start with like 1 drop to see how it goes?

Ayse

[Guest guest]

Having a severe reaction of heavy flushing is a good indicator of Niacin

deficiency. Most Niacin pills are too large a dosage to start out with for most.

Taking Niacin on a full stomach also helps avoid flushing.

How much is in the B Combo?

Cheryl

> > >

> > > Hi Cheryl,

> > >

> > > just recieved ATP cofactors as recommended in dr.Brownsteins book,but b3

> > > content is 500mg b2 is 100mg,is the b3 on the scale that you give,my son

> > > will be 7 in a few weeks,just wanted to check what dosage of b3 you give

> > >

> > > many thanks

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Cotter

> 4 Pollerton Manor

> Carlow

> 059 9134964

> 087 2637921

>

[Guest guest]

t 20mg. wow didnt know that it indicated deficency,but we never repeated the flush type as he was so upset and agitated after,scaping at his face etc,have it in the press may try one more time,so hard trying to know what right thing to do,once again thanks

 

 

Having a severe reaction of heavy flushing is a good indicator of Niacin deficiency. Most Niacin pills are too large a dosage to start out with for most. Taking Niacin on a full stomach also helps avoid flushing.

How much is in the B Combo? Cheryl> > >

> > > Hi Cheryl,> > >> > > just recieved ATP cofactors as recommended in dr.Brownsteins book,but b3> > > content is 500mg b2 is 100mg,is the b3 on the scale that you give,my son

> > > will be 7 in a few weeks,just wanted to check what dosage of b3 you give> > >> > > many thanks> > >> > > > >> > > >>

> >

> -- > Cotter> 4 Pollerton Manor> Carlow> 059 9134964> 087 2637921>

-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921

[Guest guest]

,I advised my children beforehand of the flushing and the symptoms. Perhaps your son is non-verbal, I don't know... but I think we underestimate their receptive skills at times... the other thing you could try is taking one yourself or a social story with pictures.

I warned my son and then told him to let me know if he got hot, red, itchy... when he let me know, I took him to the mirror and we laughed about how patchy he was (made a joke out of it, not laughing at him, you know, we turned it into something fun) and so when it happens, he knows it's just for a few minutes and I offer him a drink or other diversion to help (sometimes I just makes stuff up... this morning when he complained, I just asked if he wanted some cool lemonade to help take the heat away?)

 

t 20mg. wow didnt know that it indicated deficency,but we never repeated the flush type as he was so upset and agitated after,scaping at his face etc,have it in the press may try one more time,so hard trying to know what right thing to do,once again thanks

 

 

Having a severe reaction of heavy flushing is a good indicator of Niacin deficiency. Most Niacin pills are too large a dosage to start out with for most. Taking Niacin on a full stomach also helps avoid flushing.

How much is in the B Combo? Cheryl> > >

> > > Hi Cheryl,> > >> > > just recieved ATP cofactors as recommended in dr.Brownsteins book,but b3> > > content is 500mg b2 is 100mg,is the b3 on the scale that you give,my son

> > > will be 7 in a few weeks,just wanted to check what dosage of b3 you give> > >> > > many thanks> > >> > > > >> > > >

>

> >

> -- > Cotter> 4 Pollerton Manor> Carlow> 059 9134964> 087 2637921>

-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

I have only flushed once, it is something i purposely avoided. Been made to fear

it. And have avoided since. Not somthing i think i want to experience again. I

felt extremely hot, unbearable, like my skin might be coming off. If i went

outside in the cold it got lots better, almost pleasant. And the redness was a

little funny to see. Funniest/oddest was how warm the butt felt! But its still

something i will try to avoid. Very weird, some very unpleasant, sensations.

If a child is flusing every day i could see them not wanting to take the stuff.

I would also wonder if the dosage was too high or they werent utilizing what

they have.

Starting the dosage small 12mg on a full stomach shouldnt produce flushing. If

it does, start lower. I started at 25mg and have increased slowly (over 2 years)

and i space it out 2 to 3 times per day with meals. The time i flushed i thought

i had forgotten the niacin with my supps an hour before, so took one and boom!

I ate an oatmeal cookie and drank a large glass of water when i knew flushing

was happening, that might have helped shoretn it. I could see lemonade helping

cause it might empty the stomach. Or dilute the niacin.

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My son's dose is 25 mg. I have not gone higher because I didn't want his flushing to be unbearable.I flushed this morning but it wasn't as bad as it had been... it felt nice because it was a little chilly this morning LOL

I remember the first time niacin had me flush, it was miserable... but the feeling is made better when you know what to expect, that it has an end, and the things you can do to manage it.GABA also sometimes causes an unpleasant flush when I take it. But I do still take it! LOL

Cheryl... last night was the first night in a long time that I went to sleep and was sleepy. Not fatigued, not exhausted, JUST sleepy!!!! Today I am doing 10 drops of Lugols!!!

 

I have only flushed once, it is something i purposely avoided. Been made to fear it. And have avoided since. Not somthing i think i want to experience again. I felt extremely hot, unbearable, like my skin might be coming off. If i went outside in the cold it got lots better, almost pleasant. And the redness was a little funny to see. Funniest/oddest was how warm the butt felt! But its still something i will try to avoid. Very weird, some very unpleasant, sensations.

If a child is flusing every day i could see them not wanting to take the stuff. I would also wonder if the dosage was too high or they werent utilizing what they have.

Starting the dosage small 12mg on a full stomach shouldnt produce flushing. If it does, start lower. I started at 25mg and have increased slowly (over 2 years) and i space it out 2 to 3 times per day with meals. The time i flushed i thought i had forgotten the niacin with my supps an hour before, so took one and boom!

I ate an oatmeal cookie and drank a large glass of water when i knew flushing was happening, that might have helped shoretn it. I could see lemonade helping cause it might empty the stomach. Or dilute the niacin.

Cheryl

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I dunno if it was made better cause i knew what to expect. I really know now

what to expect and i still dont wanna do it again Preparing them is a good

idea tho!

Sleep has been one of the best things for me. I use to sleep maybe 4 hours a

night (adrenal fatique,thryoid issues do that). I now sleep 6 to 7 very easily.

And never tired.

I would split that 10 drops , 5 drops (2% Lugols) in the am in 5 in the

afternoon. It can be ruff on the stomach at higher dosages. And use some

transdermal. Paint areas you know need it (issues with breast, joints, stomach,

liver).

I would probably lower his dose if it's effecting his desire to take the biomed.

Go at half for a bit, then increase for a bit. Then increase again. This is over

several weeks to months.

But if you or he or others can take the flushing there is one doc that thinks

you need to take as much as it takes to bring on the flush, then stay at that

for a while then increase again till you flush. Too much flushing for me!

A fan might be a fun thing to use if flushing to cool off. Or avoiding it

Yeah i am a wimp!

Cheryl

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Hi Cheryl,We're at day 17 for Lugol's. 1 drop for Gatlin (17, 120lbs) and 2 drops per day for my NT 23 yr old daughter and myself. All is well, no backslide or die off noticeable unless this transient afternoon blurry right eye thing is related. He's started drinking OJ in the morning with bfast so I'm changing dosing time of Lugol's to dinnertime starting today and will be watching it in correlation with the blurriness. I sense its probably time to increase the dose especially for my daughter and I and quite possibly Gat, too.I just started him on a new multi today which has 50mg of Niacin in the recommended 2 tabs. I'm giving one tab with bfast, one with lunch. Does this appear to be a decent amount of Niacin? As I've mentioned before, one perceived flush by

this kid will lead to complete noncompliance...heat sensitivity is horrible in PANDAS.We also just got our results back from the ONE test at Genova and he's got no yeast or clostridia issues (amen!) so I'm less concerned now about bacterial die off from Lugol's and may use that encouraging lab result as reason to bump him to two drops. The only change coming from that lab result is his DAN! starting him on Folapro which should be here by Friday. If you know of any conflicts or concerns with Folapro and Lugol's please chime in!Thanks so much!GayleFrom: Toni Marie Lombardo

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 11:52:21 AMSubject: Re: Re: Mossy Cheryl re: iodine

My son's dose is 25 mg. I have not gone higher because I didn't want his flushing to be unbearable.I flushed this morning but it wasn't as bad as it had been... it felt nice because it was a little chilly this morning LOL

I remember the first time niacin had me flush, it was miserable... but the feeling is made better when you know what to expect, that it has an end, and the things you can do to manage it.GABA also sometimes causes an unpleasant flush when I take it. But I do still take it! LOL

Cheryl... last night was the first night in a long time that I went to sleep and was sleepy. Not fatigued, not exhausted, JUST sleepy!!!! Today I am doing 10 drops of Lugols!!!

I have only flushed once, it is something i purposely avoided. Been made to fear it. And have avoided since. Not somthing i think i want to experience again. I felt extremely hot, unbearable, like my skin might be coming off. If i went outside in the cold it got lots better, almost pleasant. And the redness was a little funny to see. Funniest/oddest was how warm the butt felt! But its still something i will try to avoid. Very weird, some very unpleasant, sensations.

If a child is flusing every day i could see them not wanting to take the stuff. I would also wonder if the dosage was too high or they werent utilizing what they have.

Starting the dosage small 12mg on a full stomach shouldnt produce flushing. If it does, start lower. I started at 25mg and have increased slowly (over 2 years) and i space it out 2 to 3 times per day with meals. The time i flushed i thought i had forgotten the niacin with my supps an hour before, so took one and boom!

I ate an oatmeal cookie and drank a large glass of water when i knew flushing was happening, that might have helped shoretn it. I could see lemonade helping cause it might empty the stomach. Or dilute the niacin.

Cheryl

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I am afraid he is non verbal,his receptive language has improved over the past few months,but i am not sure about trying the flush type again,he was just so upset and afraid,he is a great kid who takes lots of foul stuff no bother like w-w and rizol oils but this was the one thing he was in a panic about know it only lasts a few mins but it was the fear in his eyes taht put me off ever giving it again

 

,I advised my children beforehand of the flushing and the symptoms. Perhaps your son is non-verbal, I don't know... but I think we underestimate their receptive skills at times... the other thing you could try is taking one yourself or a social story with pictures.

I warned my son and then told him to let me know if he got hot, red, itchy... when he let me know, I took him to the mirror and we laughed about how patchy he was (made a joke out of it, not laughing at him, you know, we turned it into something fun) and so when it happens, he knows it's just for a few minutes and I offer him a drink or other diversion to help (sometimes I just makes stuff up... this morning when he complained, I just asked if he wanted some cool lemonade to help take the heat away?)

 

t 20mg. wow didnt know that it indicated deficency,but we never repeated the flush type as he was so upset and agitated after,scaping at his face etc,have it in the press may try one more time,so hard trying to know what right thing to do,once again thanks

 

 

Having a severe reaction of heavy flushing is a good indicator of Niacin deficiency. Most Niacin pills are too large a dosage to start out with for most. Taking Niacin on a full stomach also helps avoid flushing.

How much is in the B Combo?

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Oh yes, I see. Well, wouldn't want to make it traumatic! :-) Mine just whines and grumbles. That's his modus operendi about everything so, ya know, I'm used to it. Hehe.I think there's some niacin in the b vitamin drops I bought, but only 1 mg or so. So not really sure it is doing much!

 

I am afraid he is non verbal,his receptive language has improved over the past few months,but i am not sure about trying the flush type again,he was just so upset and afraid,he is a great kid who takes lots of foul stuff no bother like w-w and rizol oils but this was the one thing he was in a panic about know it only lasts a few mins but it was the fear in his eyes taht put me off ever giving it again

 

,I advised my children beforehand of the flushing and the symptoms. Perhaps your son is non-verbal, I don't know... but I think we underestimate their receptive skills at times... the other thing you could try is taking one yourself or a social story with pictures.

I warned my son and then told him to let me know if he got hot, red, itchy... when he let me know, I took him to the mirror and we laughed about how patchy he was (made a joke out of it, not laughing at him, you know, we turned it into something fun) and so when it happens, he knows it's just for a few minutes and I offer him a drink or other diversion to help (sometimes I just makes stuff up... this morning when he complained, I just asked if he wanted some cool lemonade to help take the heat away?)

 

t 20mg. wow didnt know that it indicated deficency,but we never repeated the flush type as he was so upset and agitated after,scaping at his face etc,have it in the press may try one more time,so hard trying to know what right thing to do,once again thanks

 

 

Having a severe reaction of heavy flushing is a good indicator of Niacin deficiency. Most Niacin pills are too large a dosage to start out with for most. Taking Niacin on a full stomach also helps avoid flushing.

How much is in the B Combo?

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I accidentally had a niacin flush once myself. I was really unpleasant; kind of felt like stinging nettle so I don't know I'd want my child going through that. A few weeks ago, I was looking up the benefits of niacin and saw there was a "no flush" version (I think it was called niacinimide or some longer version of niacin??) - is it not as effective or is it the actual flushing of the niacin that makes it work?

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You dont have to have the flush for it to work. Most avoid the flush. Starting

slow, increasing slow. Over a period of months. Always with food. I took it for

a long time before i ever flushed. hasnt flushed. Very slow with him too.

The no flush works differently. Some say the no flush is betterm or enough, or

better than none.

To me the products are 2 distinct supplements that do different things. There

are some docs that say it matters, others that dont. Including the iodine docs.

They have a new Rx called Niaspan that makes me think it matters (tho i would

never take the Rx).

I plan to stick with the niacin. If it were making flush I doubt i would.

He too is non verbal, and it would freak him out no doubt! and he would probably

connect what i was giving him to the reaction (he has funny way of figuring

things out). He sniffs his biomed before taking it. There have only been a few

things he flat out wouldnt take.

Cheryl

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of felt like stinging nettle so I don't know I'd want my child going through

that. A few weeks ago, I was looking up the benefits of niacin and saw there was

a " no flush " version (I think it was called niacinimide or some longer version

of niacin??) - is it not as effective or is it the actual flushing of the niacin

that makes it work?

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